| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/5/2009 10:56:02 PM | | I don't get why you came on here in the first place. You are asking for advice, or perhaps digging for compliments. As soon as you get the advice, you shoot it down. You insist that guys aren't responding to you because you are out of their league. You are pretty, but you aren't a model, so I doubt that is it. More than likely it is because you have a kid and the way you portray yourself on both your profile and the forums (since those people who look at your profile can also see how big of a **** you have been in here). | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/9/2009 2:47:09 PM | Kristeb424, It was simply a question with no undeline meaning just a question. If you've read through it there wasn't a whole lot of advice given and really none that was needed again just a question. And how exactly do I portray myself on my profile I don't say anything rude or ****y in it all just simply who I am and what I am about so if putting down goals in your life and new adventures you'd like to try portays someone as a **** well that's kind of sad. If you've taken the time to read through the forum you'd understand that the majority of it is nothing to take so serious as you obviously have one smart ass person comments something to me and I comment something smart ass back it was more of humor than any personal conflict. I never suggessted that I was out of anyones league as I do not think that at all it was simplay a statement made and was curious on a males point of view if that truly goes through their head and it wasn't directed only toward me I meant women in general that they view. | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/9/2009 9:21:24 PM | | well i personally think your following an old male sterotype. yeah sure some guys wont even message a girl whom they think is to ugly or even to attractive for them. me im not shallow at all. its someones personality that turns me on. although i will say your statement of "i dont get many messages" does suprise me. hell im going to message you haha | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/9/2009 11:17:10 PM | | See that's exactly why I asked the question lol it does seem like an old sterotype but i'm sure there are those out there that follow that sterotype but i'm sure majority doesn't. I do get a bit of messages I wouldn't say I dont get many messages my question was just if guys really think that way lol hell i'm not a man so I don't know how they all think just like as us women men are a little tricky to figure out as well Thanks for the message!! And I agree with you on the personality thing very true!!! | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/10/2009 2:51:58 PM | Your pics are way better then when you first started this..you should be getting more messaging...your current profile pic should have the caption "This is what you want eh baby?".  | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/10/2009 3:49:06 PM | | I think you changed your description which sounds better too...the last pic with your boy is best..though...LOL | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/10/2009 7:35:37 PM | Thank You Thank You I've been trying lol see I took some of your advice and ran with it lol. Always a Pleasure to hear from ya!!!  | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/13/2009 11:00:08 AM | Getting"Lucky" is at bars is still very much possible, although the good spots for it are all but disappearing (EX'S The Beach, Tom n Jerry's, Stoneys (before it went nigthtclub) and way back when Rockabilly's) won't revel an existing spots, there's already too much sausage in fewer and fewer good hookup bars. These nightclubs Tao, Blush, Cherry.....all suck, they have few available women (most are there on LOAN from other clubs and stripjoints) Girls have to rotate 2 nights a week @ other clubs, free drinks and tables of course to make the club look full and fun. It used to be a 50/50 chance of getting laid now it's closer to 30-40%. Lucky for me I usually end up with what most girls would call a "slut", those are my long term girlfriends. So after a couple of outtings I have a new one, YAY!!! ME!!! That is until the girls' personal and financial (&drug) problems are too much for me and her ****ing starts, hate that. They all have kids, most been having sex since they were 12, so at 25 that's 13 years of it. No need for an older "experienced" woman for me, women start sliding down hill fast after 25, who wants that? ..........wow!!! I really got off track, didn't I??........ At the bar...just gotta look fairly attractive, have good personality, and be fun, someone the girl wants to ahngout with. You can't impress her with money, she wants yours, but has been selling herself for many years now, experienced. And she doesn't need you, she has a few friends or some bad boy douche that she gets laid from when she needs it. Gotta make her excited and want it....sounds lame but works 3 outta 10 times, then if you are really lucky, you're off these stupid sites for a while, with your new "slut" or I prefer, girlfriend. Until the great day that Oscar Goodman makes prostitution legal in the city...........this ridiculous dating game will play on... | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/13/2009 11:51:41 AM | | Wow um that was intresting lol kind of all over the place but um intresting!! Does meeting what you refer to as what most girls would call a "slut" really work out for you as a long time girlfriend? or is your prefrence just finding that chick to sleep with and who cares about the rest? lol I'm a little lost in your posting lol sorry | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/13/2009 12:02:51 PM | Yes, almost always a longterm girlfriend, sluts are people too. I like a chick who knows how to be sexy, all the time, not just when she wants something. I found that if it's not hot in the beginning, it usually sucks the whole time. No need to be together if you don't want to be together. Well, that's a guys point of view, chicks still want to be taken care of and spoiled, while providing little in return. What is the "rest" you speak of?
