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 carolann0308

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Posted: 7/21/2009 5:44:38 PM
Get a reliable friend to accompany you, bring the child to a public place and allow her father to meet her, even if his habit is still alive and well you have caused no harm.
But I would go through the state in the mean time and establish custody and see to it that the best interests of the child are met.
 futureshock

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Posted: 7/21/2009 5:53:29 PM

When I got pregnant, it was I angry for my own carelessness, and I who had no interest in having a child so young. In fact, it took me almost the whole pregnancy to adjust to the idea. I knew having a child meant no more partying and I certainly wasn't ready to give that up. Let's just say I diodn't want to grow up. =]

Naturally, I did because I know what's right. But in fact, he was 5 yrs older, and wanted a baby. It was he who insisted we have it and it'd be great.

I swear sometimes he planned it... ;) Nonetheless, it was I who did the right thing and him who faltered on the path of life.


That is truly tragic. To what do you attribute his change of attitude?
 Crunchy Tacos

Joined: 3/26/2009
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Posted: 7/22/2009 1:14:20 AM
Let's see: Idiot father on dope or no father and no drama. I'll take the latter.
 TAkEN N0W..sorry

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Posted: 7/22/2009 9:54:45 AM
i was a drug adicct after a wreck last may. i used the excuse that it helped with dealing with the pain. i ended up sleeping with this guy that was worse on drugs then myself, and i was doin almost 1,000$ worth a day, living in a trap house helped..
anyways, my dad got home from Iraq that july and told me it was me or the drugs. i chose my dad. I moved from sc to ky the next day, been clean since. i found i was 2 weeks pregnant a week later. i told the guy I was pregnant, he called everyday till i was 3months prego, he picked drugs over his child. im now a single mom to a beautiful almost 5month old baby girl.

so needless to say, i def agree that there are exceptions. I do not regret not prusuing him to see my child because as a mother, and commonsence, i will do it by myself everyday for thw rest of my life before i will allow my child around a man that will not quit drugs for her. Thats notEVER goin to happen.
 futureshock

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Posted: 7/23/2009 5:56:08 AM
yungmomma, where is your mother? Where were you living while your dad was away?

I assume you were on pain meds because of the accident. Couldn't a doctor prescribe you some so you didn't have to get them off of the street?
 TAkEN N0W..sorry

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Posted: 7/23/2009 8:21:38 AM
yeah. the medicine they gave me kept me asleep and i didnt want that. if your read what i wrote, you will sse that I said I used the EXCUSE that it helped(drugs). Thanks..

And why does it matter where my mom is or where I live with my dad at!?

The only thing that matters is that I take care of my daughter. THATS ALL
 m_church

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Posted: 7/23/2009 8:56:28 AM

i told the guy I was pregnant, he called everyday till i was 3months prego, he picked drugs over his child. im now a single mom to a beautiful almost 5month old baby girl.

One of the things that would worry me in this situation would be how the drugs during pregnancy are going to affect the child as she grows up. Sometime it can take years to know for sure if there are no side-effects...
 OpieDopey

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Posted: 7/23/2009 9:12:41 AM
true, m church. And in the case of yung who so rudely posted above you have to wonder how drugs might have affected her and her kid. She seems to have a very low reading comprehension level. She was not asked where she lives now with her dad, but where she lived when dad was gone.

Also, its her dad who takes care of the kid while she goes to school, but she gives him no credit here.. I have to wonder by her answer here how well she might do in school.
 TAKEN fab-mom

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Posted: 7/23/2009 9:18:46 AM
I know that when I split from the ex I found out he had been doing cocaine and I was scared to death that if he had been doing it during the time that we conceived that it would have an effect on the child. I researched and researched and asked my doctor and was assured that it wouldn't but I still think about it and wonder if there might be a long term affect that they might not know about.

She is healthy and active and has no noticeable deficiencies but I still worry.....I think it's a very valid concern to have and asking if the OP considered that is a very good question.
 futureshock

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Posted: 7/23/2009 12:12:26 PM

And why does it matter where my mom is or where I live with my dad at!?

