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Posted: 9/18/2009 6:24:29 AM | Throw these teams into a conf and give them a BCS bid:
Utah
Brigham Young
Boise State
Texas Christian
Houston
Fresno State
Cincinnati
thats crazy, u would give a conf. with just 7 teams a bcs bid? besides 3 of the 7 you mention have just played in bcs games, so its not like its stacked against them. all they have to do is finish in the top 12 to have a shot at a bcs game. i get the fact that utah beat bama last year and byu beat o.u.this year, but to be frank when was the last time o.u. won a big game. anyway i never hear people make the agrument that if utah played in the sec that would still b undefeated, thats why i think its a bogus agrument to say utah got shafted last year.plus the pure geography wouldnt work, u cant have a team from ohio and cali. in the same conf. i think if anything just take away the big easts automatic bid and make that a at large bid. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 11:13:29 AM | Sure... I agree... Cinci... doesn't fit here.... They should stay in the Big East But.......
North
Utah
Brigham Young
Boise State
Air Force
Colorado State
Idaho
South
TCU
Houston
Fresno State
Tulsa
Nevada
San Jose State
This would be a tough conf. But it would weaken the MWC, WAC and Conf. USA
And denny... you only show an SEC bias to think Utah, BYU, TCU, Boise State and others couldn't compete in the SEC... sure they probably wouldn't go undefeated... But no team in the SEC can go undefeated... except for the rare exception.
Last year Utah won at Michigan, Oregon State (who beat USC), BYU (who killed UCLA-a team who has beaten Tenn, two years in a row), TCU (who ruined Boise States undefeated season in their bowl game) and then handedly beat Alabama (Undefeated in the SEC until they lost to the Champ... Florida) You can try and take credit away from them because they are not in your beloved SEC.... But you are mistaken...
Auburn didn't go bowling.... and LSU shouldn't have last year.... LSU was 3-5 in the SEC... the only reason they went to a bowl is because of that weak OOC... Appl State, Troy, No. Texas and Tulane. You go to a bowl by beating Auburn, Miss St and So. Carolina? to get to 7-5
Then they come and play a team who couldn't win a game last year and squeak by.... then beat Vandy.... and they are ranked 9th? wow... Lets see how long they last. They should have to prove themselves.... like Miami is doing, and Michigan as well. But I forgot... they're one of the elite... of the SEC | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 11:49:40 AM | | jack you are right, i do have a sec bias, but that doesnt mean that i dont see the rest of college footbal for what it is. first i dint say that those teams couldnt " compete" in the sec, i was just pointing out the fact that i think the utah got screwed last year is a bogus agrument, again just my opinion. i dont know how much it means to say utah won at mich. last year, the fact is who didnt? you also said that lsu played a weak ooc, then u said app state, well didnt app stae win at mich. also? iam not taking anything away from utah beating bama, thats a great and a huge victory for that program, i was just pointing out the fact that was bamas consulation game, again great for utah. aim sure if u look around all the differnt confs. , you will find teams that had under.500 records in there conf that went to bowl games, i dont no this but i would think that it happened maybe even teams in the pac10, again i dont know if it happened. also i dont know what utah beating or. state means when u follow it up by saying they beat usc, well penn state blew out or state but got beat by usc, so round and round it goes. also it pains me to say this, but i dont know how much it means when u point out the fact that ucla has beaten my vols 2 years in a row, we are pretty bad right now. any team from a major conf. that is 7-5 will go to a bowl game, even teams from the pac10, so i dont agree with you when u say lsu shouldnt have been in a bowl game. the fact is u have to fill slots and a team that travels well and is the defending nat. champs. seems like a good pick to me.no matter who that team is!!sure u can pick on lsu because they had a bad year last year, but come on man they have won 2 nat. championships in like the last 5 years.and in truely good conferences u are 1 bad or even not so great draft class from being 7-5. michigan is proving thereselfs, how by beating the most overrated program outhere? dont get me wrong i was really happy to see n.d. go down, but still. now miami on the otherhand , they look good so far. just ask yourself this what other program has won 2 nat. champs. in the last 5 years, oh wait just florida. wow to bad other conferences dont have these "elite" teams,lol. i dont know how long lsu will last, well atleast longer then the ducks did,lol. last thing u say no team in the sec go unbeaten, why do u think that is? why do u think there is a differnt winner so often, to me it says depth and some really good teams, thats why teams from the sec dont win 7 years in a row.in my eyes i think usc is a great program, i dont think they would win the sec 7 years in a row. to me that shows usc is the only really good ( or great) program in that conference, just my opinion. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 2:06:32 PM | Like you said.... talking about Or St.... beating SC, and getting killed by Penn State... and than SC beating Penn State.... It is a merry go round.... That's my point... even when the SEC and BIG 12 are thrown in.... The Natl. Champions are the winner of that one game... But who plays in that game is determined not by the play of those top teams.... But by the Polling system... Unless we have play offs, we are at the mercy of the BCS... and when they have a bias towards conf's. they feel are better.... That makes it unfair for any team that is not in one of those conf's.
