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 geeleebee

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Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/7/2009 8:42:46 AM
Pardon me but the title is Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012

So far, this is the truth.


If one notes the title its appears to be talking about Palin running for Pres which to me indicates they are talking about 2012. Correct me if I am wrong but aren't the Democrats still talking about Obama running in 2012. I think that means that Obama would be Palin's opponent if she chooses or does run. As it stands now I think she will be a major player in the 2012 elections but I don't think she will probably be running against Obama.

That^^^is some freaky kinda stretch, there.
Olympics qualifying, really.


If people are going to sit here and criticize one political person for what they have to say about Health Care Reform then I think people will just normally compare how others have talked about and handled their stance on health care.

Nope.
This is a thread about Sarah Palin--not health care, and not Obama.


Since Obama's talks and stance on health care reform stand out the most then it is just naturally that Obama comes to mind first as a comparison to Palin. After all it is considered Obama and the Democrats plan to a large degree, especially considering they have very little Republican support.

Refer to the above response.


Although it not really excusable it looks like the both Obama and Palin have used some forms of scare tactics in regards to the Health Care Reform. That is the reasoning for comparisons between Obama and Palin. Palin titling the section on "End of Life Counseling" was scare tactics. Obama's comments regarding tonsil surgery and amputation was campaign scare strategies to gain a political agenda. Both Obama and Palin created undue medical stress.

'He started it!'
'No, SHE started it!'

You know what's 'not really excusable?
Lying about 'Death Panels' to get your way.
It is also inexcusable to spread those lies.

And, just a reminder--this is a thread about SARAH PALIN. Nothing more, nothing less. Sarah Palin, the 'wink, you betcha, I'm gonna lie to the American public and look great in a skirt while I do it, quitter'. Sarah Palin.

I hope she runs her ass off in 2012.


Palin' s references to the death panel was first brought up in msg 202 as a lie. I knew immediately which part of the Health Care Reform they were talking about and that actually it was not a lie per say.


'Per say' (sic)
Right.
Yes, it was a lie in FACT. Nothing 'per se' about it.
There is/was NO provision for 'Death Panels', and people need to, at the very least, stop pretending that there is/was. That alone would go a very long way in establishing some foundation of credence for debate.
 etourdi77

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Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/7/2009 8:58:42 AM
Actually the door was opened when one of the posters accused Palin of lying about Death panels, the question asked by the OP also included "does she really have supporters?"...........Right, it is your opinion that end of life counselors would not "encourage" elderly or terminally ill to forgo treatment and have palliative care and hospice care instead.
 aaamm

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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:06:59 AM
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13065283.aspx
About those “Death Panels”...

Above is the thread about Death Panels.

As far as politics go, they were slinging the mud back in Washington's day. It will never stop. Oh heck, we aren't in politics on POF, but yet we get mud slung at us too.

Rereading this thread, really don't see comments stating that many if anyone would support her running for President the way things stand right now.

Again, still waiting to see what she will do next...
 killene

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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:29:04 AM
Post 308 says
You know what's 'not really excusable? Lying about 'Death Panels' to get your way. It is also inexcusable to spread those lies.

It was not lying in regards to the section she was referring to.
It was as I have said before in several ways Palin used an explosive type name for a section as everyone can see had to do with death. Is not death considered "end of life' and the Health Care Reform section Palin was referencing was about "End Of Life Counseling"
If one does bother to read the section one can see why Palin and others had their concerns about this section.
This section was probably one of the many Health Reform sections that Democrat House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers was referring to when he said "What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”
I don't know about you but I bet Palin, many others and me do not want to have to hire a lawyer when I am facing end of life type situations to interpret what my health care options are or are not. As post 309 Illustrates
Right, it is your opinion that end of life counselors would not "encourage" elderly or terminally ill to forgo treatment and have palliative care and hospice care instead.

