| Superiority.
Posted: 7/11/2009 4:30:14 AM | | All together now "When I rule the world........................." | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/11/2009 2:32:00 PM | I like the quote:
When one regards another as superior he has just made himself inferior
I think a lot of it is to do with the person doing the regarding and casting judgement on others. I have a colleague who is very wealthy (due to other ventures in addition to his role as a doctor with a national leadership role etc) he is also very well spoken (although he comes from just next to a local council estate and attended the local council est comprehensive), he is also a senior executive in a number of local organisations. One day he said to me "why doesn't anyone speak to me in this building? I feel like an alien sometimes." I had heard that people felt that he was far too superior and the often misappropriated "stuck up".
I told him that people thought he was 'stuck up' and that they were probably suffering from a degree of white coat syndrome and because of his professional status, money, the way he talks, the way he dresses, the car he drives etc, they assume (incorrectly) that he feels he is better than they are and therefore too lofty for them to speak to. I suggested he made more of an effort when coming into the building and rather than just smiling at people and saying "hi" that he stopped and initiated conversation. He said he felt a bit uncomfortable doing this as people seemed to scurry off when he approached but he'd give it a go and persevere. He did and at first people were wary of him but after a couple of weeks he said that people had started to chat to him in the corridors instead of scurrying off when he approached. They found out that he's a lovely bloke who is very down to earth and quite handy to know too. In this scenario it was others regarding him as superior and making themselves thereby feel inferior that was coming into play - the guy did nothing to suggest that he felt he was superior or better than anyone.
Not sure how you judge someone's feeling of self importance or superiority on here, as we have only a very one (at best two) dimensional picture and who knows how much of that is real? Also as we know we lose so much in communication by only having the written word to go by so sometimes a joke can be misconstrued, a tongue in cheek remark can be taken seriously and oh... let's not forget the agendas.
Personally I only care about the way my children and my partner perceive me if I'm honest. I couldn't care less about what anyone else thinks of me in terms of my personal attributes. That's not being superior, that's being realistic. | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/11/2009 9:27:48 PM | I've almost given up the will to live after reading this thread.
My youngest son is 13 and displays more maturity than the main players on this thread. Its farcical in the extreme and tedious to read .
Who won by the way?
I wonder why these people are single?  Goodness me.
I wouldn't like to be trapped in a lift with them, that's all I can say.
Give your heads a wobble children. | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 1:55:16 AM |
I've almost given up the will to live after reading this thread.
And yet you struggled on to the end!
I would not have. If I feel something is silly, I give it a wide berth. | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 2:00:39 AM |
If I feel something is silly, I give it a wide berth.
Unless, of course it's a custard pie | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 2:05:38 AM |
Unless, of course it's a custard pie
There is nothing silly about a well baked custard pie!!! | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 2:23:00 AM | B.J Slater.
And yet you struggled on to the end!
I know..... Are you impressed Sir? I'm a bit of a soldier am I not?
I would not have
Well... your not me and I'm not you.
If I feel something is silly, I give it a wide berth
Again that's where we differ. I seem to be drawn to the ridiculous and farcial.
We are both obviously superior specimens though , when compared to the general riff raff that inhabit these murky waters. So in that respect we are of the same ilk. Far superior to these cloth eared peasants. If I may say so myself .
post edit.
I have no idea how to clean my toilet or how to scan a packet of shitake mushrooms!
These cloth eared peasants can be quite skilled in certain areas you know .
Good point actually. Its looking like you could be the brains of the operation . I'll just be the eye candy.
pantsonfire. mssg 183.
Oh the irony...
LMFAO.... :roll:
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 2:25:54 AM |
I've almost given up the will to live after reading this thread. And yet you struggled on to the end! I would not have. If I feel something is silly, I give it a wide berth.
Oh the irony.... | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 2:27:31 AM | Far superior to these cloth eared peasants. If I may say so myself .
That's a bit harsh, it's not even correct!!!
I have no idea how to clean my toilet or how to scan a packet of shitake mushrooms!
These cloth eared peasants can be quite skilled in certain areas you know.
Oh the irony....
You may think so, but you're missing the high amusement value it's given me. | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 2:32:05 AM |
You may think so, but you're missing the high amusement value it's given me.
It's been laugh a minute that's for sure. | |
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*kath*
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Joined: 9/30/2008
Msg: 186 | |
| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 2:35:21 AM | | Has Alpha male been established yet? | |
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Posted: 7/12/2009 2:42:09 AM | Has Alpha male been established yet?
Oooooh, now there's a subject!!!!
I don't do alpha male. You can be alpha in some scenarios and not in others, and it's all pretty pointless anyway.
