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Posted: 7/9/2009 3:03:24 AM | I watched an SBS story on recycling recenty it was conducted in joint by a couple of universities
Bottom line it said that it is actually good to mix your kitchen scraps into the recycle bin as it shortens the life span of recycled plastic buy hundreds of years.. the molecules break down expotentially..
and to never seperate your rubbish as it is DOING MORE HARM than good in our ecology!!
So there you have it , Do not seperate your recyclables from your waste!!!
i also agree to previous post, unless people change nothing will change..
ive never been frugal with water, or turned off lights but i know people who do..
it doesnt affect me, (no it doesnt)
my life will be spent consuming resources that are available to me,, i will not go without for someone else down the track,lets face it resources are goinbg to be used up until we learn how to habitat new worlds its just a matter of time,,,i think we should be thankful that it wont affect us in our lifetimes :) So lets be happy and to not worry about the earth its dying anyway.
I also find it amusing that a lot of people who are (greenies) (treehuggers) and enviromentally aware have stocks and shares in Corporations,, theres a paradox!!
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:30:27 AM | Hi journey2407, appreciate your input. Yes I read most of the report and yes it does state how much Green power they have SOLD to the unsuspecting public like yourself. But it doesn't say anywhere in the report, unless I missed the mircoprint, how much us actually produced. They could easily be 'overselling' a resource they don't have. Is it a total to aim for? I see parts of the reports saying more power is coming online but how much? What is the generation capacity is what I was after. I mean if they could produce 20% more than what they have sold to date that would be a good thing. If they are only producing half and still selling it and not keeping up then that is criminal.
For Tassiegreatplace, AGAIN you say I am wrong about the Tassie Govt not wanting to put 1000's out of work by stopping dam building and THEN you tell me that many of them, including your family had to leave to find more work??? What part of that was wrong? I think you'll find that the Tassie Govt covers JUST Tasmania, no jobs means you have to go somewhere else! | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 4:26:01 PM | The ABARE report had some raw statistics on renewable energy production, here it is again since we've gone onto a new page
http://www.abare.gov.au/interactive/energyUPDATE08/
but it is admittedly very difficult to comprehend - petajoules instead of MWh to start with.
I tried to do some quick conversions but it didn't seem to make sense - then realised that the greenpower data doesn't include old hydro - so most of Tassie's hydro and the Snowy scheme don't qualify (this is to encourage new renewable development).
When I get time I may make it a project to research and compile some of this data. My daughter is doing a school project on renewables vs coal at the moment, so she could use it anyway. Will probably advise her not to use the POF forums as a credible reference however, her teacher may not understand  | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:38:09 PM | There are many businesses, that cannot access solar, but need lights on all day for eg..high rise buildings.highrise carparks.
Imagine how many businesses could harness this technology to self power some lights.. like..gym's (all those tread mills/exercise bikes) etc..
24hr international airports..plane speeds/vibrations..fast walkers..high rise car parks..
Imagine if connected to trains.. the speed/consistentcy.. and vibration..to name just a few.
So here's some businesses already accessing this technology..every bit helps..
Drive-Through Goes Green: Burger King Installs Kinetic Generators
BY Clay DillowWed Jul 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM
http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/clay-dillow/culture-buffet/burger-king-install-kinetic-generators-drive-through-lane
Sainsbury’s Using Parking Cars’ Kinetic Energy to Power Up.
excerpt http://www.greenoptimistic.com/2009/06/17/sainsburys-using-parking-cars-kinetic-energy-to-power-up/
Sainsbury’s, from Gloucester, UK, is the first supermarket to use the kinetic energy coming from the cars entering their parking lot to (partially) power their shop.
The system has been designed by Highway Energy Systems, the same company that uses the same technology to generate electricity from the passing cars on highways. As vehicles pass over the plates, they push the plates down and create a motion under the road’s surface, probably using the piezoelectric effect or by using the car’s weight to move some pulleys, and produce about 30kW of electricity per hour, enough to power the store’s checkout area.
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http://www.hughesresearch.co.uk/
Q1. Doesn’t the ramp just steal pennies from our petrol tanks?
A1. The ramp is designed to be situated in parts of the roadway where vehicles are having to slow down, for example on downhill gradients, when approaching traffic lights or roundabouts as well as replacing sleeping policemen and traditional traffic calming measures.
