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 dennyden

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Posted: 9/3/2009 1:20:06 PM
Florida is a 63 point favorite in their home opener against Charleston Southern



thats bad, usc plays san jose state and texas opens with La.-Monroe. wow , i guess they all open with powerhouses,lol
 JackDiamond312

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Posted: 9/3/2009 11:03:14 PM
USC plays at Ohio State week two..... Where does Florida play?

And denny, I agree about Florida State... That isn't a push over for Florida, just like Notre Dame isn't a push over for USC... even when those teams are down.... and I'm just messin' with you SEC guys... you get so mouthy sometimes... it's fun to mess with you... and I'm not saying anyone here in particular... Just SEC fans in general.... It's a bigger conference... you have more fans to mess with. Personally... I just like a good college football game.

How bad did Oregon look.... If Boise State didn't get sloppy with the ball... that game would have been a big blow out.... If you didn't watch it... don't go by the score.... I hope Oregon picks it up... but they didn't really get anything going tonight.

Who thinks Bama & Georgia will win? I think Georgia is going to have their hands full with OSU?
 dirtydeeds86

Joined: 5/14/2009
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Posted: 9/3/2009 11:46:17 PM
lol Jac.. fla prolly plays the sisters of the poor and texas prolly get charleston southern after FLA.... so sad top notch programs like them play chitty non conference schedules every year....

oregon looked horrid.. ekkkkk dude should get kicked off team for that cheap shot punch at end of game.......

well im 0-2 or well 0-3 lol i bet 3 teams on thurs lol nc st -5.. ore +3 & troy -7 umm all losers lol....... the best 2 teams i liked in the w/e were okie st and va tech lol so it looks good for the sec
 Meh2k

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Posted: 9/4/2009 7:41:27 AM
well it didnt make the gators or ole miss deffenses look to bad did they?


And Floridas offense who had scored like 50+ all season managed how many points on that "bad" big 12 defense in the BCS game?
 vbxtc

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Posted: 9/4/2009 2:18:13 PM

dude should get kicked off team for that cheap shot punch at end of game.......


Not quite...but he is out for the rest of the year. That had to be one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen by a player on national tv. He talked a bunch of trash and when it came back to bite him in the *ss (-5 yards) he completely melted down. I don't think I've ever seen someone have to basically be carried off a field by his team to keep him from going off on the crowd. At least not in football.
 MGMLION

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Posted: 9/4/2009 5:42:16 PM
^^^^He told Boise State they had a ass whipping coming to them after last years game. When the game game was over the Boise State player told him he owes them two ass whippings that's when the Oregon player hit the Boise State player in the mouth.

In the NFL the Giants, Redskins, and the Eagles will get two ass whippings this year from the Dallas Cowboys.
 yeswho

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Posted: 9/4/2009 10:16:07 PM
Dream on Mgmlion/
 Meh2k

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Posted: 9/5/2009 7:37:03 PM
Down goes OU

As a Texas fan i can't say i'm too sad to see that. The Mountain west conference ain't no joke some really good team there (BYU, Utah and TCU) which just goes to show yet again how broken the BCS system is. Teams in the Big East get an automatic BCS bowl game while better teams in non BCS conferences have to run the table to even be considered
 dirtydeeds86

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Posted: 9/6/2009 5:06:46 AM
oi oi my buckeyes are in real danger next week.. USC will kill us again ;[......

Pretty weird ya might think when the bucks were up 15 with what 8 mins to go ,why not Kick the FG to go up by 18 and make it a 3 poss game... when they had 4th and 2 on the 17....

My reasonin is the Line was OSU-21 1/2, so tressel wanted to keep his old connections happy back in Y'town by trying to score a late td too keep everyone fine n dandy and cover the spread.....


Yikes Oklahoma No bueno and the Big 10 looked horrid as well grr
 SaharaM

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Posted: 9/6/2009 9:09:42 PM
PSU will be on top. Just wait.
 dirtydeeds86

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Posted: 9/7/2009 10:07:29 AM
Penn State will Probably win the Big 10 but ekk big 10 is down this year....

It will be awful hard to jump over Fla, Tex and USC........

Will boise get shafted this year.... If they Go undefeated will they get a Shot @ a BCS Bowl again? look at their schedule I really cant see no one knocking them off... But then again thats why games arent played on paper
 JackDiamond312

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Posted: 9/8/2009 9:42:30 AM
Florida State and Miami was a great game.....
Can't wait to see what happens when Oklahoma goes to Miami and Florida State to BYU.