Since we live in groups which are often well differentiated, most men who see themselves as alpha have at least one area of their life where they are not.
You have work, home, social and often these are distinc groups. Not like apes where one establishes control and stays with them all the time.
That doesn't even account for being taken out of your comfort zone. So a man who is alpha in every way in his life who say gets sent to prison might find that he is definitely NOT alpha in that situation.
So hardly worth arguing about really, is it?
I just go through life doing what I want to do. The alpha male in a group of one. Because the only person I want to control is me.
Edit.
It got me thinking about work and how I behave there.
I behave in the manner I need to behave in depending on the person I'm deaing with.
Some respond to authority, so with them I'm reasonably stern.
Some respond to professionalism, so with them I am professional.
Some reaspond to the friendly approach, and with those people I am friendly, and not above asking them to do something for me 'as a favour' even though in fact, they're being paid to do it. | |
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*kath*
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Joined: 9/30/2008
Msg: 188 | |
| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 2:55:24 AM |
I just go through life doing what I want to do. The alpha male in a group of one. Because the only person I want to control is me.
Why would you want to control yourself?
If somebody had enough self confidence in themselves and their abilities to interact with others there would be no need for control.
JMO. | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:03:02 AM |
If somebody had enough self confidence in themselves and their abilities to interact with others there would be no need for control.
I think you've mistaken the statement.
What has self confidence to do with wanting control over your own life?
My self confidence has never been in question except on here because I come across as strong willed and I'm often accused of 'overcompensating' for something. But that's because you're reading my typing and my opinions on given subject, written with no thought for anyone's feelings.
I read a passage in a book once, from The Cruel Sea. I really identified with it.
There was a man who had been captain of a ship and he was made a commander of a group, and he commented that when he had been captain there had been time for names and personalities. when he wanted a boat in the water, he'd say 'take Tonbridge, Wells and Lake, and form a party' etc. Now when he wanted aboat in the water, he just wanted a boat in the water and often didn't know the names.
Lol, it does seem to me that you read into my replies what you would prefer to be the truth......without actually knowing me at all.
I too judge people on here all the time. The only difference is, I am fully aware that I could well be wrong in my opinions about any given person, because I can't really SEE that person. | |
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Posted: 7/12/2009 3:05:10 AM | Msg 188 we all surely exercise self control most of the time don't we? Otherwise the world would be lawless and full of people doing just what they liked. If we were all impulse driven all of the time what state would society be in? Just setting the alarm and getting the kids up for school when we really would rather be out partying all night and sleeping in is exercising self control.
I agree with TJ the only person I feel I should control and whom I wish to control is myself, I can influence and guide my children but don't wish to control them. I can encourage and motivate my colleagues and staff at work, I don't wish to control them. I can support and advise my family and friends when they ask or need me to, but I don't wish to control them.
Perhaps what makes some people better adjusted citizens than others is their ability to know their place in any given situation whether that be at the helm or amongst the foot soldiers and to be comfortable enough with their place and their abilities to adapt themselves as necessary. Leadership and subordinance roles are more of a continuum and not rigid and inflexible. As TJ said, a leader in one situation may not be a leader in another.
Superiority in my opinion is something perceived by those who feel themselves to be inferior in the main. However there are those rare individuals who just can't help but feel they are better than everyone else and for whom knowing their limitations and their place and their underestimation of others is something of an affliction. | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:10:54 AM |
It got me thinking about work and how I behave there.
I behave in the manner I need to behave in depending on the person I'm deaing with.
Some respond to authority, so with them I'm reasonably stern.
Some respond to professionalism, so with them I am professional.
Some reaspond to the friendly approach, and with those people I am friendly, and not above asking them to do something for me 'as a favour' even though in fact, they're being paid to do it .
What you describe ^^^^^^ is good man management skills. Knowing how to get the best from each individual . For instance : Some people respond to gentle encouragement and a comforting arm around the shoulder . Whereas another person responds positively to kick up the ar*se every so often.
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Mssg 193.
That's all very interesting Mr Slater. But keep your beady eyes off Kath. I spotted her first.
Besides which my Granny is the hardest woman in Scotland. I won't think twice about unleashing her on you.
johnny gives his most evil stare before striding of the page
Kath. Mssg 194
Now shut up and kiss me
johnny spits his tea all over his string vest
Well..... I think its best you disregard my previous comment after that. You can have her.
toddles off... tail between legs 
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*kath*
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Msg: 192 | |
| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:11:30 AM |
Lol, it does seem to me that you read into my replies what you would prefer to be the truth......without actually knowing me at all.
No I can only read and respond to what you have written.
