| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 12:36:41 PM | Er. Um. Actually if you look it was the first response to the OP that I commented on.
Not the OP.
And what about the line "I've never had anyone pay my way in life" is a lie? You make a bold assumption about someone...or do you know them?
I appreciate the fact you confused "She" with the OP who is male, and I appreciate the fact you didn't validate anything you stated, but felt the need to tear me down, and I appreciate the fact that you were not the quoted person (again, post #2) and then tried to suggest it was you.
Read what you type prior to hitting send, please folks. Make sure it's not word-salad (and please, for the love of whatever, google that term, Vannili I fear you might suffer from it).
Sorry, Vannili, you're just wrong in this instance. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 12:37:06 PM |
I don't see too many executives picking their wives up from behind a McD's counter.
because they would go to jail for it. Most of the ones working at Mcd's are under age teens or retired ...um ....."age enhanced" folk
Looks like the art of ananlogy is lost. So lets break it down. You don't see many men w/ executive level income looking for or being w/ women from significantly lower income levels. And in today's economy you can find more and more "legal" age people working the minimum wage type jobs to keep their life together. McD's was just an example.  | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 12:41:59 PM |
You don't see many men w/ executive level income looking for or being w/ women from significantly lower income levels.
Trophy wives, the concept thereof, is still viable in our society. Women with social backing, but no real finances of their own.
And some of it may be regional- here in the South it's considered the norm for women to be fair and helpless at home while Mr.Man earns everything for them.
It's a bad notion, but things take time to change. Always treat the person you're with as you would want to be treated in a relationship. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 12:51:13 PM | Daynadaze
<div class='quote'> Well I'm financially in the toilet ,so yeah,he's going to be a good moneymaker. I've never had anyone pay my way in life so that would be cool, I could be one of these gold diggers that whiner are always crying about!  Woohoo!
I have my proof , thanks Daynadaze..
Severin78 it is breaking my heart and I am suffering that I offended you, I am asking you a million forgiveness. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 1:12:13 PM | "How important is money?"
I have a theory............and here it is..............
"It`s aways about the money"..............if you doubt that just read thru the posts and ask yourself these questions...Can I live without money...........?.....Can he or she live without money...?...Do they have more money than me..?....or less for that matter...?
Money is for good or bad how we keep track..............Do you doubt that..?..Everything we do in life revolves around money or the lack of it......
When I take a trip to a foreign country it is no different when it comes to this subject.
It is essential to survive................We worry about the lack of it.....We worry about how best to conserve it...........Each year at tax time we think about how to to pay only our fair share................it`s probably on our minds more than sex.......
I say..............."It`s always about the money"................That`s my theory and I`m sticking to it.............................. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 1:46:42 PM |
Everything we do in life revolves around money or the lack of it......
Some people live there lives without money being involved at all like the Amish for example & they seem happy with there lives. Rite now I'm thinking of that song by Mike & The Mechanics ~ " I'm a Beggar on Beach of Gold".
With my family all around me
Ive all the riches I can hold
Im a beggar
Sitting on a beach of gold | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 1:47:51 PM | | It's not about having what you want. It's about being happy with what you have | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 2:03:59 PM | "Some people live there lives without money being involved at all like the Amish for example & they seem happy with there lives."
It`s just not true that the Amish live their lives without money....true ...they live a very frugal life,but to say that they live their lives without money....do a little simple Google and you will find that they hold jobs for money,pay bills with money....etc............I stand by my theory........... | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 2:19:39 PM | I'm all over this thread - money is my business.
We live in a communist country. Just read the Communist Manifesto planks and you will see that they are all in effect in the good ole U.S. of A. The fifth plank calls for a Central Bank, that controls the issuance of credit. A central planner who decides who gets the money. Sound fishy yet? In this country that central planner is called the Federal Reserve and they are a PRIVATE bank who doesn't release the names of their shareholders, or allow an audit. They are quietly skimming the energy/money from all of us by printing up money out of thin air. The more currency (inflation), the less value each dollar has, and the more everything costs. That is why you used to be able to get a gallon of gas for 20 cents.
Until recently, this was a slow process that most people miss. But kind of like water flushing in the toilet, the death spiral is speeding up faster and faster. The Feds are printing more and more, and we don't even know where it's all going. Check out Alan Grayson questioning the Fed Reserve board VP for more on that.
So to answer the question - good people who have shame and produce/earn their keep will find it harder and harder to make do in a world that increasingly punishes the producers through taxation and inflation.
While the people with money are more than likely the moochers/looters in society - ie. the recipients of government money & gov contracts, police and others in the legal system, politicians and bureaucrats, welfare recipients, etc...
I'll take a poor girl with integrity over a rich girl who whored it up to get where she's at any day. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 2:24:58 PM | "While the people with money are more than likely the moochers/looters in society"
And why is it that you were going to be a real estate investor? | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 2:30:56 PM |
And why is it that you were going to be a real estate investor?
Real Estate is always a good thing, as land is about the best asset you can have. It was easier 5 years ago when they credit was easy and the rates were low, but the credit isn't so easy now. I'm changing tactics because I'm seeing the home prices continuing to go down and I think they have a ways to go. So for now, I'm investing in precious metals, and when the time is right I will cash out for real estate again. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 2:36:59 PM | if it's land that you want - I've got a few vacant lots that I could sell to you
FYI - there are always people making money in real estate, it doesn't matter what the market is like - you just have to change your approach.
