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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/17/2009 8:56:32 PM | | Mr painlessend ,Thank you I agree. The laws need to be up graded.You can get a felony charge for stupid things. well when it happens to them and they cant get a job then they change their tunes.I know 2 guys charged with feloniesdid time , paid restituion.Tried to volunteer for local fire dept to give back to comunity and help change thier name from being black balled.They were denied even though fire dept only has 7 volunteers and was begging for more . They are so understaffed.Me? I dont care if Im dragged out of my burning house by a fellon. who is gonna take time to case my house for valuables if they are fighting a fire?People are nuts , oh yes bring on the ex cons they make better workers because they need jobs bad and are black balled from every thing.They are more dependable and more respect ful .In my experience.Ive delt with many and worked them at my company. | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/17/2009 9:15:32 PM | Aplainlessend, thank you for the Yoda wisdom, spare me the rhetoric about injustice please
sh1tty things happen to good people sometimes, everyone knows that , but that's not the topic in hand.
Its about a young naive 22 year old asking people how does she introduce her convict boyfriend to her parents who is overprotective and supporting her ass, and this wonderful outstanding individual became a guest of the government for Home invasion, this isnt about selling weed to pay his fathers debt, or too many parking tickets, were talking about some hump convicted of home invasion.
If she wants to date him , God bless her, but if she's supposed to be a adult she needs to start acting like one. | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/17/2009 9:30:42 PM | Woo hoo mahogany. But the fact of the matter is.... I do knows these individuals. I have the priviledge of keeping them contained in their nice little cells 40-60 hours every week. I also get to read their letters to home... Oh wait... which home is this...the wife or the girlfreinds..... I read what they call their wives to their girlfreinds, I listen to the phone calls, where they are calling their girlfriends whores, sluts, and any other name in the book that you can think of one second, and then professing their undying love in the next breath... Always to be followed by "Can you send me money?" Or better yet...."Send me some money b**ch".
I see the individuals, that seem to think that it is a revolving door... They leave, they come back....they leave, they come back....they leave, they...... does anyone else recognize the pattern here.... Yes...I have seen a "few" who owned up to what they did.... took responsibility for their actions...paid their debt to society, and decided that a life of crime really wasn't for them... They left....they stayed gone...
If you and I are standing in the middle of a room, and I smack you in the head then apologize profusely and claim that I will never do it again, will you forgive me? If I smack you again, but continue to admit that I was wrong and that I am sorry, are you going to forgive me again? What about the third time? The fourth? Actions speak much louder than words.... Get to know a person before you jump into a serious relationship with them. You can even go on the internet and look up his criminal record.. You have that right. Make sure what he is telling you is the truth, and not just the truth as he wants you to see it.... But OP before you do any of this... You need to grow up and take responsibility for your own life.... Stop living off of Mommy and Daddy and be a big girl....Then when you are really ready to settle down with whomever... whether it be choir boy or exconvict you are capable of making your own decisions...And are able to take responsibility for YOUR actions. | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/17/2009 9:47:45 PM | | ok heres the deal every one deserves a second chance i notice all these blogs are all very negative my god he who is without sin cast the first stone there must be alot of angels on the site,all the best aligirl if you are into this guy i say give it a shot go for it,as for telling your folks what they dont know wont hurt them its no ones buisness.... | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/18/2009 1:26:28 AM |
.looking for advice on that not if he is a good guy or not.....
i do believe people can change. did not Obama once say " if your brother has wronged you, do not forgive him 7 times but 77 times?"
now, if your parents support you 100 %, perhaps it's time to flap your wings, move out and support yourself 100%. that way, you're in control of your life. and when you feel the time is right, you can tell your parents of his learning-experienced past. by that time, you two would have been together for more then 2 years and your parents would have already met him. | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/18/2009 2:22:26 AM |
I see the individuals, that seem to think that it is a revolving door... They leave, they come back....they leave, they come back....they leave, they...... does anyone else recognize the pattern here.
sugar62law. I don't envy you. That's a hellova tough job. You're so right. The recidivism rate, I think, ranges from 60% to 80% depending on the nature of the crime. They are NOT taught to get better in prison. They're taught how to defend themselves and survive...hopefully.
