| NCAA Football Season 2009
Posted: 8/16/2009 10:55:13 AM | USC has 3 out of Conf. at Ohio State and at Notre Dame who are ranked. They are playing 5 ranked teams, 4 of those away.
6 home games and 6 away.
At Cal, At Notre Dame, Oregon State, At Oregon, At Arizona State..... That will be a tough road. only to come home to improved Stanford, UCLA & Arizona.
i get your point, but just keep in mind that those road games are part of a home amd home series or a rotating sch. point is that they had them teams at home last year. i wouldnt buy into the notre dame is ranked either, they are the most overratted year in and year out. yes i agree with you , it will be a tough road, so will be getting thru the s.e.c for the gators. just keep in mind 2 of the worst teams last year in the sec ( south car. and tenn) both had top 15 deffenses. iam not saying there arent good teams in the pac10, but no other team except usc would i worry about, well maybe thats why no other team except usc are nat. champ contenders. | |
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Posted: 8/16/2009 11:58:43 AM | denny...
look close at last season.... The PAC 10 got no love in the polls... Cal, Oregon and Oregon State who had as good of seasons as any... and ended up ranked higher than those SEC teams that were all ranked high at the beginning.(Vandy-Kentucky-LSU-Auburn-South Carolina) Just like what you are saying now... No one except SC is a natl contender... but I bet you will say Florida, Alabama, Georgia... and maybe others in the SEC are Natl. contenders...
You know, Oregon State only lost to Utah by a missed extra point and a missed field goal... sure.. they lost... but it was at Utah... Who killed Alabama.... OK.. and Penn State killed Oregon State at Penn State.... and Oregon State upset USC at Oregon State.... But USC killed Penn State in the Rose Bowl...
I know... It doesn't mean a lot... except... that these teams are all closer to the same talent, than what people want to admit to. Ohio State... should have beaten Texas I believe... but a bone head defensive play, let the receiver get behind him in the last minutes of that game. That would have had Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State all lose their bowl games. so instead they went 1-3 in that group with a narrow victory.
As far as the rankings last year.....They were only 4-0 or 3-1 in the SEC, because they hadn't played anyone yet... same with the Big12... Just look at the sched and how the polling helped them last year. So then they start playing each other... and everyone is ranked because they are 4-0... But forget how they got there I guess. Mean while.. the Pac 10 is playing a tougher out of conf. and lost a couple games.
It will be the same way this year.. just watch.
I'm not here saying the PAC10 is the best conf... But it isn't just SC... watch out for Oregon and Cal... and a sleeper... UCLA
But because teams are in the SEC and BIG12... they will go up in the rankings at the beginning of the year... again... just watch, because they hardly play any tough out of conf. Then they will complain about playing in the SEC.... and I'm sorry... But Florida only playing Georgia and LSU isn't tough.... especially when Georgia will be down this year I believe... and all LSU did last year was beat Georgia Tech in their bowl game... other than that they sucked.
Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, SC and maybe BAMA have teams that can come together and do big things this season... But you are right
USC plays Oregon, and Cal, and Notre Dame and others... every season... where as in the SEC and other conf. for the most part don't schedule everyone... Florida is not playing Alabama and Ole Miss.... this will help all three of these teams in the polls... because someone would have a loss. And this is only one example. | |
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Posted: 8/16/2009 2:13:31 PM | Yup YOur Right Pac 10 got the shaft...... I think Usc.. cal, ORe & Ore St will be quite good this year.....
Yes IM a buckeye fan and um thats my college lol.. But Honeslty once again i think USC will beat us when they come to the shoe in sept grrrrr | |
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Posted: 8/16/2009 6:52:56 PM |
But Honeslty once again i think USC will beat us when they come to the shoe in sept grrrrr
If it makes you feel any better... I'm a bit nervous... it will be SC's first big test... The 3 linebackers are smaller.. and lack experience... I think they will play good... and I believe they don't have as many back ups in that position as last year. But this will be a test... And SC just might be starting a true freshman at quarterback. It will be a big test for him... Playing at that stadium.
