Pud78
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Joined: 4/23/2009
Msg: 96 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 10:58:25 AM | There is an acceptable side to pornography and prostitution and as much as some don't like them or the fact they give a false and potentially damaging view of sex and women they are here to stay. It could be argued that without them that society would be worse off though equally that can easily counter argued.
There is though always a darker and more sinister side where money is involved and that is the side that Josh is highlighting. The majority though of men that watch porn would watch the mainstream pornography that is freely available and with willing participants and not the human trafficked sex slaves that are forced into it and who have been hooked on drugs. That type of porn is rare and not easily accessible even on the web as there are police task forces stopping the making and distribution of it. The gangsters involved in it don't want it on the net either as they want it controlled and not to draw attention to their operations, the men would also not want to be filmed in these brothels.
Men are to blame as if they had more morals they would not visit these types of brothels and there would be no need for the beatings, en slavery, drug pushing rape and torture of these poor women, supply and demand.
This type of pornography in the main has no baring of the views of men towards women as most men haven't been exposed to it or even want to be. Most men would be appalled and sick at the thought of supporting or enabling sex trafficking. | |
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Joe1uk
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Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 97 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 11:03:59 AM | what a crock, most of the porn vids and clips on pornhub, you porn and red tube are dodgy vids made by amateurs and certainly not by mainstream, many of which are obviously made using women that are either so hooked on their bf that they do it and get slapped about or are slaves forced to perform.
I'm not blaming anyone as I've no proof really that us not watching it will cause it to stop. But controlling the internet more tightly would certainly help. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 11:13:40 AM | | I find this thread quite interesting. When I did adult texting I would say 90 per cent of men wanted anal, 50 percent had the most weird fetishes ranging from wearing nappies to being run over by 4x4s. It was quite an education for me. We would get the odd woman texting in but the majority were men wanting to talk dirty and act out their fantasies. Some men definitely showed a very sinister side and there were certain things that we werent allowed to talk about e.g. incest, paedophilia, bestiality etc. Lots of men wanted to talk about these things. It did make we wonder what some of them were capable of. Testosterone has a lot to answer for! | |
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Pud78
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Joined: 4/23/2009
Msg: 99 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 11:14:07 AM | Or are voyeuristic and an exhibitionist? There are plenty of smaller porn companies who deal with the amateur market as a lot of men and women want it more natural and amateur looking and the actors and actresses are still willing and getting paid.
You are confusing to very different markets and level of professionalism.
The brothels with 50/60 men going through a day to one woman is not the pron you see on pornhub, the worst I would imagine is desperate women paid a pittance to appear because of a drug habit. | |
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tm1971
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Joined: 5/22/2009
Msg: 100 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 11:20:45 AM | Can I please state that the porn i mentioned was the mainstream being produced by the US and UK. For instance Seymore Butts made anal popular, that man has a lot to explain! lol As stated originally my question was do women feel that their partners want to experiment with what they see in porn movies for instance fisting, anal, gagging, watersports etc...
And we are not discussing prostitution we are discussing pronography! Leave it up to Josh to totally destroy a thread! Yes there is a darker side to it but that is not what this threads intentions were, if I wanted to raise the subject of forced pornography Josh I would have made it the heading.
Oh and as for youporn its contents are 50/50 mainstream and amateur and i dont know what you put in your search engine but i have never seen anything that you describe. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 11:27:56 AM | | Personally I find the whole Idea of watersports and fisting pretty disgusting. We have toilets for a reason you know. If you want to put stuff on your partner stick with whipped cream and strawberries or chocolate sauce. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 11:32:22 AM | | Well I have to admit my ignorance by saying that half of this stuff is new to me. I haven't a clue what you're on about with Fisting, gagging although I can hazard a guess there and watersports, well where they come into sex I don't know. | |
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tm1971
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Joined: 5/22/2009
Msg: 103 | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 11:48:57 AM | {I find the whole Idea of watersports and fisting pretty disgusting. We have toilets for a reason you know. If you want to put stuff on your partner stick with whipped cream and strawberries or chocolate sauce.}
Having just rectified my ignorance and looked them up, I have to agree with Toby, yuck. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 12:00:14 PM | Some men are just stupidly insecure and go OTT about sex from being heavily influenced by porn videos and bragging about "sexual conquests" to one another, thus thinking all women like to be done up the poo chucker and giving a woman a facial load of sex wee. (Is that why I see so many women wearing eye-patches covering one eye nowadays?)
I like sex the traditional way, 1 minute and 5 seconds of stiff horizontial press ups then rolling over and falling asleep with a peck on the cheek.  I must go and count my stamps now...
(Hopefully I might get a message asking me for a shag). | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 12:27:13 PM |  i can't believe this is still going
you checked francesca out then joe,cracker isn't she
right i didn't make the bullshit comment clear,i was talking about 80% of the stuff your writing bullshit not forcing girls into prostitution,find it funny that after reading the op that you get on to talking about fcuking sex with dogs
i mean come on,what your going on about makes up,i don't know maybe 10/15% of the global sex industry,no doubt somebody will prove me wrong but i think earlier when looking for figures,of the top of my head coz i can't be ars*d looking again...it's worth 50 odd billion,hollywood alone makes 150 million from it
so for every one forced there's 100 doing it as a job....
