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 chadcuba

Joined: 6/4/2009
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Posted: 8/9/2009 3:10:58 PM
What the hell are you smoking dude??? Where are all the most famous and popular baseball players from?? Where are the best and most popular BJJ fighters from? Where was the beloved Oscar De La Hoya from? Where is David Beckam from? Where is Lance Armstrong from? Your comment was absurd and far from reality. If anything, americans love to hate americans. Why does Donald Trump get fined 10,000 a day IN AMERICA for flying THE AMERICAN FLAG??? Anyways..... you're clueless on this.

Now out of all those fighters you mentioned compare those to these

1. Fedor and Brock Lesnar
2. Lyoto Machida
3. Anderson Silva
4. Dan Henderson
5. GSP
6. Bj Penn
7. Urijah Faber
8. Miguel Torres
 Cyke

Joined: 3/25/2009
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Posted: 8/9/2009 3:19:49 PM
Whatever dude, you're clearly clueless about boxing. That's all I ever hear from the American broadcasters and announcers is whining about where are all the 'American' heavyweights. You might want to watch a bit of boxing before commenting on it. You also might want to do a little research before you spout off...Oscar De La Hoya is an American. Lance Armstrong is an American.
 kingpt

Joined: 7/27/2009
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Posted: 8/10/2009 5:26:51 AM
Honestly... No, Pacman will knock him out. I'm just a big Cotto fan, but I think this will be his first true loss.
 Cyke

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Posted: 8/10/2009 9:59:40 AM
I like Cotto alright but Pacman wouldn't be his first loss. Margarito beat him.



Though Cotto (32-1) fought admirably, Margarito (37-5, 27 KOs) - so often ducked by the division's best fighters in recent years - seemed to expend all the bottled-up energy he had from several years of waiting to be a Vegas headliner.

Cotto controlled the early rounds but gradually lost faith in his ability to slow down the taller Mexican star with the stone chin, leading to a major momentum swing in the middle rounds. Cotto rallied in the 10th, but he was spitting blood, and another barrage from Margarito dropped him to one knee 80 seconds into the 11th.

Margarito chased him until the Puerto Rican star finally went down again. With Cotto bleeding and woozy, the champion's corner stopped the fight with 55 seconds left, sending Margarito's team into a delirious celebration of a long-awaited victory.


If and when Pacman beats Cotto he will be the first boxer in history to win seven titles in seven different weight classes.


The fight that most boxing fans anticipated is official. Top Rank promoter Bob Arum announced on Monday that IBO and Ring Magazine junior welterweight champion, and current top pound-for-pound fighter, Filipino Manny Pacquiao will face off against WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto of Puerto Rico. The two will meet on November 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas at an agreed 145 lb. maximum weight.

Historic Implications:

This fight is a historic fight for the sport of boxing. As mentioned earlier, a victory by Pacquiao allows him to claim an astonishing 7th title in his 7th weight class. He would be the first and only boxer in history to claim such a feat.

http://www.examiner.com/x-4514-Houston-Boxing-Examiner~y2009m7d20-Early-analysis-Manny-Pacquiao-vs-Miguel-Cotto
 kingpt

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Posted: 8/10/2009 10:42:54 AM
Yeah, but until there is evidence that margarito didn't use dodgy wraps in that fight, I just can't take it seriously. It does make that much difference.
 Cyke

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Posted: 8/10/2009 12:35:04 PM

Yeah, but until there is evidence that margarito didn't use dodgy wraps in that fight, I just can't take it seriously. It does make that much difference.

You can't prove a negative. I don't think anyone accused him of it in that fight. He definitely beat Cotto.
 kingpt

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Posted: 8/10/2009 3:01:57 PM
That's very true. But can't help but wonder, especially this far in his career how often he may have got away with using dodgy wraps.
 Cyke

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Posted: 8/10/2009 3:17:13 PM

That's very true. But can't help but wonder, especially this far in his career how often he may have got away with using dodgy wraps.

I agree, it makes you wonder. The thing is that he never needed to do that crap because he's a damn good fighter. So is Cotto though.
 kingpt

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Posted: 8/10/2009 4:03:01 PM
I don't know, margarito can sure as hell take a punch, but there's something about his style I just can't undrstand. He looks too determined,but slugish and slow for his weight. Maybe it's my non experience at fighting at that level. Don't get me wrong, I am a MArgarito fan.
 dirtydeeds86

Joined: 5/14/2009
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Posted: 8/11/2009 4:28:46 PM
Just Say No Ricky!..... i Hope Ricky Hatton Doesnt decide to take that Fight... His Health is in major question! i hope he makes the right choice and hangs It up!
 Cyke

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Posted: 8/11/2009 4:32:51 PM

Just Say No Ricky!..... i Hope Ricky Hatton Doesnt decide to take that Fight... His Health is in major question! i hope he makes the right choice and hangs It up!