It also determines how much more TP matured.... And I think that Navy game will get OSU more ready and up to speed, than San Jose State (even though... they can surprise a team)
I'm thinking OSU/SC will be a good game... I would be very surprised to see either blow the other one out... If one does. I think that will say a lot about them. | |
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Posted: 8/16/2009 7:16:19 PM | | i just got my tix to ga/fla game.....the superbowl of the south/largest outdoor coktail party.....im stoked tthese tix are EXTREMELY hard to get, if Georgia wins im gonna be able to pass on to the next life if the gators win ill live. | |
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| NCAA Football Season 2009
Posted: 8/17/2009 2:08:18 AM | USC plays Oregon, and Cal, and Notre Dame and others... every season... where as in the SEC and other conf. for the most part don't schedule everyone... Florida is not playing Alabama and Ole Miss.... this will help all three of these teams in the polls... because someone would have a loss. And this is only one example.
you made some great points, most of which i agree with! the gators do play georiga and tenn. every year now i know tenn. has been down for the last couple years but then again so has notre dame. look i think usc is a great team and iam not saying they cant play with the sec, but what iam saying is in my opinion if they played in the sec they would not have the sucesse they have had in the pac10. also keep in mind the gators also play fl. state, agaim i know there not as good as they once where, again i still think that they are better then say stanford or arizona or half of the other pac10 teams. also not that pre season polls mean crap, but the sec has 3 teams in the top ten, i only see 1 pac10 team, but like i said the pre season polls dont mean crap. but all in alll i think u have made some great points and i look forward to the debates we will have leading uo 2 and thru out the season. | |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 1:25:51 PM | Yup jack... USC has To Replace alot On "D" but They will have SPeed on that side of the ball as well....
Starting that Frosh qb BArkley will be the big unknown.. I know the other fella Corp is banged up a lil.. But Wow I thought SC didnt start frosh Qbs?.... Sheesh How Bad Is Mitch Mustain.. Really He Started @ Ark and Really Cant sniff The Field later on in career @ SC..
With the way Navy runs there offense it will give OSU Fits,, which could effect them For the Next week against USC, But after Saying that,, its Just an Excuse.. We Lost one of our LB Moeller FOr the Year Plus I think Our Run "D" will be the weak spot this yr.. and I assume USC will do alot of Running Plays when they come to the Shoe with a Rookie Qb...
Yes Im Sure Sc will Beat San Jose State easy in the opener, But San Jose had a pretty nice Defense last year i dont know how many starters are back but if most Are,could be helpful for USC Youth qb too get good looks @ a Decent Defense....
Yes it will be a difficult trip for USC too play in the shoe so early in the season, It prolly wont be a blow out either but I see USC on top ! Ughhh | |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 4:26:26 PM | | Uuggg JACK and rest of the crew - Feeling No Love for the Big 10 here!.... Might have to shift back to the Big 10 blogs..... Bummer | |
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| NCAA Football Season 2009
Posted: 8/17/2009 9:37:46 PM | | Lol Sue...... Ohio St is My school but jsut dont feel good about this season... IMO nothing looks yummy in the Big 10 except Penn St! | |
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Posted: 8/18/2009 2:22:04 PM | just to point out the sec doesn't have to schedule everybody because they have a title game - so the two best teams out of the sec will play each other no matter what every year
it means a great team will likely be left out of the national title picture but the winner of the game has an inside track to the bcs title game
its good for the league | |
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Posted: 8/18/2009 2:28:22 PM | just to point out the sec doesn't have to schedule everybody because they have a title game - so the two best teams out of the sec will play each other no matter what every year
thats a good point, that means if u play in the sec championship u can just about bet that u are playin another really good team, maybe for the second time. the team u will play is most likely just as good as a team that anybody schd. outts conference. i think all conferences should have to play a title game. | |
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Posted: 8/18/2009 3:14:42 PM |
thats a good point, that means if u play in the sec championship u can just about bet that u are playin another really good team, maybe for the second time. the team u will play is most likely just as good as a team that anybody schd. outts conference. i think all conferences should have to play a title game.
