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 Guitarist003

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New Alice In Chains album: What are your thoughts?
Posted: 11/1/2009 12:44:21 AM
So black gives way to blue is heavier then dirt? Or facelift? Come on all aic records have been great but there were only two distinctive sound in the band laynes vocals and jerry cantrells guitar tone and playing Layne and jerrys harmonizing was out of this world prob the best in my eyes to do so now that laynes gone and the new records out you have pol complaining it ain't the same of course not just be glad we have the music we do have. Right?
 mike584

Joined: 11/18/2008
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New Alice In Chains album: What are your thoughts?
Posted: 11/3/2009 10:09:39 PM
Up until I bought the new Slayer CD tonight the new Alice in Chains never left the CD player in my car. I was sold just from the opening lines "time, time to start living like just before we died". William Duvall is a very good singer and I appreciate that he doesn't want to copy Layne. He gets my respect for that alone.

I was very impressed by the album as a whole. I don't have any complaints at all. The title track, with Elton John's (!!!!!!!!) piano track sends a shiver down my spine, being that it's the one track specifically about Layne. It's pure vintage 'Chains: heavy, dark, and most importantly, meaningful. It's a masterpiece.
 TheBigAndy

Joined: 9/23/2008
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New Alice In Chains album: What are your thoughts?
Posted: 11/7/2009 12:22:54 AM
What will be missed the most is Stanley's effect on Cantrell's song writing. He brought a sense of slow sludgy dissonance to AiC's sound. That bit of turmoil between Cantrell's pop leanings and Layne's preference for the underground is what's really missing now.

Brian Johnson and Sammy Hagar were brought into fill some really big shoes. They succeeded by having enough gravitas to command the stage, and the other members of the band in the studio. I don't think Duvall can do that, and that's why the new AiC sounds more like a Cantrell solo album.
 Designerlife

Joined: 11/1/2009
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Powderfinger "All of the dreamers"
Posted: 11/7/2009 12:50:16 AM
From your tower of ivory
I hear you rattle your jewellery
But in a hard bitter irony
Your a pillar of the community

But when you come down to the barrio
Get a feel of the peoples scenario
Its a grande opportunity
To steal a march on your enemies

Above is the lyrics of "All of the Dreamers" by Powderfinger.

What is a "barrio"?
 TheBigAndy

Joined: 9/23/2008
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Powderfinger All of the dreamers
Posted: 11/7/2009 8:06:25 AM
"What is a "barrio"?"

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 barbyanne2

Joined: 10/19/2009
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New Alice In Chains album: What are your thoughts?
Posted: 11/8/2009 8:35:40 AM
When you hear Alice, there is no mistaking the sound. Even with a new guy. I'm curious to know what everyone's fav cd is - no disrespect intended to the new guy. Mine is probably Dirt. But I'd have to listen to them all back to back to be certain....
 dtc1163

Joined: 8/2/2009
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Powderfinger All of the dreamers
Posted: 11/11/2009 6:01:27 AM
In its formal usage in English, barrios are generally considered cohesive places, sharing, for example, a church and traditions such as feast days. In Cuba, Puerto Rico and Spain, the term barrio is also used to denote a subdivision of a municipio (or municipality); the barrios are further subdivided into sectors. In the Philippines, the term may also simply refer to a rural village and is spelled in Filipino as baryo.

In Argentina, a barrio is a traditional division of a municipality officially delineated by the local authority at a later time, and sometimes keeps a distinct character from others (as in the barrios of Buenos Aires -- though they have been superseded by larger administrative divisions). Here, the word does not have a special socioeconomic connotation, except that it is used in contrast to the centro (city center or downtown). The expression barrio cerrado (translated "closed neighborhood") is employed for small, upper-class, residential settlements, planned with an exclusive criterion and often literally enclosed in walls (a kind of gated community).

More commonly, however, in the United States, barrios refer to lower-class neighborhoods with largely Spanish-speaking residents, basically the Latino equivalent of a "ghetto". The word often implies that the poverty level is high in such a neighborhood, but this inference is not universal. While there are many so-called barrios in the United States, Roma Creek, Texas; Avondale, Arizona; Coachella, California and Huron, California are among the largest and most well-known, and are simply referred to as "El Barrio" by natives of the surrounding areas. The barrios most portrayed in national media and pop culture include Spanish Harlem, East Los Angeles, and Washington Heights in New York City; and others across the country.