What my point was it that you are again condescending towards all of us, just because we have a different opinion than you. But then you throw around how you want to get into real estate investing. Do you think no money ever changes hands in investing? | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 2:47:06 PM | varina-
I have no problem with money changing hands when the money is being given VOLUNTARILY for goods and services rendered. What I have a problem with is when the money is taken by force - taxes, tickets, & inflation. That is communism/socialism and it's not what America is supposed to be. I pray that we can turn this country around. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2009 2:51:29 PM | "While the people with money are more than likely the moochers/looters in society -"
and yet, you have no problem to generalize again and assume that most people that have money made it the dishonest way. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2009 2:56:56 PM |
Just read the Communist Manifesto planks and you will see that they are all in effect in the good ole U.S. of A. The fifth plank calls for a Central Bank, that controls the issuance of credit. A central planner who decides who gets the money. Sound fishy yet?
But your assertion is false- While we do have a centralized banking system we never bothered with the first 4 conditions, or really the later 5 conditions of a communist state.
The Manifesto was more concerned with class struggle with hints of a workers paradise, given the context it was written in, it's really hardly comparable to America today.
But, I am with you that the Fed is garbage, I've always been Jacksonian in my beliefs on that- he fought tooth/nail against it, and actually succeeded in ending the bank, for a period.
I also agree that those with money do tend to be, as you call them, moochers, but to a point. Even individuals can claim a good bit of money from the government if they know how, I did, and it helped me tremendously.
We could go on and on discussing this, but I would encourage you to read Capital by Marx, since you seem to have such an interest in him. He goes into the exploitation of labor (lightly), and what a fallacy capitalism really is. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2009 3:09:00 PM | For clarification, I don't believe that everyone with money is either a moocher or looter. There are a lot of entrepreneurial Americans out there. I DO see where we are slipping further and further towards socialism/communism. I also see more and more of the truly creative/productive people freaking out over where our country is going, because they are the ones that are being asked to pay for all this mess.
I can also give examples for every plank of the manifesto, but I'll start that thread in the philosophy section later. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 3:11:45 PM | What does my head in is when the first question out of a womans mouth is 'what do you do?' ie i'll only date you if you have a good job & will take care of me.
Whats worse is women are even demanding this pre-requisite in their profile, like this example:
I'm looking for a man who has the 3 M's... Manners, Muscles and Money
How bad is that? YUK !! | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 3:25:19 PM | | Yes money is important. I am not saying tons of them but a comfortable life style (again not to an exsessive degree) is a must. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2009 3:33:02 PM |
Do you think no money ever changes hands in investing?
it most definatly changes hands but there are many different investments and some have tangible trade offs.
Then there is the invisible investments meaning they don't really exist. I prefer visiting my friendly Gold dealers and trading in my dollars for a piece of Gold because while the dollar is declining gold use is still on the rise yet gold mining is on a down swing so that means it does not take a econamist or even someone mapping the supply and demand curve to see the imbalance about to take place.
Even real estate does not have the same growth ability or ROI because you have things like upkeep and taxes where as I could bury gold in the ground and when dug up it will be worth more money ARRG..lol... (Sorry lame attempt to sound like a pirate)
Gold is tradable in any country by both private and public traders so even if the complete finacial system comes crumbling down due to the fact it is used in manufacturing and many other uses it will always be in demand.
your Fed credits aka dollars are only worth 3 cents per dollar if the system crashes.
three pieces of copper is all.
I prefer something more real for my hard work. something that can withstand the flames of a fire and instead of burning up into nothing it will just get more refined and pure.
Just my opinions | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 3:35:15 PM | I believe in equality (hurray I hear women scream), so a bloke on an average wage shacking up with a girl on the similar is great, but when a woman filters out all but those on much higher money is bad.
Maybe us men should be grateful these women show their true colours early on so we can spend more time looking for a descent genuine woman. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2009 3:40:00 PM | juno-first-
I'd quit with the feminism now before you get your heart ripped out over and over by women who don't respect you for not making enough money. Women, whether they admit it or not, want to see you as a provider. That means you need to make more money than her. She's supposed to make up for that by taking care of you when you need it. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2009 3:40:48 PM | I think people need to have a similar attitude in regards to money to avoid problems in this area. Also people need to be able to communicate. I can handle my own and appreciate other's who can as well.
So many times I've seen people arguing after one has acted like they are on their own and ran up a huge debt leaving the other partly responsible.
In regards to the opening post, and if I were to fall for someone already having financial problems. Well chit happens sometimes and it depends on how that person is planning to deal with it.
I don't believe a person with money is any better than another with less. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 3:57:07 PM | | There's a difference between going through a rough patch and perhaps not even having much actual disposable income left after paying bills and someone that never seems to get off of that hamster wheel. If someone has some issues and is doind what they can to overcome the situation, I would not have a problem with that. I would have a problem, particularly with my kids still at home, if the person was the type that would wind up sucking me dry financially; wouldn't sign up for that no matter how great the guy is. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2009 4:10:34 PM | Dont tell anyone but im secretly rich! My profile is a ruse to get a girl that thinks im poor and homeless then on our wedding day im going to make a surprise announcement that my father is the owner of Dufferin construction and I am inheriting the company.
pffftt..... I wish. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 7/5/2009 4:34:10 PM | A partner having money's importance is directly proportionate to the number of other options you have.
"Is there another girl I could get just as hot that has money?" "No. Oh i guess i don't care about her having money then." | |
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