Again... Don't get me wrong... I believe the SEC is a very strong conf... But because they may be the best conf.... doesn't mean they have the best team in the nation... But the reason the conf has been so successful in recent years... is because they have gone to the game... The pollsters have put them there. Did Florida deserve to be there last year? sure, but no more than SC, and did Oklahoma really deserve to go over Texas? I don't think so.... A winner of a Texas / SC game last year would have been just as deserving of the National title.... As well as Utah beating Alabama. I don't buy the fact that the SEC is so good... that the top team in that conf should be at least one of the teams in the Championship Game....
Guess what I'm saying is... the way it is... I don't think we will ever really know who the best team in the country is... until we have some sort of play off system.... Because right now... the bias polling system is whack. | |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 5:14:47 AM | Again... Don't get me wrong... I believe the SEC is a very strong conf... But because they may be the best conf.... doesn't mean they have the best team in the nation... But the reason the conf has been so successful in recent years... is because they have gone to the game
again i have to disagree with you, the reason that they have been so successful is not just beacuse they have gone to the game rather that they have won the game!! listen i agree that just because the sec is the best conference doesnt mean they have 1 of the top 2 teams, most of the times they do, but not always. like i have pointed out before just go ask auburn how they feel about going undefeated and not gettin to go play in the bcs, instead usc vs o.u. did. so are u telling me auburn was deserving? again i just point this out because you always talk about the bias, i think to a point you overblow it. also i dont think i ever said that the winner of the sec game should be in the bcs game. besides there are just as many years that the winner of the sec game didnt play in the bcs game. so i dont really even see how u say that. if u want to complain about being bias why dont you ask yourself how ohio state and o.u get in and always lose the game, again it goes back to the fact that when u put a sec team in they win, thats why they have been so successful, not just the fact that they get to play in the game. also i want to ask you this, so do u think all of usc nat. championships( before the bsc) are tainted since that was souley a voting system, and back then #1 didnt even have to play #2, so i guess by your logic u cant say that they where the best team in the nation those years since you didnt have a playoff system, because like you said until you have some sort of playoff system we will never know who the best team is. also i will point out that in half of usc's championships they where not unbeaten, also in 2003 when they got to share with the championship with lsu even no they didnt even play in the bcs bowl and lsu beat the #2 team o.u. and usc played a home game against a lower ranked team, but yet they still shared it, maybe the bias goes both ways | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 1:50:19 PM |
also in 2003 when they got to share with the championship with lsu even no they didnt even play in the bcs bowl and lsu beat the #2 team o.u. and usc played a home game against a lower ranked team, but yet they still shared it, maybe the bias goes both ways
First off LSU played in the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans... USC played in the Rose Bowl in LA... both are home games. and both were BCS games...
Here is some info on that year... the controversy was how the teams ended up in the BCS Championship in the first place... It was based on the computer... strength of sched and what not.... which is based on conf. bias... and oh yeah... the Big 12 is loved as well....
