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Posted: 7/9/2009 4:53:10 AM | | Yes i do belive certain people are better. But cannot be measured in wealth, but morals and the will to help others. You only have to go round many an estate pubs to see this action. Theres been many a single mother whose brought up there kid with manners and educated them well, but gets called arrogant or a snob because of it. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 4:56:47 AM |
As for people on here thinking they they are better than others
Actually, I was every bit as interested in the midnset of the people CLAIMING that someone else was being 'superior'
Because I beleive it shows massive insecurity to even think it. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 4:59:49 AM |
Actually, I was every bit as interested in the midnset of the people CLAIMING that someone else was being 'superior'
Because I beleive it shows massive insecurity to even think it.
Yes good point, I have often seen, in the midst of a wrangle on here, one person or another claiming that their opponent thinks they are better than others. While this maybe true of some, it hasn't escaped my notice that often the people who are claiming it are the most arrogant ones. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:13:26 AM | People don't always need to work to become wealthy, they can inherit it, or win money.
I'm not sure what being active in the community means, do you mean working with community groups, or giving money away? Voluntary work etc. A lot of the community activists I know are people who don't work or who are retired, or people who simply want to give some of their free time working with people who need assistance.
I'm sure there are plenty of people who are wealthy who don't work and do nothing for the community, you get people who are married to others who are rich enough that they don't need to work at all.
To be honest, there are so many combinations of who might be better because they do X when the other person doesn't, I think it all boils down to if someone has the will and the nature to want to help other people, it won't matter whether they are rich or don't have a lot, they will probably find some way to do it. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:14:10 AM | | I did see a poster who was in 'discussion' with another poster and claimed that at his opponents age he had already had his own company and had done really well for himself and insinuated that his opponents views were less valid because of this. A case of one person trying to make himself look superior than his opponent purely because he had a 'better' career. | |
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*kath*
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Joined: 9/30/2008
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:16:31 AM | I dont care about hierarchy or superiority and I can be as condescending as the next person if need be,none of us are perfect but.....
I do find that people who repeatedly start their defense tactics with the word"Actually" get on my t1ts. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:18:13 AM | I did see a poster who was in 'discussion' with another poster and claimed that at his opponents age he had already had his own company and had done really well for himself and insinuated that his opponents views were less valid because of this. A case of one person trying to make himself look superior than his opponent purely because he had a 'better' career.
Perhaps that poster was merely telling the other poster how vastly underqualified they were to make assumptions about the person's competence. Rather than a 'show of superiority' in the 'status' sense it could easily have been meant as 'who the fu*k are you????'
Paricularly as his point had been addressed in an earlier post.
P.S.
there is also a difference between being 'socially' superior and 'professionally' superior.
Without one shadow of a doubt, in that particular case I was by far professionally superior. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:30:17 AM |
Without one shadow of a doubt, in that particular case I was by far professionally superior.
Does that not come with its own set of qualifiers though?? Is builder really inferior to a Doctor by profession?
Is a hairdresser inferior to a solicitor??
Is a construction engineer superior to a geneticist?? ( be very careful how you answer that one!! )
Again we are down to perception, perception of ones profession being 'better' than another, and the expectation that others will percieve the same.
I can understand and teach the most complex biochemical processes that go on in the human body, but I am decidedly crap at DIY. I cannot put up shelves properly or build flat pack furniture. Does that make a builder more or less superior than me?? (rhet) | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:46:00 AM |
I can understand and teach the most complex biochemical processes that go on in the human body, but I am decidedly crap at DIY.
I can build apartment blocks, supermarkets and have built an entire retail park.
And I understand Engineering, Biology to a lesser extent and even some basic chemistry.
Can't play guitar though.
Not so as you'd want to listen anyway.
I personally don't see a heirarchy of professions.........and do not give any more credit to a doctor than I would a chartered engineer.
I DO think people within professions vary wildly though. Some construction companies are very professional, others are a shower. Some doctors are interesting and informative, some I've spoken to are outright idiots.