Saturday will be a great game between USC and Ohio State... I hope.... Can Barkley handle the Horse Shoe? He does have talent around him.... And USC's D looked sharp after they settled in.... Will they get a better start in Ohio?
It will also take Pryor stepping up a notch and if OSU's D can rattle Barkley..... I'm hoping for an exciting game... with an SC win of course.
I know if Barkley gets rattled they can bring in AC... but I'd like to see Barkley go from start to finish undefeated with this tuff road schedule. (I'm thinking the game at Notre Dame might turn out to be a good one, as well as at Cal) Lets see if Oregon can bounce back at all?

I also wonder what is going to happen, UCLA at Tennessee?... From both teams first performances... I think it can be a beat down by Tennessee... I will really be surprised if UCLA gives them a game... they seem so unorganized. But look what Washington did to LSU.... Didn't expect that, on paper Washington beat LSU... it was mistakes that lost that one... a basically new team with a new coach and system.... that was winless last year. They don't have a defense yet, but their offense played pretty good, the interception for a touch down and fumbling on the goal line aside. I think Sark is on his way.
 dennyden

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Posted: 9/8/2009 11:14:00 AM
Saturday will be a great game between USC and Ohio State... I hope.... Can Barkley handle the Horse Shoe?


i think usc will do just fine. ohio state is like 0-6 against ranked NON CONFERENCE oppents or something like that, either way they dont play well against the best of the best. i hope you are right about my vols, i was very happy watching them play on sat., i do wonder how much of that was the team they where playing, but i will take it. i know we got the best safety in the country and our running backs looked good. about the wash. thing, i dont think there is such a thing as beating some one on paper, iam did lsu win or not? thats all that really matters, sure lsu could have been more impressive, but in a couple of weeks no one will remember them just beating wash. , they will just remember that they beat them. just like in a couple weks from now, no one will remember that alabama outgained v.t. 500 and some yards to 150 yards or something like that, they will just remember that they beat them. oh well best of luck to your trojans this week, i think they will win by atleast 14 points.
 JackDiamond312

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Posted: 9/8/2009 12:18:55 PM
Thanks denny.... I think SC will play great.

My point about Washington has nothing to do about wins or loses... It has to do with this concept of how one confrence is so superior than another... It's not really true... and for one thing the SEC and BIG 12 are bigger conf. and don't play everyone... to me this gives a false sense of how they can compare to a confrence who does have to play everyone.

Fla doesn't play Ole Miss or Alabama.... 2 of the top 3 in their conf.... Alabama doesn't play Fla or Georgia...

I will say that LSU and Tennessee play all four(I think).... Fla, Alabama, Ole Miss and Georgia.... Much tougher.

The only reason I bring this up... is that a loss in the season really hurts in the polls.... SC plays the tough PAC 10 teams in the season... not after in a play off. Fla may never play Bama or Ole Miss if they don't win their division...

Look at the Big 12 last year... Mizz in the conf finals..... Texas, Okla State and Texas Tech were better.

This year who will it be Nebraska? and Texas, Okla State and maybe Oklahoma will fight for the other spot.

I think the Pac 10 sched is perfect.. They play everyone (9 games)... and usually at least two of their three OOC is with a competitive team.

Unlike the Big12 and SEC where they don't play everyone (only 8 of 11 posible teams) and they usually play one competitive out of Four OOC.....(not everyone and not all the time) (Like Oklahoma playing BYU and Miami, and Georgia playing Okla State and Arizona State... oh and Georgia Tech-- that is a tough OOC) (But you won't find many in the SEC brave enough to do that.) But then they add a conf Championship game and say that makes it ok?

Look, I like college football, I like most teams... even the SEC and Big 12... I just think they have set it up to give them a slight advantage over other conf's. and I also think the ESPN bias doesn't help either.... Look at South Carolina's first game... they play on the road in an ACC stadium... but have SEC officials because of the ESPN contract.... It's not right.... We all saw the face mask take down on a kick off return that was just totally ignored.

I just want a fair playing field... thats all...

