| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/20/2009 6:25:35 PM |
also aust will be making an australian constitution soon... is anyone reading up on it? contributing, to what will be in it?... you can if your interested..
My apologies..mistake.. I meant Australia was making a Bill Of rights..
not constitution..
anyhoo Its closed now..
excerpt from
http://www.humanrightsact.com.au/2008/
The deadline for submissions to the NATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS CONSULTATION has now passed, as has the opportunity to participate in the online forum . Over 40,000 submissions were received during this porcess, a good indicaiton of the significant community interest in this issue.
We thank all of you who have made a submission. The Human Rights Act for Australia campaign submission is posted on this web-site, together with a selection of individual and group submissions.
The Attorney General has agreed to a request by Father Frank Brennan, Chair of the National Human Rights Consultation Committee, for a further one month extension to the reporting date of the National Human Rights Consultation. The Committee will now report to Government by 30 September 2009.
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/20/2009 7:26:15 PM |
Just recently changed my monthly donation, instead of giving it to Amnesty International, I now give it to The wilderness society...save the the animals and forests...bugger the humans...there's already too many of us.
Won't that comment get you spanked?
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/21/2009 12:21:25 AM |
Won't that comment get you spanked?
I can only live in hope.
...And after the spanking comes the oral sex
I spent half the morning trying to source a piece of timber of a particular structural grade that wasn't from the rainforests of Borneo....with out success...does that get me a double spanking? | |
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/21/2009 3:05:31 AM | ^^^ Would you just settle? Sheesh!
I helped the environment today by having a very short shower. Not on purpose... it's just that the gas bottle ran out at the very moment I was covered in soap and shampoo. Mmmmmm... a lovely rinse off with ice cold water in the middle of winter. That's what I call 'bracing'! I hope the environment was happy, coz I sure wasn't. 
Ps: Could someone please alert me when the spankings begin? I'd like front row/centre seats. Thanks.  | |
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/21/2009 4:09:53 AM | ...And after the spanking comes the oral sex
Saving the environment is kind of raunchy eh. 
Ya know, I had really just been looking for any excuse to use that spank emoticon I saw shown on another thread, which didn't work anyway...but if you go to the url in my last post you'll see it. It's a cutie. I didn't see an oral sex emoticon though sorry, she says in a vague attempt to bring this thread back to a G rating before LULT gets conned by a ticket scalper.
But on a more serious note...your last post Jules...I totally agree. People sometimes use the phrase "I wouldn't want to live like that" in relation to certain things they imagine would reduce the joy of being alive, which is an acknowledgement that mere existence of human life is not the primary goal...quality of life is critical. And well, I'd extend it to the sort of stuff you were describing. Fake trees, no animals other than those being mass produced in concrete cages for us to consume, living in glass bubbles, oceans and skies we have polluted beyond recognition. I pity future generations who might never know the sights and sounds and sensations of our natural planet...the things that put your balance to rights on the inside, and make you feel you belong here, and are part of it, rather than mistakenly thinking you are it. Maybe they will live like c0ckroaches...they are survivors too...but would you wanna be one?
Still love a comment Caves made somewhere...tree huggers can be really annoying, but they make great ancestors.
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/21/2009 4:38:32 AM | "The Environment " around here has this all pervading rich organic smell coming on the breeze... (insert road kill type stench)...
the local ginger farmers for miles around have just been preparing their beds for a plant.... digging in tons of smelly stuff into the rich red volcanic dirt....
with the west/Nwest winds coming from "over the back" it brings various degrees of stinkyness.... sometimes strong... sometimes subtle.... like a fart in church subtle, or a direct under the nose catfart subtle..eww. ....
you swear there's something dead under the fridge... in the fridge?, under the house, down in the yard, on the road........ EVERYWERE!!!..... PPPoooooooo..... though it will abate... or the wind will change direction.. sigh,,,
the vagaries of rural enviornment.... 
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/21/2009 6:05:18 AM | Oh I hear ya beachippy. My office is in Werribee 26km west of Melbourne, famous for the sewerage treatment settling ponds where the waste is treated before going out to sea. I must admit though that with new age chemicals it hardly smells at all these days but just now and then .............