How many jail personnel go to prison for asking for sexual favors from women at facilities for trades? (Deoderant, gum, shampoo.) None.
apainlessend you're missing the whole point. Sex and pot crimes (absent violence) are nowhere nearly as violent as breaking into someone's home. THAT is a crime of violence and your argument against prosecution of drug and consensual sex cases is a completely different issue even though I agree with it. Here, however, you're comparing apples to oranges. It won't fly.
How many cops take their childhood agenda's into their profession, and have the innocent Joe American take it on the chin for them to make up for what happened to them in highschool?
Generalizations? I'm absolutely certain some do and some don't. But what's that got to do with the price of fish?
When you are told you are worthless every fukcing day, and are treated as such, you begin believing it.
And worse. You start acting that way.
And lastly, this man is out. If you are still judging him, then you have some deep seated issues you need to work out on your own.
I'm not judging him. I'm advising HER!!
I mean, come on....don't our tax dollars pay you to make these men decent humans?
SEE ABOVE. | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/18/2009 5:11:18 AM | Wow.... I am not judging these people. I am merely stating the obvious. I cannot "make" these people better. The people have to want to "make" themselves into better law abiding citizens. I will agree that the system is not perfect. And Yes there are officers that are just as crooked as the inmates. And yes they are convicted and punished just as everyone else is. I also have family and friends that have fallen prey to the lure of drugs and alcohol. I have watched them sit in prison/jail for the crimes that they commited, and had to listen to them about how unjust it was. I told them, as I will tell you now... It is the choices that we make that determine where we will go in life. It does not matter what nationality, color, religion or sexual preference you are...If YOU choose to break the law, then YOU are responsible for consequences. Yes we all make mistakes. Yes we all have the capacity to change our ways. Yes we all deserve a second chance. But when do these second chances have to stop? At what point should we as "society" say "enough is enough"?
I talk with the inmate population on a daily basis. What bothers me is not that they made the mistakes so much, but that they have absolutely no remorse in what they did. The prevailent attitude of "It's not my fault" is very disturbing. I swear that if I hear "I was abused as a child, so I am not responsible for my actions" one more time, I am gonna "****slap" someone.. I was also abused verbally, sexually, and physically as a child. I do not wear this as a "badge of honor" and my free ticket to do whatever in the hell I want. I use my past experience to make sure that I do everything in my power to keep this from happening to another child. Because although what happened to me was horrible, degrading, and devistating, I still know the difference between right and wrong. As an adult, I am no longer that scared little girl, afraid to speak up and be heard. I am able to use my voice not to say "poor me", but to holler "never again".
Yes there are crooked cops and corrections officers. Just as there are crooked politicians, bank managers, CEO's, financial officers, car salesmen, priests, ministers, butchers, bakers, and candlestick makers. But when any of these people wind up on the back side of the grill, they are an "inmate". REGUARDLESS of who they are.
I do not treat you as an animal. I treat you with the same respect that I expect from you. I will remain firm, fair and consistent in my dealings with all of the inmates in my unit, because I do not know what you are in there for. It does not matter. I am one officer in a unit of 134 inmates. I know that I am outnumbered. So do you think that I am going to "control" them with disrespect, violence and disdain? No...... | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/18/2009 7:42:40 AM | Oh ya, sure.... people change all the time !!!! Thats why women stay with abusive men, cause they can change! And they end up in a morgue somewhere... and cheating wives or husbands can change too!!! Thats why a lot of people end up divorcing after a while...
And self-centered jerks will one day realize the error of their ways and start being carring and selfless... You can go on dreaming Aligirl, but never go out with someone and wait for them to change... they might just surprise you... the WRONG way and I'm sure you and your parents wouldnt want that. Altough there is a really small chance that he actually changed but do you really want to take that chance? Or are you secretly suseptible to the ' bad guys" ? Or maybe you are too gullible... wake up !
