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 killene

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Posted: 9/4/2009 8:27:12 AM
Death panels.
What's interesting to me is that her kids are only hands off when people point out the negative, but she has NO problem whatsoever using her "baby with Down Syndrome" to push her assertion that Obama is into eugenics and forced euthanasia.
Around here, we call that being a fuggin' hypocrite. In Alaska, that would be "scoodly-doodly hypocrite *WINK*".



Some people might want to rethink on your laughing on Death Panels....Sarah's Side Won.....

There WAS an end of life provision in the bill that was so indistinctly and vaguely written that the Democrats ended up taking it out. Even prior to Palin's roar people were calling it the Death panel and were opposed to it.

Laugh all you want! It just does seem strange that even the Democrats though Differently. Differently enough to remove a section of Obama's Health Care Reform because people were referring to it as the Death Panel.

Might ask yourself WHY???

WHY??? did same Democrats feel the need to take out the End Of Life Counsel where they have steadfastly held onto other provisions such as Single Payer.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Sarah...


The end-of-life counseling provisions in the House version of the proposed health-care reform bill reportedly have been dropped by a Senate committee. What’s the significance of that?
“Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, who is the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, issued a news release Thursday saying the committee’s version of health-care reform would not include this controversial component. http://www.drwalt.com/blog/2009/08/15/what-is-wrong-with-end-of-life-counseling-in-healthcare-reform/


Seems some in here think it's fair for Levi/people to take pot shots at Palin's family. In fact some seem to be encouraging it.
Does that mean that "Children of Politicians" off limits is NO LONGER in effect.

In relooking at Msg 203 What's interesting to me is that Obama's kids are only hands off when people point out the negative, but Barrack and Michelle have NO problem whatsoever using the girls to emphasize campaign and WH house issues.
Around here, we call that being a fuggin' hypocrite.
Goes both ways guys.
 Ready4SomethingFun

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Posted: 9/4/2009 8:28:15 AM

What's interesting to me is that her kids are only hands off when people point out the negative, but she has NO problem whatsoever using her "baby with Down Syndrome" to push her assertion that Obama is into eugenics and forced euthanasia.

Around here, we call that being a fuggin' hypocrite. In Alaska, that would be "scoodly-doodly hypocrite *WINK*".


Thanks for pointing that out. Obama seems to do the same--his kids are hands off when mentioned on a billboard without a picture, but he doesn't fail to use them when it suits his agenda. Like the photo op trying to mimic the one of Kennedy.

Face it Obama is the biggest "fuggin' hypocrite" I've ever seen. Hypocrites everywhere will have to change their standards to compete.
 HalftimeDad

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Posted: 9/4/2009 8:37:36 AM

Some people might want to rethink on your laughing on Death Panels....Sarah's Side Won.....


That's actually what's scary. This provision was added at the request of two Republican Senators who wrote it. It wasn't indistinctly or vaguely worded. It just allowed for Medicare to pay doctors who had this talk with their elderly patients.

The committee dropped it because the Republicans stopped supporting it. It was a Republican provision. In fairness, Republican legislators were in the position of having to either back their own measure and attack someone they would want to raise money for them, or walk away from it.

When one of your highest profile figures is cookoo for CoaCoa Puffs, you pretty much just have to go into damage control mode.
 WindRoper

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Posted: 9/4/2009 8:37:42 AM

Might ask yourself WHY???


I don't have to ask why. I KNOW why. Cuz the Republican machine financed and fueled by the bullsh** lies of the folks who have on their leash, i.e., the insurance, medical/pharmaceutical, ambulance-chaser lobbies has generated such groundless paranoia in the ignorant masses and no one bothers to inform themselves. They just believe whatever comic or crazy bullsh** is masquarading as legitimate journalism.
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 9/4/2009 8:57:00 AM
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WHY??? did same Democrats feel the need to take out the End Of Life Counsel where they have steadfastly held onto other provisions such as Single Payer.


Single payer? You mean Public option.....
OR
Is single payer the code word for socialist? You keep posting it???

Because there is NO SINGLE PAYER in the Grassley crap bill...


Death panel removed by the GUY who backed and wrote the section....

