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 extrememale2004

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Posted: 10/16/2009 8:59:51 AM
LSU is not good this year because the offense can't move the ball and the defense is not all that great. The Gators defense is not overrated they just make big plays when needed and knock the lights out of people. I am a Southern Cal fan and they just reload and will always lose one game in their league but will be the teams in the games that really matter. Tebow to me is not overrated he just has accomplished alot on the field and off the football field and to me Tebow calling might not be playing in the NFL. Take care now.
 HDready09

Joined: 3/13/2009
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Posted: 10/17/2009 9:56:37 AM
over 92,ooo at texas and oklahoma today on local teli.the brutal pre-game was an hour of hanna montanna
 StraightUpOriginal

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Posted: 10/18/2009 3:28:10 PM
Florida barely squeeks by Arkansas. And of course another free hand me game just like the LSU one.
 MGMLION

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Posted: 10/18/2009 4:38:05 PM

Florida barely squeeks by Arkansas. And of course another free hand me game just like the LSU one.


How was the LSU game a free hand me game against Florida?
LSU only scored 3 points the whole game and never even had the lead.
 StraightUpOriginal

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Posted: 10/18/2009 5:35:40 PM
Hmmm...lets see. Bad calls and junk penalties is the only thing that kept the offensive drives going for FL.
 MGMLION

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Posted: 10/18/2009 6:04:08 PM

Hmmm...lets see. Bad calls and junk penalties is the only thing that kept the offensive drives going for FL.


Recap of the Florida / LSU game.

Total yards Florida had 327 LSU had 162
Penalties Florida penalized 6 times for 45 yards LSU penalized 9 times 64 yards
Time of Possession Florida kept the ball 36:30 LSU kept the ball 23:30
Final score Florida 13 LSU 3
 StraightUpOriginal

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Posted: 10/18/2009 11:49:47 PM
MGM, doesnt matter if LSU was penalized 2 times if the penalties were at crucial times and resulted in free first downs/TDs which kept the drive alive after the defensive stops resulting in FL scoring off of bad calls and BS penalties. Quite a few times on 3rd down LSU would get the stop....but of course a flag would appear. So FL was handed a free first down and able to maintain posession of LSUs ball. The majority of LSUs penalities were very costly and FL feed off of our mistakes. Had there been no mistakes for LSU, atleast not at crucial times, the FL leeches wouldnt of been able to get chit going offensively. Ahh did i say mistakes, i mean if the Refs wernt wearing FL jerseys under their stripes. Thats what i'm saying! Like i said, they have a relatively easy schedule and are winning games off of luck and others mistaks. I'm not impressed at all by the way they are playing this year and they don't deserve to be #1.
 MGMLION

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Posted: 10/19/2009 5:29:38 AM

Ahh did i say mistakes, i mean if the Refs wernt wearing FL jerseys under their stripes.


The game was played in LSU's own back yard.
 StraightUpOriginal

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Posted: 10/19/2009 10:25:10 AM
Let it rest boy. FL shouldnt of won the game to LSU or Arkansas. They not really that good. And yes, the refs could of been natives of FL. No telling where those germs came from to contaminate our field. . Hopefully GA will get their mind right and stomp the piss outta FL. Or maybe Miss St can pull out an upset. lol. I'd like to see FL and Alabama play really. Its a shame their little easy breezy schedule doesnt include em.
 MGMLION

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Posted: 10/19/2009 3:15:05 PM
I'd like to see FL and Alabama play really.


We'll get to see both of these teams play each other on the first Saturday of December in the Georgia Dome in Atlanta, Georgia for the SEC Championship. We have a date but don't tell shoochie.
 JackDiamond312

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Posted: 10/19/2009 6:04:38 PM
It cracks me up.... USC is 4th in the AP and 4th in the coaches.... But now bring in the BCS and they are 7th.


