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Posted: 9/30/2009 11:45:18 AM | Well, 2008 was a terrible year for boxing and has forced a shift from ppv to network in a scramble to keep people interested.
Meanwhile MMA has enjoyed a progressively greater profile in Canada and Britain, while Fedor and his team are working as hard as they can to bring the UFC to Russia.
MMA didn't exist as a sport prior to the early 90's; at least not since the days of the ancient Greeks. Now, a mere 2 decades later, it's on everyone's radar.
It's funny that I can generally step into an MMA thread and never hear a bad thing said about boxing, but step into a boxing thread and it's "fans" seem obsessed with attacking MMA. Feel threatened much?
But really, you can have the best of both worlds and enjoy the best that both sports have to offer. Unfortunately, a few dumbass boxing fans make an otherwise great sport harder and harder to enjoy. | |
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Posted: 9/30/2009 11:53:30 AM | | Actually MMA has existed for quite a while it just changed names used to be catch wrestling then shoot wrestling and before those it was called something else .... | |
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Posted: 10/1/2009 10:14:43 PM | Mayweather-Marquez absolutely shit on UFC 103 in terms of interest, attendance and buyrates. Mayweather hadn't fought in two years, and he was in there with a guy who had no chance at all (seriously, I know tons of people who put money on Mayweather at -400!). More people are watching Floyd Mayweather than watched Sugar Ray Leonard because boxing is more global. More people have the opportunity to watch people fight.
Saying that boxing isn't as popular as it was in the 1950s is like saying that Seinfeld wasn't as popular as M*A*S*H because the latter had higher rankings. Sure, a smaller percentage of TV viewers are watching boxing, but the number of TV viewers has gone through the roof.
Floyd Mayweather might walk away from last week's fight with $20 million. In the history of boxing, only three or four fighters have made that much on a single night, and that wasn't Mayweather's biggest fight. | |
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Posted: 10/2/2009 5:39:24 AM | | Of course Mayweather-Marquez 'absolutely shit on' UFC 103. Franklin against Belfort wasn't an 'A' level main event and everyone knew that going in. Nobody expected it to get anywhere close to what Mayweather-Marquez was going to get in terms of interest, attendance or buy rate. Strange how it hasn't been mentioned that UFC 100 outdrew the Mayweather-Marquez fight on PPV by a considerable margin and that, contrary to the recent press release from the Boxing Promoters Association, it also generated more PPV revenue than Mayweather-Marquez, also by quite a margin. The fact remains that UFC is the king of PPV right now. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 11:24:30 PM | | people have been wanting to bury boxing since ufc picked up some steam.but for all you ufc fans! boxing is still king and always will be! no matter what ufc does,it just doesnt compare to a boxing match! watching two guys go toe to toe,or two guys rub on each other on the floor! come on its a no brainer! boxing will never die ufc fans,deal with it! boxing is still and will always be your daddy! | |
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Posted: 10/6/2009 2:42:20 AM | Cue 'Mayweather backing out against Sean Sherk'
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The MMA world has been clawing for respect, particularly in relation to boxing, and it says something about the sport's growth that Sherk isn't all that enthused about meeting Cintron.
"Honestly, I've never heard of Kermit Cintron," Sherk said. "One of the MMA websites called me and said he wanted to fight me and that was the first time I heard his name.
"The Mayweather fight was one thing, but I'm not sure a fight with Cintron makes sense. Mayweather is a household name and a fight between me and him would have done millions of buys and would have gotten a ton of attention. It might have been the biggest selling show ever.
"But someone like Kermit Cintron? I have nothing against the guy, but I don't know if he'd sell any tickets. I don't think the UFC would see any value in it. I'll fight whoever they tell
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Ray Mercer 1.
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Posted: 10/6/2009 4:35:21 AM | Any mythical UFC vs. Boxing fight would be between the two biggest names in whatever weight class the fight takes place in, and neither Sherk nor Cintron fit into that category. Talk of such a 'superfight' is irrelevant because it's never going to happen; if it's under MMA rules, good luck in finding a major boxing name willing to risk his reputation in a fight where the odds are very good he'll lose.
And if we're scoring things, it's
Ray Mercer 1
MMA 1
You're forgetting Mercer losing to Kimbo Slice by, of all things, submission. Not that a victory over either Mercer, Sylvia or Slice really means a whole lot. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2009 5:36:51 PM | Well, I been involved in boxing since 1982, I fought at 132 lbs. in the amateurs (lightweight) and my opinion is: blah, blah. blah, blah, blah.
Boxing will never die. MMA guys come around the gym. They want better hands.
These arguments remind of this: Who would win? Godzilla or Mothra?
I notice that these MMA guys are standing up more. They are not fluid. They are stiff in the knees.
Why? Why are they standing up? That's the quick way to win. A knockout.
There are guys in my gym who do both. Box for money and take MMA fights for money.
One guy who fights at about 190 (cruiser) told me guys go to ground when they are scared. Maybe. I don't know. I only ever boxed. You got guys on this thread dissing boxers and they couldn't even get in there. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2009 9:51:38 PM | Good post, bodypro8!
I don't think the assessment of the cruiser weight mentioned is very fair though. It could be equally said that guys try to keep it standing because they're scared of going to the ground. Guys who are good with their hands tend to want to keep it standing. Guys who are good on the ground will want to take it there long before they are ever in trouble on their feet.
It's a tactic, like anything else. If something isn't working for you, you switch to something else that might work better. It's that plain and simple, and makes things a little more interesting then two guys just planting themselves and exchanging blows, with no defense, until one falls.
Is footwork, positioning, head movement, covering up signs that a guy is scared? Or is it a sign that he's smart, proficient, and something more than a drunken brawler? | |
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Posted: 10/7/2009 12:13:15 PM | Well, yeah, fear. There is always fear. Every fighter has fear. You SHOULD be afraid. Someone is coming to hurt you.
I had a friend, a featherweight. We were in the catacombs of the Inglewood forum. He was sitting on a table and shaking from head to toe. It was his first four rounder. First pro fight.
But he had had a 160 amateur fights. Two time national US champ. Fought in the Olympic box offs.
I used to die. I was alright once the bell rang. Sometimes I got hurt in there. I would feel a huge rush of adrenalin. A thrill of fear and I would fight back harder.
Finally, there is defence in boxing. If guys are just trading in MMA then they need to work on that. The two sports are different and cannot be compared, even if both sports contain elements of the other.
I absolutely respect the MMA guys. I just prefer boxing. | |
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Posted: 10/9/2009 1:43:18 PM | | Boxings never gonna die no greater sport than boxing....joe calzaghe best ever boxer in the world!! | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:10:27 AM | Boxing is so in...cuz...I'm a "Boxer"...and my 16 year old son is too! I Love it! There is so much to learn and I'm a learning it all...Workouts...good for the body...Yee-Haa  | |
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Posted: 11/5/2009 8:02:28 AM | | Ive just gotta post on this forum as just read some of the comments. UFC(MMA) and boxing are two completely different sports, i respect both as arts and different disciplines. I understand some people dont enjoy watching mma and vice versa. Thats like any sport, i dont enjoy watching cricket but thats just cos i dnt enjoy it not because i dont respect the training and talent of top level athletes. I have competed in thai boxing and mma. But also trained loads of boxing. To say any top boxer would destroy any mma fighter is a complete load of rubbish. If you actually believe that you dont have any clue about mma as an art or discipline. These statements are completely untrue and the fact that some people seem to refer to it as glorified street fighting is ignorant and offensive to anyone who has trained or competed in mma. MMA are some of the most finely tuned and dedicated athletes around. rant over | |
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