No... that doesn't work... that theory... What if Mizz beat Okla. last year in the Big 12... Texas a much better team would be left out.
The North div. can be way worse than the south.. or East or West... If you just play everyone.... than your record stands for itself.
There will be some real good OOC games (some in Conf's as well)........... in the first three weeks....
Oregon vs Boise State
Alabama vs Virg Tech
Georgia vs Oklahoma State
BYU vs Oklahoma
Miami vs Florida State
Clemson vs Georgia Tech
USC vs Ohio State
Georgia Tech vs Miami
Utah vs Oregon
Florida State vs BYU
Texas Tech vs Texas
Even these Match-ups will be something to watch. It will influence the strengths of the conf... when it comes to polling. Last year both the SEC and Big 12... had several teams 3-0... 4-0 even Vandy & Kentucky... Kansas & Mizz... Texas Tech played no one until their last 4 games. It will be different this year. But even Florida's sched this year, is easier than Texas Tech's was last year.
LSU vs Washington (this is a bad match-up for LSU... it's lose a lose... even if they blow them out it is expected, if they lose?)
Maryland vs Cal
Mizz vs Illi.
Fresno vs Wisconsin
Notre Dame vs Michigan
UCLA vs Tenn
Houston vs Oklahoma State
Boise State vs Fresno
Arizona vs Iowa
West Virginia vs Auburn
K State vs UCLA
These SEC early match-ups will change the way the polls were last year. Just something to think about. They all won't be 3-0 like last year. Same as Big12... tougher sched's at the beginning of the season. No 4 game warm-up.
Miss State vs Auburn
South Carolina vs Georgia
Vandy vs LSU
Tenn vs Florida
Miss State vs Vandy
Georgia vs Arkansas
Just my theory.....
And don't get me wrong... I think Florida has a great program, play in a tuff conf and with the great coach they have, and a good team coming back... It's unfortunate their sched is so weak. | |
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Posted: 8/18/2009 5:25:48 PM | texas got left out anyway - you can't contend for a national title if you don't win your conference
and you can't win your conference if you can't even win your own division (like texas)
sure good teams are gonna be left out but it sure beats not having a title game
alabama went undefeated and was #1 since like week 3 and then loses to florida in the sec title game and all of a sudden is completely out of the national title picture even though all the other teams also had one loss
now if they would just give us a playoff - college football is the only sport where no games can end in a tie, but the whole da*mn season can end in a tie - come on voters deciding the champion this is football not gymnastics lol
alabama v texas would have been a great game to include in the playoff format because they both had as good a record as the champs but were not even in the discussion | |
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Posted: 8/18/2009 7:57:23 PM | Yes... playoffs... is what is needed...
But with the current system.... If conf teams just played everyone in their conf.... You would know who was best... and no need for a conf championship game. | |
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Posted: 8/18/2009 8:53:49 PM | | THem old weasel Presidents will never go for a playoff system.. they're making too much $$ with the bowl System....they care less what the fan wants or who's #1 grrrr | |
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Posted: 8/19/2009 10:30:05 AM | No... that doesn't work... that theory... What if Mizz beat Okla. last year in the Big 12... Texas a much better team would be left out.
