| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/9/2009 6:53:21 PM | Damn and there was i thinking "The Angry Pirate" and " The Spiderman" are goals not just ideas :p
Incase some of you ladies are too sweet an innocent to know these terms ...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The%20Angry%20Pirate | |
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Joe1uk
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Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 52 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/9/2009 7:14:59 PM | Well I hate to break it to you but you've probably just dismissed 99.9% of men. Most men watch porn. I'd be more depressed about the way women get treated and why they're doing commercial porn , as a lot of them are damaged from childhood or are forced into it rather than worrying about how it objectifies sex.
Not all men or women watching it or taking part objectify sex just because they watch porn that does, some of us can differentiate between fiction and reality. An actor who is nothing but a turn convenient turn on in the absence of a girl friend that is a turn on and a loving partner.
Don't blame your man for watching it, blame the people who pay the actors, or force the actors. | |
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tm1971
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Joined: 5/22/2009
Msg: 53 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/9/2009 10:34:12 PM | | ^^^^ Oh bollocks! Show me where woman are forced into commercial porn? Women do porn because it pays well, very well and they do not think of the damage it will do until they are either told they have a prolapsed anus or hiv. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 12:41:54 AM |
Do men take too much from porn and assume that that is exactly what we want?
Some men might, but not all.
Porn gives us ideas, and shows us various ways of putting them into practice, but it all depends on the willingness (or lack of it) of our partner.
Besides, it's not always the male who is the inventive one. It was a woman who showed me how to kiss 'open-mouthed', it was a woman who first introduced me to the joys of kissing feet, it was a woman who introduced me to oral sex, it was a woman who first showed me how a vibrator should be used on her, and it was a woman who first suggested I perform anal on her........I had never seen any porn dealing with such things prior to those times. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 1:44:50 AM | So anal sex is purely for Gay people? are you aware how many nerve endings are in the anus? or where the male g-spot is? 
besides its not gay unless u reacharound :) | |
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tm1971
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Joined: 5/22/2009
Msg: 56 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 2:26:35 AM | ^^^^ exactly i have no issues in giving my partner a prostate massage during fellatio. And I have to agree with Zeegary but I also have to state what i meant was for instance some of the porn movies extreme sexual scenarios, gentleman the ladies fake it majority of the time and they are not even that good at it. What i meant is for instance and please excuse me for saying this as I do consider myself a lady, fisting, watersports, skull fecking, drinking their man juice (majorly eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew), watersports, double penetration, sorry but my g spot is not up my botty, threesomes, dogging, gangbangs, sharing him with my best friend thinking that we enjoy being treated like a porn star. Well those are my personal no, no's lol
Now i shall go and bow my head in shame!
one last thing everyone loves being a dirty boy or dirty girl every now and then but not every single day. | |
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HenXX
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Joined: 6/16/2009
Msg: 57 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 3:02:54 AM | Its all about finding a partner who is into the same as you.Yes,I have had suggestions made that I was not into,luckily before I got intimate with them,so used that as a basis on sexual compatability and made my choice on the future of the relationship.Is it not normal to at least skim over your likes and dislikes?Yes Ive had the boring lovers who think Its all about their needs but never suggestions of gangbangs etc in a relationship.
As for porn,I have long time accepted thats what men do,doesnt bother me in the least.Fantasy and reality are two totally different things. | |
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Joe1uk
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Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 58 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 8:45:27 AM | a lot of women like anal sex and water sports, a lot like double penetration too, thats where the rabbit comes in. Not that I need any to enjoy sex. The ones that do enjoy anal are scared to admit it, its just not the done thing for women to admit it, they all have to pretend they hate it and it hurts them.  Is that sticking up for the ones that don't like it or ashamed of what the ones that don't like it will say about them. womens logic.
never say never, especially if you haven't tried it, it sounds very closed minded and boring. You may try them and like them, you may try them and hate them or you may just agree to do them now and again to please your partner in return for doing something he doesn't get much out of. Its all about trying to please each other.
If you really don't like doing something then fair enough, you shouldn't do it.