In the these situations, the kinetic energy of the car is being dissipated into heat (i.e. through the braking system) anyway; the ramp at this point scavenges a degree of kinetic energy as the car passes over it, but this is far less than is lost through other mechanisms.
Good vibrations: tiny generator harnesses kinetic energy to power wireless electrical systems
By Noel McKeegan
07:00 June 5, 2007 PDT
http://www.gizmag.com/go/7584/
Researchers at the University of Southampton have developed a kinetic energy generator which derives electrical energy from the vibrations and movements that occur within its environment. Developed by Dr Steve Beeby and his team at the University's School of Electronics & Computer Science (ECS), the tiny generator (less than 1 cubic cm in size) is 10 times more powerful than anything yet developed in the field and could form the basis of technology for self-powered pace makers and other embedded applications that require periodic replacement of batteries.
The generator produces electrical energy using an arrangement of four magnets on a cantilever with a wound coil located in the magnetic field. The magnet size and coil properties are designed to produce energy from low vibration levels and the device has been shown to convert 30% of the power supplied from the environment into useful electrical power.
The unit has been specifically designed to power wireless sensors that monitor the condition of industrial plant equipment and is to be installed within an air compressor unit supplying several laboratories. Beyond this, the potential applications are huge. For example it could be used in wireless, self-powered tyre sensors and with further development it could be applied to self-powered pace makers or to replace or augment batteries in any miniature embedded system where the periodic replacement of batteries is not feasible – particularly in wireless sensor networks containing many sensor nodes where battery replacement is problematic.
In addition to medical and industrial applications, the technology could also provide benefits for transportation through stand-alone systems that continuously monitor wheel bearings and provide feedback on potential problems with railway carriages or other large scale equipment. Similar safety monitoring systems currently used in aircraft could also become cheaper and more accessible due to advances in the field.
Vibrations from household items such as fridges, washing machines and microwave ovens as well as buildings and bridges are also suitable for the application of the model presented by Dr. Beeby.
The generator was developed as part of the EU-funded VIBES (Vibration Energy Scavenging) project.
“This is the most successful generator of its kind and generates energy much more efficiently than any similar device of its size,” said Dr Beeby. “Vibration energy harvesting is receiving a considerable amount of interest as a means for powering wireless sensor nodes. The big advantage of wireless sensor systems is that by removing wires and batteries, there is the potential for embedding sensors in previously inaccessible locations.'
According to Dr Beeby, there has been a growing interest in the field of low power miniature sensors and wireless sensor networks, but an area that has received comparatively little attention is how to supply the required electrical power to such sensors, particularly if the sensor is completely embedded in the structure with no physical connection to the outside world. He believes that the VIBES generator could hold the solution.
A paper entitled A micro electromagnetic generator for vibration energy harvesting about this research has just been published on the Journal of Micromechanics and Microengineering website.
Dr Beeby and his team plan to exploit this application further through Perpetuum, the world-leading vibration energy-harvesting company which was formed in 2004 as a spin out from the University of Southampton.
Launched at the 2009 CES this week,
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http://www.gizmag.com/npower-peg-uses-motion-to-charge-mobile-devices/10716/
Launched at the 2009 CES this week, the 9" long, 9 ounce device from Tremont Electric works when you are in motion - just plug in your mobile device, place the nPower PEG vertically in your bag or on your hip and go for a walk or run. The kinetic energy from this movement is harvested to deliver charge at the same rate as a wall charger. This translates to an 80% for most devices in an hour of walking according to the company.
Interchangeable adapters are available for charging over 90% of handheld electronic devices - media players, phones, digital cameras and GPS units. There's also plans for a range of arm bands and belt clips to hold the charger while your on the move.
Could it be smaller? Technically yes, but because the weight of the device is relative to the amount of power produced Tremont has aimed to strike a balance between portability and power output (which is up to 4 Watts) in designing the nPower PEG. Of course it could also be bigger - and produce more power - and this scalability opens up plenty of avenues for different types of products incorporating the technology.
these are just a few egs. of the technology already being implemented... although some I've read about, are working more on vibration, rather than having to actually walk... the more sensitive it is to vibration, the more it can store..
Dell, nokia.. and other mobile ph co's are looking at this technology...I've also seen research into electronics.. that need less energy for pcs for eg..