For making the Senate take another look at and removing such a poorly written section I and probably many others are thanking Palin.
Since at this time this is one of the hot political issues, I can see why Palin would be putting her two cents in if she indeed is thinking of running as some think. Personally I do not think she will run for President or VP in 2012, but will probably play a major role of some sort with the GOP. Thus Palin will need to be abreast and involved with the issues that will most certainly be quite active in 2010 and 2012.
 geeleebee

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Posted: 9/7/2009 10:05:05 AM
Palin lied.
There were never any Death Panels.
I've read that section--there are options for end-of-life counseling, but no mention of the government setting up a Death Panel to determine when/how a person should die.
I cannot see why Palin used the term 'Death Panel' to make her point--it was an outright lie--one that was easily disproven.

It can be spun six ways to Sunday, and it is still a lie.

I was with both of my parents when they died--neither of them had to hire a lawyer to interpret their wishes regarding their health care. I don't know anyone who has had to do that.


Right, it is your opinion that end of life counselors would not "encourage" elderly or terminally ill to forgo treatment and have palliative care and hospice care instead.

I absolutely loathe this kind of utter crap.
My opinion is MINE--it is not up to another poster to determine what MY opinion is.

In the case of my favorite aunt who died a year ago: When faced with the inevitable outcome of her terminal illness, she made the decision to forego further treatment and have hospice workers keep her as comfortable as possible until she died.
SHE made that decision. No Death Panel Police showed up at her home to make that determination. No one encouraged her to end her life. No one asked her to stop treatment.

I hope Palin runs in 2012.
Given her track record, she'll campaign for a while, then quit.
 Dasein2

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Posted: 9/7/2009 11:04:15 AM
She probably will run in 2012 but I just feel bad for anyone who donates to her campaign 'cause you know she's just gonna spend all the money on her wardrobe.
 aaamm

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Posted: 10/2/2009 12:49:07 PM
Sounds like she has a book that many are buying off Amazon. Guess she did find a way to make money.
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 10/2/2009 1:01:33 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^



Those are ordered by Right wing sites... They give the books or sell them for Cheap...

Becks hot seller is $4.99 on World Net....

She won't make the millions because the sales numbers are inflated....

She will do better than Beck...Focus on the Familly will sell her book.... Beck's books are not sold there...He is a member of the Mormon Church...

Dobson believes it is a Cult
 wudger

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Posted: 10/2/2009 3:50:48 PM
well the First Dude didn't wait long to quit his gig after the book money. I'll bet he's frothing at the mouth to get back to the Slopes.


Todd Palin resigns from oil job

By RACHEL D'ORO (AP) – 1 hour ago

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — The husband of former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has quit his oil field job on the North Slope.

Todd Palin's resignation as a production operator for oil giant BP PLC comes almost two months after his wife stepped down as Alaska governor and shortly before the release of her highly anticipated memoir in a deal rumored to be worth millions.

"Todd loved his union job on the Slope and hopes to return," Meghan Stapleton, Sarah Palin's personal spokeswoman, said in an e-mail Friday. "For now, he is spending time with his family."

The resignation was effective Sept. 18, according to BP spokesman Steve Rinehart.
 where4

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Posted: 11/3/2009 12:54:31 AM


http://www.adn.com/news/politics/alaska_ear/story/995319.html
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More from the ADN page above:
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An earwig with way more time for research than the Divine Appendage forwarded these quotes from the Palin hagiography (look it up):

From Sarah's 2008 interview in Vogue magazine, about the swimsuit part of a beauty pageant: "They made us line up in bathing suits and turn our backs so the male judges could look at our butts ... I just couldn't believe it."

From "Sarah" by Kaylene Johnson, quoting brother Chuck about the Miss Wasilla contest: "I remember asking Sarah why she would enter a beauty pageant when that seemed so prissy to the rest of us ... She told me matter of factly, 'It's going to help pay my way through college.' "


Sarah's the gift that just keeps on giving! Oh, but we should take her political endorsements so seriously!
 PokerPlayerLV

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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:27:59 AM
How is this thread 13 pages? She would never got the nod from the GOP....she would be destroyed in the primaries....look for a Mitt Romney or Bobby Jindal to run in 2012.
 SaharaM

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Posted: 11/3/2009 4:43:13 AM
It is 13 pages long because it's a discussion, just like the rest of the threads.

If you're not interested in the discussion, don't join in. But don't be dismissive of those who are interested.
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 11/3/2009 6:15:18 AM
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How is this thread 13 pages? She would never got the nod from the GOP....she would be destroyed in the primaries....look for a Mitt Romney or Bobby Jindal to run in 2012.