From Wikipedia
The 2003 NCAA Division I-A football season ended with an abundance of controversy, resulting in a split national championship.
At season's end, three major conference teams finished the regular season with one loss, with only two spots available in the BCS National Championship Game. Three non-BCS teams also finished with one loss, TCU, Boise State and Miami (OH), stirring the debate of the BCS being unfair to mid-major teams.
USC had lost a triple overtime thriller at California on September 27, LSU lost at home to Florida on October 11, and Oklahoma, which had been #1 in every BCS rating[1], AP and Coaches' Poll[2] of the season, however, had been shocked by Kansas State in the Big 12 Championship Game, 35-7 on December 6. USC finished #1 in both the AP and Coaches' Polls, while both USC and LSU fell short on several computer factors. Oklahoma's schedule strength was ranked 11th to LSU's 29th and USC's 37th. Oklahoma's schedule rank was 0.44 to LSU's 1.16 and USC's 1.48. As such, despite the timing of Oklahoma's loss affecting the human voters, the computers kept Oklahoma at #1 in the BCS poll, with LSU and USC being separated by only 0.16 points.
LSU defeated Oklahoma in the 2004 Sugar Bowl, securing the BCS National Championship, as the ESPN/USA Today Coaches' Poll is contractually obligated to vote the winner of the BCS National Championship Game #1. Meanwhile, when USC beat Michigan in the 2004 Rose Bowl, the majority of AP voters refused to drop their end-of-season #1 after the bowl win, and USC secured the AP title.
On January 9, 2003, Ted Waitt, CEO of Gateway Computers offered the NCAA $31 million for a national championship game between USC and Louisiana State. The NCAA did not consider the offer, leaving the year without an unarguable national champion.
The Home Depot Coach of the Year Award sponsored by ESPN chose USC coach Pete Carroll as their award recipient, while the Paul Bryant Coach of the Year Award, voted on by an association of sportswriters, chose LSU Coach Nick Saban.
The Orange Bowl game was noteworthy in that Miami and Florida State previously had scheduled to play each other on Labor Day in 2004. Playing in the Orange Bowl ensured that their next meeting would be each of their very next games and their first of the 2004 season.
Texas was also affected by the BCS controversy. Oklahoma's late loss kept Texas from appearing in one of the BCS games. Had Oklahoma won the Big 12 championship, the two at-large teams would have been Ohio State and Texas. But with the loss, Kansas State received the Big 12 bid and Oklahoma one of the at-large bids, leaving #5 Texas on the outside looking in. Texas lost to Washington State in the Holiday Bowl.
So USC was #1 in both the AP and Coaches polls, their loss was a triple overtime game "at" Cal. LSU lost at home to Florida and Oklahoma lost in the Big 12 Championship to K State.... BUT USC didn't get into the game because of this computer crap..... Because they don't want to give the PAC 10 any credit, creating a weaker sched. But notice how #5 Texas who felt robbed to go to an at large BCS game.... lost to lower ranked Washington State in San Diego.
Michigan won the Big10 and got beat by USC in the Rose Bowl, Ohio State got a BCS at large being #2 in the Big10 and beat the Big12 Champs K State in the Fiesta Bowl. Oklahoma State lost to Ole Miss in the Cotton Bowl in Dallas, And yes, Oklahoma lost to LSU in New Orleans.
Georgia barely beat Purdue in OT in the Capital One Bowl in Florida, Iowa beat Florida in the Outback Bowl in Florida, Arkansas beat Mizz in the Ind Bowl in Louisiana,
California beat a higher ranked Virg. Tech in the Insight Bowl in Arizona, Oregon lost to higher ranked Minnesota 30-31 at the Sun Bowl in Texas. Oregon State (fav. by 2) beat New Mexico 55-14 in the Las Vegas Bowl, UCLA lost to Fresno State
Oklahoma was said to have a tougher sched... this is why they were ranked ahead of USC (who was #1 in both AP and Coaches polls) yet.... BCS #1Oklahoma, K State, #5 Texas, Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma State all lost their Bowl Games. Nebraska & Texas Tech won their games... both played in Texas.