As for forced sex. Yes many do do it for the money or just because they enjoy it. However
The days of all porn stars being paid are long gone I'm afraid. You're forgetting about the internet and how its changed the markets. Many porn films, especially extreme porn aren't major film studios anymore such as playboy, private etc. They're made by criminals, they buy girls or steal them or trick them and keep them against their will. Forcing them to into prostitution and sex. They bring girls here take their passport and force them to be prostitutes. They take their chance to star in films with these slaves to make extra cash. They put clips on the porn equivalent of you tube, there's at least a dozen of them out there that have hardcore for free no sign up. They link to their site where the whole film or more clips can be bought.
Its pretty obvious by the look on her face that she's not enjoying and not consented to being slapped about, strangled and forced to choke on the bloke till she's nearly sick.
The prostitute site is quite horrific too, most are beaten until they agree to do it, they fear for their lives . many including in this country, especially down london are just fed on fast food, a big mac meal a day. They are treated as a production line, made to do what ever the customer wants, any of the above and without condoms. I've read about one girl who had 30 customers a day one after the other, the she lay there that long with her legs open that her pelvis became deformed. Men that use these prostitutes are helping these girls suffer. Men that buy that sort of porn are helping those girls suffer. Although if they're watching it They enjoy it and probably don't give a stuff if the girl gets a swift punch in the stomach before the camera rolls.
Sorry to those that don't like the truth. | |
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sjxx
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Joined: 4/9/2009
Msg: 59 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 9:16:29 AM | | ffs how long would you have to lie on your back shagging for your pelvis to become deformed? Not buying that for one minute sorry, thats sounds like a load of crap to me. yeah of course women are being exploited but that example sounds too far fetched to be remotely believable | |
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tm1971
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Joined: 5/22/2009
Msg: 60 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 10:39:54 AM | Josh where do you get your info from? You are talking utter crap and if there are sites like that i do not think they will be widely available to anybody and everybody, it might be the internet but they still do have their limits.
I really would like to know where you ge3t most of your info from, we all know about girls being brought over for sex and the porn industry etc but that is about 5% of the market. Seriously if you want to discuss topics such as this then please have your references available. | |
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Joe1uk
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Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 61 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 11:32:05 AM | If you want the web addresses you'll have to pm me, I'm not posting them on here, but unfortunately you won't be able to.
I get the info by opening my eyes and looking around, reading other parts of the web rather than just here. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 11:52:49 AM |
get the info by opening my eyes and looking around, reading other parts of the web rather than just here.
I'd pretty much say that is what 'most' people on here do, but often they back it up with concrete facts, links etc to prove their points.
I am not stating a fact about porn so am not providing a link to any porn site.  | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 1:01:42 PM |
i have no issues in giving my partner a prostate massage during fellatio. And I have to agree with Zeegary but I also have to state what i meant was for instance some of the porn movies extreme sexual scenarios, gentleman the ladies fake it majority of the time and they are not even that good at it.
Most of mine don't even bother to fake it!
I get your point about 'extremes', but how many guys have raised such issues?
sorry but my g spot is not up my botty
Quite, but it's a very sensitive area, sensation-wise, and it's possible to orgasm through stimulating it.........I've heard!
I really would like to know where you ge3t most of your info from, we all know about girls being brought over for sex and the porn industry etc but that is about 5% of the market. Seriously if you want to discuss topics such as this then please have your references available.
So where is your reference for that figure of 'about 5%'? | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 1:06:30 PM | cough.....stop buying the kinky stuff or make your own ......sorry that was meant for......YOU!
Look forward to seeing you on YouPorn
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Joe1uk
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Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 65 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 1:10:06 PM | and NO i havent done a porno before anyone asks lol!!
Maybe you should, you'd learn where I get those facts from. 
I won't provide links because I'd get banned for linking to porn sites, and I'm afraid you'd be shocked by what you may see there.
If I can find the pelvis site I'll link to that but unfortunately jenna had the link to it. | |
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sjxx
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Joined: 4/9/2009
Msg: 66 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 1:38:05 PM | josh i dont get you. You have REALLY strong opinions on women with tattoos and tans and whatever does not float your particular boat but you said that by not trying anal or watersports people were "closeminded". Are you being ironic with us? Or are you an idiot? Big love  | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 2:58:35 PM | The Channel 4 series recently about how teenagers view sex etc had the most interesting views on porn.................all the teenage lads thought that all women were a perfect size 10, had enormous fake boobs that always faced north and had no hair down below.................when they were shown what real women look like, their reactions were almost always of disgust.