Just take the time to think and re-think carrefully! | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/18/2009 7:57:54 AM | I'm sorry to say this applesteed but a big part of YOUR problem lies in the country you live in. There are some legal issues that are a bit weird... well weird for me cause here our laws are a bit different, but you seem to miss the big picture here! The problem is NOT some poor soul going to jail for some obscure reason but a criminal who comited a crime that is considered as a big one! You can forget to pay your tickets or didint had the money to do it, thats OK, you can get pissed of because someone touched your kid and you put your fist in his face, that dosent mean you are a bad person. But think about it... you work all your life to live decently, you put all your effort to afford your dreams, finally. And someone just comes in your house and take all this from you! Wouldnt you be mad ? Wouldnt you feel violated? Thats why home invesion is considered a severe offense pal! Cause you INVADE someone dreams and privacy... and for what? A little money! That is a really self-centered thing to do!
And maybe you should work on your own issues with some professionnal help. Not to be mean or anything but it looks like its eating you in the inside! | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/18/2009 9:56:28 AM | I have to say this... y'all are killing my sides from laughing so hard at some of the comments.
I want to throw in my 2 cents (with taxes it's worth about 1/2 of a cent).
My ex husband is a convicted felon. His career now is working at a convenience store making just a touch over minimum wage - he used to be a programmer/analyst pulling a heck of a lot more than maybe 9 bucks an hour. When he was being investigated for his crime(s), they didn't just investigate him, they investigated everyone associated with him (family, friends, coworkers, neighbors). That means they did background checks on all of us, ran our plates, watched our house to see who came and went. Anytime his pre-trial officer wanted, she would stop by the house and demand to be let in. As a condition of his release he had to let this woman in my home. She went through everything, my drawers (including my underwear drawers), my children's rooms, every nook and cranny looking for evidence that he was up to no good.
When he was convicted he was given time to put his affairs in order. He asked me to drive him to the prison (fed pen) in the middle of the desert in California. I declined and dropped him off at the Marshall's office with 50 bucks to see him through and ran like hell away from him and his issues. He spent his time in prison, got out and went to a halfway house for the first 30 days post-prison. He then went to Texas because I refused to allow him back in my home. The invasion of my privacy and my childrens privacy was too much to bear.
I have a working relationship with his probation officer in Texas. He is not allowed to travel to Washington for at least another 3 years because of his behavior and threats to me (control and manipulation and oh my gosh, so much anger). He is not allowed to use a computer to communicate with me. He requested he be allowed to travel to Washington, but his behavior was becoming erratic and therefore he has now had to undergo a year of random drug tests, psychiatric treatment and is not allowed to travel. He admits he's still mad as heck with me. He told me once when I divorced him I would pay, and I have paid, but the freedom I got was totally worth it.
The OP doesn't realize what she's in for. The least of her worries are her parents. But what do I know... | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/18/2009 12:04:22 PM |
Why would you even consider going out with someone who has been in jail?
At some point she mentioned that she used to be a drug dealer, I believe. Her choices in life have already been iffy. This is just another one of those choices for her. | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/19/2009 9:36:13 AM | You just started dating him and all of a sudden you KNOW him enough to say he's "changed and is a good guy"?! It's amazing the rationalization that goes on these forums.
I look forward to your next forum post in about a month or two when he's completely screws you over and feel like an idiot. | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/19/2009 9:59:18 AM | Wow.... Somebody has all the answers as to why this country is so Fu**ed up... But I cannot help but wonder if he thinks this place is so awful, why doesn't he go elsewhere? That is the beautiful thing about this country.... You are fee to leave at anytime.... Unless of course you are a felon.... Hmmmm.... I see someone also likes to throw that race card around...
As far as the prison systyms goes... There are programs available for rehabilitation. But as you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. We can offer these programs...We can even make you take them, but if you do not utilize what you CAN learn, then that is where the rehabilitation ends... I cannot make you change your attitude... I cannot make you want to be a better person. I cannot make you treat others with the respect that you seem to be demanding from others. I can only use the skills that I have to offer you these programs. To assist you in getting the help you WANT. But if you continue with an attitude, that it is not my fault, or I was singled out, whatever, then there is no help available for you. I am sorry that you are such an angry person. But I cannot make you feel happier...That has to come from within you.
As far as you saying BS on whether or not I was abused.... Oh man you are so way out of line...But I will tell you... I will shout it from the roof tops if that will make more people aware of what to watch for to protect thier own children. I am not ashamed of what happened to me... Ya know why? It was not my fault... I did not entice, tease, lead on, or encourage what happened to me... I have come to terms with what happened. I dealt with it...But I will not let it define who I am. Or what I am. I am a good person. I have a generous heart and I try to treat those around me with the same respect that I would like to recieve. So if this makes me a "bad officer" then so be it.... I can deal with that too...