If it wasn't for all the hype all the time for the SEC by ESPN it would be more fun to watch.... and yes... Tennessee does have a great Safety... Second only to SC's Taylor Mays

 dennyden

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Posted: 9/8/2009 12:34:27 PM
i see the point u are making, but the only thing is that they may not play them this year but might have to play all of them next year, it just depends on how the sch falls. again maybe they will have to play bama in the sec conf. champ. game or lsu for that matter, so just because they dont have them on there sch. as of now doesnt mean they wont play them. as far as the south car. thing goes, yes it was a blown call, that happens in most all games, also i thought the road team always brought the officals? if u want a level playing feold, then make all conferences play a conf. champ. game. also i dont think nc state would have won that game anyway, there offense was really bad, but thats if s,ands and butts. so let me get this right, at first its the media that has a bias for the sec, then i point out the facts that usc has got some breaks from the media, now its espn that has the bias. its funny how i see usc on espn all the time, wonder why, maybe because they are a really good team. the point is if the pac10 had alot of teams in the top 10 year after year or won 3 of the last 4 championships or what ever it is, they would be on espn just like the sec, espn wouldnt not cover a championship team because they are in the pac10, no team gets more coverage then usc, unless they are the defending nat. champs. last thing my vols have played notredame, miami and we just signed a contract to play ohio state also in outta conference games in the last 7 years or so, oh and dont forget they we have also played cal and ucla ( pac10 schools) also.
 hiprettylady

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Posted: 9/8/2009 1:36:21 PM
don't have any predictions,just enjoyed watching all the games over the holiday weekend,must have watched 8 0r 10 games. ASU/Idaho st game was fun to watch if you're a sundevil fan like me. FSU/MIAMI game was the best game of the weekend,very entertaining and knew it would be a shootout and go down to the wire.thank god football's back
 JackDiamond312

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Posted: 9/8/2009 3:14:57 PM
denny... the home teams usually have their officials.... what ever conf they are playing in.

The thing about ESPN isn't about who is the best or worst teams.... They have a contract with the SEC... It is beneficial for ESPN for the SEC to do well, because of that contract. They will show more SEC games than anyone else... because it's their contract... and in that contract with the SEC, they are aloud to bring their officials...

It is big ratings for ESPN if the SEC does well, so of course they are going to toot the SEC's horn....

No big deal... it happens everywhere... Just know when you watch it... you know what is going on.

It's like the comments about the LSU and Washington game.... I can't tell you how many times... when the game was close they kept making excuses for LSU... Like how far they had to travel... and how hard it must be to be playing this late.... Give me a break... It's always hard for anyone to travel... But It is much worse going east where you lose time... rather than coming west where you gain it.... If you want to talk about travel.... what about Hawaii playing at Florida?

It's probably about 8 hours of travel at least (probably longer).... and then they have that what? 5 hour time difference? They left hawaii at 8 in the morning and get into Florida at 9 pm... thats brutal. LSU travelled from Louisiana to Washington..... What a 5 hour flight at the most... gaining 2 hours maybe 3, (I don't know their time zone...) but they leave at 8 in the morning and get in at at the latest 12 noon. Now I'm guessing on the times.... But you get my drift. so 9pm is maybe midnight to them.... they are young college kids.... that is nothing to them. They stay up late and sleep in before the game... like kids do.

But it's no big deal... SC for one will need to go undefeated to even be considered.... Penn State or Ohio State, may not even be considered being undefeated... Look at Utah, BYU and Boise State.... just this year Utah beat Alabama (back in the bowl) and BYU beat Oklahoma... But the get no respect... and the PAC 10 gets no respect for playing those teams. when you look at the other conf's beating up on the MAC, and Sunbelt conf's

I'm just analyzing what I see.... Seriously, I don't care... If I can watch games like Miami and Florida State's game all year... I'll be happy... with the exception of also watching USC stomp on teams... will love that as well.
 Husker Freak

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Posted: 9/8/2009 4:56:12 PM
Ron Zook may be on the hot seat. Did they look unorganized and unprepared to play or what? Guy is a heck of a recruiter. Urban Meyer can attest to that. His coaching leaves a little to be desired.

No one's seat may be hotter than Al Groh's at Virginia. How do you get beat by William and Mary.

If you are looking for a new coach who is proven I would take a look at Brian Kelly at Cincinnati. They smoked Rutgers in their place on Sunday. This is with a defense that lost most of their starters from their BCS team last year.
 dennyden

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Posted: 9/9/2009 7:27:26 AM
The thing about ESPN isn't about who is the best or worst teams.... They have a contract with the SEC... It is beneficial for ESPN for the SEC to do well, because of that contract. They will show more SEC games than anyone else... because it's their contract... and in that contract with the SEC, they are aloud to bring their officials...