She won't need the GOP.... She ripped NY 23 from the grip of Liberal Newt .....

Mitt Romney???? Palin will never back him he is a Mormon...........

She has become the King/Queen maker..... One Face book or Twitter.......



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 wudger

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Posted: 11/14/2009 9:41:41 AM
the new books a piece of work. the continuing reinvention of history.




http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/11/13/us/politics/AP-US-Palin-Book-Fact-Check.html
 aaamm

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Posted: 11/14/2009 9:51:00 AM
If anyone bought and reads the book, I wonder if they will make it all the way through it. I know she had a real author write it, but I just can't imagine making it through a book filled with her version of history. EX. she said on the Oprah show that she was forced to do the Katy Couric interview and knew it didn't go well, but to me I didn't see her thinking that when the interview took place. It also makes me wonder how or why she thinks she could do a talk show. Her accent and style of talking...ugh
 Trueblooo

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Posted: 11/14/2009 9:56:18 AM
This woman does not have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the presidency.
 wudger

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Posted: 11/14/2009 10:01:17 AM
thats exactly what people said about Reagan and Bush and look what happened.


never underestimate the idiocy of modern America.



"if anyone reads or buys her book."

don't look now but its the number one best seller on amazon.

get ready for President Sarah. nothing like a gun happy, illiterate with a fourth grade grasp of geography having their finger on the button to brighten up the decade.
 JSlade58

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Posted: 11/14/2009 10:15:46 AM

never underestimate the idiocy of modern America.


My sentiments exactly.
 killene

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Posted: 11/14/2009 10:20:53 AM
How is this thread 13 pages?

It is probably 13 pages long because many are getting their kicks out of bashing Sarah Palin. Just look at the slurs and names they have been using.
 Strings6

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Posted: 11/14/2009 11:02:57 AM
it's the best their arrogant,pompous ,self inflated personalities can produce...anyone they agree with is an enlightened genius....all others are "idiots"....Sarah Palin is supportede by those who agree with her....the"tolerance" crowd can't seem to deal with it.
 wudger

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Posted: 11/14/2009 11:14:47 AM

It is probably 13 pages long because many are getting their kicks out of bashing Sarah Palin. Just look at the slurs and names they have been using.



I notice that you don't apply that to the obama thread.
 geeleebee

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Posted: 11/14/2009 11:34:20 AM
it's the best their arrogant,pompous ,self inflated personalities can produce...anyone they agree with is an enlightened genius....all others are "idiots"....Sarah Palin is supportede by those who agree with her....the"tolerance" crowd can't seem to deal with it.


My goodness--somebody certainly woke up with 'Mr. Grumpy Pants' this morning.

Sarah Palin became a joke and now, as only an American can, she is making profit off of the gullible public--betcha there's folks on this thread who'll be getting her book for Christmas, and they're just so excited!

Why should anyone 'tolerate' Palin?
Why would anyone want to be merely 'tolerated'?

(by the way, 'self-inflated' should be hyphenated--there I go, being an enlightened genius and stuff...)
 killene

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Posted: 11/14/2009 11:37:11 AM

I notice that you don't apply that to the obama thread.


One might want to take a walk through the pages of this thread and look at all the labels and names people have attatched to Palin.

There is a big difference between attatching names to someone and disagreeing with them.
 aaamm

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Posted: 11/14/2009 11:55:15 AM
People may be buying the book, but I really wonder if anyone will read the whole book. Really, not just buy but actually read her version of what took place...ok her version with a writer's influence.
 aSydneyMale

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Posted: 11/14/2009 11:57:38 AM


I notice that you don't apply that to the obama thread.


One might want to take a walk through the pages of this thread and look at all the labels and names people have attatched to Palin.


From a poster on an Obama thread:

Now...this knucklehead in office, aka "the Kenyan Experiment" wants to afford these enemy combats of terror the same trial rights as American citizens. Great call Barrack Hussein Obama. McChrystal knows far more about winning a war than the anti-military slime currently occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.



There is a big difference between attatching names to someone and disagreeing with them.

Indeed.
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