Cutting any coal emissions.will all add up... to stopping pollution in cities...and globally.
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Posted: 7/9/2009 8:32:24 PM | | well photoman001 we left to go over seas but the old man was still working for the hydro and dams are still being built here and we also do work over seas all the time i just find it funny how you go on about saving tassies bush etc and you dont even live here asthe saying goes never plez a greenie | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 9:19:52 PM | it does state how much Green power they have SOLD to the unsuspecting public like yourself. But it doesn't say anywhere in the report, unless I missed the mircoprint, how much us actually produced.
Assuming I am the "unsuspecting public" is more than slightly patronising....
sorry for the long post....
Extracted from the National Greenpower Accreditation Rules - January 2009
http://www.greenpower.gov.au/for-generators-and-retailers.aspx
2.2 What is a GreenPower Product?
GreenPower Products provide a ‘green’ tariff option to electricity purchasers (residential and/or commercial customers). The GreenPower Provider commits to ensuring an equivalent amount of Renewable Energy is produced from GreenPower Generators to the amount of GreenPower energy requested (purchased) by the GreenPower Customer.
and
2.2.1 Rules of the Program
Two key requirements are for GreenPower providers to: source all generation included in a GreenPower product from GreenPower approved sources; and purchase at least eighty per cent of GreenPower sales from ‘new’ renewable energy generation. ‘New’ is defined as any generator built or commissioned after 1 January 1997 that is GreenPower approved.
and further,
5.2 Eligibility Criteria
5.2.1 Minimum Renewable Energy Input
The electricity generator must be based primarily on a Renewable Energy resource. As such the proportion of eligible Renewable Energy input must exceed 50 per cent averaged over the Settlement Period. With the exception of minor contaminants, all renewable fuels used must be eligible under GreenPower.
5.2.2 Eligible Generation
Only the portion of the energy generated that is based on Renewable Energy resources (i.e. >50 per cent) is eligible for GreenPower approval. The annual generation of a generator shall be pro-rated on the proportion of renewable vs. non-Renewable Energy (i.e. fossil fuel) input, as detailed in the letter of approval. .
Intersting additional info
5.3 Specific Exclusions
The following fuels/technologies are not acceptable for the purposes of the definition of a GreenPower Generator.
1) Utilisation of any materials (including wastes, primary or secondary) derived from forests other than sustainably harvested plantation forests. Plantation-derived wastes must not be sourced from plantations that clear, or have cleared after 1990, existing old growth or native forests.
2) Generators that involve the incineration of industrial, commercial or municipal solid wastes.
3) Hydro-electric projects, which require new dam construction that results in large-scale flooding of ecosystems.
4) Hydro-electric projects, which involve major diversion of rivers and do not adequately allow for environmental flows.
I read somewhere in the report that they are allowed a 5% variation when renewable sources under-perform predictions (they still have to provide power when the wind isn't blowing as expected for example ), but this must be compensated for in the following period. If they breach this requirement they lose their accreditation for 2 months and need to be reassessed.
The whole process is independently audited. Unless the audit process is corrupt why would they risk cheating and losing their accreditation? It is worth a lot of money to them. I imagine Bob Brown and his associates would have someone reading these reports very carefully - if there was corruption it would come out at question time.
This is great stuff! I am easily excitable it would seem... | |
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Posted: 7/10/2009 4:47:12 AM | I think someones daughter is going to get an "A" for her assignment. Now if you build her a working windmill there could be a gold star as well.
Beaut input, so the more we buy the more they HAVE to source or produce. Interesting. Now there is a real incentive to encourage people I know to buy green energy.
I have seen other environmental endeavours 'used and abused'. I worked at the Melbourne F1 Grand Prix for a few years and they made a big deal about recycling all of the glass beer and wine bottles and paper/cardboard from the event to make peace with the locals upset about the noise and inconvenience. As a supervisor I was there late in the evenings as the JJ Richards trucks came in to empty the three different dumpers that we had gone to great pains to separate. As they tipped each of them into the same truck I questioned the driver who said "We haven't got the time or the resources to bring in different trucks". It was either all for show and the media or the GP people didn't know they were being dudded by Richards. Intentions are one thing, results are another. | |
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Posted: 7/19/2009 12:44:41 AM | I have recently gone the whole hog and started to buy the REALLY environmentally friendly toilet roll.....in the paper outer wrap instead of plastic. It had better be damn good for the environment, cos its kind of grey and scratchy and not a pleasant wiping experience.