It is big ratings for ESPN if the SEC does well, so of course they are going to toot the SEC's horn....




jack, i ned to point out that cbs has the prime contract with the sec not espn. cbs gets the game of the week , espn gets second and the sec network gets the rest. also u said that penn state, usc and ohio st would all need to be undefeated to get considered, first that cant happen since they play one another, second didnt ohio state have a loss in 07 and play for the championship? is there something to espn wanting the sec to be good, i guess, just like mlb wants the yankees in the world series or the nfl wants brady or manning in the superbowl or like the rose bowl wants usc to play a virtual home game. also i dont think i ever said that i dont think a team like byu couldnt beat oklahoma ( and for the record i didnt think they would), its just the fact that they dont play many other people the rest of the year, thats always been my point.
 JackDiamond312

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Posted: 9/9/2009 12:57:30 PM
denny. this is what I said


SC for one will need to go undefeated to even be considered.... Penn State or Ohio State, may not even be considered being undefeated


I'm saying I think if there are one loss teams.... say one in the Big12 and one in the SEC.... USC doesn't have a chance unless they go undefeated.... and that OSU and Penn State still may not even be considered, even undefeated against a one loss Texas and one loss Florida.

BYU, UTAH or BOISE STATE undefeated don't get a chance at the championship, even when they beat the best teams in the country.

And that is because of the hype around not just their programs, but their conferences.... But, there is also a lot of hype around USC as well... these are all great programs.... But the PAC10 is always put down, even when a lower ranked PAC10 team does well against a ranked SEC team. Why is this? Two plays could have been a difference in the game with LSU and Washington... You don't hear anything about that.... But two plays that could have made a difference with the OSU/Navy game... is all over the news. A win is a win right? And South Carolina, wether you believe it or not was very close to losing that game... and it was at that no call.

Now I believe a win is a win.... But I also think if they are going to talk about stats... and how someone got out played, even though they won... they should consider it every where. Just keep an open mind and listen to the ESPN commentators.... You will see the bias.... And these things influence the polls, that influences everything else unfortunately.

You know, they say Barkley the true freshman... was protected and played it safe... that they didn't push him into doing anything to make any mistakes... and that it didn't really prove anything....

Do you know that he had better stats, if not the same as both Tebow and McCoy... and Barkley didn't throw any interceptions.
And San Jose State is just as good, if not better than the two teams Florida and Texas played.... San Jose State ranked high in several defensive categories last year ahead of most of the SEC teams... I'm not comparing San Jose State with the SEC, just with the two teams Florida and Texas played. USC's total stats were much better as well.... and the did play it safe... and simple, not really giving OSU much to look at on film.

Just saying.... We should just play the games... and keep all the BS commentary out of it.... You may not be noticing it... until it is directed towards Kiffin and tennessee.

Oh and denny... Kiffin has UCLA's number... it may be a little different but he knows Chow very good, and that UCLA defense. I think if he has the players... He will blow out UCLA...

I think I even remember watching the openings of the CBS games.... "ESPN on CBS"... But it doesn't matter if it is CBS or ESPN... for the most part, they are the same..... Like NBC and MSNBC... the same bias and the same desire of a successful SEC. They are paying the SEC around $205 million a year for the next 15 years......

If I owned or worked at CBS and ESPN.... I would want to push the SEC as well.


ESPN pays $2.25B for SEC rights
By MICHAEL SMITH and JOHN OURAND
Staff writers
Published August 25, 2008 : Page 01
ESPN will pay the Southeastern Conference a staggering $2.25 billion over the next 15 years — about $150 million a year — for the conference’s TV rights, giving the network all of the SEC’s content that was not taken by CBS, industry sources confirm.

The deal effectively ends any conversation of a conference network, and it knocks Raycom Sports (formerly Lincoln Financial and Jefferson Pilot) out of the SEC’s distribution business for the first time since 1986, when JP Sports began distributing SEC basketball.

Combined with the 15-year, $55 million a year that the SEC will receive from CBS for the over-the-air package of games (SportsBusiness Journal, Aug. 18-24), the conference will bring in an average of $205 million annually in media rights beginning in 2009-10 and running through fiscal 2025.

That’s nearly three times what the SEC had been receiving in TV revenue as part of its current deal, which runs out next spring. That amounted to around $70 million per year.