Grassley.... is the true Granny killer......... This was a plot by the Neo Cons...............

Thank the Dem's for saving your elderly......

NOW Palin needs to have the Death Panels section removed from exsisting Medicare Law....
 geeleebee

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Posted: 9/4/2009 8:57:55 AM

Some people might want to rethink on your laughing on Death Panels....Sarah's Side Won.....

There WAS an end of life provision in the bill that was so indistinctly and vaguely written that the Democrats ended up taking it out. Even prior to Palin's roar people were calling it the Death panel and were opposed to it.


They 'won'. Fascinating.

What they 'won' was the removal of a provision for doctors/counselors to have a discussion with patients about the quality of their lives--it wasn't a conversation about how to kill yourself. So the liars win again.

Calling that provision a 'death panel' is one of the worst lies told.

The liars are going to 'win' themselves, and every American without health insurance, a ticket to stay that way.
 killene

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Posted: 9/4/2009 9:00:08 AM

That's actually what's scary. This provision was added at the request of two Republican Senators who wrote it. It wasn't indistinctly or vaguely worded.


Great point!
That's what makes it so neat. Palin looks beyond the Party Connection.

Looks like Palin will NOT support any vaguely written section of any bill regardless of who wrote it.
Appears that Palin doesnt really care who authored a proposal, but the effect it might have on people.
Looks like Palin is looking out for the people not just her party.

Very Good Catch msg 207 Thanks for bringing up how Palin is more than just about Party.
 geeleebee

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Posted: 9/4/2009 9:08:16 AM
Seriously, who gives any size shit what Palin supports?
She isn't a governor.
She isn't a Representative.
She isn't a Senator.
She isn't a Mayor.

She's a hockey mom with delusions of grandeur.
Looks like Palin is looking out for any kind of publicity she can garner.
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 9/4/2009 9:13:37 AM
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Great point!
That's what makes it so neat. Palin looks beyond the Party Connection.



How about disrupt any real reform with crap....

It could be called the vast Right Wing conspiracy.......... set up...


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 HalftimeDad

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Posted: 9/4/2009 9:14:28 AM

Great point!
That's what makes it so neat. Palin looks beyond the Party Connection.


It's clear that she never even read the provision she attacked. So it's pretty much impossible that she actually knew who inserted it.

She was just looking for a way to attack Health Care Reform so went into hyperbole.

Two Republicans came forward. The Democrats really are looking for bipartisanship, so they included it. Then the GOP legislators were forced by Palin to back down.

The you (and others) use that to accuse the Democrats of weakness or something. Actually, come to think of it, I'm not really sure what you're accusing them of.
 killene

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Posted: 9/4/2009 9:35:11 AM
It's clear that she never even read the provision she attacked. So it's pretty much impossible that she actually knew who inserted it.


Good Catch since it seems many elected officials say they didn't or haven't read it all.
Hey I know some elected officials, even Obama have admitted to not having read it all.

Was Palin one of them that did not read the bill. Wondering if there a statement by Palin stating that she did not read the health care reform papers or at least the section she has been talking about. Did Palin say she did not know who authored it or say something about it being more than just voted in by the Democrats.

Just curious and asking since there is proof of Palin looking out for people's interests versus just party in the political clean up she did in her short time as Alaska's governor.
Before bringing up all frivolous lawsuits on Palin, costing the Alaskans her time and Palin's family lots of money, so far they have been all dismissed Appears the frivolous lawsuits where just a out of control thoughtless way to punch back at Palin.



Palin outed Ruedrich's corruption by using his office for Republican party business and leaking a confidential memo to an energy company lobbyist, among other things, and Ruedrich was forced to fork over $12,000 when he pled guilty to the ethics violation.
"We can't kid ourselves there has not yet been restoration of the public's confidence in the Republican Party and we have got to do better," Palin said to a rousing applause.

 Bookbelle

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Posted: 9/4/2009 9:44:25 AM

She's a hockey mom with delusions of grandeur.