Huh??? What fight?
 dirtydeeds86

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Posted: 8/11/2009 4:42:00 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/aug/11/ricky-hatton-comeback-amir-khan-fight


Hes thinking about possible fight against Amir Khan for the WBA Light Welterweight Title in Jan @ MgM Grand in vegas
 Cyke

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Posted: 8/11/2009 5:09:27 PM
Oh, the only one I had heard he was thinking of fighting was Steve Forbes. Either way, I think he should probably retire. His chin is gone.
 wwhs70

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Posted: 8/11/2009 7:00:53 PM
IMHO, your question is a bit misconstrued. You can have a dominant champ (as are the Klitschos) or a legit contender (as, say, Jerry Quarry back in Ali and Frasier's day) but not a dominant contender. Perhaps the best legitimate American contender today is - if not Arreola - "Fast" Eddie Chambers. He recently did a number on top ten-ranked and undefeated Dimitrenko. Apparently Chambers is getting serious about boxing and has come into his last couple of fights in excellent condition.
 dirtydeeds86

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Posted: 8/16/2009 2:06:14 PM
Oct 3rd on the boardwalk in N.J....

Kelly Pavlik defends his Middleweight Belt against.. Paul Williams....


Williams will be a tough southpaw for Pavlik too handle but Im rooting fer ya Ghost!!...


Also the Sept 19th Floyd Mayweather/ Juan Manuel Marquez with a very good undercard will go up against UFC 103 the same nite.. should be interesting who watches what!...

Finally Arturo Gatti's Window said that a Second Autopsy will show she had nothing to do with his Suicide....... Truly Sad... Arturo Was a great Warrior In the Ring... RIP
 colt8301

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Posted: 8/17/2009 1:57:18 PM
You know what I been asking that for years
it's like all the heavyweights here have been sucked up in some kind of Blackhole.
Maybe right now we have a youngster in the U.S to come up be the Man.
 dirtydeeds86

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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:18:23 PM
Kelly PAvlik hadda Postpone OCt 3Rd fight today due too staph Infection
 -chopper-

Joined: 8/10/2009
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Posted: 8/19/2009 10:07:43 AM
we have a young tough heavyweight prospect over here named tyson fury..he is a big lad with a good punch,,he is only in the early stages of his career yet..but is one to watch out for..
 fissionfusion

Joined: 8/30/2009
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Posted: 9/24/2009 10:12:16 PM
Boxing in the U.S. isn't waning. Most of those in this thread who say it was waning never really followed boxing, thus it's not like their revenue or attention was lost. That and MMA is a joke outside the US borders.

UFC 103 got straight CANCELLED in Mexico for the Mayweather - Marquez fight.
 kenpoboy

Joined: 9/22/2008
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Posted: 9/25/2009 7:00:12 AM

That and MMA is a joke outside the US borders.


That's not true, and you know it. MMA is huge in Japan and Canada, amongst others. It's not that big in Europe, I will concede. Boxing is waning in the US (compared to Europe) because they aren't delivering fights that people want to see, due to all the rival promotions. If they make fights happen, boxing will come back.
 fissionfusion

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Posted: 9/25/2009 4:11:24 PM
MMA is huge in Japan?

LOL. At best it had a niche market. Fedor vs. Cro Cop, the largest heavyweight MMA title fight imaginable only sold like 4,000 seats in an Arena that seated 12,000.

Fewer and fewer slots are being alotted to MMA on Japanese T.V. The UFC is now only on special order in Japan. The fighters purses are half of what they were even 2 years ago.

Japan again has a niche market. Everyone knows what Pride was in Japan, but that had more to do with familiarization than anything else. And let's not lie to ourselves, half the reason Pride blew up was because of Saku (Japan's version of The Rock).
 etourdi77

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Posted: 9/25/2009 4:40:28 PM
There is no real comparison between MMA and Boxing...there are great fighters in both sports but its like comparing Basketball to Football,They are that different.As far as having a viable American contender who knows? the Klischkos brought something to the heavy weight division that it never really had before. They are very precise technical boxers to those who have never boxed its not as much fun to watch but to those who have boxed they are great to watch. Great angles they utilize their jabs both are Great fighters.....
 kenpoboy

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Posted: 9/25/2009 4:42:24 PM
Well, when I say huge, I mean relative to the USA market. So MMA is still pretty big in Japan, although I agree it has diminished quite a bit. I mean, MMA is still practically a niche thing here in the USA, too. It hasn't eclipsed boxing yet, as Mayweather's PPV numbers were very good.
 SeekingTheOneOut

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Posted: 9/26/2009 5:00:20 PM
Aren't most sports, and most entertainment products in general, niche deals that tend to skew to certain demographics while eschewing certain others? UFC's numbers eclipsed those of boxing a couple of years ago and they're recognized as the current kings of PPV. Mayweather/Marquez did get over 1 million buys, but it's important to recognize that it's not a sign that boxing is still strong or strong again.
 alnite69

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Posted: 9/28/2009 9:19:25 AM
tommy morrison does not have hiv they reinstated his boxing licence he now fights in underground ufc u can find it on u tube
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