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Posted: 7/19/2009 1:51:57 AM | Hilly, I too often use the kind of bog roll you've switched to... for the sake of the trees. Scratchy, thin and it comes in a charming shade of light poo... for camouflage? The nice thing about using this brand is that I'm not subjecting the little printed pictures of dolphins, that the prettier brands of toilet roll use, to the ultimate humiliation.
I think Flipper deserves more respect, dammit!
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Posted: 7/19/2009 4:11:09 AM | must stop drinking when at the beach, I wiped my arse with a dolphin and got really cross when the toilet roll wouldn't jump through hoops and sing happy birthday.
Some interesting comments especially the one about greenies owning shares etc. Seems to me that to afford to be a greenie one has to have played the ungreen game. I get cross that a lot of the new fads are solely based around the home and essentially put women back into scrubbing for hours, slaving over hot stoves and bloody towelling nappies. Nope I reckon stop making fast willy cars and motorbikes, stop sports cos the cost of maintaining the pristene green turfs are prohibitive especially in Aus....stop production of beer cos it produces more noxious thingies than single malt whiskey....oh hell just stop men.
I am concerned about the environment despite my apparent flippancy. I grew up country UK, saw woods I played in cut down, jumped on a lumberjacks back as a little girl trying to stop him....mum and he laughed, I didn't NOT ONE LITTLE BIT.
I didn't drive for years because a) scared and b) the quality of air (am now a hypocrite but how else to I capture errant teens during the weekend?), our food tends to be slow food, my kids have never had fish fingers, hamburgers etc...well not at home anyway. I do not use chemicals to clean the house cos I tend to cark it with asthma....though bleach is used. I used to compost and grow herbs etc (not veggies because it is not cost effective in this climate) but now I have a tiny garden, nowhere to hide the comp0st. Our planet is definately changing and whilst we cannot stop it nor even probably arrest it, we will adapt. | |
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Posted: 7/19/2009 7:39:50 AM | I tried peeing on my front lawn, but it got a bit awkward when passers by would stop and stare. I had to give it up when the neighbours started whipping out their cameras. So... back to the poo-coloured bog roll I went.
Seriously though, I've heard a bit about composting toilets and believe they are very environmentally friendly and advanced technologically... no smells, etc. I find it hard to get my head around a 'no-flush' system, but imagine if we all had them in our homes?
http://www.rotaloo.com/
http://www.nature-loo.com.au/ | |
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Posted: 7/19/2009 6:11:33 PM |
I also find it amusing that a lot of people who are (greenies) (treehuggers) and enviromentally aware have stocks and shares in Corporations,, theres a paradox!!
good point.... anyone who is in a superfund, is more than likely invested in shares anyway.. everyone... (alot would'nt know what companies theyre profiting from.. that's just unawareness...)
also yes ..alot of hippies.. did come from corporate backgrounds, but learn't money isn't everything.. actually having enough (ie you only need a certain amt of money for basic living)and having a free lifestyle.. that from the inside/out of a company you can have input..(alot of hippies, have backgrounds in lots of fields... )
Now you can choose what fund manager you use... you can choose green companies..
excerpt only.. full story @
http://business.smh.com.au/business/ethical-investing-a-difficult-option-for-funds-to-sustain-20090705-d96l.html
Ethical investing a difficult option for funds to sustainPADDY MANNING
July 6, 2009 Page 1 of 2 Single page view
A decade ago a fresh wave of interest in sustainable investing broke out in Australia - and elsewhere - but things have not turned out quite as expected.
Howard government reforms to allow choice of fund would allow anyone with super to decide how their money was invested. This would translate into greener, more human financial markets. Mainstream institutions like Westpac, AMP and Perpetual launched funds into a market niche - call it ethical, socially responsible or sustainable investing - that had been held by specialists like Australian Ethical Investments and Hunter Hall. Real money was expected to flow into this niche, then worth about $1.4 billion.
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http://www.ethical.shares.green.net.au/
Many shareholders have an interest in promoting legislation in such areas as container deposits, identification of materials, provision of recycling services.