In communities with Hispanic (in this case, Mexican-American) majorities or pluralities such as San Antonio and El Paso of Texas; Phoenix and Tucson, Arizona; East L.A. and Santa Ana, California among others in Southern California; "barrio" may refer to neighborhoods with a long history of being ethnic enclaves, as opposed to middle class or suburban residential districts that merely have many Hispanic residents.

In the United States barrios can also refer to the geographical "turf" claimed by a Latino gang; this usage is generally limited to the Chicano gangs of California. The dramatization of gang life in music videos and movies has popularized this usage among the general population. Some gangs spell the word varrio, a common variant as some Spanish speakers (such as Mexicans) pronounce the letter "v" like the English "b". In yet another colloquial usage of the term, ethnic "ghettos" and "-towns" are often referred to by Spanish speakers as barrios appended with the appropriate qualifying adjective. For example, Chinatowns are known as barrios chinos.

The United States usage is also seen in Venezuela and the Dominican Republic, where barrio is commonly given to slums in the outer rims of big cities such as Caracas, as well as lower to middle class neighborhoods in other cities and towns.
 dtc1163

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Powderfinger All of the dreamers
Posted: 11/11/2009 6:10:43 AM
By the way, I love AIC, and it sickens me that all the real genius seem to drop like flies after they make their mark in the world! What comes first, the drugs or the genius? I think the genius is there all along and the drugs become the cool crotch they think they need to associate with and bring out that little extra in themselves, it's a real shame.
Like Curt Cobain, what an awesome first album, damn, I just know he would have brought so much more from his soul had he stuck around!
 HawkingJr

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New Alice In Chains album: What are your thoughts?
Posted: 11/12/2009 5:28:42 AM
As others pointed out, Jerry sang lead or co-lead on most of the original AIC songs. And William DuVal sounds enough like Layne Staley that his harmonies with Jerry are nearly indistinguishable from those with Layne. It's only when William sings by himself that it starts sounding a little off. Plus, many of AIC's best songs were about Layne's plunge into darkness and William doesn't have that going on, so that's a bit of a problem as far as lyrics and general mood of the new music is concerned. But the new album is still better than most hard rock music out there today, and it sounds much more like AIC than Jerry's solo efforts did somehow (which is not to say I didn't like Jerry's solo efforts, but they never sounded enough like AIC for me -- just sounded like something else). Overall, I enjoy the new album, especially the first two singles (coincidentally, I was in California when "Check My Brain" was released).

On a related note, Jerry was scheduled to perform at a radio festival concert I went to in 2002. Layne was discovered dead several days before, but Jerry still said he planned to perform, mostly doing AIC songs in tribute to Layne instead of his solo work that he had been supporting on tour. However, they ended up scheduling the funeral on the day of Jerry's scheduled performance, so he obviously had to cancel. He was replaced by Neurotica, who played a couple of AIC songs in tribute. The headliner that day was Stone Temple Pilots, whose lead singer Scott curiously sounds quite a bit more like Layne than William. STP opened with a cover of "Shine on You Crazy Diamond," after which Scott whispered into the microphone, "You guys know what that was about," then carried on with their regular set, which rocked the house, btw.
 Brand New Sin

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New Alice In Chains album: What are your thoughts?
Posted: 11/14/2009 9:41:48 AM
I've heard one of the new songs on the radio.

The first time I heard the song, I was confused. I thought "I've heard all of their songs, how did I miss this one?". You see, I didn't realize it was a new song, because the new vocalist is just that good!

They could not have found a better vocalist than this guy!

 XRaySpecs™

Joined: 3/13/2005
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New Alice In Chains album: What are your thoughts?
Posted: 11/14/2009 6:28:54 PM
I honestly can't think of anyone better than William DuVall as the new singer. I think Jerry Cantrell took his time and found someone he works well with. They harmonize effortlessly together. This is not to take anything away from Layne Staley's legacy, but I find I can move on easily with the new "Alice".
 SEVASTRA88

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New Alice In Chains album: What are your thoughts?
Posted: 11/15/2009 4:03:45 PM
Yeah, I compltely agree with max, There can never be another Layne Staley, but then again they sound great they still have that raw sound, Love it! :)
 SEVASTRA88

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Powderfinger All of the dreamers
Posted: 11/15/2009 4:06:09 PM
Barrio = Neighborhood, lol
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