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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 9:07:52 AM |
Hmmmm does that mean that if we had not attacked Bush on his poor job performance on a daily basis his ratings could have been higher and he would have done a better job.
You are using the word "we" as in if we had not attacked, that's assuming what? that you and I attacked GWB on a daily basis? "you" may have but "I" did not, but now that he is out of office it's possible to see what his job performance created and I think it is pretty horrifying, some of us are left dealing with an economy that is basically shot, some of us have family members and freinds that have suffered tremendous physical and mental damage from a war that was entered into for other then stated reasons that seemed to change faster then the wind
Just as GW deserved the negative attention and low poll numbers so does Obama.
It is almost liable to mention ex President GWB and President Obama in the same breath and again you are bordering on distortion the polls you presented show a large margin of the population still approve of the job that President Bush is doing all those pluses "+" show that.
If Obama would keep some of his promises, get himself out of campaign mode, quit lying to the public and listen to the voters more, than just maybe people would stop attacking him like we attacked Bush on all his fallacies.
Again the "we" word, I would guess that you and some who may think like you would love to see the President walk into the oval office and close himself in until 2012. But that is not his style he is a President who continually reaches out to the public for support and opposing opinions, I understand it's hard to go from President Bush's type of leadership to President Obama's but you have another 7 years so maybe you will feel differently
The polls tell what the people feel about Obama and the job he is Not doing.
Right now Obama is not popular with the people due to his poor job performance and not doing what he said he would, along with the spending of way too much money.
Again as much as it bothers me to point it out you are either bordering on distortion or do not recognize the meaning of pluses "+" , look at the pluses "+" when they turn to minuses "-" then his job performance will be negative as long as those pluses "+" are present and let me say they are strong pluses "+" with one poll favoring his job performance by plus "+" 17 his job performance is positive in the minds of the majority of those polled | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 9:31:06 AM | Overall the polls show the big picture of Obama.
Like I have said many times sometimes it not really what one wants to see.
Actually in the beginning of the year I along with many others had some high hopes and beliefs in Obama and the polls showed this .
The poll numbers soon shrank as the people realized that we had the same administration working up in DC with just different names.(Just look at how many times people in the POF threads alone have said in defense of Obama "But Bush did it so what's wrong with Obama doing it")
The polls have dropped over 25 pts since Obama's inauguration because people are NOT thrilled anymore with how Obama has been handling things in DC.
People are unhappy with Obama because the biggest problems that Obama said he was man enough to fix he has not. In fact he has made most of those areas even worse.
The list of why Obama has only a 51.6% approval rating at 9 am on 10/28/09 goes on and on. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html )
The list of why Obama's approval rating fell over 25 pts since his inauguration and more than any other president in 50 years goes on and on. (post 223 and 206 has the back-up Obama having steepest fall).
The list of why Obama's approval rating is only higher than 2 presidents after 9months in office in the last 50 years goes on and on. (http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2009/10/21/poll-obama-worst-decline-in-approval-since-wwii/ )
Hey just maybe Obama will do something that might make us a bit more proud of him and his poll numbers will go up a bit. However, the fact is that Obama is having trouble staying in the 51 to 53 percent approval rating area. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 9:51:27 AM | You are posting a link from Alex Jones web site. You consider that credible?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)
Mainstream news sources have referred to him as a conspiracy theorist.[14][15][16][17][18] Journalist Michelle Goldberg has stated in The New Republic that Jones represents "an old strain of American conservatism--isolationist, anti-Wall Street, paranoid about elite conspiracies--that last flowered during the John Birch Society’s heyday."[19]
I post links to Politifact.com.
Politifact.com was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting in 2009 for "its fact-checking initiative during the 2008 presidential campaign that used probing reporters and the power of the World Wide Web to examine more than 750 political claims, separating rhetoric from truth to enlighten voters."[6]
Point is yes, Obama has not managed to keep all of his promises yet and, yes a few have been broken but he has kept and is working on many more than he has failed at such as these.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/ | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 9:53:08 AM |
Hey just maybe Obama will do something that might make us a bit more proud of him and his poll numbers will go up a bit. However, the fact is that Obama is having trouble staying in the 51 to 53 percent approval rating area.