Now we also have a beach not too far south of us where over summer we had piles of rotting seaweed strewn along the sand. The council were taking it away in truckloads but often it sat there for weeks in the sun. Then we have market gardens less than half a kilometre away. Whilst I do appreciate the fresh produce at my local supermarket we can ALWAYS tell when the cow manure is being added to the soil. Now all of these things are either from nature or improving it but really, I prefer the smell of Jasmine! | |
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/21/2009 6:28:50 AM |
It had better be damn good for the environment, cos its kind of grey and scratchy and not a pleasant wiping experience.
you arent supposed to use the outside wrapper for that...lol
Seriously, read the wrappers on dunnie roll, they have an environmental stamp and statement, they no longer use chlorine to bleach the paper, and both major brands use renewable pine and eucalypt not rainforrest supplies.......as to the plastic wrapper the makers are doing their best, I know that one supplier (Sorbent / Purex) reduced the thickness of the plastic from 40micron to 25micron (every little bit helps)
you dont need to suffer the itchy and scratchy, I find it more important that they pass the "wet burst strength test". Ill let you figure out why.......
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/22/2009 11:42:09 PM |
This statement is one that most of use and on first reading it seems like a very sad but true statement about the reality of life. But in actuality, not only is it a cop out, it's completely illogical,.
As a hippy I should object to be coupled with the words cop out...but I don't. See your point but some of it is as assuming as mine appeared to illogical. If we were not part of this planet there would be no need to adapt.
As for dunnies rolls, does nicking unbleached ones from the local supermarket make you the hero above all others by refusing to buy into the capitalist system?
I am also conserving personal energy stores and ignoring the capitalist system by sitting in McDonald carpark with a thermos of coffee, appropriating their internet.
Hmm sorry me Lud.....but you seriously cannot consider encarcerating me for toilet paper and the internet.....surely that is for tabloid journalists? | |
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/23/2009 4:05:06 PM | | I like the toilet paper with little green frogs on it >"They" say it's " environmentally friendly and it's cheap and i love frogs and somehow I know they know it's "a far far better world " they"re going to etc. Toilets are interesting places . You are either a reader or not and I'm sure it's good for the environment if a human being relaxes in the little room . | |
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/24/2009 9:23:53 AM | That reminds me when I was writing in the late 70's (prob 1979) about the danger of the electromagnetic field from high tension powerlines. All new back then but fairly common knowledge today. There was a guy around the Morwell area living in a old caravan in a paddock. He had a large coil of copper wire under a high voltage power pylon and hooked up to the caravan. It was providing him with enough free power to live on. When the (then) SEC found out about it they came out and put a fence around the pylon denying him access. So he just moved the caravan 100 metres to the next pylon, until they fenced that too. He did wonder how many of the 100,000 pylons they would fence as he just moved down the road a way.
When we heard this story and others we took some household fluro tubes out to one of the local pylons and standing under it with a tube in each hand watched them light up like a Jedi light saber. A great party trick if you have any of those steel monsters running through your neighbourhood. No way they power companies can deny the power output from those lines when you can prove it like that so easily.
My next crusade will be killer Microwaves!! Watch this space ............ | |
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 7/26/2009 8:45:26 AM |
He had a large coil of copper wire under a high voltage power pylon and hooked up to the caravan.
I do not approve of stealing (toilet roll aside and I meant local shopping centre not a shop and twas many moons ago when things were really tight) but that dear sir is BRILLIANT. Actually whilst I have absolutely no knowledge of physics etc....if he had done something clever with magnets and longer cable...he might never have had to move. I really like this story.
I have a friend who whilst reasonably wealthy and by no means a stingy person decided he had had enough of risking his ex's taking everything etc, his having to pay rates etc so he bought a small caravan, parked it in a caravan site near the beach and pays practically nothing to live, about $60 per week for caravan, elec, water etc and not much more on food. He gets neighbours who all know eachother, watch out for each other, he gets to live in pristine bush cum beach and when he has friends over, there is no one who beats his outside entertainment area......I envy him in an odd way and he is so much happier. The added benefit being that when he meets someone he does not fear they only like him for his money and perceived social status. Clever man and when he hopefully find someone who realises what an amazingly warm, caring man he is...wow is she in for an extra surprise.
Am now considering appropriating copper wiring. | |
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| The Environment - Are you concerned about it? What are you doing to help?
Posted: 8/4/2009 7:15:50 AM | | Yes Julian, that seems to happen lots with people "jumping on the green bandwagon". I've spent a week or so talking with people in and about the NSW town that banned bottled water. One of the 'commercial' greenie groups has now hijacked that campaign and is using it to feather the nest of his organisation to the detriment of the town concerned. The problem is that many of the unknowing, good natured folk in the town have no idea they are being used for point scoring and money making. Sort of takes the shine of people doing something good. | |
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