Sorry for rambling, just think the whole game is ridiculous. Things would be much easier if both men and women were honest | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/14/2009 10:09:28 AM | Here's my Opinion, If I may.
All guys place a lady in a league category, us guys call it the Scale, Im sure you have heard of it, the 1-10 scale. As we browse PoF, the first thing we notice is your looks, your smile, eyes and body. Then right there in that instant we can determine either we feel you are a 6 or an 7 or an 8.5, once the scale reaches too high of a number the credibility of the person went down. IE - The higher the number the less likely we have a chance with that person. So even knowing we may not have a chance we will still open up and view the profile to read more about you.
Now again here is where most guys differ based on there own Confidence level. Myself if I feel we have enough in common and you actually placed thought in your profile listing what you have to offer and telling us "About You" you can be 8, 9 or 9.5. And I will still try to communicate with you. Because I know I have nothing to loose if you answer Great! if you don’t, Hey Plenty more out there. And I am just going to keep moving on.
So to answer your Question "OP" Im not sure why your not getting any messages. You are very pretty an 8 on my scale, with a well thought out profile.
But I do know I messaged ya early on. Before this post. And never got a response. Not even the fiercely acclaimed "Thanks but Not Interested" reply.
So even Woman have a scale like guys. For guys its based on League.. For girls “The higher the number the better the odds you will communicate with that person”.
Again just my 2 cents. | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/14/2009 12:35:49 PM | Well, trust me when I say, in a place like Vegas, we do! Only the "bad" boy types, or overly confident "successful" men seem to have any luck at all, the rest of us(meaning guys like me I guess) don't even get looks, let alone a date! Haha ========================================================= How about a being a little positive? All this negativity probably comes across to your dates. People are the same no matter where you are. You'll meet the same type of women in NY, FL etc. I'm really tired of all these stereotypes. Here's one for you, there are a lot of dysfunctional people who use the Internet to date. | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/14/2009 11:47:43 PM | Best way to get more hits is to place your profile in the 'profile help' section, or whatever it's called here.
Short story: people like "lot of humping" or whatever his name is review your profile, and point out flaws. Though he did it in a roundabout way, he did it quite effectively, and it worked, did it not?
Just try to be positive. Sure, a lot of young guys will look and say, "A kid? No thanks!" and run the other way, but a lot won't. Simple as that. You're just playing the numbers here. I, for one, have no trouble finding people in real life (I joined because a forum thread I found via google made me LAUGH my ass off, and I had to respond). However, again, its playing the numbers. Lets say you can meet 10 people in a bar at night. Lets say also you meet three online via POF... that raises your odds of finding somebody. Online dating is convenient... simple as that. Its the ability to essentially figure out what a person is like without having to EVER contact them. If you're not getting responses, either they're too busy, haven't logged in, or have decided you're just not it for them. Keep at it, you'll find plenty of people, and be patient! You will eventually have success, everybody does.