Now you are using the word "us" to indicate whether you feel proud of the job "President" Obama is doing, "I" think he is doing a great job even considering the difficulties left to him by the last adminstration, not only am I proud of his job performance I am glad that the people elected "President" Obama to see our country through this difficult time
Now if you look at the RCP Job Approval Poll below you will see a plus "+" in front of the 7.5 as long as it stays a plus "+" that means that more americans think he is doing a good job then those who think he is not doing a good jod
President Obama Job Approval
RCP Average
Approve51.6Disapprove44.1Spread +7.5 {do you see the plus} | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 9:56:01 AM |
Hey just maybe Obama will do something that might make us a bit more proud of him and his poll numbers will go up a bit. However, the fact is that Obama is having trouble staying in the 51 to 53 percent approval rating area.
I look at that poll you link to and I don't see Obama leaving that 51-53 % range for several months now. What do you mean he is having trouble staying in it?
By the way, if health care reform passes with a public option watch his numbers jump to the high 50's. Bet on it.
That's why the Repuglicans are so desperate to stop him. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 12:00:36 PM |
By the way, if health care reform passes with a public option watch his numbers jump to the high 50's. Bet on it. That's why the Repuglicans are so desperate to stop him.
I have a feeling that since the biggest oppositon to the Health Care is the public option Obama's numbers will go even further downward if Health Care Reform is passed with a public option in it. Health Care Reform with a public option in it will be to Obama's poll numbers just like the aftermath of the Iraq War was to Bush's poll numbers.
Thats why since Reid's proposal some Democrats are jumping the fence into the Republican yard. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 12:10:36 PM |
Thats why since Reid's proposal some Democrats are jumping the fence into the Republican yard.
Are you sure because those pluses "+" I see were from todays polls so it appears that the majority of people approve of President Obama's leadership, BTW how did this thread topic include Health Care Reform
Now if you look at the RCP Job Approval Poll below you will see a plus "+" in front of the 7.5 as long as it stays a plus "+" that means that more americans think he is doing a good job then those who think he is not doing a good jod
President Obama Job Approval
RCP Average
Approve51.6Disapprove44.1Spread +7.5 {do you see the plus} | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 12:50:34 PM | "I have a feeling that since the biggest oppositon to the Health Care is the public option Obama's numbers will go even further downward if Health Care Reform is passed with a public option in it. Health Care Reform with a public option in it will be to Obama's poll numbers just like the aftermath of the Iraq War was to Bush's poll numbers."
Since you are so fond of plls, here are a few for you to ponder.
In September the Kaiser Family Foundation published a poll that stated :
<div class="quote">Fifty-seven percent of Americans now believe that tackling health care reform is more important than ever—up from 53 percent in August. The proportion of Americans who think their families would be better off if health reform passes is up six percentage points (42% versus 36% in August), and the percentage who think that the country would be better off is up eight points (to 53% from 45% in August).
Here is a Survey USA poll from August that states 77% of respondents support the choice of a public option.
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=5ba17aa2-f1b9-4445-a6b8-62b9d1ba8693
Here is a more up to date NBC/WSJ poll.
<div class="quote">As Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid moves forward crafting a Senate health-care bill that contains a public option -- with a state "opt out" -- the latest NBC/WSJ poll shows support for a government-run insurance plan at its highest level since the debate began.
According to the poll, 48% say they favor a public health plan administered by the federal government that would compete with private insurers, compared with 42% who oppose it. That's a shift from last month, though within the margin of error, when 48% opposed the public option and 46% supported it. And it's a 10-point swing from August, when 47% were in opposition and 43% were in favor.
In another question asked a different way -- is it important to give people a choice of a public option? -- a combined 72% answered that it was either "extremely important" or "quite important," while just 23% said it was "not that important" or "not at all important." Those numbers are virtually unchanged from last month.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/10/27/2109332.aspx
The more people learn about the public option, the more they like. They are also learning to tune out the lies and deceptive advertising being promoted by the insurance companies. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 1:05:05 PM | Every week he proves that he was the correct choice.As I showed clear proof on the 79% approval rating was before Bush left the white house and it is a poll on how do you think Obama is handling the transition.I come home from work and see 2 pages of bull walking around that fact like it wasn't shown.Everything mentioned but it.I already explained thats where the rating numbers came from 79% was a fluff poll and these other polls are for rating his performance.The 79% was 6 weeks after he had won while hew was awaiting Bush to leave the white house,I am not sure why you are being so dense.As for his performance polls they have stayed at 50 to 56% from the start,no wavering at all,steady,and he still has all the whiny haters,thats the same too.
