| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/17/2009 3:34:58 PM |
Men never grow up, didn't you see the post of the married 74 year old guy who wont divorce but is upset he sent 10 messages and hasn't met his "soul mate". For extra icing, notice that he is looking for an "intimate encounter"
Is cheating Western cultural value...? | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/17/2009 5:49:58 PM | When do guys grow up
After an extended bout and recovery from hopelessnes. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/17/2009 6:27:18 PM |
Even at 24 I've had my share of fun
Ewww...Probably by 30 you'll say you're dead already......
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/17/2009 7:14:05 PM | I have a suspicion that most men want to "have fun" because there are plenty of women willing to allow them to have it. Imagine what would happen if a guy tried to have fun with 100+ women and
Every
Single
One
Said
NO
No way, commit, be a standout guy, dazzle me. Keep me. No man is an island. If every door was shut he'd quickly adjust his efforts. No man wants to be denied. He'd discern a key.
To answer your question, men will grow up the same time that women do. So how about that? Ladies when you see a man who wants to have fun, shut the door and tell him the sandlot is closed and you're fresh out of sand. Perhaps he'd find his fun enjoying that fabled long walk on the beach? Imagine if every man and woman did that!!
Wow, such a dream. It would seriously assist in my efforts to stop wasting my time with the playground guys. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/18/2009 8:24:51 AM | ^^^^ That fantasy of virtually limitless female power for getting men down on their knees begging to be let back in the house won't work for several reasons.
First, the Woman Union can organize a strike, but there will always be those who will cross the picket lines. Because you gals are in competition with each other there's a limit to just how much "sisterhood" can accomplish. All-female groups always devolve into everyone attempting to excommunicate each other from the High Priestesshood anyway.
Second, the Man Union is savvy to the playbook of the Woman Union, so we know how it'd go, how to subvert it, and/or we'd just sit by and wait it out. We'd hire a few feminists to go out there and shout from the rooftops about how monogamy and the nuclear family is a male invention to control female sexuality, and Presto! women would rush en masse back onto the playground. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/18/2009 12:26:30 PM | | A man grows up when he realizes that sex is part of life and not all of it and no longer is willing to sarifice anything to a woman to get it,he is no longer willing to play games,manipulate,lie or be manipulated or lied to to get it,he is no longer willing to mold and shape his personality to get it...he understands that when the woman who is right for him as well as him being right for her comes along the sex will be what it was always supposed to be....a part of a good relationship that makes it an even better relationship. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/18/2009 12:33:19 PM | | You've been finding all the wrong guys, which is why you'll keep finding all the wrong guys. You probably still have one foot left in the old lifestyle where having fun is all that counts. You have to change yourself entirely to get the kind of guy who wants to keep you long term. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/18/2009 4:36:41 PM | They grow up when their balls start slapping the toilet water and they realize it is age creeping up on them. They realize that they have gotten careless with their grooming when they have ball 'fros the size of Detroit and hearing problems due to hair growing out of the ears. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/18/2009 5:30:01 PM | | I want a loveing realtionship with my best friend, who understands I'm a big kid at heart...I'll never grow up | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/18/2009 6:27:48 PM | I've reversed two paragraphs.
The poster who wrote fairly extensively of how women want to entrap men into working their butts off to provide for the woman's needs, house, kids, cars, etc was fairly right on. Women have been raised to find a "good man" to "settle down with"
That was cmdrfunk's post. I liked it. Fairly accurate.
These translate to exclusive & monogamous dating heading towards a committed RELATIONSHIP which WILL lead to marriage.
OK. The problem with this is that it is just Act I. The OPs profile says that she wants kids. The remainder of the play is that he only gets to have the marriage for as long as it takes her to have as many kids as she wants, and then the definition of "growing up" usually turns to sending a child-support check and being kept away or barely tolerated as a "visitor," not a father. That's if marriage happens at all; in about 40% of the cases, it doesn't.
Now, I would be willing to give the OP some credits as an individual.
6 out of 10 for being Jewish. That's because Jews in particular have a tradition of marrying people they simply like well enough to start the important business of raising a family, rather than for the adolescent views of True Love Forever. But only 6 out of 10 because the divorce rate amongst Jews is only slightly lower than that of the population at large.