Oh, and finally: good luck | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/15/2009 12:22:01 AM | | WoW all of the responses recently have been really great!! I like all of the opinons and views you've shared!! I'm not sure sassy what you ment by sterotypes if your refering to the post before you. Ya know that's one thing I do keep hearing from males is this "vegas women" thing and i'm not a native Las Vegas Gal maybe thats what makes me different but i've been here long enough so I do consider Vegas my home and I hate that some guys sterotype "vegas women" I defiently stay out of the "City" life I have the small town girl thing for me for where I was born and raised. I just hate for a stero type to be placed on women and Vegas but then again i'm not a male and haven't been exposed to "vegas women" I suppose lol. All of your threads were really good thanks for adding on to them!! I did get some good advice about my pic lol I got it didn't have enough pics with a smile on my face lol it was good advice. I've talked to a met a few people from this site and be it romantic or just friends everyone is pretty cool. I don't knock the whole internet dating noting wrong with it to me i'm in a line of work where I don't mean dating partners it's either criminals or police officers not a big pool for me at work lol. Thanks for the comment about the kid thing very true some guys will run and some won't very true!! Thanks for all your comments!!! | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/15/2009 12:57:54 AM | | I'd answer your profile in a heart beat. take you out and enjoy your company but you restricted my age your not out of my league! | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/15/2009 4:14:59 PM | | LOL Well in all honesty, as a guy, yes I do that quite offten. I will admit that yes I look at pics and then just a glimpse of the profile and I have this gut feeling that "she" is way outta my league and I my self have no chance with this girl. And 9 times out of 10 a girl will have to contact me first before I will say any thing. Kinda embarassing but thats the way I am and pretty much have always been. In my case I am just very unsure of my self and that has probably cost me a lot but such is life. Just my point of view on that matter. But also no keep up what ever pics you have and there will be a guy that comes along that can manage to drop you a line. | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/15/2009 5:53:34 PM | yep I've looked at some pictures and said out of my league there are women who's beauty is intimidateing, some womens pictures end up being down right frightening (not appearance but the picture, bad lighting, bad make up, picture taken in the mirror in the morning of a bad hair day etc )
hey my picture isn't that hot so its a two way street I'm sure
there are lots of things that men get intimidated by (and most won't admit this) its not insecurity, or even weak will its experiance both men and women dismiss eachother as potential dates every day for the most insignifigant reasons, its nessesary we meet way to many people to look deeply into each one of them.
this is further complicated for men by the idea that (dispite our enlightened gender neutral claims) the man is to make the advance. so up to half the people are not even expressing an interest until they are approached
ladies if your interested, SAY SO and don't assume us guys are going to "get the signals" cause frankly unless were players always on the prowl (and do you want that) were pretty much not picking it up, men generally require a wack in the head with a 2x4. | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/15/2009 7:52:27 PM | Booboodad, I would have to agree with you. And most time, when a lady is really interested in what she has read they will message you 1st to express Interest.
However with that said, you cant really see any signal or read body lang. In "Text"
And for the Other gentleman that said "He doesnt message anyone" Hey man Tuffin up, You got nothing to loose!!!! Whats the worst to happen? They read your message and delete it?
That just give you more times/tries to practice up your "Ice Breaker Message"
Good Luck! | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/16/2009 2:37:16 AM |
I have this gut feeling that "she" is way outta my league and I my self have no chance with this girl. And 9 times out of 10 a girl will have to contact me first before I will say any thing
Really? Guys actually do that? Holy crap, I just figured out what you need to do to change your whole dating career, man. If you ever feel somebody is out of your league, freakin' GO for it!