Season is still young.......
 StraightUpOriginal

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Posted: 10/20/2009 6:19:18 PM
Yeah, that would be a really good game. Count me in. I'm just not sure yet whats gonna happen when LSU beats Bama and FL loses the next 4 games
 alan_50501

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Posted: 10/20/2009 10:02:37 PM
how bout them hawkeyes!!!! 7-0 baby!
 StraightUpOriginal

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Posted: 10/25/2009 11:13:10 PM
MCM, Dnt know if you read the paper and heard about the situation with the Refs in the SEC. Exactly what i was talking about in earlier posts. They have been making bad calls!!!! They really screwed Arkansas and caused them to lose the game against FL. Same happened in the LSU and FL game. Although those calls arent listed, but helped FL to get their ONLY TD of the game. LSU got a favorable call in the GA game too, but it was negated by other bad calls against them. FL is not worthy of the #1 spot PERIOD! Like i said, they should of lost to LSU and Arkansas.....the only two good teams they've played. For awhile there, it wasnt looking too good for the FL Leeches in the Miss St game Saturday either. Typically i would pull for an SEC team anyday over another, but if FL makes it to the BCS championship game, i hope they get their azzes handed to em. There will be no cheat calls to help them win. They deserved to be #1 last year, but definately not this year. Check out the bad calls
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Burned-twice-SEC-puts-wayward-officials-on-ice?urn=ncaaf,197472
 Meh2k

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Posted: 10/26/2009 8:11:48 AM
I don't know how anyone can Justify USC being ahead of undefeated TCU, BSU and Cincinnati in the latest BCS ranking. They're the best 1 loss team in the country but until some of the undefeated teams lose a game they should not be ahead of them
 StraightUpOriginal

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Posted: 10/26/2009 11:24:30 AM
USC doesnt even deserve to be in the top 10. Atleast LSU lost to a quality team. USC lost to Washington. A team with ZERO wins last year . I thought i hated FL this year! USC is my worst enemy. Somehow they get high poll ratings every year. They don't play anybody. My goodness! Talkin about an easy schedule. Not just that. Not much competition in their conference. I would LOVE to see USC come to the SEC one year and play 12 games in our conference. We would see then who can actually play some football!
 dennyden

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Posted: 10/26/2009 12:32:34 PM
as much as i agree with you about usc conference not being as good as the sec, i do need to point out that sec teams dont play 12 sec games either, they play 8 or 9 with 3 or 4 outta conference games. i do agree that usc wouldnt dominate the sec the way it does the pac10. but they do deserve to b in the top10.
 StraightUpOriginal

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Posted: 10/26/2009 12:48:32 PM
Denny, wow its you! Thought i seen you on ESPN commentating. . I would like you to autography my football . I never realized that and i have the SEC football schedule posted to the wall right in front of me as well speak. lol. Im being smart-ass obviously ;-) .Should i have said for USC to come to the SEC conference and play 8 games . I think refering to the whole schedule sounds better. A season does consist of 12 games aye. 8 intra-conference+4strangers=12games in the SEC which is equivalent to an SEC football schedule. Thanks for your help. I was wondering why we played Washington the first game of the season.
 MGMLION

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Posted: 10/26/2009 1:29:01 PM

They really screwed Arkansas and caused them to lose the game against FL. Same happened in the LSU and FL game.


Arkansas did get screwed against Florida a couple of times could have possibly cost them the game. But the LSU / Fla game, don't blame the refs, LSU couldn't do nothing offensively and if you don't score you can't win.
 extrememale2004

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Posted: 10/26/2009 2:13:57 PM
I think this season is intersting and it will be interesting to me what TCU and Bosie State for the rest of the season and USC always lose a Pac 10 game but they are going to win the rest of their games.
 JackDiamond312

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Posted: 10/26/2009 2:26:44 PM
Hey Straightup... your love of the SEC and knock of USC is not very original....Just kidding.... It just so happens that I think most people east of the Rockies feel that way about the PAC10 and MWC... as well the WAC

If SC dominated the PAC10 they wouldn't keep losing to teams like Oregon State, Stanford. UCLA and Washington. By the way.... Your LSU team squeaked by Washington it's self.... all the breaks went LSU's way in that game.... And two things... Washington who went winless last season isn't the same Washington this year... Their coaches were SC's Off & Def coordinators last season.... It was going to be tough enough going in there to win... let alone not have the starting QB.