As for the Public Option ,thats the best thing that could possibly happen,and I cannot believe the level of stupidity the republicans have towards it.They have been whining and spreading lies on how it will crush us since day one.The only Dems that are against are everyone of them that is in a largely republican state and their worry is about reelection not the health reform.Look it up as to who opposes it,you'll see !
As for the transition poll,most new presidents were at Club Med till they took office,Obama was hard at work,transition means how is this working out with his family,have you picked the white house room colors,have you picked which china,have you picked your people ,are you ready to move,hows your mood,and 79% said he was handling the transition fine.He had not even took office yet.
DO NOT COMPARE A FLUFF POLL ON TRANSITION TO A PERFORMANCE POLL. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 1:33:43 PM | I stopped bringing out Bush since the ratings that can be compared to Obama are a bit slanted due to Sept. 2001. When comparing ratings, one usually compares similar times to similar times.
But if want to keep comparing Obama to when Bush left office, we can compare Obama to Bush's 9th month in office
Ouch boy looks like Obama is in crap trouble then. Bush's polls ratings for his 9th month was above80%, . Actually at this time in Bush's term he had way higher ratings than Obama has ever seen in any of the polls......Just as a side note, It took Bush a lot longer than 9 months to fall 25% in the ratings. Yet Bush had a war, and Obama is still going down in the polls.
Since you are comparing Obama to Bush, seems that in 9 months Bush went up in his approval ratings about the same amount as Obama has gone down. Acutally Bush's approval ratings were pretty much above what Obama's are now until about 2004.
The fact of the matter with Obama approval ratings is that he has lost alot of his magic touch and approval as for the job he is doing.
If at the end of Obama's 4 years and Obama still has a 50% or higher rating then thats when you start the comparison. However it looks like Bush still had good ratings at the end of his first term http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2009/jan/16/george-bush-approval-ratings-america | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 1:38:58 PM | .
Ouch boy looks like Obama is in crap trouble then. Bush's polls ratings for his 9th month was around 80%, .
I bet the Bush Approval was around 80% in Iran............ 9-11
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 1:48:58 PM | The Gallup poll she uses had 45,987 people polls by telephone,Are you aware we have 307,000,000 in the USA,that means for every 6670 people,one person was asked there opinion.
A few other polls we had had debates from in the past had like 350 people,with a population in this country of 307,000,000,that means for every 877,140 people ,one person was asked their opinion.
The poll that asked about Obama handling his transition before he entered the white house ,had 1097 people polled ,with a population in this country of 307,000,000,that means for every 279,850 people ,one person was asked their opinion.
And some how people are trying to say these polls have significant meaning........Bull !
Your kidding yourselves,its for ratings,its to draw you in to read the story,its to sway your thoughts,its because they know you'll read there poll and come back next time,great numbers are what gets these companies a higher advertisement price to charge their advertisers .It makes them more money. Barnum was truly right.
I say it all the time,you put to much stock into these numbers.
How will you counter this post,you will act like you did not see it and you will post another poll.Dense,dense,dense. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 2:10:39 PM | Obama 69,456,897 which was 52.9% of the vote and McCain 59,934,814, which was 45.7% of the vote .There are 307,000,000 in the USA and out of that 130,000,000 voted for McCain and Obama.
So when they say 52.9% was for Obama and 45.7% were for McCain,that means no one heard from 177,000,000 people,albeit some were not voter age.
Its like a poll,the number you hear is very inaccurate,people here fight over poll numbers on a poll that consisted of the opinions of 350 people,and they swear that the majority of the country is upset with Obama because some 350 people said so,they further prove their point offering 3 more polls,each one of them consisting of a few thousand who were polled.They are too overcome with hatred to realize its only according to 350 people polled not the almighty word it sounds like as if 307,000,000 had spoken.
Its laughable ! | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 3:26:17 PM | Another little tibit of the OBama big summer time slide from AP.