The only thing that matters is that I take care of my daughter. THATS ALL


It doesn't matter, I was just curious why your mom wasn't around to look after you while your dad was away in Iraq.
 futureshock

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Posted: 7/23/2009 12:16:09 PM
I know that when I split from the ex I found out he had been doing cocaine and I was scared to death that if he had been doing it during the time that we conceived that it would have an effect on the child. I researched and researched and asked my doctor and was assured that it wouldn't but I still think about it and wonder if there might be a long term affect that they might not know about.

She is healthy and active and has no noticeable deficiencies but I still worry.....I think it's a very valid concern to have and asking if the OP considered that is a very good question.





Drink and drugs can damage men's sperm, study suggests.

Men should not smoke, drink or take unnecessary drugs if they are planning to become fathers to avoid causing health problems for their children, a health expert has warned.

Scientists found that toxic chemicals can damage sperm, which then pass altered genes onto babies. In experiments on rats Matthew Anway of the University of Idaho found that some garden chemicals caused problems such as damaged and overgrown prostates, infertility and kidney problems, all of which were present up to four generations later.

Cynthia Daniels, of Rutgers University in New Jersey, an expert in the relation between a father and child's health, said: "If I was a young man I would not drink beer, I would not be smoking when I'm trying to conceive a child."

To read the rest:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/feb/19/health.drugsandalcohol
 m_church

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Posted: 7/23/2009 1:25:16 PM

Drink and drugs can damage men's sperm, study suggests.

I'm actually a believer in that sort of thing too....
Fortunately I don't smoke...
And while we did drink when child-making (yes, my kids were planned!) we limited it severely to just a couple here and there....
 TAkEN N0W..sorry

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Posted: 7/23/2009 3:19:33 PM
firstly, i have passed the past 2 years of college with great grades. Thanks. misreading something does not, in the least bit, make a person stupid... another thing, my mom was doing her own thing while my dad was serving in Iraq. My mom tried to help but I didnt want it.. I was no where to found. As far as issues from the few days I done drugs(while,unknowingly,pregnant), nobody will know till it,if, it happens. Some people do drugs the hole time they are prego and their child grows up smart and as perfect as they could ever be. Sometimes people do everything the way the doctors tell them and they come out with many porblems. Think about it.

another thinh, I do online classes at the moment so im not away from her. And I give my dad credit for giving me a place to raise my daughter.

Yall are all worried about making me out to be this horrible person when in reality, Im a damn good person and a good mom.
 heterotic

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Posted: 7/23/2009 3:33:49 PM


Some people do drugs the hole time they are prego and their child grows up smart and as perfect as they could ever be. Sometimes people do everything the way the doctors tell them and they come out with many porblems. Think about it.


For one thing, abusing narcotics is against the law. Nothing good comes of it, so saying you did until you found out you were pregnant holds no weight with anyone.

Making statements like that makes drug addict women believe they can "chance it". Babies born of narcotic mothers can be and have been born with drug addictions, and the babies have to undergo the withdrawal symptoms in the same way an adult does. Except they are tiny little beings with very weak systems.

How many highly intelligent people do you know that had parents who did drugs while they were in utero?
 TAkEN N0W..sorry

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Posted: 7/23/2009 4:06:49 PM
i quit drugs a week beforw i found out i was 2 weeks pregnant thNks. another thing, what i was basically doing was letting people know that children come out born with things rong with them all the time. not just to drug users. my cousin(who is now 27) came out born with ictheosis.,and my aunt was never on drugs. My Point.
 heterotic

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Posted: 7/23/2009 4:11:00 PM


i quit drugs a week beforw i found out i was 2 weeks pregnant thNks. another thing, what i was basically doing was letting people know that children come out born with things rong with them all the time. not just to drug users. my cousin(who is now 27) came out born with ictheosis.,and my aunt was never on drugs. My Point.


How did you know you were pregnant before your period was due?
 TAkEN N0W..sorry

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Posted: 7/23/2009 6:57:10 PM
blood test hunny
 futureshock

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Posted: 7/23/2009 7:07:19 PM

i quit drugs a week beforw i found out i was 2 weeks pregnant thNks. another thing, what i was basically doing was letting people know that children come out born with things rong with them all the time. not just to drug users. my cousin(who is now 27) came out born with ictheosis.,and my aunt was never on drugs. My Point.