Porn is a tool just like sex toys, dressing up etc. If both parties are ok with it then crack on............or, as others have said, it helps for a little solo action too. People can get ideas from them but I really don't think that all men or women expect their partners to be hung like Ron Jeremy or like it up the gary by an alsation like.................no idea what a female porn star would be called.......lol | |
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tm1971
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Joined: 5/22/2009
Msg: 68 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 5:47:20 PM | Msg 69 you are right I can't email you because i blocked you after asking you to stop contacting me. But lets not cause a debate about an issue such as what you mentioned as that was not part of the topic.
Zeegary, I do not have a reference but will see if i can find you one, but do know that statistically it is a very small percentage and predominantly from Eastern Europe. But mainline porn is mainly provided by the US and UK and the participants are very willing participants. As stated by Ibakecakes I saw the programme she was refering too and found it shocking how teenagers viewed sex.
I do believe that when woman take the initiative during sex well in my case it is due to what I want to do and what turns me on. Men get "most" of their ideas from porn and you can not argue the fact, or from discussing it with their friends. Most people see it on porn and think mmmmm looks interesting enough shall give it a try. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 5:54:59 PM | TM any chance you could get in touch?
Advice here that I don't want to put in the forums. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 6:08:20 PM | | why shouldnt you get ideas from porn,its hardly a new thing romans grafftied porn on walls all over the world and you can bet they were not the first , | |
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Joe1uk
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Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 71 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/10/2009 8:00:45 PM | Excuse me, please don't try to make me look bad and look like a stalker thank you. YOU are blocked by me you mean after I messaged you and you sent a very rude message back. TWO messages, one from me, a reply from you. I never replied so wouldn't know if I was blocked. I'm not interested either, just keep it off the forums.
I have far far too many messages from people who do want to chat to me to be bothered arguing with people.
However, mainline porn is not the main porn on sites such porn hub. They're scenes and clips of films made by small video companies many of which are for gangs that are forcing the women to do it.
you want to carry on thinking most porn watched these days is UK/US main stream bought on dvd's then good on ya . I know most porn is watched on line.
I don't wish to discuss the topic with you any more now thanks.
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Joe1uk
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Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 72 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 4:59:44 AM | I've been told my post suggests all women are gagging for it porn style, rough etc and that everyone should try stuff even if they don't really want to. That I obviously watch this kind of stufff or I wouldn't know about it. That they don't know how much has rubbed off onto me and how much I'd try to push onto a partner even if they didn't want to.
Just because I know about it doesn't mean I've tried all of it or any of it for that matter, although I have tried some. It doesn't mean I'm into all of it or any of it. I've never engaged in rough and I'm saying that unless the girl consents then she certainly shouldnt have to and shouldn't be forced. That is the whole point of the thread line of I've taken so to suggest I'd try to push rough onto anyone is quite a bizarre statement really.
I watch very little of it. I've read up on it far more than watching it. I've not time to sit here watching hours and hours of someone else getting off, I'm too busy with my hectic social life. 4 nights in out of about 25 so far, and why not whilst I'm singleish. Sexology is the study of sexuality, I find it interesting as to what makes people tick. That is why I know so much. How much I've done is my business but it certainly isn't everything I've mentioned.
Anyone girl or guy shouldn't engage in any sexual act unless they want to. No means no, however I do think they should keep an open mind on things and possibly try it before they say they don't like it like most things in life. I do realise though that some people, like me have their complete no nos and that there are things that they would never even contemplate trying.
Forcing someone to do something they don't wont to do is wrong and comes back to the point I'm making in this thread about mafia porn.
I'm not a person that frequents prostitutes either. I haven't the time, haven't the need.
People really should only read what they read and not between the lines.
I'm just an average joe despite my knowledge.
Hope that clears any confusion up | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 5:28:49 AM |
This is getting good!
*pulls up a chair*
Hobnob anyone?
I would do but im busy today, i have only been out one day of the last 365 and i am too busy and popular to sit here. | |
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