The Big12 went 2-6
PAC10 went 4-2
BIG10 went 3-5
SEC went 5-2
My bias comments are not about teams... It is about conf's. I believe there are teams/programs that have history and get a certain bias... even in the years they struggle... USC is one of them... even Notre Dame, Ohio State and Oklahoma... it includes Texas... even as of late... Mizz and Kansas (because of the conf)
Notice a 3-0 UCLA who beat Tenn at Tenn... is not ranked.... where Kansas and Mizz are or have been.
But besides all that.... My point was that we need a play-off system.... Not because I think USC is getting screwed.... But I believe there are teams out there that are. Actually... I'm a huge SC fan... and will rout for them every game.... But I am worried about at Cal, at Oregon and at Notre Dame..... They better fix the QB situation or have at least 3 losses this year.
And I'm not saying that because of the Washington loss.... I was worried about them before... Like I said earlier... They gave LSU a great game... only lost that by two plays... So Washington may be playing a big bowl game this year I think... The PAC10 will come down to Cal and USC I think with Washington and maybe Oregon in the mix. Washington will find themselves in the top 4 of the PAC 10
But I still believe Florida and Texas should go undefeated... and will play in the Championship.... Both teams didn't look all that great this last weekend... at home... But I can't see anyone knocking them off, except themselves. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 2:34:48 PM | | jack, u make some intresting points, but i think u miss my bottom line point, its not that iam saying usc didnt deserve a share at all, its just that iam making the case that anyone could make a case for bias. look now u say thats its not teams that they favor rather its conferences, well usc is the pac 10, thats all they have had in the last 20 years or so, are there some other good teams, yes with out a doubt. about ucla, should they be ranked, i dont see why not, i would think at this point they should be. but you could counter that with maybe the ducks shouldnt have been ranked that high, who nows at this point. look say usc goes 6 and 6 this year, do u think a bowl game will take them? of course they would, its usc, now thats the same point you made about lsu last year, but they where 7-5, so again is that the same bias? also wash. went from unranked to i dont no where but they are ranked, this is a team who didnt win a game last year, and usc didnt even play well, congrats wash. but the pointr iam making is that u could make a case for bias there, again iam not saying they dont belong , but iam sure there is some team out there that thinks they should be ranked instead, maybe a small school that thinks well there only ranked because they play in the pac10, again i guess its in the eye of the beholder. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 3:36:42 PM | Hey... I think Washington will be a 100 times better than they were last year... oh wait.... They already are... I don't believe they should be ranked by beating USC.... And I don't think that UCLA will be ranked at the end of the year....
But look at the top 7.... and look at who they played.... Florida, Alabama, Ole Miss and LSU are in that bunch 4 out of 7... so of course when Florida plays any SEC team... They get that bias of ranked teams....
It's the system... and I know, that LSU-Ole Miss- and Alabama won't all last... and Florida only plays LSU.... We still have a ton of games......
Look at Oregon.... They had a lousy game at their opener at#8 Boise State....but that game was 19-8... a strange score for both teams... It was an ugly game. But they are 2-1... and beat a Big10 team Purdue and an (undefeated and winner of Alabama last year #2) Utah.... Not even to be mentioned.... now with so many other 2-1 teams.... But hey... I think they shot themselves in the foot just like SC.
Kansas beat No. Col, Utep and Duke.... they are 3-0 by beating those power houses..... at least UCLA went into Tennessee and won there.... and I will say, played them almost as good as Florida. There is a difference Florida had Tenn in the swamp, and only beat them by 5 more points than UCLA.... And UCLA isn't looking consistent either on offense... just like USC.
But Ole Miss at #4 by only beating Memphis and Southeastern Louisiana? Again... It's early... so things will change....
But.... it's all fun to watch and talk about.