The North div. can be way worse than the south.. or East or West... If you just play everyone.... than your record stands for itself.
what if? the point is they didnt, also keep in mind that has already happened , remember nebraska getting beat in the big12 champ. , it didnt keep them out did it. anyway my point was about the sec not the big12. also what if usc had to play a championship game, they could get beat in that game( if, ands ,butts) .or even ohio state for that matter, they ( big ten) dont have to play a conf. championship either.i think it is a blessing for the sec teams going into the championship ( bcs) game, its also harder for them , that they have to play a extra game against a good team!! just think about this since 1980, only 2 pac10 teams have won a nat. championship, wear as 5 sec teams have won one, and of that 5 , 3 have won more then once.again iam dissing the pac10 , i think they are a good conf. but just not as good as the sec, just my opinon. | |
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Posted: 8/19/2009 2:57:41 PM | Hey... you can only win a Championship.... If you are put into the game.... Many years teams are put in... They don't necessarily win there way in. It's based on polls, and the SEC followed by the Big12 seem to always get the benefit of the doubt when teams are tied.
Look at last year Florida and USC both with one loss, Florida lost at home, SC lost away. It was the polls that determined the SEC and Big12 match-up for the Championship. The polls that favor those two conf's every year, even when they have a weaker schedule.
If for some reason, Florida and SC were tie, undefeated or 1 loss at the end of the year... Florida will go... But their sched, is not as tuff as USC's
and I'm not saying the PAC10 is a tougher conf's.... Just that the SEC isn't that much tougher. And that this bias for everyone in the SEC being tough... even when they lose to low caliber teams... is just funny. | |
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Posted: 8/19/2009 3:53:58 PM | Perhaps it is is time to go to 8 12 team conferences. Each conf has a championship game. Each championship winner gets qualified into a 8 team playoff.
Should college football have a RPI similar to what basketball uses? | |
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Posted: 8/20/2009 5:32:14 AM | and I'm not saying the PAC10 is a tougher conf's.... Just that the SEC isn't that much tougher. And that this bias for everyone in the SEC being tough... even when they lose to low caliber teams... is just funny
just for the record ole miss did finish with a higher rank then or. state, so i dont know what the lower caliber means. also keep in mind that ole miss stiffled that great offense that was called texas tech. also about the sec always getting the benifit of the doubt, keep in mind when aurburn went undefeated, they didnt get in, usc got in, so i dont think they always get the benifit of the doubt. or how bout the year that lsu won the bcs champ. game but yet usc gets a share of the nat. champ., my point is not that usc didnt deserve it, its just iam pointing out that the sec doesnt always get the benifit of the doubt. also according to the usa today floridas sch rank was 4th and usc was 16th last year, and the year before lsu was 11th and usc was 29th, and in 06 usc was ranked higher then florida, usc was 2nd and florida was 8th. so anyway 2 of the 3 years the sec rep has played a higher ranked sch then usc, so i would say under the current system they have played there way in. now take these rankings for what they worth, and to b honest i have seen alot of differnt rankings on this aswell. last thing last year usc played 5teams that ended up in the final top 25, florida also played 5 teams that where in the final top 25, both teams lost to 1 of those teams. the only thing i see that was harder for the gators is that they played and beat #1 and #2 in back to back games, again to think that usc sch was tougher then floridas, maybe even but not better. | |
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Posted: 8/20/2009 2:19:11 PM | Oklahoma State will Roll First week in stillwater Over the dawgs
thats going to b a intresting game, we know how much trouble them big12 offenses have with those sec defenses, going to fun to watch. | |
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Posted: 8/20/2009 3:33:44 PM | True Denny...... I like that WR for OSU Dez Bryant........
dawgs "D" will be good but there O has alot to rebuild | |
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Posted: 8/23/2009 4:46:58 PM | | Va Tech has a strong defense this year as always with beamer ball. Finally our offense can handle its load too. Even with evans out. we have three more on the depth chart that can handle the load. With Taylor working on his arm this spring im excited for sept. 5. Plus with Alabama's inexperience at D this year and our D can match their offense. The only game im nervous about is Ga.Tech. but i think we can go undefeated this year if we stay healthy and we actually play some tough teams in the ACC and with nebraska. I think we have a good shot. BEAT BAMA. GOOOO HOKIES. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2009 7:34:29 PM | | Big Loss With RB evans going down for the Hokies.. but if Taylor stays healthy @ Qb Watch out! | |
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