| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/16/2009 8:39:26 AM |
Well, I ate a big azz salad last night.
Hopefully that doesn't put me in one of those "THAT guy" categories!
Depends...did you toss it?
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/16/2009 9:19:20 AM | So, moral of the story... Guys (who are non Asian), don't ever date Asian girls if you don't wanna be "cursed"...
Way to go to attempt to some stereotyping....
PS: I'll put this on my profile, so that every guy will be warned before they email me that I bring curse to them...
Oooooooh.
Alright.
NOW I get it. Now I'm starting to see why people have gotten so offended by my post. Wow, I honestly had no idea that it would get this out of hand. Allow me to clarify, folks.
I should have named this thread 'The PHENOMENOM of the Asian Persuasion". I can see that by the use of the word 'curse', I put a negative spin on it. I'll concede that point. However...
In my post, I was in no way shape or form either advocating nor denigrating the idea of dating an asian woman. I was asking how many people had experienced a cultural phenomenom. Before you keep on blasting away, please read this:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=asian%20fetish
I will continue to date whomsoever I please. But when I date an asian girl, it won't be because of her petite submissiveness (none of the asian or otherwise girls whom I've ever dated have been petite or submissive), it'll be because she and I can relate on a certain level and share parts of our lives together. Same as with anyone else. The point I was trying to make in my original post, which somehow got buried underneath all of this is...
As a caucasian male, in my experience (and the experience of some others whom I've talked to... apparently no one on this site, and that's fine) when you date an asian woman it's immediate assumed that you've got some creepy asian fetish. Now, there ARE guys out there who do specifically date asian women because of their creepy asian fetish, and for those of us who aren't creepy asian fetishists, it's a little annoying to be lumped into that category.
I was merely asking who else had experienced this. Apparently noone else has, and that's fine. I was NOT insulting the entire asian race. I was NOT implying that dating an asian woman will make you a social outcast. I was NOT
I mean way to reduce an entire race to some denigrated sexual category for your purposes , whatever that's supposed to imply. I was NOT warning men to stay away from dating asian women. I was simply posing a question, the answer to which I've seen is that not all men have experienced this phenomenom. That's groovy, my question has been answered.
But for those who have villified me and misunderstood my question, maybe it's time to take a look at your own delicate sensibilities and try to figure out why you would so quickly seek to take offense when none was offered. I can see the potential for misunderstanding, and that's why I'm offering a modicum of clarification with this post.
(and in case you're wondering, no I didn't write that urban dictionary article)
Interestingly enough, I checked it out, and everyone who took offense was from a non-US country. So I'm guessing this is a purely Stateside pheomenom, and merely reinforces the notion that we're all barbarians, hicks, ignorant Empiremongers, and generally nasty people. Ah well... | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/16/2009 10:57:34 AM | | TashieTash what the OP is talking about is not a bad thing, this is a straight guy thing here. We like to bust each others chops, when guys figure out that we may have a preference for a certain type of women they are going to give us a hard time about it. Not because there is anything wrong with liking Asian women, but because it's just something to tease them about. It is just one of the ways guys interact with each other, in reality the most accepted interacial couples are White men and Asian women, and I suspect that many men are a bit jelous of a guy that is dating an Asian woman. But mostly we're just guys and we like to give eachother a hard time, and any guy lucky enough to be dating an Asian woman is going to hear about it from his buds. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/16/2009 11:43:55 PM | | OP, I know exactly what you're talking about. We used to have a couple of "those guys" in highschool who ONLY went for the Asian chicks. The guys all looked the same too. Always dressed in black for some reason and trying to speak Chinese. It was really ****ing annoying. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/17/2009 2:50:52 AM | OP, while your choice of words was clumbersome, I understand your point. Out here in Vancouver where AF/WM couples are common, there is also the stereotype of the "rice king", a white male who dates asian females exlcusively often for stereotypical reasons. And yes, there is a stigma attached to it that is quite deserved in my estimation. You'll see middle aged white dudes who will seek out foreign asian women who have limited English because they are percieved to be docile and know how to treat a man right. I, too, find this rather offensive.