Now, they went into this contract because the SEC is competitive and good.... No doubt... But the schools get all this money and protection by the media... It is only going to help them... and hurt other conferences, by creating a disadvantage... especially in the media and polls
 MGMLION

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Posted: 9/9/2009 1:07:37 PM

Oh and denny... Kiffin has UCLA's number... it may be a little different but he knows Chow very good, and that UCLA defense. I think if he has the players... He will blow out UCLA...


Dennyden enjoy this weeks win but next week vols travel to Florida.

Your Gator Bait all next week

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 JackDiamond312

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Posted: 9/9/2009 1:37:29 PM

also i dont think i ever said that i dont think a team like byu couldnt beat oklahoma ( and for the record i didnt think they would), its just the fact that they dont play many other people the rest of the year, thats always been my point.


BYU plays Oklahoma, Florida State, TCU and UTAH { a top Big12 team, top ACC team and Utah who beat Alabama up
in last years bowl, and a TCU team who beat undefeated Boise State in their bowl last year}
Florida plays LSU, Georgia and Florida State {LSU barely got by Washington by 8, Georgia and FSU lost}
Texas plays Oklahoma, Mizz, Okla State, and Kansas {They play no one OOC and we will see how MIZZ and KU do?}
also
USC plays OSU, Cal, Oregon, Notre Dame & Oregon State { the only reason Oregon and Oregon State may not both be
ranked at the end of the year... is because everyone plays everyone.}

But I'm only making the point..... BYU does play someone other than Oklahoma.
Oh, and just think... Arizona beat BYU in it's Bowl game.... and Oregon State only lost by a missed extra point and missed field goal to Utah, at Utah.... the same team who killed Bama.

So, it isn't the conferences.... It's the match-ups and actually playing the games.

I admit... I do like analyzing all this... but at the end of the day... It's how these teams perform on any given day.
 fzrhusker

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Posted: 9/10/2009 1:15:21 AM
Texas Tech has 8 home games this year. The away games are gonna be tough ones but that crazy offense could pull off anything. That many home games pretty much guarantees them a bowl unless they completely implode.

2009-2010 SCHEDULE

Date Opponent / Event Location Time / Result
09/05/09 vs. North Dakota Lubbock, Texas W, 38-13
09/12/09 vs. Rice Lubbock, Texas 6:00 p.m. CT
09/19/09 at Texas TV Austin, Texas 7:00 p.m. CT
09/26/09 at Houston TV Houston, Texas 8:15 p.m. CT
10/03/09 vs. New Mexico TV Lubbock, Texas 2:30 p.m. CT
10/10/09 vs. Kansas State Lubbock, Texas TBA
10/17/09 at Nebraska Lincoln, Nebraska TBA
10/24/09 vs. Texas A&M Lubbock, Texas TBA
10/31/09 vs. Kansas Lubbock, Texas TBA
11/14/09 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Oklahoma TBA
11/21/09 vs. Oklahoma Lubbock, Texas TBA
11/28/09 vs. Baylor Arlington, Texas TBA
 dennyden

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Posted: 9/10/2009 5:11:23 AM
Now, they went into this contract because the SEC is competitive and good.... No doubt... But the schools get all this money and protection by the media... It is only going to help them... and hurt other conferences, by creating a disadvantage... especially in the media and polls



i guess you are just going to see it that way then, first i listened to tennessee get slamed all of last year, so it has been directed towards my vols. if u run a t.v. station what do u want ? the best show, well i guess they think the sec is the best conference, maybe thats just a good buisness choice, maybe u dont agree but the ratings say they are right. also i all know is that when u put a sec team into the bcs champ. game , they win, so its not like they get in year after year and lose can u say oklahoma and ohio state, maybe your beef should be with them and not the sec. also i doubt u have seen " espn on cbs" espn is part of abc not cbs, and abc doesnt have sec games. last thing i have listened to kiffin get blasted about the problems the program has had with " recuriting" , just like i heard about the r. bush pay off, seems fair to me. you are right barkley played well, most teams do try and protect true freshman, i dont think thats a knock, i just think its true in most cases.
 dennyden

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Posted: 9/10/2009 5:14:11 AM
Dennyden enjoy this weeks win but next week vols travel to Florida.

Your Gator Bait all next week



well i have to say you may be right about this, i will hold out hope, but i thnk we are in trouble next week. flordia is to us as the playoffs are to the cowboys, badnews,lol
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