SC has a new D... only 3 starters returned.... a big one Taylor Mays... Check out how many SC's D went early in last years draft.... as well as the QB (Sanchez) we were hoping for his senior year. Carroll didn't want Sanchez to return because he thought he wasn't goo enough for the NFL... He knew the QB situation was going to be difficult with Corp and Mustain... Fortunately Barkley has stepped up.

Now, let me say... I am not now, and never have said SC would walk through the SEC... But They would be just as competitive as Florida, Bama, LSU and any other team.

You want to say how bad the PAC10 is.... LSU only beat Washington by 8... I give them props for going into Washington and winning... It's tough there.... But they needed Washington coughing up the ball twice on the goal line to do it. And Arizona State missed 2 Field Goals to lose to Georgia at Georgia by only 3.... UCLA beat Tennessee at Tennessee as good as Florida did at Florida. If you want to go by win/loss.... SEC won that 2 to 1... But they were lesser PAC10 teams playing better SEC Teams. and the games were close.... playing two in the SEC stadiums.... I'm only saying.... If you really follow football... You would know the conf's compete a lot closer than this craziness you SEC fans want to keep pushing.

You can hate on SC... But with what they have had to play with this year... in their injuries and everything else.... This true Freshman Barkley... and the retooled D has played some tough away games.... and they have another one... probably their toughest on Sat. against Oregon... It could be a blow out if SC Hasn't improved enough with Barkley.

Yes... They got beat by Washington... by a last min. field goal, playing a hurt second string QB (Corp) the whole game.... So yes... They are at this point not the best team in the country.... But if Barkley keeps improving... by the end of the season... they could be the hardest team in the country to beat.

Bama... and Florida.... even Texas.... for the most part have been lucky and squeaking by.... with All American senior QB's and most of their team returning.

This is a rebuilding year for SC... They have seniors in def. backs... and the Off. Line... But other than that most return next year.
 dennyden

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Posted: 10/26/2009 3:01:41 PM
^^ we will just have to agree to disagree, i dont think the pac10 is a good as the sec, i dont think the pac10 sucks at all ijust dont think they are as good. usc dominates because there are no other really good teams sure the lose a game here and there but the fact is the have won how many pac10 championships in a row, thats not because they are that great of program, its because they just dont have the depth like the sec does. that lsu fan just seems bitter, she complains about the call the gators got, with that offense lsu was not going to beat them anyway. i dont see her crying about alabama not getting called for taking his helment off and throwing it while the ball was still alive, that should have been called but it wasnt, so does that mean there in alabamas pocket as well. iam sure if go back and look at any teams championship run they called calls that helped them, its just the ways it goes. again my point is not that usc isnt a good team, they are, iam just saying they wouldnt win the sec year after year like they do in the pac10, theres a reason for that.
 JackDiamond312

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Posted: 10/26/2009 4:19:35 PM
denny.... I have no problem with disagreeing... It's to be expected....

The thing is you keep comparing this by the BCS Championship.... There are only two teams..... (Invited) to that Game. And it is always a discussion of the winners of the SEC and Big12 Championship games if they go undefeated. So the Pac10 and Big10 are at a disadvantage.... Even the ACC if going undefeated and winning their Championship Game has an advantage over the Pac10, Big10 and BigEast. The MWC and WAC and others that go undefeated aren't even discussed unless the other top teams have 2 losses. Sure they will jump into a BCS game... but not the Championship Game.