Many shareholders are concerned by the extent of corporate influence on governments, by way of political donations, support for industry lobbyists, public relations, and ideologically based 'think tanks'. Corporate funds allocated for these purposes generally reflect the views of the board members, rather than the spread of interests of the wider group of shareholders, employees, suppliers, customers, the community and the environment.
Typical concerns include the ethical and environmental issues involved in the:
sourcing of raw materials
safety and sustainability of manufacturing processes used
nature of wastes produced, methods and extent of re-use, recycling and disposal
ethics of relationships with other stakeholders, including employees, communities and environment
quality of information provided to the media by our companies
donations to political parties, lobby groups, and ideological 'think tanks' by our companies.
You may not be a direct investor, but you probably own superannuation funds which are invested on your behalf. You could write your fund to ask them to support ethical/green resolutions.
If you are concerned for the long term environmental and social future of our companies and of Australia, please ask your parents, other relatives, and friends, who may share your views, whether they have shares in any of the companies for which Ethical/Green Shareholders Groups have formed.
Concerned shareholders can influence their companies by:
voting in favour of ethical and environmental resolutions by marking their ballot sheets and posting them back to the company
making proxies available to those who can attend company meetings, especially AGMs
supporting environmental and ethical resolutions presented to these meetings (it requires over 100 genuine shareholders to get a resolution on the agenda)
suggesting improved practices
letter writing, to the Chairman, CEO and senior management
if satisfactory answers can't be obtained from our companies, letter writing to politicians & newspapers.
To find contact details for groups - click here for Contacts Page
Sometimes people feel apathetic/or powerless.. but from experience.. if enough people join together and believe thay can make a difference ..( a petition aust wide for eg) they empower each other... for eg.. political polls.. how the public react, can change policies.. just check out our civil liberties group..aust for eg..
also aust will be making an australian constitution soon... is anyone reading up on it? contributing, to what will be in it?... you can if your interested..
and as you can see , if just 100 legitimate shareholders in a co.... (buy 1 share even)
they can put agendas to the co.... so buying shares can also help.. change .. on a larger scale/level...corporations..
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Posted: 7/20/2009 5:39:46 AM |
Our planet is definately changing and whilst we cannot stop it nor even probably arrest it, we will adapt.
This statement is one that most of use and on first reading it seems like a very sad but true statement about the reality of life. But in actuality, not only is it a cop out, it's completely illogical,.
The cop out is saying that 'our planet is changing', because it makes out that we are separate from the planet and that the planet is changing on it's own, when in fact we are the ones that are changing it and so, if we are the ones changing it then logically we can stop it, we just can’t be bothered.
The 'we will adapt' bit isn't strictly true either, we won't so much adapt but rather we'll adapt our environment, we’re already doing it.
We can afford to pulp all our rainforests because we can replace them all with stands of fast growing single species trees, it won’t be much good for a lot of the other species of animals that require a diverse range of flora for their survival, but then, we don’t need a lot of different species for our survival, just a good supply of beef cattle, sheep and fish... and we can grow them in sheds and tanks. Of course single stands of pine trees aren’t particularly sustainable because they degrade the soil fairly quickly, but then we won’t be needing trees at all for much longer...bioengineers have developed synthetic trees that will that will remove the co2 from the atmosphere, they don’t turn it into oxygen like the old fashioned ones, that doesn’t matter though because most of our oxygen comes from algae. I suppose if shiny synthetic trees are possible then it won’t be long before science develops a new strand of super algae, which will be able to produce vastly more oxygen thereby allowing us to turn the ocean into waste dumps.
Yep we will change our planet, and adapt by adapting our environment, but it all seems kinda’ stupid and pointless really cos I reckon it was working pretty well in the first place. I guess one way or another we’ll survive... though watching a the sunset across the artificial ponds of blooming super algae, or bush walking through the silent forests of synthetic trees just doesn’t sound very appealing to me.
What will you do for your bit?
Just recently changed my monthly donation, instead of giving it to Amnesty International, I now give it to The wilderness society...save the the animals and forests...bugger the humans...there's already too many of us. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2009 10:47:33 AM | Anything the Government are involved in will take a while. Back in post 42 I had fired off emails to various people about Green Power. Almost 2 weeks later I got a well written reply from Sustainability Victoria with a 70 page report attached. First from the Email author: (Part)
In the interest of a comparison, GreenPower purchases in 2007 came to a total of 1,202,079 MWh for the year, 2008 is still in the process of being audited and the final results of the RECs purchased are in the process of being balanced, before they are released to the public on our website, however they are close to 1,800,000 MWh.