What I find attractive in a person is enthusiasm and passion for whatever they do, be it for a living or as a hobby. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:50:07 AM | I would say in society superiority means one in authority, a leader or a person that others look up to. From a biological perspective superiority could mean a human being with extra mental and phsyical abilities.
A few biological examples would be: athlete, london taxi driver, musician, mensa member.
All of these people (bar the athelete) have extrodinary brain function which is clearly visible if you were to take a brain scan. For those wondering why I listed taxi driver, London taxi drivers who learn the knowledge have a highly developed hippocampus and posess memory skills that are generally regarded as superior.
Some choose to develop their bodies beyond the norm, for example body builders, athletes, sport players. You only have to look at a pro body builder to realise this individual possesses vastly superior strength to most people.
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:59:16 AM | | No-one is better than yourself unless they wanna 5hag your brains out if you say they are! | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 6:01:42 AM | I believe that perceptions of superiority are purely subjective...
It depends on one's own values as to what whom one would deem to be a superior to oneself...
Or inferior for that matter...
Those who believe themselves to be superior to others are often nothing more than self justifying nobodies... A poster comments that they believe those who accuse others of superiority are merely showing themselves to have feelings of inferiority. In actuality that is probably less likely to be the case than in those who are the professors of superiority, to have to bump oneself up in front of practical strangers by listing ones successes in direct comparison to anothers assumed failings, smacks of a desperate need to be worshipped and adored... For the 'inferior' combatant to give up the fight, tug his forelock and kowtow to an obviously superior foe...
Superiority is not pleasant.. A slice of humble pie does not go amiss occasionally... | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 6:02:53 AM |
I personally don't see a heirarchy of professions.........and do not give any more credit to a doctor than I would a chartered engineer.
But does that not contradict what you said in your previous post?
P.S.
there is also a difference between being 'socially' superior and 'professionally' superior.
Without one shadow of a doubt, in that particular case I was by far professionally superior.
Or am I missing your point???
built an entire retail park.
And I bet there were still not enough ladies loos!!
I have an admiration for people who can do things that I would like to be able to do, builders are just one of them. Does that make them superior to me? Nope.
What I find attractive in a person is enthusiasm and passion for whatever they do, be it for a living or as a hobby.
I will quote that next time I am in mid-flow and my friends glaze over... | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 6:15:18 AM |
But does that not contradict what you said in your previous post?
No. I said I do not see a heirarchy OF professions, not IN professions, where it definitely does exist.
Or am I missing your point???
Yes, you were. See above.
And I bet there were still not enough ladies loos!!
There were exactly the number shown on the plans. 'Enough' being a purely subjective term, there were 'enough' to satisfy planning and building control requirements :)
A slice of humble pie does not go amiss occasionally...
May I ask why?
It reminds me of that old bible saying 'the meek will inherit the earth'
No they bloody won't. But hey, if believing this keeps them smiling while they're being downtrodden I'm all for it. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 6:24:59 AM |
May I ask why?
It reminds me of that old bible saying 'the meek will inherit the earth'
No they bloody won't. But hey, if believing this keeps them smiling while they're being downtrodden I'm all for it.
There is a huge difference between being modest and being meek...
Modesty is a very attractive trait.. No one is interested in past successes, current achievements, whatsoever.. Unless you are discussing something whereby your 'superior' achievements will have a direct and immediate positive effect, then don't bother... You'd have me yawning into my first course soup.. I personally couldn't give a flying fruit-bat if someone runs a multi million pound corporation or cleans the bloody toilets at the same place, so long as they are doing the best they possibly can... The toilet cleaner might be doing a damned site better job of his duties than his company director... Sparkling bogs for a company who's books are filled with streamers of red figures...
There are many people on this forum with a far superior intellect than mine, fortunately they have no need to keep shoving this fact down my throat and let their posts be their proof... They are the ones I hold in high esteem, not those who brag constantly...
As an aside.. You enjoy keeping the meek downtrodden? | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 6:35:33 AM |
No. I said I do not see a heirarchy OF professions, not IN professions, where it definitely does exist.
Ah, I am with you now.