According to the father of her grandchild, she's not even a hockey mum. And apparently she can't even name the firearm she keeps under her bed.
 etourdi77

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Posted: 9/4/2009 10:14:35 AM
Its funny to see all of these Obama supporters believing rumors and 2nd hand statements made by people about Palin and ignoring everything that Obamas friends and appointees say and do.Is it because she is white? Is that why there is such a double standard?Aren't you guys the ones always saying we shouldn't judge Obama by who is surrounds himself with or that we shouldn't judge him based on what the people around him say or how they act?
 WindRoper

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Posted: 9/4/2009 10:40:03 AM
^^^ That's just ignorant. Why would I -- a white woman and mother -- be prejudiced against Sarah Palin because of the color of her skin, her gender, or her marital/parental status. I'm not even jealous of her supposed career or financial success cuz she's just an ignorant redneck being paraded like a poster child. She offends my intelligence... the same way Geraldine Ferraro (a Democrat in case you don't recall) did during her VP bid when in an apparent effort to gain acceptance as a Yankee campaigning in the South and Midwest she bragged about how well she could fry chicken. BFD! And the VP needs to be a good cook because...?!

No one is saying that nothing Obama or his administration (or campaign staff, quaintances, etc.) does concerns them. We are open minded and believe anything is possible. We keep our eyes and ears open. But we haven't been provided with any clear cut evidence of wrong-doing of which Obama was absolutely, positively aware and/or involved. But maybe we missed something during all the dog-wagging of the folks acting a fool at the town hall meetings. But, hey, you heard the lady. Palin "won." If that's winning, then the town-hallers must be screaming "F*** ME! HARDER! FASTER!"
 Ismene2

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Posted: 9/4/2009 11:21:22 AM

I wouldn't vote for this nut job if she was the only one running.
What she said!!!
 killene

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Posted: 9/4/2009 11:28:13 AM
That's just ignorant. Why would I -- a white woman and mother -- be prejudiced against Sarah Palin because of the color of her skin, her gender, or her marital/parental status.I'm not even jealous of her supposed career or financial success cuz she's just an ignorant redneck being paraded like a poster child.


Interesting statement. Instead of putting some evidence out there showing Palin's ignorance or ??? . The application of an commonly used offensively biased slang word is used as backup for not being prejudiced towards Palin. Just my opinion but I do find it a mighty weird way to back up non prejudicial feelings about Palin by calling her a redneck.


redneck - an offensive term for a white farm hand in the southern United States, especially one regarded as uneducated or aggressively prejudiced
- an offensive term for somebody who is opposed to liberal social changes, especially somebody regarded as prejudiced http://encarta.msn.com/red+neck.html



Redneck Offensive Slang Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/redneck

 WindRoper

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Posted: 9/4/2009 12:00:33 PM
Honey chile, I ARE a redneck and d*** proud of it. Like "Okie" (also considered a derogatory term in California) we see such as hard-working, honest stock. I don't know any rednecks who apply politics to the term. Some are regarded as prejudiced but, in general, even that is considered a generalization. You might consider getting your information and definitions from a more informed source than yahoo... which apparently fancy itself as redneck in nature since it's name IS redneck term for a local.
 geeleebee

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Posted: 9/4/2009 12:03:51 PM

Its funny to see all of these Obama supporters believing rumors and 2nd hand statements made by people about Palin and ignoring everything that Obamas friends and appointees say and do.

Who is believing what Palin says?
Who is believing the rumors?
What we're trying to do is stop the lies.
It's funny to see all those Palin supporters believing her instead of the truth.


Is it because she is white?

Uh...yeah. It's because she's White.
Is that why the Palin supporters believe her? Cuz she's White?


Is that why there is such a double standard?

Those of you who believe Palin instead of the truth will have to let us know why you have the double standard.


Aren't you guys the ones always saying we shouldn't judge Obama by who is surrounds himself with or that we shouldn't judge him based on what the people around him say or how they act?

Which has what to do with Palin?
I am judging Palin by her words, not by who she's hanging out with.