Are you trying to say that there is nothing wrong with being addicted to drugs while you are pregnant, because bad stuff happens to fetuses even when women aren't on drugs?

You do know that your egg was alive and in you the entire time you were on drugs, and that egg was exposed to all of those drugs, don't you? Same thing happens to men, their sperm get exposed to drugs.
 heterotic

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Posted: 7/23/2009 7:36:43 PM

blood test hunny


You don't start producing hCG until the embryo implants into the uterine wall. That isn't until 7-10 days after conception. Gestational age (how many weeks pregnant you are) is calculated by the first day of your last period, so there is no way you could have known you were pregnant at 2 weeks pregnant.

Why were you having a pregnancy beta done before your period was due if it was an accident?
 m_church

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Posted: 7/23/2009 7:47:48 PM

i quit drugs a week beforw i found out i was 2 weeks pregnant thNks.

And how long did they remain in your system...?
Some drugs can still be detected a month after stoppage...
And did you store your Ova in a jar while you were doing the drugs...?

Well for a college kid you sure can't spell....
ictheosis is spelled "Ichthyosis" I'm going to give you credit and say all your other spelling mistakes are typos because you aren't a skilled keyboarder....
 OpieDopey

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Posted: 7/23/2009 7:50:08 PM
I actually knew once the exact moment I conveived, but thats another story...

This looks like another girl here who keeps tweaking her story. First her dad was caring for the baby so she could work and go to school, now she says she takes care of the baby doing school online.

She first admitted doing drugs( $1000 a day, how did she manage that?), but only the first few days.

They do PG test with blood? I have only heard of the pee test.

And she graduated 2 years early from HS with this kind of spelling? And 2 years college with good grades?
 futureshock

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Posted: 7/23/2009 7:53:56 PM
I give her credit for stopping drugs cold turkey. She must have suffered from unbearable withdrawal.
 rustic36

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Posted: 7/23/2009 9:44:30 PM
Is it no wonder that people slip back into their habits?
A person states that they have kicked their habit but, people still hold them to it.
Anyone that knows how addictions work would realise that kicking the habit and staying clean whether it be nicotine, heroin, coke etc., is a difficult thing. Its even more difficult when people continually shoot them down and criticise them for their past. Eventually it all gets too much and they decide; I'm still being called a drug user and no one even acknowledges my efforts, I might as well start using again. Then what happens? the same critical people turn around and say; "see, she/he is still using, I knew they wouldn't stay clean for long". No wonder, if your going to continually shoot them down even when they are making the effort to try and fix their life, of course they will slip backwards.

How I would love to be as perfect as some people are.. (sarcasm)

As for typo's and spelling mistakes. Is it really worth shooting the person down because they misspelled a medical term? or hit the wrong key etc. It doesn't mean they aren't educated, it simply means that either; they hit the wrong key and failed to notice, or like many people, they aren't perfect spellers. I have a couple of lectures at uni that are more than educated and respected in their field and guess what. When you read through their notes or handouts, there are spelling mistakes. Why? because they are human and humans make mistakes. I know teachers that misspell things or use incorrect grammar, but hey, they're human as well. Its not the end of the world if you misspell something. As long as the person still understands what you mean, then, it really doesn't matter. There are far more important things to worry about in life.

If you want drug users to kick the habit and repair their lives and those they have affected, then, give em a break and encourage them rather than shooting them down a level which only further reduces their already low-self esteem and self-worth.
 m_church

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Posted: 7/23/2009 9:55:15 PM

A person states that they have kicked their habit but, people still hold them to it.

This is very true, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy...
 heterotic

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Posted: 7/23/2009 10:32:19 PM


They do PG test with blood? I have only heard of the pee test.


Pregnancy (TORCH) panels are always done to confirm pregnancy, to determine stability of the pregnancy and to check for syphilis, hepatitis B, coxsackie virus, Epstein-Barr virus, varicella-zoster virus, and human parvovirus, anemia, Rubella, Cytomegalovirus and Herpes.

I just don't understand why she would be having this done before knowing she was pregnant, and before knowing she could have been pregnant.
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