Poll: Obama's rankings drop in Wisconsin
Associated Press - October 28, 2009 5:15 PM ET
MADISON, Wis. (AP) - President Barack Obama's approval ratings dropped by 10 percentage points in the latest St. Norbert College Survey Center Poll.
The poll shows that 50 percent of Wisconsin residents approve of the job Obama is doing. That is down from 60 percent when the poll was last done in April.
Thirty-eight percent of respondents say they think the country is going in the right direction. In the spring that was at 41 percent.
A majority, 59 percent, say they do not think Obama deserved to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Thirty-four percent say he did deserve it.
The random telephone poll of 400 residents was sponsored by Wisconsin Public Radio. It was done between Oct. 13 and Oct. 22 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.
http://www.wxow.com/global/story.asp?s=11402226 | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 3:54:31 PM |
Another little tibit of the OBama big summer time slide from AP.
Here's another even smaller tidbit showing that the Presidential slide is over, I personally conducted this scientific unbiased poll by calling one name for each letter of the alphabet from my local telephone directory, If I received no answer or a no opinion answer I picked another person whose last name started with that letter.
Out of the 26 that I called 17 were female 7 were males and 2 I was not sure off. 13 out of the 26 said they were very satisfied 7 said they were some what satisfied, 2 said they were unsatisfied and 3 said they were not satisfied and 1 said they were never satisfied.
So the conclusion would be that
2o were happy with the job President Obama was doing
5 were unhappy
1 admitted that he had never been happy
It does appear at least from this scientific poll that our President has a good job performance rating and that the slide is over
For more info go to IMTSU.COM | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 5:58:46 PM | Looks like 12 months has made a difference and right now it seems that Obama is tryin to battle for two state governerships or it won't look good for him. Obama's star has fallen and the sheen is wearing off.
Obama: Twelve months on, the star falls back to earthLast year he could do no wrong. Now he is on the stump in a desperate bid to avert a Republican fightback. David Usborne reports If Republicans seize the governors' mansions in both states, the embarrassment will be acute. That is just what happened in both New Jersey and Virginia back in 1993 before the Republicans seized control of the US Congress the following year, dealing a crippling blow to the newly minted Democratic president of the time, Bill Clinton. But even losing one of them next week will scratch the sheen of President Obama, who seems, one year on from his election, to be hovering in the view of most Americans between competent and fumbling, notwithstanding the high esteem in which he is still held abroad and, of course, in the minds of the Nobel committee. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/obama-twelve-months-on-the-star-falls-back-to-earth-1811148.html | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 6:08:58 PM |
Looks like 12 months has made a difference and right now it seems that Obama is tryin to battle for two state governerships or it won't look good for him. Obama's star has fallen and the sheen is wearing off.
According to the Poll you use his star is shining brightly look at that + 7.5 spread
President Obama Job Approval
RCP Average
Approve51.6Disapprove44.1Spread +7.5 {do you see the plus} | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 6:28:46 PM |
Looks like 12 months has made a difference and right now it seems that Obama is tryin to battle for two state governerships or it won't look good for him. Obama's star has fallen and the sheen is wearing off.
It does not give me any pleasure to report it but it looks like there is more bad news for the senate republicans.
http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/108035/gloom-spreads-on-economy-but-gop-doesnt-gain
In fact, disapproval of the Republican Party actually has ticked upward, along with the public's general pessimism. Asked which political party should control Congress after next year's midterm elections, Democrats now hold a clear edge over the GOP, 46% to 38%, a month after the Republicans were nearly as popular. In September, the Democratic edge was 43% to 40%.
Not wanting to add any thing more to the republicans troubles but it looks like the house democrats have a bill
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091029/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul
WASHINGTON – House Democrats reached agreement Wednesday on key elements of a health care bill that would vastly alter America's medical landscape, requiring virtually universal sign-ups and establishing a new government-run insurance option for millions.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi planned a formal announcement Thursday morning in front of the Capitol. Lawmakers said the legislation could be up for a vote on the House floor next week. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 7:21:58 PM | | That's what I'm talking about with your poll you gave for Wisconsin,lets see they have a population of 6,000,000 people and they got the opinions from 400, so for every 16,000 people that live in Wisconsin,they talked to one person ! Geez, Now we know exactly how Wisconsin feels, its as if you got right into the minds of all of Wisconsin . | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/28/2009 11:15:19 PM | Interesting how the RCP polls were used for proving an issue on another thread about Health Care, yet now ???