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 2:03:11 PM | | What can be blamed on porn? nothing, it is what it is. It's a legitimate career choice for both men and women. Certainly can't be blamed for the collapse of a relationship, there must have been serious problems in that department for some time. I guess we all need someone or something to blame. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 2:18:16 PM |
Continuing on from the sex toy thread.
Ladies do you think that porn has a lot to blame for what men assume we enjoy in the sex department?
Gentleman do you realise that even though they are not very good actors that that is still exactly what they are, acting out a part and not exactly enjoying having 2 dildo's rammed up any of their available orifices. Do men take too much from porn and assume that that is exactly what we want?
The only thing i blame on porn are the blisters on my palm... could i sue? | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 2:51:51 PM | Porn's all good for a laugh, a bit of fun and to fill a void for some when taking themselves in hand.
I think that is all good. It's when people start acting like they are in a porno with all the amateur dramatics and shite that it starts to get a bit boring.
I've only ever considered porn as a bit of fun, never as an instruction manual - some do use it as such and it's like shagging someone who is going through a set routine in their head. What really pees me off is when they count you in, 4, 3, 2, 1 and cue cum on your arse... I find that really off putting... | |
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Posted: 7/11/2009 2:54:13 PM |
What really pees me off is when they count you in, 4, 3, 2, 1 and cue cum on your arse
On or in? | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 3:22:06 PM | ^^^ this is porn we're talking - so it has to be on - a visual feast for the viewers and all that.
Ejaculations this short may not be smeared into buttocks however pleasurable and Vitamin E rich. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/11/2009 4:43:04 PM | I think we have to accept that everyone is different.
A good sexual relationship is where both parties get what they want from it.
Having been with quite a few women in my time I can vouch that women are very different from each other.
I have been with the frigid to the loosest of women. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:22:13 AM | {so for every one forced there's 100 doing it as a job....}
Including himself if you believe what he says, lol. Funny how one minute he's talking about sex being dirty and should only be done in monagamous matrimony and the next he's claiming to be a porn star. | |
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Joe1uk
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Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 114 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:38:49 AM |
Can I please state that the porn i mentioned was the mainstream being produced by the US and UK. For instance Seymore Butts made anal popular, that man has a lot to explain! lol As stated originally my question was do women feel that their partners want to experiment with what they see in porn movies for instance fisting, anal, gagging, watersports etc...
And we are not discussing prostitution we are discussing pronography! Leave it up to Josh to totally destroy a thread! Yes there is a darker side to it but that is not what this threads intentions were, if I wanted to raise the subject of forced pornography Josh I would have made it the heading.
Oh and as for youporn its contents are 50/50 mainstream and amateur and i dont know what you put in your search engine but i have never seen anything that you describe.
youporn is not 50 mainstream, and of those that are main stream most are added illegally, why the hell would seymore and rocco put their vids on there that they're selling on their own sites. majority is forced or done in desperation for money by small video companies, a few are amatuer a lot are illegally added mainstream.
Prostitution is relevant because the girls making the porn that the majority of us watch are also prostituting themselves or being forced to. The days of mainstream vids being what the majority watch are long gone. Its sites like you porn that most men watch. Free sex films.
The question was how much do we blame on porn. My point is that rough sex is and quite rightly so because an increasing amount of porn films show it because an increasing amount of porn films are made using women that have no say.
I've made my point, You've all made yours that you disagree, feel free to discuss other aspects now. Agree to disagree. | |
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Pud78
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Joined: 4/23/2009
Msg: 116 | |
| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/12/2009 6:18:22 AM | How much do we blame on violent films / video games?
How much do we blame on the fashion industry?
How much do we blame on the media?
We have so many influences on our lives and different messages from the mass media and we can blame any negative stereotype, views or actions on it but at some point we have to take responsibility for own views and morals.
If a man and woman can't discuss sex as adults and establish the reality of sex to some pornography induced vision maybe they just shouldn't be having sex and can only blame themselves! | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/12/2009 6:23:23 AM | Is anyone else getting aroused by some of the comments on this thread?
We have so many influences on our lives and different messages from the mass media and we can blame any negative stereotype, views or actions on it but at some point we have to take responsibility for own views and morals.
Absolutely!
Our body may respond to outside influences, but itis up to the individual to ensure that any subsequent actions are 'appropriate' to the situation. | |
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| How much do we blame on porn?
Posted: 7/12/2009 6:28:12 AM | msg 120 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^  
was just going to say the same thing -
maybe for some of us blokes there's no other option but porn -in whatever format - to get our rocks off to. In recent years though with the deluge of internet porn, going further and further down the road of taboo, those who need bigger, darker and dirtier thrills ( due to being numbed by overuse ) will undoubtably be psychologically affected.
A bloke I was in the forces with was one such. He became so desensitised to normal coupledom sexual relationships simply due to watching inordinate amounts of porn material, that he couldn't form a proper relationship after a few years. His expectations and turn on triggers were so off the scale that no average woman could satisfy him or properly turn him on. | |
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