10 out of 10 for not having children already at age 24. I do not see very many ads from women here who have not popped out one or more kids by that age. So at least she has not shown that she cannot be responsible about children.
However, minus several million intelligence points for not having a basic awareness that men, even Jewish ones, know about the divorce rates and the men-as-sperm-donors-and-walking-wallets culture that they have to live in and how it affects their attitude, and a special Moral Values of a Bacterium trophy for attributing these characteristics to the immaturity of men, because that is exactly what women who consider men but not their wallets do.
As a woman, she has a legal right to get her children and some money without having to be married to a man for more than a few years at most. If she wants that, it's her choice. A lot of women do that. However, during the several decades that this has been growing, men have been getting smarter, and they also have the right to avoid one-sided situations like this.
I'm sure that there are women who are just as frustrated about this as men are and who are willing not only enter but maintain long-term relationships. To be sure, this even happens in a substantial minority of cases. However, if they want this, they have to realize that they are in the minority and deal with it. If they don't like the fact that they are in the minority, they should get ticked off at other women, not men, because it was women, not men, who for the past few decades have been screaming about how oppressive to women marriage is, and it is women who initiate 70% of the divorces.
A woman who claims to want this and still uses the same illogic and maintains the same attitude toward men as the people who claimed that marriage was indistinguishable from prostitution, nope. Sorry. Not going to happen, at least not with any man with a modicum of intelligence who has been paying attention. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/18/2009 6:28:35 PM | It's like puberty, some men "grow up" faster than others.
There is no set date, you understand. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/18/2009 8:13:55 PM | Everyone grows up at a different time. It is entirely dependent upon their experiences.
But not just that, what they do with their experiences.
Do they wallow and whine ??? Or do they improve the situation. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/18/2009 8:37:49 PM | They don't. When you have children, you have the overgrown man child, too.
Gosh, this goofy 25 yr old guy at work still makes childish and fart noises at the lunch table at work. No manners!! | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/20/2009 11:01:55 AM | | looking for fun has nothing to do with maturity, all ages can be looking for fun. Once a guy meets the right girl for him, he will want a relationship. if he wants to have fun with you, means something about you is not right for him, when ppl say oh im too busy for a relationship is all bullshit. everyone wants a relationship with the right person | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/20/2009 11:21:50 AM |
Once a guy meets the right girl for him, he will want a relationship.
Not if the "right" girl in his eyes is one who doesn't want a "relationship" as you define it, that is as something deadly serious and entirely fun-free. IOW, I think you're projecting what you want onto everyone else (esp. guys).
There are lots of women's profiles which state the importance of a guy being able to make them laugh, which denotes they're looking for a certain amount of fun and enjoyment in their relationships, if you can take them at their word. They wouldn't think a guy's desire to have fun with them would serve as a red flag and immediate disqualification from being the right one, quite the contrary. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/20/2009 12:37:56 PM | | I guess that just because the OP has a career, a job, a car, and a place to live that she feels like she's all grown up. | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/20/2009 3:54:55 PM | I think Cmdrfunk summed it up pretty well
Since when are women in a position to judge male maturity? How are men supposed to know when they're 'grown up' when most women are never satisfied and look to NOW/Oprah/the latest women's magazine to define for them what a 'real' man is supposed to be this week.
Fellas you ever notice to be considered 'grown up' you must be 'settled down'??? I believe this starts with boys and Ritalin and continues with men locked in soul-sucked marital "bliss".
The delicious irony in all this is after finding a man, waging a successful campaign to 'settle him down', yoking him to a nagging/responsible/house-broken/zero fun existence, these women turn around and pine about the lack of REAL men out there... | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/20/2009 8:20:55 PM | | And I would ask the question....when do women grow up? | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/20/2009 8:25:36 PM | | I assume you mean guys who just want sex? Well I think that depends on the guy really. Ive never ever been interested in that lifestyle so yea. But it seems like theres many of them that wont grow up. Like I said, it just depends on the guy | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/20/2009 8:58:51 PM |
So again I ask... what age do most guys grow out of their play stage - and realize its time to have something a bit more real in life?
When a woman comes along who ispires us to do so, | |
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| When do guys grow up
Posted: 10/20/2009 9:34:31 PM |
When a woman comes along who inspires us to do so.
Exactly! | |
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