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/19/2009 6:50:59 PM | Okay "seed" here is a little rundown on your past posts.... You jump in at message 100. You try to excuse your cousins crime of selling weed to pay for his fathers debts. Who btw was a minister. So my question is, Was Dad as accepting of the excuse, or did he even know? You also make the remark that someone can get someone pregnant and then run off, but they don't go to jail for it... Well getting someone pregnant is not a crime. Maybe it should be, but it is NOT.
In message 112 you make the statement that the laws are merely a means to keep minorities, poor white people, and other "low class" in check. You are the one making the statement that minorities and poor white people are lower class.... You feel that cocaine is okay because rich people do it, but crack is "stigma city". Both are illegal. When did you last look up the new sentencing laws on cocaine?
I cannot, now will I try to tell you why your friend could not go to school. I know that college courses are offered to one and all. You accuse Tennessee of pushing over the mexicans, and when a minority has a "roach" in a can of cola they got arrested.... Still that whole illegal thing going here... Just because it was only "a little" does not mean it is okay....
And finally in msg 124 you state. "because I am black, I am to act a certain way". Again, you are the one bringing the race card to the table. You also state that while locked up on a BS weed charge..... Face it young man, what you did was illegal, plain and simple. The excuses don't hold water..... As far as my listening to your phone calls and reading your mail while locked up, we had to start doing that when the inmates tried to continue thier criminal activity over the phones and in the mail etc etc etc. And what is quite funny is that THEY know we listen and read, yet they still attempt to do it.... Yep.... Einsteins I tell ya.... Also in message 124 you make the comment that the OP did not state how long the guy was down... Well had you read her original post, you would have seen that he was down 3 years (minimun sentence for HOME INVASION....
Yes there are crooked cops and corrections officers in the prisons. We just do not advertise them for obvious reasons. The same reasons that we do not single out the child molesters, rapists etc etc etc... I personally do not know why you are there unless you tell me... But when the fact is known that you are a molester, then you are the first one to scream for protective custody.... Hmm
As far as Me working for Child protective services, I was not able to afford to go to school for a degree... You see, according to the pell grant and other "financial aid" facilities, I made too much money. It did not matter that the money I made had to be spent making a living for my son and I.... but that is no matter. I adjusted, I found a job, that I really do enjoy... despite the harsh critisism that I get from people like you. Angry at a world that did not get the memo that we owe you a debt... Well suck it up young man.... Pull yourself up by your big boy panties and get over it... Find a job that you enjoy, and quit trying to make "big money" by stretching the laws to fit your needs. It does not work that way. Imagine how many people do manage to make a good life for themselves while managing to stay out of trouble.... Hmmmm they must be doing something right.... Might want to figure out what it is..... | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/25/2009 8:35:09 AM | | I think as woman and men we should check the person(s) out on court of queens bench.Someone with a record can possible change but for the most part we get caught up with there lies and do not see the true colors....i would be leary dating someone who served time ....just be very careful and if any red flags come up run with your gut feelings. | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 7/25/2009 9:27:08 AM | Your parents are overprotective, and you're dating someone who would give them a heart attack....
anyone want to analyze just this statement? anyone?
If you're being supported 100% financially, WHY do you want to screw that up?
Answer, honestly to yourself, these two questions.
From that, you will find the answer. Everything else in your post doesn't matter. Yes, people can change. People make mistakes. But really, focus on the two questions I posted rhetorically above. | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 10/18/2009 1:37:07 PM | So he served some time, big deal..get over it. Speaking of prison, I met a bbw chic on this site a few weeks ago. I don't know what is it with her but she had some sick twisted fantasy of getting gangbanged by a few prison inmates in a cell.
BTW she went into complete detail (which is to explicit to post)..lol. | |
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| So he has been in prison so what right?
Posted: 10/18/2009 1:52:53 PM | | just tell them he did some bad things in the past and is currently turning his life around. No need to speak of prison and all that. Let them know who he is, and if he feels he wants to tell them about his incarceration I'm sure he will. There is a difference between lying and letting ppl know the information that they need to know | |
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