Must have worked look at these job approval numbers from real clear politics
President Obama Job Approval
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread
RCP Average 9/17 - 10/5 -- 51.6 41.6 +10.0 | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/29/2009 6:59:00 AM |
Interesting how the RCP polls were used for proving an issue on another thread about Health Care, yet now ??? interesting how you think that changes the fact that these polls that get an opinion off of polling one person out of 200,ooo people could mean anything.I have always said don't put trust in a poll sometimes they only talk to 300,000th of 1% sometimes.I do know many many people had to relentlessly fight you using your own weapons,a poll.You throw a meaningless poll out there like its something and they fight back using one,because odd as it sounds ,you trust polls completely.
Before I went to bed,the internet had this amazing breaking story on Obama finally is getting the negativity off the country.Why,why is he finally coming to grips,well its all clearly because of a 58% poll,concrete proof,then they state that 1097 were polled to get those earth shattering results,then claim its accuarte to like 1% plus or minus.
So out of 307,000,0000 in the USA, for every 279,850 th person ,they talked to 1 person for their opinion,wow,I mean wow,they are so right on top of the pulse of the country,that's outrageous,a person should be able to be sued after a poll try's to slander and defame him.Because after all some people actually do believe what 1097 normal average,might not know a shred about politics, people said,so much so that if they say it ,it only takes 1097 out of 307,000,000 to make it proof,that it is truly the feelings of the USA. If we could sit those 1097 down in a room and we could meet them,it would completely change the way you fell.
Hey the numbers don't lie,thats my point where are the numbers.Think about it,on an average out of every mid sized city they get the opinion of ONE person.
Bet you'll counter this with a poll,lol......................"2010 people polled prove that polls work"lol | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/29/2009 8:10:07 AM |
That's what I'm talking about with your poll you gave for Wisconsin,lets see they have a population of 6,000,000 people and they got the opinions from 400, so for every 16,000 people that live in Wisconsin,they talked to one person ! Geez, Now we know exactly how Wisconsin feels, its as if you got right into the minds of all of Wisconsin . Many that have had to battle you, and one or two other key Obama haters, have walked away wondering why don't they get these facts,what will it take!
After I send you a post ,like the logic behind the Wisconsin poll,do you say,wow,thats true,or wow,that really is just a small trace amount of their people polled,wow they only poll 1 person for every 16,000 people that live in Wisconsin .No,you come back and say,Interesting how the RCP polls were used for proving an issue on another thread about Health Care, yet now ???
How do people debate logic like that,on my post you only need to be a fifth grader to understand that 400 people out of 6,000,000 people is not going to represent the feelings of that state,any fifth grader could deal with those numbers,ones does not have to give it much thought,basic reasoning is enough to grasp the numbers involved here.Kids though would be open minded to incoming fact,they would not already be hell bent on getting Obama,defaming him,that's why logic does not prevail here,its a question between one of an open mind against one with an adult agenda.You cannot tell me that if 400 average people speak out,out of 6,000,000 that that means anything.You and I already know it,its not about that though,its about you defaming Obama at any personal cost,Whether we dissect your logic and prove it inadequate repeatedly is not important,its as if your reputation is worth the sacrifice to smear Obama,no cost to great.Look I state repeatedly your facts are wrong because you base your logic off of polls that use a trace amounts of the people and then all the way to the other side,gauging how many media people are telling jokes,or just the amounts of jokes for the week.I'm surprised Tarot and tea leaves are not in that nonscientific methodology you use.
When they state the poll is accurate to plus or minus 3%,you realize that does not mean the poll subject matter ,that disclaimer means their poll systems errors,their methodology can be trusted as accurate to plus or minus 3%.You do realize that don't you ! | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/29/2009 1:26:03 PM | Thursday 10/29 at 1:24 PM Obama's Approval Rating at RCP is now 51.4% --- Not much of a drop but a drop from yesterday.(yesterday was 51.6%)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html | |
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