There is also another stigma attached to a "rice king": that he dates asian women because he is trying to validate his d1*k size. Interestingly, though, this effusion comes not from white males, but white females. Yep, a lot of y'all get fomentated when you see a handsome white male with an asian female, and don't deny this cause I know you're lying. Have an acquaitence who married a Thai lady, and many white females were mad p1ssed that he did so. Within their comfort zone, I overheard a couple remark, " what a waste, him being with that fvck1ng buddha b1tch". In response, I commented that if a white woman dates a black man, many white males will assume she is nothing but a cheap whore. Initially dumbfounded as charactereized by their reiticence, they protested that what I suggested was racist. I recall as well 3 years ago informing a blonde co-worker who often flirted with me that I had a girlfriend. Her initial response in a not too friendly tone was, "Is she asian?".
While we like to think we've progressed as a society, the fact remains that interracial dating and relationships still unveils the insecurites of many. Some of the responses to OP's initial post disclose that, and if I've stomped on a few toes, so be it. I figured that there is a need for real talk and to drop knowledge. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/17/2009 3:48:13 AM | Well said to the one of nine worlds Niflheim (Nordic ice and shadows). I know a few women who get angry at Hispanic/Latin guys going out w/Asian ladies, and when I was going out with an Asian male, I was getting BS fro both Asian females and Latin/Hispanic males. Racism is everywhere, | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/17/2009 4:15:26 AM | "Everyone's a little bit racist, sometimesss.... doesn't mean we go around committing, hate crimeeeeeeeeeeeees" Avenue Q - best musical for AGES
Yellow fever is creepy. I cringe when a white guy with 88's in his name messages me, I also cringe when I see a name with 69 in their name message me, even the ones with great messages who have made an effort to read profiles. The word's "All my other girlfriends have been chinese" is just asking for a gentle shuffle away from this potential stalker.
Multi-racial relationships are fine. I've know some great couples, it's just the sole - "I want an oriental lady" which is a little bit shower scene from Psycho. I want to say it's like only dating blondes, but consciously selecting based on a pre-set notion of race is jarring. It would be equally insulting as a blonde I suspect, if a guy messaged you and said "Hi, I only date blondes because everyone knows you'll be nice and dim and non-challenging."
Fortunately these days in the modern age, you're probably as likely to find yourself tied to the bedpost by one of these "subservient" women whilst she raids your wallet and heads off with your car. I think I prefer that image. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/17/2009 4:31:45 AM | | It's not limited to dating, just showing an interest in an Asian girl got me branded with that term in college. I sat one night at a party in the corner with an Asian girl, mostly we were playing guitar for each other on an acoustic and talking. Next day I started to get hit with that damned term and could hear people on campus "oh that's the guy who only likes Asian girls". She was a very beautiful girl though that looked more American Indian than Asian, but ended up moving away because of how all the other guys were treating her. I'm just glad I escaped that branding when I moved back to my hometown. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/17/2009 7:35:48 AM |
For the women here I think this might be more a guy thing, that's why it never happens to you.
Tropicalknights is right, this is a guy thing. GUYS BUST EACHOTHER'S BALLS! Over EVERYTHING. It's immature, it's ignorant, it's just how we like it. =P
It keeps us tough and on our toes... ready to be called out on anything, ready to always have comebacks.
Women grow up ENTIRELY different. They've got different rules.. sharing secrets, appreciating friends, social manners... you know, nice things?
We gain points for untimely farts at the bar. Get it?
BTW, I know what this guy means, I bust my buddy Kenny's balls about this CONSTANTLY. =)
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/18/2009 9:52:22 PM | | I don't get why so many people are getting offended. Yeah OP..... you horrible person.... for pointing out something true. Maybe the who "date one asian and you're THAT guy" thing is a little extreme, but I get where you're coming from. Guys who like specifically asians REALLY like asians. I like em fine. Actually I like all women.... it's not so much the packaging that matters to me. | |
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Posted: 7/18/2009 10:20:10 PM | | I have never heard of this so called "phenomenon", but do agree there are a lot of young guys, who have yet to mature, and tend to bust the chops of their friends for being "different" in any way. Truly sad. Why we feel the need to categorize each other in these inane ways mystifies me. Some people can only feel good about themselves when they are putting someone down, and to use some type of racial commentary to attempt to put someone down is pathetic, to say the least. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/23/2009 7:28:18 PM | Haha, this is a great thread.
First, there's the introduction of an intriguing stereotype amongst white teenagers. We all know 'THAT' guy, fair enough, but we all know 'that' guy for any number of stereotypes, whether it be blondes, brunettes, big breasts, missing limbs, etc. Without 'that' guy, there wouldn't be fetish porn sites that are making a killing at 29.99 per month. Hey, I should make a thread called, 'The curse of the Stump Humper'.