There were exactly the number shown on the plans. 'Enough' being a purely subjective term, there were 'enough' to satisfy planning and building control requirements :)
But not enought o satisfy the bladder requirements of thousands of women... I think we need a thread...why civil engineers ignore the lavatory needs of women
Humble pie only really works fo folk if it doesn't give them indigestion...
However keeping a perspective of ones own importance, especially on a forum is really doesn't go amiss.. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 6:39:12 AM | As an aside.. You enjoy keeping the meek downtrodden?
I don't keep anyone downtrodden.
Ok, let me try to explain.
You have 'society'
In society, people live their lives and pay their taxes and generally amble through without a thought.
Many complain of their lot in life while doing little to better it.
Some, a few, are happy. I met a labourer once and for some reason had to go to his house, he wasn't just 'a' labourer, he was the archetypal labourer. He was, in the nicest possible way, as dull as dishwater in the smarts department. But a nicer chap you could never hope to meet. I liked him a lot. I liked him because when he got home you could see how happy his wife and kids were to see him, and how much he loved them. He was always happy and a real ray of sunshine. He made practically no money, his kids were slightly shabily dressed, but you knew it didn't matter.
I liked him mostly though not because he 'accepted his lot' I liked him because He was HAPPY with it.
He was not a whinger.
The whingers annoy the hell out of me. Why haven't I got this? it's my right that............and always it's someone elses fault.
Well, people like that are the ones who make MY life possible.
for instance the stock market.
People buy into the stock market on the up hoping to make an easy fortune. Fear of missing out on profit makes them stay in even though all reason says a big fall has to come. When the fall comes, they sell at a loss.
These are 'the meek'
I don't really care one way or the other about the meek. They make their life choices, I make observations and decisions...........and I benefit from it.
If everyone were the same I might have to take my turn on the shovel again, so the meek, in my opinion are quite useful.
And yes, I really do think this way.
However keeping a perspective of ones own importance, especially on a forum is really doesn't go amiss..
I have no interest in 'importance'
For a start, there are very few people who can honestly claim to be 'the most important person around'
Anyone so competetive as to need to be 'important' would never really be happy unless they were the MOST important, and there is always someone more 'important' than you! | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 7:06:59 AM |
Perhaps that poster was merely telling the other poster how vastly underqualified they were to make assumptions about the person's competence. Rather than a 'show of superiority' in the 'status' sense it could easily have been meant as 'who the fu*k are you????'
I questioned your competence as what you had written didn't meat the requirements of the health and safety act, what became clear in my mind was that yes you were competent though struggled to get your point across and actually wrote before you tried to be all superior was..
I don't doubt your knowledge, passion, or qualifications and your clearly working in a very competitive industry at the moment it just it comes across to me at least that mistakes shouldn't be punishable, accidents happen and should just be accepted and the Health and safety act is something to be placated rather than applied.
I will point out that no where did you cite an inaccuracy or an area of the law that I was lacking in the thread so may knowledge may not be as good as yours but wholly adequate. Who the f*ck am I? I am me and if you need to ask that I would suggest I am someone that is rattling your cage.
there is also a difference between being 'socially' superior and 'professionally' superior.
Without one shadow of a doubt, in that particular case I was by far professionally superior.
Have you got my CV there? How can you claim that you are so far professionally adept than me? Your loadsa money of the fast show...I am considerably richer than you! | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 7:27:10 AM | I questioned your competence as what you had written didn't meat the requirements of the health and safety act, what became clear in my mind was that yes you were competent though struggled to get your point across and actually wrote before you tried to be all superior was..
If I might correct your memory, you in fact informed me I was in the wrong not reporting the incident, when I had clearly stated in a previous post that I HAD reported it as it was a legal requirement.
Who the f*ck am I? I am me and if you need to ask that I would suggest I am someone that is rattling your cage.
You might wish that were the case. In fact, you were just another poster jumping on a bandwagon, attempting to 'put me in my place. IF you had been correct and I had not reported an incident and you had kindly highlighted my error to me, I'd probably have thanked you for it.
Your loadsa money of the fast show...I am considerably richer than you
I am not sure what this means............but if by this you are implying I am 'bigging myself up' in some way, I had this accusation once before. The thing is, I was at the time dating someone from POF who was quite prolific on the forums and who knew the ins and outs of me, we both found it quite hilarious.