I will say.... USC better solve this QB thing.... or it will get ugly in a hurry. They have only Saturday to solve this. then they are in a world of hurt. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2009 7:01:12 AM | It's the system... and I know, that LSU-Ole Miss- and Alabama won't all last... and Florida only plays LSU.... We still have a ton of games......
the gators still play lsu , georiga and fl. state ( by the way who blew out byu at byu) so take its for whats its worth. also you mention oregon beating purdue, well didnt purdue just get beat by that powerhouse Northern Illinois? i have a question, u seem to always make the point that these major confs. schools are overrated ( or ranked higher then they should be) because of the bias towards the confs. they play in, but yet when a non major conf. team beats them you are quick to point it out, well doesnt that counter your own point that these schools are just overrated? it gets to the point that it seems that u dont think any team should be in the top ten. also i know u love to say there bias and thats how teams get in, well here is a list of teams that have got in by there confs
CONFRENCE ( apperances ) ( record in the bcs champ. game)
pac10 2 1-1
big10 3 1-2
big12 6 2-4
acc 3 1-2
big east 3 1-2
sec 5 5-0
also for the record, that big east is miami and v.t., i know there not in it anymore but thats where they were when they did play it it. also i only put 2 for the pac10 but i could have put 3 since usc split the championship with lsu but i didnt. anyway i dont see by these numbers how you say the sec gets the bias, i mean they are the only conf. with a winning record and i wont talk about how they are unbeaten in the big game. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2009 10:23:45 AM | "At Georgia Southern, we don't cheat. That costs money and we don't
have any."
Erk Russell / Georgia Southern.
"Football is only a game. Spiritual things are eternal.
Nevertheless, Beat Texas."
Seen on a church sign in Arkansas prior to the 1969 game.
"After you retire, there's only one big event left....and I ain't
ready for that."
Bobby Bowden / Florida State
"The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to
be the one who dropped it."
Lou Holtz / Arkansas
"When you win, nothing hurts."
Joe Namath / Alabama
"Motivation is simple. You eliminate those who are not motivated."
Lou Holtz / Arkansas
"If you want to walk the heavenly streets of gold, you gotta know
the password, "Roll, tide, roll!"
Bear Bryant / Alabama
"A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a
medieval study hall."
Frank Leahy / Notre Dame
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell
kicked out of you."
Woody Hayes / Ohio State
"I don't expect to win enough games to be put on NCAA probation. I
just want to win enough to warrant an investigation."
Bob Devaney / Nebraska
"In Alabama, an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in Bear Bryant."
Wally Butts / Georgia
"You can learn more character on the two-yard line than anywhere
else in life."
Paul Dietzel / LSU
It's kind of hard to rally around a math class."
Bear Bryant / Alabama
When asked if Fayetteville was the end of the world.
"No, but you can see it from here."
Lou Holtz / Arkansas...
"I make my practices real hard because if a player is a quitter, I
want him to quit in practice, not in a game."
Bear Bryant / Alabama
"There's one sure way to stop us from scoring-give us the ball near
the goal line."
Matty Bell / SMU
"Lads,you're not to miss practice unless your parents died or you died."
Frank Leahy / Notre Dame
"I never graduated from Iowa, but I was only there for two terms
Truman's and Eisenhower's."
Alex Karras / Iowa
"My advice to defensive players: Take the shortest route to the ball
and arrive in a bad humor."
Bowden Wyatt / Tennessee
I could have been a Rhodes Scholar, except for my grades."
Duffy Daugherty / Michigan State
"Always remember ..... Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David."
Shug Jordan / Auburn
"They cut us up like boarding house pie. And that's real small pieces."
Darrell Royal / Texas
"Show me a good and gracious loser, and I'll show you a failure."
Knute Rockne / Notre Dame
"They whipped us like a tied up goat."
Spike Dykes / Texas Tech
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he
didn't recruit me and he said: "Well,Walt, we took a look at you
and you weren't any good."
Walt Garrison / Oklahoma State
"Son, you've got a good engine, but your hands aren't on the
steering wheel."