The other thing you keep talking about is the Pac10 Champions.... SC under Carroll has had co-champions, 3 out of his 7 years... Oregon, Cal, UCLA, Arizona State and even Washington has had their runs... Heck, Carrolls first year... Oregon was the Pac10 Champs.

Pac10 Champs Since 1990, and since we play everyone... we have co-champs..... we are talking the competition right?
1990
Washington 7-1

1991
Washington 8-0

1992
Stanford 6-2
Washington 6-2

1993
Arizona 6-2
Southern California 6-2
UCLA 6-2

1994
Oregon 7-1

1995
Southern California 6-1-1
Washington 6-1-1

1996
Arizona St. 8-0

1997
UCLA 7-1
Washington St. 7-1

1998
UCLA 8-0

1999
Stanford 7-1

2000
Oregon 7-1
Oregon St. 7-1
Washington 7-1

2001
Oregon 7-1

2002
Southern California 7-1
Washington St. 7-1

2003
Southern California 7-1

2004
Southern California 8-0

2005
Southern California 8-0

2006
Southern California 7-2
California 7-2

2007
Southern California 7-2
Arizona State 7-2

2008
Southern California 8-1

So based on who won to go to the Rose Bowl... It was
Washington
Washington
Stanford
Arizona
Oregon
SC
Arizona State
UCLA
UCLA
Stanford
Oregon
Oregon
SC
SC
SC
SC
SC
SC
SC

All 10 teams were at least Co-Champs since 1990... 7 teams were Champs based on breaking a tie. Yes, Pete Carroll's teams have dominated at the top as of late.

The SEC Champs since 1990

1990 - Tennessee
1991 - Florida
1992 - Alabama (Arkansas and South Carolina join; championship game starts.)
1993 - Florida
1994 - Florida
1995 - Florida
1996 - Florida
1997 - Tennessee
1998 - Tennessee
1999 - Alabama
2000 - Florida
2001 - LSU
2002 - Georgia
2003 - LSU
2004 - Auburn
2005 - Georgia
2006 - Florida
2007 - LSU
2008 - Florida

So... what do we have? Only half of the 12 teams have won... 6 different teams. Auburn 1, Georgia 2, Bama 2, LSU 3, Tenn 3, and Florida 8 times.... To me it looks like when you look back for the past 20 years... Florida has been dominating... and the bottom half has not competed. And as of late... It is only Florida, LSU and Georgia... and you can break it down to your div. Champ's... but still you won't find Miss State, Arkansas, Vandy, Kentucky, Ole Miss or South Carolina... with the exception of Arkansas showing up a few times.

But thats like Oregon State, Washington State and Cal not being an outright winner in the past 20 years.
 dennyden

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Posted: 10/27/2009 3:24:41 AM
^^^ well jack that is intresting, but you know the pac10 could just play a championship game and get rid of that whole c0-champ thing, theres a idea. as far as the big east goes ( now) well they should be at a disadvantage, thats the worst conference out there now. as far as the big10 goes, who many times have ohio state been in the game. as far as the acc, well how many times have fsu been in the game. look you make a good point about usc having some comp. in the pac10 again iam not saying the pac10 sucks, i hope u under stand that. so u say the gators have dominated the sec is the last 20 years, ok fine lets take the gators and usc outta the conversation. name the other pac10 teams that have won a nat. championship in that same time. theres one team, thats its. in the sec there have been 3 and and 2 of them 3 have won more then once.and also dont forget about auburn who went undefeated and didnt get anything, just thought i would throw that out there
 JackDiamond312

