| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 7/28/2009 7:06:11 PM | well if you worked with children in care you must be familiar Winnicott and attachment theory? I agree with you on some points, children running away from abusive families etc but thats what i was saying welfare of families, support the parents and give them help with their issues, do attachment work, family therapy. Much cheaper on the state than the cost of child placement, prison placement , mental hosptial placement, life time perscriptions expensive psychiatric drugs, dole, disability allownaces, as well hostels etc etc a little foresight and planning intervention and prevention rather than a short sighted reaction (kids in care parents in prison). Also those parents you want to throw into jail and deport, just because they are adults does not mean they are mature and responsible, they are underdeveloped people who had poor parenting themselves and are in need of a lot of interventions.
Didnt mean to sound condesending. Just get irrate. | |
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 7/29/2009 12:07:25 AM | Why worry?
If your not interested,,, when they hold out their cup, simply say, "no thank you"
I don't pay people to sit on the sidewalk, but, nor do i try to judge them. even if some are llittle **stards. | |
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 7/29/2009 7:04:45 AM | "I am talking about parents who deliberately deny their children the opportunities they deserve by using them as pawns in the begging game on the streets!"
Do you mean that there are parents on the streets of Dublin who have a choice to, say, send their kids to Disneyland but choose to line their own pockets by turning them out to a life of crime? Is that what you're saying? Are those parents driving new cars home every night to their country estates while their children prostitute themselves? | |
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 7/30/2009 6:26:25 PM | Scenicgirl
I know your heart is in the right place but the years have hardened me. I think that you can’t teach an old dog new tricks’ and for abusive parents its more than of too late to try and start reforming them as laudable as the attempt may be.
For the kids on the other hand there is hope; hope of giving them the chance of a decent start in life. The logistics of how that can be achieved is another matter but the principle is important.
PS – I like when you get irate; I admire your enthusiasm, shows you care!
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 7/31/2009 7:13:33 AM | ^^^^She's just trolling like a mad thing.^^^^I disagree, thats more a grundy character trait than a scenicgirl character trait added to which scenicgirl is nice eyecandy ;) keep posting scenicgirl, your comments about how to deal with beggers by offering care rather than condemnation is admirable :)
Its nice to see some Irish people care enough to at least try. A few tend to just criticise and condemn without even trying to understand what a begger has to go through, no problems are solved without understanding the problem. Most beggers dont beg to make a living, they beg to live.
Id sooner give to a begger than a charity, at least the money goes where it can do most help. Charities pay salaries, pay for offices, company cars, etc. whereas most beggers dont have a salary, office or company car. Anyone remember the scandal a few years ago with the ISPCC? How many thousands of pounds was robbed by executives that was intended for unfortunate children? That problem is lessened by giving directly to those that need it. | |
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 7/31/2009 8:57:23 AM |
Besides....it's not as if scenicgirl has actually made a sensible contribution on this thread, in reality. She's just trolling like a mad thing.
Because disagreeing with our friend TDW here *obviously* makes you a troll, right?
The irony of you undermining someone then calling *them* the troll isn't lost on either me or scenicgirl, I'd imagine.
I apologise TDW, for the fact that... unlike yourself... we actually pride ourselves on having basic human qualities such as empathy and compassion, and put them to use. | |
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 7/31/2009 9:08:27 AM | ok when the babies stop name calling and can come up with an argument i'm all ears. so whats your solution boys, care and prison? Hows that been working out??
And thanks oh valant defenders!!
Oh and for someone like you GDAE who is limitied by the belief that you cant teach and old dog new tricks, well I'm not suprised that you dont beleive there is potential to reform the parents. Humans are nothing if not constantly changing growing and evolving, once they are open to it, and education and informing opens people to it. Recovery projects have fantastic positve outcomes but of course only a handful of people can access such services as all the states money is tied up in the multi million euro industry of locking people up, in care homes, prisons and mental hospitals. | |
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 7/31/2009 6:10:37 PM | Arrrrrgggghhhh...I'd have more respect for you if you were not such a hopeless flirt!!
So you respect me some-I'm flattered...........smiling at you sweetheart.Can’t help it I'm a compulsive flirt. Besides I was just being nice to her because she apologised. Really the ladies on the forums are just not my type; honestly…………………………lol!
Scenicgirl
You disappoint me by becoming condescending again. Try not to get so emotional when you argue- it’s unbecoming!
In a few decades you will realise that people change very little as time goes by. They have already been hardwired. Never mind MADAM DYING WISH; your enthusiasm is laudable! | |
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 7/31/2009 6:50:52 PM | "You disappoint me by becoming condescending again"
its a forum, isnt that what we are all here for?
Anyway i'm off on my hols, i'll miss ye all!! | |
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 10/5/2009 3:33:59 AM | | It pisses me off because now there are so many frauds, I dont mind given to genuine homeless people but now there are so many people begging. Those bloody romanian women I hate them they should be deported and as for these young fellas that try get yer change at the luas really pisses me off! | |
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 10/5/2009 6:29:21 PM | | It is the same here in California. They sit in the intersections amongst the cars begging for spare change, holding a little sign that reads "Will work for food, God Bless" I had a chance once to really talk to a 'lady'. She said at the end of the day she can earn $100.00 US and will call her heroin dealer. I gave a man a hamburger and a bible and he told me to F*** off! | |
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| Beggars on our streets?
Posted: 10/7/2009 3:00:29 AM | | If I was homeless the last thing I would want is some do gooder trying to push her religious beliefs on me and I would probably tell you to **** off too. | |
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