Bobby Bowden / Florida State
"Football is not a contact sport - it is a collision sport. Dancing
is a contact sport."
Duffy Daugherty / Michigan State
After USC lost 51-0 to Notre Dame, his post game message to his team:
"All those who need showers, take them."
John McKay / USC
"If lessons are learned in defeat, our team is getting a great
education."
Murray Warmath / Minnesota
"The only qualifications for a lineman are to be big and dumb.
To be a back, you only have to be dumb."
Knute Rockne / Notre Dame
"Oh, we played about like three tons of buzzard puke this afternoon."
Spike Dykes / Texas Tech
"It isn't necessary to see a good tackle. You can hear it."
Knute Rockne / Notre Dame
"We live one day at a time and scratch where it itches."
Darrell Royal / Texas
"We didn't tackle well today but we made up for it by not blocking."
John McKay / USC
"Three things can happen when you throw the ball, and two of them
are bad ."
Darrell Royal / University of Texas
"I've found that prayers work best when you have big players."
Knute Rockne / Notre Dame
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble
this football"
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Posted: 9/23/2009 11:16:29 AM | denny, I don't think you have been following me..... And I know I haven't been very clear on this.... But it is a playoff system that I believe we need... Sure I keep talking about biases... but I will say this is only a feeling I get... I'm actually spending too much time explaining that rather than just talking about why I think this current system doesn't work to really find out who the best team is... every other sport has a playoff in some sort to determine the best.
Here is something to look at.... talking about you figures above... Sure it only shows the two SC games, their loss to Texas and their win against Oklahoma.... But their split with LSU in 2003.... USC should have been in that game... perhaps against LSU... but they should have been there... that was the problem that year....
And in 2001, Oregon should have been there over Nebraska... But when ever there is a choice between Big12, SEC and PAC10... the PAC10 has been screwed...
My comments are not who were in those games and who won.... But who gets invited and why? And if it is only that one game to determine the National Champion... It isn't fair to all teams... and so far there has been an SEC/Big12 bias.... just look at the controversies.... and I just gave two reasons for the PAC10... but there are other reasons others have been looked over so Big12 or SEC teams can go.... The Big10 has had some bias as well I think... but, there is this invisible force that could be resolved by having a playoff system.
Just so you know as well, I'm an SC fan... So I look at it from my point of view.... There are many other fans of their schools and conf's that can show cases for the same thing.....
Have a Play-off
Since the formation of the Bowl Championship Series, there have been several controversies regarding the selection of the participating teams. Most notably, following the 2003 season, the BCS ranking system excluded Associated Press #1 University of Southern California from the National Championship Game (the Nokia Sugar Bowl). The following season, in 2004, undefeated Auburn University, Boise State University and University of Utah teams were left out of the National Championship Game (the FedEx Orange Bowl), although the participating teams were undefeated as well. In 2001, Oregon, second ranked in the AP poll, was bypassed in favor of Nebraska despite Nebraska's blowout loss in its final regular season game. Most recently, in 2008, the University of Utah was excluded from the BCS championship for a second time despite being the only undefeated Division I-A team at the end of the season and finished second behind 13-1 Florida. Despite these controversies, since the inauguration of the BCS National Championship Game, to date only the 2003-2004 season resulted in a split national championship, when USC won the Associated Press national championship. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2009 11:29:41 AM | | i got ya jack, but the point is even thats not a flawless system, u will have the same complaints then as well, example so a 2 loss gators team gets in over a unbeaten utah or boise state or even a 1 loss team like byu. again people will be saying the same thing, that the gators got in because they are in the sec. again iam going to make the case thats its unfair for teams that play in the big confs. compared to teams like tcu, who i dont think beat a ranked team all last year. and then say you have a 8-4 lsu team beat a 11-1 tennesee team ( wishfull thinking,lol) in the sec champ. game, well u cant leave out lsu from the playoffs, they won the best conf. in america and u cant leave out tenn. who went 11 and 1 in the reg. season, so in my eyes people will always have a complaint. if u have a 8 team playoff, u no who cares that they dont get in? #9 and some years that number 9 team could beat everyone else, say something happens like there qb down and comes back in the last game, well say the people who vote that 9th team ahead of that 8th because they think they have a better chance to win, well then people will cry bias then also. iam not saying a playoff wont work, but ima sorry its not a prefect soultion. and the other thing would have to happen is non bcs conf. schools would have to play bcs conf schools in there outta conf. sch. games. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 1:39:36 PM | | Are the Houston Cougars and Case Keenum for real? They have beaten two ranked teams,Oklahoma State and Texas Tech..... | |
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Posted: 9/28/2009 4:49:40 PM | | Sumlin (Houston) and Kelly (Cincinnati) might be on some short lists at the end of the year. | |
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Posted: 9/29/2009 9:22:12 PM |
thats crazy, u would give a conf. with just 7 teams a bcs bid? The Big East only has 8 football schools, and they get an automatic bid...if I were emperor for a day, I'd align all the D-1 schools into 7 conferences of about 16 teams each, then use the BCS New Years Bowls as the "Elite Eight" for a playoff system: 7 conf. winners plus one "at large" or something like that... | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 5:37:18 PM | | I think the NCAA needs to think about not having a preseason poll. Matter of fact I would be in favor of not ranking anyone until about Mid October. At that point I fell that the contenders will start to seperate themselves from the pretenders. | |
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Posted: 10/7/2009 11:42:00 AM | | i think it would end some of the debate but not all, look at the end of the season it will still come down to say a 3 or 4 lose say alabama or auburn team getting in over a 1 lose i dont know say a tcu or some team like that. that small school is going to say they got robbed because they took a sec team. so nobody cares whos number 17, except that team that is ranked 17th, and the filp side of that is say a 1 or a 2 lose team like cinncy gets in over a 2 or 3 lose alabama, cinncy doesnt play in a good conf at all. the only reason people think 1aa playoffs work so well is because not many people follow it, just to point it out there where 3 or 4 teams that ended up with 5 loses last year in the top 15 rankings, is that what 1a is going to come to.iam not saying it wont work, iam just pointing out that its not with out its own flaws, for better or worse , i love that every game means so much in the reg. season. last point, iam a vols fans ( i know we suck) but say something weird happens, and the west is really weak and say a 4 or 5 lose lsu plays a 1 gators and beats them, u have to put lsu in the playoffs they won the best conf. in the land, so there u have a 4 or 5 lose team getting in over a differnt team that may only have 1 or 2 loses, it could happen, i knowits not likely but it could happen, for example when lsu won there second nat. championship they went a played a tenn. team that had 3 or 4 loses going into that sec championship game. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2009 8:59:38 PM | JWill, i beg to differ. Florida defense is definately not the best seen. . The only reason they looked so good against LSU is b/c of our POS quarterback. He cant get rid of the ball fast enough, doesn't step up in the pocket, and rarely runs the ball when no ones open. AND....Costly penalties is the only thing that kept the offensive drives going for FL. Thats really the only reason they won the game. I guess they are #1. Take a look at their schedule.  . The only good teams they play are LSU, Arkansas, and Georgia. LSU on the other hand, has one of the toughest schedules (if not the toughest) in the SEC. Reminds me of USC. Those little boys play a bunch of garbage teams in the pac 10 and somehow are high ranked every year. They lose to Washington and are still ranked good . Oh and Tebow is definately over-rated. He may look good now in college ball, but i can't wait to see his ass get stuffed in the NFL. He tries rushing the ball that much against the elite players in the NFL and his career will be over in a few years. Pretty boy is gonna get hurt real quick like. 