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Posted: 10/27/2009 10:55:27 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_National_Football_Championship
School Championships Seasons
Notre Dame 12 1924, 1929, 1930, 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1953, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988
Alabama 11 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992
USC 10 1928, 1931, 1932, 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974, 1978, 2003, 2004
Michigan 7 1901, 1902, 1923, 1933, 1947, 1948, 1997
Oklahoma 7 1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000
Minnesota 6 1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960
Pittsburgh 6 1910, 1916, 1918, 1936, 1937, 1976
Miami 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
Nebraska 5 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997
Ohio State 5 1942, 1954, 1957, 1968, 2002
Army 4 1914, 1944, 1945, 1946
Georgia Tech 4 1917, 1928, 1952, 1990
Illinois 4 1914, 1919, 1923, 1927
Tennessee 4 1938, 1950, 1951, 1998
Texas 4 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
California 3 1920, 1921, 1922
Florida 3 1996, 2006, 2008
LSU 3 1958, 2003, 2007
Michigan St 3 1952, 1965, 1966
FSU 2 1993, 1999
Georgia 2 1942, 1980
Maryland 2 1951, 1953
Penn State 2 1982, 1986
Texas A&M 2 1919, 1939
Arkansas 1 1964
Auburn 1 1957
BYU 1 1984
Clemson 1 1981
Colorado 1 1990
Mississippi 1 1960
SMU 1 1935
Stanford 1 1926
Syracuse 1 1959
TCU 1 1938
UCLA 1 1954
Washington 1 1991

1990 Colorado Big12 Georgia Tech (UPI) ACC
1991 Washington Pac10 Miami ACC
1992 Alabama SEC
1993 Florida State ACC
1994 Nebraska Big12
1995 Nebraska Big12
1996 Florida SEC
1997 Nebraska (USAT) Big12 Michigan (AP) Big10
1998 Tennessee (BCS/AP/USAT) SEC
1999 Florida State (BCS/AP/USAT) ACC
2000 Oklahoma (BCS/AP/USAT) Big12
2001 Miami (BCS/AP/USAT) ACC
2002 Ohio State (BCS/AP/USAT) Big10
2003 LSU (BCS/USAT) SEC USC (AP) PAC10
2004 USC (BCS/AP/USAT) PAC10
2005 Texas (BCS/AP/USAT) Big12
2006 Florida (BCS/AP/USAT) SEC
2007 LSU (BCS/AP/USAT) SEC
2008 Florida (BCS/AP/USAT) SEC

We know how bad Michigan was last year... They didn't even make it to a Bowl.
Here are their last 10 bowl games.... Notice how they are 5-1 against the SEC

January 1, 1999 Citrus Bowl W Arkansas 45 31
January 1, 2000 Orange Bowl W Alabama 35 34
January 1, 2001 Citrus Bowl W Auburn 31 28
January 1, 2002 Citrus Bowl L Tennessee 17 45
January 1, 2003 Outback Bowl W Florida 38 30
January 1, 2004 Rose Bowl L USC 14 28
January 1, 2005 Rose Bowl L Texas 37 38
December 28, 2005 Alamo Bowl L Nebraska 28 32
January 1, 2007 Rose Bowl L USC 18 32
January 1, 2008 Capital One Bowl W Florida 41 35

As far as the SEC crying about Auburn getting screwed.... check out these Bowls.
Monday, January 3, 2005 - Nokia Sugar Bowl: #3 Auburn (12-0, BCS #3, SEC champion) 16, #8 Virginia Tech (10-2, ACC champion) 13
Tuesday, January 4, 2005 - FedEx Orange Bowl (National Championship): #1 Southern California (12-0, BCS #1, Pac-10 champion) 55, #2 Oklahoma (12-0, BCS #2, Big 12 champion) 19

There were 3 undefeated... and undefeated SC was ranked #1... and played undefeated #2 .... Auburn was undefeated #3 and played a 10-2 #8
USC killed Oklahoma 55-19.... Auburn squeaked by Virginia Tech 16-13
Why is this really a discussion?

Most BCS bowl appearances USC, Ohio State, & Oklahoma (7 each)
Most BCS bowl wins USC (6)
Most BCS championships Florida & LSU (2 each)
Conference with most BCS bowl appearances Big Ten (19)
Conference with most BCS bowl game wins SEC (12)
Conference with most championships SEC (5)
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