Have you got my CV there? How can you claim that you are so far professionally adept than me?
From your style of typing. Ok, I'll admit there's an outside chance I'm wrong here. I'd happily place bets that I'm not wrong though. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 7:48:58 AM | Yawn.
Some people have to believe in their own superiority in order to get them through the day.
It doesn't mean that they are, in reality, better than anyone else.
Personally, I believe that we all have equal worth. I will not judge someone as greater or lesser than me simply because they are not. There are people that have more than me and people that have less. It doesn't make them a better (or lesser) person.
I believe that we all contribute to society in our own ways. The negative input of one can inspire the positive input of another.
Just as the sanctimonious, know-it-all, drivel in one post can inspire a perceptive and insightful reply in another. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 8:17:35 AM |
The whingers annoy the hell out of me. Why haven't I got this? it's my right that............and always it's someone elses fault
That is naturally due to personqlity type, the jey being the internal or external locus of control. Hula Moo is better qualified to comment on this than I, but people with an external locus of control blame everything and everyone for their actions. But the self perception of where ones own locus is is where is really becomes interesting, many people will claim to take responsibility for their own actions, but when caught up in a dispute, whether on here or in real life they are very quick to blame the other person for provoking them of making them act a certain way. They blame society, terrorism, immigration, single mothers, youth culture, or any other sterotypes and ostracized section of society for all the ills that befall their life.
I have no interest in 'importance'
For a start, there are very few people who can honestly claim to be 'the most important person around'
Anyone so competetive as to need to be 'important' would never really be happy unless they were the MOST important, and there is always someone more 'important' than you!
I respectfully ask, if you have no interest in importance, then why start this thread? | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 9:30:23 AM |
So my question is, ARE some people better than others?
Yes.
However, it depends on what criteria is being used.
A homeless person would be far 'better' at surviving on the streets than someone who has always maintained a roof over their head, but the latter is 'better' at ensuring they maintain a roof over their head.
As for 'worth' to society, again, it depends on the criteria. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 9:38:10 AM |
I respectfully ask, if you have no interest in importance, then why start this thread?
Well the answer lies at least partly within your post:
That is naturally due to personqlity type, the jey being the internal or external locus of control. Hula Moo is better qualified to comment on this than I, but people with an external locus of control blame everything and everyone for their actions. But the self perception of where ones own locus is is where is really becomes interesting, many people will claim to take responsibility for their own actions, but when caught up in a dispute, whether on here or in real life they are very quick to blame the other person for provoking them of making them act a certain way. They blame society, terrorism, immigration, single mothers, youth culture, or any other sterotypes and ostracized section of society for all the ills that befall their life.
The interest is not in the importance of the person, but in the mechanism that leads to people feeling LESS important. I.E. why do some people continually complain that because someone for instance has a strong opinion about something, and the self confidence to not be worried by people's opinion of said opinions........they feel as though that person is making themselves 'more important'
Because it really honestly never occurs to me that anyone is better than me. There are people who know more on a given subject, there are people with more money, but no one is me, only I am.
Incidentally:
That is naturally due to personqlity type, the jey being the internal or external locus of control. Hula Moo is better qualified to comment on this than I, but people with an external locus of control blame everything and everyone for their actions. But the self perception of where ones own locus is is where is really becomes interesting, many people will claim to take responsibility for their own actions, but when caught up in a dispute, whether on here or in real life they are very quick to blame the other person for provoking them of making them act a certain way. They blame society, terrorism, immigration, single mothers, youth culture, or any other sterotypes and ostracized section of society for all the ills that befall their life.
I fail to see the difference.
Whingers are whingers, whether it's before or after the fact. | |
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Joe1uk
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Joined: 6/10/2009
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Posted: 7/9/2009 4:36:00 PM | I see whingers whinging a forum about whingers whinging on a forum.
Yes you look at what you're doing
I am far superior to all of you because I haven't engaged in this rather silly battle of quote boxes which use totally irrelevant examples to try to score points.
I'm not whinging though cos its quite amusing to watch. | |
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