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Posted: 10/14/2009 10:04:16 AM | Oh and Tebow is definately over-rated. He may look good now in college ball, but i can't wait to see his ass get stuffed in the NFL.
thats just plain non sense, look iam a vols fan so it pains me to the core that the gators are so good, but tebow is one of the best college players ever, is he going to do anything in the pros? i dont know, but the point is one has nothing to do with the other. iam sure he wont do any worse then say jamarcus russell, take a look at archie griffen, do u think the only player 2 win 2 heismans was overrated? that guy only ran for less then 3000 yards in his nfl career. look i hate the gators as well, but that alone doesnt make those statements that u have said true. the fact is they came to your house and beat you, u can make any reason u want to, but they beat you guys at home. they beat my vols as well, but atleast i understand they beat us because they are a better team then us right now. but i think this started with s greatest d ever, i dont think they are the best ever, but they are really good. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 1:27:13 PM | The idea that Tebow won't play in the next level is silly... It is a wait and see... mainly it will decide a lot on which team picks him up and their program. Other quarter backs like him have struggled... Jamarcus Russell is a good example... but he is on the Oakland Raiders.... That has to do a lot with it. Look at Vince Young? The problem with tebow in the next level is that he is more of a power runner, not a speed guy like Vick. The NFL is set up for in the pocket, pro style QB's who can get out and move when needed. Like Sanchez... He is a very good QB, but it didn't hurt he went to the Jets who can protect him. I'm sure some team will find a way to use Tebow's talent... if he is fortunate to get onto one of those teams... and not someone like Oakland or Saint Louis.
Now as far as USC.... and the PAC10... You can make the argument that the SEC has more powerful and at the top of that conf. is always talented teams... Florida and Alabama will be hard to beat this year... by anyone... It was the same last year, until Utah came in and beat Bama. The issue some have, especially those from the Pac10 is that we play everyone, if you have 3 good teams... 2 will at least have 1 loss... in the SEC you don't play everyone.. as well as the Big12...
As far as Washington playing USC and beating them.... USC struggles more on the road in the PAC 10 than in any other conf. USC was worried about that match-up even before the starting quarterback couldn't play... and even he, as a true freshman is a bit scary... great quarterback.. but still needs to play games and prove himself... It may not be until next year. But you have to know, Washington didn't win a game last year... their new coaches are from USC on both sides of the ball... LSU beat them with Washington fumbling twice... in the red zone as they were scoring... Not an excuse, and LSU won that game... But Washington was no push over.... UCLA beat Tennessee at Tennessee... as good as Florida beat Tennessee at Florida... "UCLA" did... And Arizona State missed two field goals that either would have won them the game against Georgia at Georgia.
Now, I'm not saying the Pac10 got screwed.. or should have won... they didn't they went 1-2 with the SEC... but every team from the Pac10 was a lesser team in the conf. than the SEC teams... and they played with them... two of those games in the SEC stadiums.
So my point.... It's really silly to call the Pac10 a weak ass conf. and playing the smaller kids. USC won at Ohio State and at Cal... This week at Notre Dame will be a big challenge for Barkley. and then again on the road to Oregon.
USC's defense is strong... The offense needs to improve... Sanchez was expected to be the leader... Now it's a freshman. By the way... If you noticed, the SEC transferred QB who won 7 games in the SEC at Arkansas is third on the depth chart... But I will say... I would like to see Mustain given a chance over Corp. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 2:49:38 PM |
Oh and Tebow is definately over-rated. He may look good now in college ball, but i can't wait to see his ass get stuffed in the NFL.
Tebow would look pretty good wearing the orange colored Dolphin Jersey and running that wildcat offense. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2009 11:28:49 PM | The only problem with the Dolphins wildcat though.... is that it's pretty crowded.... and already successful.... why mess that up with Tebow?
He needs a team that wants to run the wildcat more and needs help. More and more teams are going in that direction... so you never know? | |
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Posted: 10/16/2009 8:20:58 AM | the way... If you noticed, the SEC transferred QB who won 7 games in the SEC at Arkansas is third on the depth chart...
wasnt d. mcfadden and felix jones on that team as well? playing with those 2 , iam sure that had alot to do with those 7 wins!!!! | |
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