And Palin's words are lies.
 Earthpuppy

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Posted: 9/4/2009 12:50:19 PM
"Redneck Offensive Slang Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/redneck"

The original entomology of the term "red neck" referred to integrated miners attempting to unionize in the coal fields. Most of the rednecks I know and work with daily are quite proud of that heritage and tradition. Unfortunately people of lower class, folks who look down on others, try to use it disparagingly today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

Palin is more of an idiot, a quiter, a secessionist, hokey mom mutt with lipstick, and a delusional religious nut with a deep desire to bring on the end times in a front row seat...She sees armageddon from her porch.
 killene

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Posted: 9/4/2009 1:02:27 PM
I ARE a redneck and d*** proud of it. Like "Okie" (also considered a derogatory term in California) we see such as hard-working, honest stock. I don't know any rednecks who apply politics to the term. Some are regarded as prejudiced but, in general, even that is considered a generalization. You might consider getting your information and definitions from a more informed source than yahoo... which apparently fancy itself as redneck in nature since it's name IS redneck term for a local


The term "redneck" can be and is construed differently depending on where and how one uses the tere. However according to many dictionaries (Heritage, Dictionary. com, Merriam-Webster Online and the list goes on) the word "Redneck" is an derogatory and disparaging term.

Use of the "redneck" term for oneself is not much different than the use of the "N" word by some blacks in their conversations with their black friends. Does this mean that the "N word" is not racist or prejudiced if anyone directs it at someone else as part of a description?. Don't think I need to go any further on the "N word", for I do not and would never used it.
I also know personally that I did not appreciate the "N" word when it was thrown at me back in 60s when I was a Civil Rights Volunteer. Plus I also know many who are offended when people call them redneck, but will joke around with the term when with friends.

To use a derogatory and disparaging term in a statement to indicate a non-prejudicial statement is just really odd. To use such terms as "wetback", "spic" "redneck" "N word", "wop" and "honky" attached to anyone does seem to illustrate a prejudicial way of thinking by most people's standards.


http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/redneck http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redneck?jss=1 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redneck
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 9/4/2009 1:05:38 PM
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She is very Pro Union .... Likes those union bennies...Is'nt that what Pro union means?








 WindRoper

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Posted: 9/4/2009 1:13:08 PM
Well, h***, if your gonna type out sh** like "wetback" and "honky" you may as well spell out "." You won't burst into flame. Note I placed the word in quotations cuz I don't use recial slurs either. If I was gonna racially slur myself, I'd say "cracker." I don't know anyone who doesn't find the word "" offensive, but since the same cannot be said of "redneck" I am not so quick to lump all slang words into the derogatory pile just cuz it suits my (or shall I say YOUR) purposes. As another poster pointed out, it is a point of pride for many. I don't see anyone shouting " POWER" at empowerment events so it isn't a point of pride. It's apples and oranges to me. Your mileage may vary and therein lies the difference.
If I was gonna really insult Sarah Palin I'd say she gives c**t a bad name. Satisfied?

Edited to add: I believe the fact that some derogatory words denoting race are automatically filtered supports my theory that most do not see all such slang equally which would seem to blow your theory outta the water.
 HalftimeDad

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Posted: 9/4/2009 1:17:27 PM
Okay, I never type out lol, because I rarely actually do laugh out loud.

But Windroper....LOL.
 killene

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Posted: 9/4/2009 1:50:14 PM
msg 217 says "Its funny to see all of these Obama supporters believing rumors and 2nd hand statements made by people about Palin and ignoring everything that Obamas friends and appointees say and do.Is it because she is white? Is that why there is such a double standard?Aren't you guys the ones always saying we shouldn't judge Obama by who is surrounds himself with or that we shouldn't judge him based on what the people around him say or how they act?

So RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!
Looks Like This Statement Is Right
About people being judgmental and prejudicial
towards Palin.

Considering the terminology and names people are calling Palin in the posts following and prior to this msg. It looks like this statement about judgmental and prejudicial in regards to Palin is Very Correct.

There seems to be still be a lot of prejudicial people out there in this world.

So sad considering that our nation has its First Black President in its history that we have so many prejudicial people.
 WindRoper

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Posted: 9/4/2009 2:00:56 PM
As I stated previously, Sarah Palin is an insult to my intelligence. If I'm prejudiced it is a prejudice against stupid liars. I wasn't aware such things are included in "race, creed, religion, gender, sexual orientation..." Futhermore, it was an insult to the intelligence of ALL women that the GOP thinks we'll vote for anything with a vagina.
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