In Australia grid electricity supply was 220,000,000 MWh (in 2005 - 6) in accordance with the attached document from ABARE table 28 page 39.
It means that we produced close to 0.5% of the total electricity supplied to the grid in 2007. There is in other words still a little way to go for us.
In terms of the greenhouse gas this represents, the total greenhouse gas emitted by Australia in 2007 was approximately 545 MTCO2-e (in accordance with the national greenhouse gas inventory (refer http://www.climatechange.gov.au/inventory/2007/pubs/nggi_2007.pdf page 1). The Greenhouse gas emitted for the equivalent electricity produced to what was purchased in 2007 for GreenPower would have been 1.2 MTCO2-e, which is approximately 0.2%. This is compared to the total amount of Greenhouse gas emitted though and includes greenhouse gas from cars, waste and other activities as well as electricity production. In all that electricity production is responsible for just over 30% of the total CO2 emissions.
I suppose the things that jump out are that we are still waiting for the 2008 audit figures late in the 7th month of 2009. No wonder the Government can't get a fire warning system happening if they need 7 months to add up a few numbers! Almost one million consumers have signed up for 'some' part of their power to be supplied from 'Green' energy. (Out of 9.5million, so over 10%) Yet the 2007 figure shows that equates to less then 0.5% of power consumption. So those figures, although out of date, suggest people opted for the minimum green power. I'm hoping by now that the 0.5% is much higher. All of our employees have signed for 100% Green Power and were compensated by the company. The estimates vary but it looks like around $1 per day extra or around $350PA. Not a fortune really to go totally green power. Like lots of other things it looks like this too has to be consumer driven. We demand more Green Energy and sign up for it so the Government then HAS to supply it.
The quote I included above says that 30% of all CO2 emissions comes from generating electricity. So for every 10% we switch to Green Energy cuts those emissions by 3%. We talk about Earth temperatures rising by 1 degree, or oceans rising 1 inch or the Government only working towards a 5% reduction in Carbon by 2050. Maybe it's time to show them we are serious. I mean who would have predicted 25 years ago that that not only would the Tasmanian Tree Huggers be in Parliament but they would share the balance of power, that towns would be banning plastic water bottles and buses would be running on used Chip shop oil? Let's show the world we still are 'the clever country'. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2009 6:25:35 PM |
also aust will be making an australian constitution soon... is anyone reading up on it? contributing, to what will be in it?... you can if your interested..
My apologies..mistake.. I meant Australia was making a Bill Of rights..
not constitution..
anyhoo Its closed now..
excerpt from
http://www.humanrightsact.com.au/2008/
The deadline for submissions to the NATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS CONSULTATION has now passed, as has the opportunity to participate in the online forum . Over 40,000 submissions were received during this porcess, a good indicaiton of the significant community interest in this issue.
We thank all of you who have made a submission. The Human Rights Act for Australia campaign submission is posted on this web-site, together with a selection of individual and group submissions.
The Attorney General has agreed to a request by Father Frank Brennan, Chair of the National Human Rights Consultation Committee, for a further one month extension to the reporting date of the National Human Rights Consultation. The Committee will now report to Government by 30 September 2009.
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Posted: 7/20/2009 7:26:15 PM |
Just recently changed my monthly donation, instead of giving it to Amnesty International, I now give it to The wilderness society...save the the animals and forests...bugger the humans...there's already too many of us.
Won't that comment get you spanked?
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Posted: 7/21/2009 12:21:25 AM |
Won't that comment get you spanked?
I can only live in hope.
...And after the spanking comes the oral sex
I spent half the morning trying to source a piece of timber of a particular structural grade that wasn't from the rainforests of Borneo....with out success...does that get me a double spanking? | |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 3:05:31 AM | ^^^ Would you just settle? Sheesh!
I helped the environment today by having a very short shower. Not on purpose... it's just that the gas bottle ran out at the very moment I was covered in soap and shampoo. Mmmmmm... a lovely rinse off with ice cold water in the middle of winter. That's what I call 'bracing'! I hope the environment was happy, coz I sure wasn't. 
Ps: Could someone please alert me when the spankings begin? I'd like front row/centre seats. Thanks.  | |
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