I enjoy how it was quickly it was hedged with the following,"I've also dated hispanic, african american, caucasian, philippino, and Icelandic girls." Myself, I'm impressed by the range of women dated,very impressed actually, but I'm somewhat foggy upon a few things. I wasn't the greatest with my atlas in HS, fair enough, but aren't Icelandic girls rather fair, alas Caucasian, and aren't the Philippines somewhere in Asia?
Though, anytime one is stricken with a curse, it is a mucho serious deal. I'm unsure what the cure would be, but perhaps you should try for some African American and Nigerian women? The direction of racism from your friends would be pointed at an entirely different continent! Fantastic, no?
Or, in a 21st century world that's growing increasingly more interconnected, one could adapt to the unoriginal barbs.
Tough choices.
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/23/2009 11:08:13 PM | I know what you're talking about; it's called the "Asiaphile."
The term itself is bullsh**, and is supposed to make white guys feel creepy if they date Asian girls.
It only works on guys who give a sh**. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/24/2009 1:33:38 AM | | Sinnn, as I've said before, check the provenence of the term asiaphile. I doesn't come from white males. Threads such as these are akin to flogging a dead horse. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/24/2009 1:48:58 AM | I love all races of women.
I have no preference.
But I love to wear my "I <3 Asian Girls" shirt to the bar...
And count how many chubby blonde women it pisses off.
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/24/2009 4:26:27 AM |
there ARE guys out there who do specifically date asian women because of their creepy asian fetish
I am also wondering about these so-called creepy asian fetishes. Could you enumerate some examples of those, please? So I will know how to avoid these men. I'm receiving nasty emails sometimes. I don't know now if it has something to do with me being Asian or some men are just simply creepy.
and aren't the Philippines somewhere in Asia?
Just want to share a little info about this misconception, please correct me if I'm wrong. I have read from an article in a newspaper some 2-3 years ago that some asians do not like the Philippines and the Filipinos (Filipino is what you called the people from the Philippines, not Philippino). Maybe some Filipinos have wronged some of these asians from a "particular" Asian country. The hatred brought some to publish an article questioning the Philippine culture, the people and the tradition as having no right to belong to other Asian cultures. It is because the Philippine culture is a rich mixture of Malays, Indones and Aetas (originally), Chinese, and its Spanish and Americans conquerors. If you have met some of those Asians, chances are you have been exposed to their beliefs. JMO.
I'm off topic, back to you. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 7/24/2009 4:44:31 AM |
As a guy, if you date one (1) asian girl, you are forever and henceforth known as THAT guy.
OP, there are many other ways to be labeled "THAT" guy and i guess, in regards to your circle of friends, dating asian chicks will brand you with that label. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 9/10/2009 1:02:20 AM | | Well, I find this subject amusing. I think white guys who date asian girls are seen as creepy, because of all the nasty reasons I I have heard spread around. They have small vaginas, they will do anything in bed; I think that is gross to use someone like an object. I think that is a lower class mentality to use a human like that, so maybe if I never heard all the sexual bits I would not find it creepy. Also there are some very petite as in short, small boned asians as well as tall ones. But in regard to the more petite asians and white guys it look kinda odd. It's like seeing a 6 foot tall women with a 4 foot tall guy. Or a fat big woman with a small skinny guy. It just looks kinda funny or odd, or the fact that some asian women who are quite tiny, may look like children more and women less, might add to the creepy factor. If you have a cartoon sence of humor you get the view. | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 9/10/2009 6:39:18 AM | I've never dated anyone of Asian descent, but I've had several Asian friends. I've always found them to be stunningly attractive and refreshing in attitude.
But as Kipling said...
'And the end of the fight is a tombstone white, with the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear: ‘A fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.' | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 9/10/2009 6:52:18 AM | OP,
I've never had that problem, and I've slept with and/or dated just about every race/ethnicity imaginable. Whoever this asian gal was, she must have left one he11 of an impression on you!  | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 9/10/2009 7:12:07 AM | "some asians do not like the Philippines and the Filipinos"
well there was just one Filipino that i was kinda uncomfortable with. the guy is basically 80% white but he still refers him self as Filipino  | |
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| The curse of the Asian Persuasion.
Posted: 9/10/2009 7:43:36 AM | | oh and i don't get the assumption about asian women in some of the white communities, for all i know the girl you are dating could be a illegal immigrant who's a pedophile or have hustled or took advantage of some dumb guy to get here. | |
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