I must admit that when I had got through reading the 5 pages of battle of the egos,it did strike me as two people who desperately wanted to prove something,which led me to think there may be self confidence issues.Anyone confident in themselves would not have bothered responding after the first few posts as it was just going round in circles..
Like I said it's just my opinion..worthless to most even myself at times
Msg 188 we all surely exercise self control most of the time don't we?
Of course we do,usually without realising it,no stopping to think abut it etc. | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:23:49 AM | I must admit that when I had got through reading the 5 pages of battle of the egos
Well, firstly, it wasn't a 'battle' Itt wasn't even a battle of wits. Everything I posted was purely off the cuff and took little out of me.
,it did strike me as two people who desperately wanted to prove something,which led me to think there may be self confidence issues
Ok, but my motivations for it were possibly different to what you might think. I happen to think the other poster is the worst kind of bully, and I dislike that behaviour and decided I'd give him someoen who at his level or above to bully.
{quote].Anyone confident in themselves would not have bothered responding after the first few posts as it was just going round in circles..
I disagre. it took nothing from me.
Regarding confidence.......I REALLY want to be in a relationship at the moment, and I have 'offers on the table' But I'd rather be single than in a relationship with someone for the sake of it.
At work, I have always been frreelance, and even when recently promoted and asked to take a permanent position, I negotiated remaining freelance which is HIGHLY unusual and makes people suspicious, because usually, people WANT to be taken on permanent for the security.
I do not need the security because I am 100% confident that I will always keep my job based purely on my performance rather than on it being easier to keep me than get rid of me.
I also know my limits. Mentally and physically. I know what I want in life and how to get it without screwing anyone else to achieve it.
With one exception, I'm on very good terms with all of my exes, though some I dont really communicate with. In fact I gave advice to one recently on her match.com profile.
I don't do jealousy really..........lol so unconfident? not really.
Now you're possibly thinking I'm claiming perfection.
And that is a seperate subject, but no, I don't claim that either. I've been lucky enough in life to have two partners who were little short of amazing, and my selfishness was the cause of the demise both times. So we all have our weaknesses.
Of course we do,usually without realising it,no stopping to think abut it etc.
But that's YOU. There is almost literally nothing I do not think about. You might see this as strange, to me, it isnt even an effort. it just happens.
my character is classic INTJ. When I stir coffee, I think of entropy. When I stir jam into semolina, I'm wondering why it isnt possible to 'un stir it'
It's just how I'm wired, just as you are wired your way. | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:28:21 AM | Could you all please be quiet now? I have a hangover  | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:29:48 AM |
Knowing how to get the best from each individual . For instance : Some people respond to gentle encouragement and a comforting arm around the shoulder . Whereas another person responds positively to kick up the ar*se every so often.
Exactly. I also think it's a nicer way to be......I LOVE seeing a person being able to extend themselves. Me and my boss at work always say that where possible, it is better to coax a person along rather than kick them along. And as a reward, you get to see a person surprising even themselves occasionally. | |
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*kath*
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Joined: 9/30/2008
Msg: 196 | |
| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:30:28 AM | When I stir jam into semolina, I'm wondering why it isnt possible to 'un stir it'
I am more likely to wonder if wallpaper can be hung with it.
Now shut up and kiss me
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Posted: 7/12/2009 3:41:43 AM | I am more likely to wonder if wallpaper can be hung with it.
I'm sure it can, but I wouldn't want to walk in a month later when your entire house smells like rancid milk!!!
Now shut up and kiss me
Where?
Besides which my Granny is the hardest woman in Scotland. I won't think twice about unleashing her on you.
I beleive you!! I dated a Glasgow girl for a while.....and she wanted to show me this trick, for the life of me cant remember what it was. But it involved clasping hands and squeezing hard. she was only about 9 stone and it took all my concentration not to wince as she cracked my knuckles! They're hard, those Scotts lasses. | |
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Joe1uk
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Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 198 | |
| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:44:15 AM |
Has Alpha male been established yet?
Yes I have, and I've better things to do than join in with battles lower down the ranks. I'll leave them to squabble between themselves whilst I service the females. 
I don't think I've ever seen such a pointless battle of egos before. I'm sure the ladies are most impressed and were entertained by the quote boxes. Far superior to laugh and walk away. | |
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| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:46:59 AM |
Far superior to laugh and walk away
Off you go, then | |
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sjxx
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Joined: 4/9/2009
Msg: 200 | |
| Superiority.
Posted: 7/12/2009 3:52:21 AM | | This thread is more soporific than nytol. I had a late night and reading all this is triggering my narcolepsy. isnt is time to stop now? The obvious answer to the question of superiority is simple. Girls are better than boys. | |
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