Think of it in analogical terms: if a 12 year old boy who plays hockey shoots at Martin Brodeur, and he is stopped, no harm, he's a 12 year old! But if he scores, oh MAN what a goal that will be! Win win, man, go for the gold, and all that! | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/16/2009 2:07:35 PM | Ya know that's one thing I do keep hearing from males is this "vegas women" thing and i'm not a native Las Vegas Gal maybe thats what makes me different but i've been here long enough so I do consider Vegas my home and I hate that some guys sterotype "vegas women" I defiently stay out of the "City" life I have the small town girl thing for me for where I was born and raised. I just hate for a stero type to be placed on women and Vegas but ========================================================== How many people here are actually born here? A majority moved here during the late 90's and forward. I've only been here since 2003. I moved here from the NJ/NY area. I've met more men from the mid-west who spew this 'I've got mid-west values crap'. Guess what? Men in the mid-west cheat on their wives and girlfriends, commit murder, fraud, do drugs etc. That's a stereotype, that all men from the mid-west have values. If you read the posts here you'll see men from FL, CA etc all say that women just want them to buy them dinner, buy them stuff, take them on vacation. There all wounded little souls.  | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/17/2009 8:58:30 PM | Not to burst your bubble, but just in a snapshot glance, you must have meant to say "They're" as in "they are" at the end there. Just to help, previous poster :)
Having said that, and gotten it out of the way, let me point out: you're saying "Stop stereotyping me" but you follow that up with descriptions of yourself, like "small town girl"!!!
That IS a stereotype! Otherwise, what does small-town girl 'thing' mean? Everybody is going to stereotype everybody (like that irony?) so the best thing to do is just roll with the punches. Anybody who positively stereotypes you, jump all over them and show them that you also have more to offer. Anyone with negative stereotypes, just ignore them, they're being silly. | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/21/2009 1:58:05 AM | | Quitebusy~ Like your posting very well put I suppose your right about saying small town girl I just meant i'm not a big city gal I like it low key lol. I have to say your attitude is really good I like the go getter thing instead of the shy not to confident type it's good and guys and girls should both be like that!!! Very Well put!!!! | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/22/2009 3:29:57 PM | I think it's stupid to think someone is out of your "league" or putting people on a scale and approaching them based on these things. I've met and talked to some amazing people (Pres. Reagan, Rob Lowe, Pratrick Swayze....just to drop a few names you might recognize). I never would have had the experiences if I thought they weren't human just like me and you or thought they were to good for me.
The same thing applies to potential dates. Your going to miss out meeting some great people because you decided to judge them and not give them the chance to the very least just say no or as on POF, ignore you!
Now I'm not on here looking for anyone, otherwise my profile wouldn't be as it is but I get emails from women telling me I'm funny and just as many calling me an a$$hole and they haven't even seen how ugly I am yet...LOL
There's one type of girl I have always stayed away from though...VIRGINS! | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/26/2009 2:45:18 AM | Haha, nice previous post
And thanks for noticing, OP, I do my best. Remember, if you never drive to the store, you're not going to be able to bring home any groceries.  | |
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| Need a Males opinon Posted: 8/31/2009 1:41:11 AM | There is a mental block some guys suffer from, and the ‘out of my league’ Syndrome is very real for these men.
A few friends and I would hit some of the C&W clubs in Denver (Stampede and Grizzly Rose for those familiar with Denver). One of the guys looked like a Hollywood casting director’s wet dream of what a cowboy should look like; this guy got hit on by women all night long.
He also suffered from the worst case of ‘she’s out of my league’ syndrome I’ve ever seen – he would freeze up when HE saw a gal he thought was ‘hot’. It is a very real issue with some men.
As to the ‘Vegas women thing’, all I can is this: they are the most aggressive I’ve seen anywhere, including San Francisco and Denver!! I’ve yet to meet the stereotyped ‘gold digging’ ‘look down their nose at you’ woman in Vegas. This observation includes showgirls (I worked for Phantom), casino****ail waitresses, models and other ‘hot’ women I have contact with daily at work.
I too have much better ‘luck’ meeting in real life. In the 3 years I’ve been on PoF I think I initiated one message, only because I recognized an outdoor pic as being from my hometown in Colorado.
I meet people at work or other non-club social activities, not in bars; those days died with Gilley’s and the New Frontier.
I have no idea why a semi-normal man in Vegas can’t meet someone…I’m 55, the youngest gal I ‘hang’ with is 22, the oldest 47 (who is much ‘hotter’ than 80% of the 20-30 year old gals).
I wont be invited to grace the cover of GQ or Men's Health anytime soon; maybe personality makes a difference after-all, I don't know...but I do know I've had no problems meeting people and making friends is Vegas!! | |
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