| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/8/2009 6:05:24 AM | republicans have absolutely no interest in "the best interests of the people"... their only interest is in pushing forward a PROVEN failed agenda...
they accuse the left of socialism but the GOP and republicans follow their talk radio heros like germans followed hitler... while absolutely ignorring facts...
to earlzp... over the past 28 years... i.e. since reagan and trickle down... 3% of total wealth has been transferred from the most poor to the most rich... so when you're looking for those supporting an agenda that builds their own nest egg, you should begin with republicans... it was the greatest and most tragic transfer of wealth in this country's history! The poor didn't get trickle down... they got trickled on. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/8/2009 6:16:16 AM |
if the GOP would only work in a bipartisan fashion we might actually get something done that is in the best interests of the country but, that is not their agenda...
Strangely after being in the very bottom of the barrel of the polls the GOP are slowly working their way up. That is most likely due to their understanding and decision to work with their Constituents. Unlike the elected democrats who feel that it's better to bully, demean and call their constituents names.
Right now if Obama and his elected democrats have not realized America is mad as HECK at actually all of DC; Republicans and Democrats alike.
The ones recovering a bit are the elected republicans because at least they are looking like they are listening to their constituents.
Many Americans, including me are tired of the crazy spending and shoving of bills quickly down our throats that only put our country more in debt.
America DOES NOT want Obama's Health Care Reform Mess. America does want some Medical Reform but not what Obama and his elected Democrats are shoveing down and trying to pass.
That is why the GOP is working to keep it from passing. They are listening to the American people for once, so they are the ones right now getting the rise,ever so slowly in the polls.
If Obama and the elected democrats don't start listening they will not only see more slippage of their poll numbers but some number changes in the 2010 election. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/8/2009 6:53:54 AM |
America DOES NOT want Obama's Health Care Reform Mess. America does want some Medical Reform but not what Obama and his elected Democrats are shoveing down and trying to pass.
According to a recent Gallup poll Americans are actually pretty much divided down the middle, 37% support, 39% against, 24% with no opinion. This is all falling within the margin of error so it is safe to call it tied.
Demographically it goes as expected Democrats supporting reform and Republicans strongly against it with independents leaning against it.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/122822/Americans-Sharply-Divided-Healthcare-Reform.aspx
The group actually most passionate against health care reform is however seniors. I guess when you are already covered by a government plan its easy not to have to worry about the younger generation. I am always amused at the scenes from town halls showing seniors screaming about socialism while they are covered by a socialist plan and recieveing an income from Social Security.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/121982/Seniors-Skeptical-Healthcare-Reform.aspx
Seniors have unfortunately bought into the lies that they there health care will suffer because of the proposed reforms.
The AARP to there credit has tried to dispel some of these lies.
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourhealth/policy/articles/health_care_reform2.1.html | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/10/2009 2:01:50 PM | Believe it or not I was going to report if there was a rise or not in this approval ratings.
Due to the big hoopla at some threads with astronomical rise in obama health care reform I expected to see a rise of some sort of Obama's Approval ratings.
Looks like he is pretty much maintaing at the 52% range with a very slight drop from yesterday of about .3% .
Maybe it will take the results of the speech a bit of time to hit polls.
These are the results of Real Clear Politics which is an average of majority of current polls out there.
The high being Ipsos-McClatchy & CBS News @ 56% and the low being Rasmussen Reports @ 48%.
So currently Obama's Average Approval rating is 52.1% approve and 43.4% disapprove.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/10/2009 2:55:45 PM | "Many Americans, including me are tired of the crazy spending and shoving of bills quickly down our throats that only put our country more in debt. "
Absolute Facts...
Republicans have held the presidency for 20 of the last 28 years
Republicans have held control of the congress for 14 of the last 16 years
Republicans have held both the presidency AND control of the congress for 6 of the last 8 years...
In the same period, our national debt has gone from under $ 2 trillion to over $ 11 trillion...
I'm just curious to know who you think has been crazy spending and shoving bills down your throat?
Lastly... while many Americans are stupid, the notion that 100% of a group of folks all believe the same way (republican portion of congress) will inevitably be recognized for what it is... politics and not working in the best interess of the country... so polling might be one thing but actual votes in 2010 may be very different... particularly as more and more of the lower class are being mobilized to vote. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 7:06:09 AM | I'm just curious to know who you think has been crazy spending and shoving bills down your throat?
Well it's just not me that feels this way its many many Americans that are tired of the current American/DC politicians.
Strangely it was VERY evident at the 9/12 rally in DC yesterday Saturday September 12. Many many of the signs had to do with government spending and pork laden bills.
Whatever the numbers that attended it was quite evident that people were VERY ticked at our American government. Somewhere between 1.2 to 2 million Democrats, Republicans and independents showed up in DC to protest what our government is doing to us Americans.
Since the buck stops with the president as Obama has frequently said himself, President Obama was the focal point of numerous signs.
For such a big rally with so much publicity all over the internet and some media, it was really strange to discover that WH was unaware of it. I don't think anyone at the rally expected Obama nor would probably a speech by him have been well accepted. Yet the WH saying they were unaware of something so publicized sounds almost spooky.
The White House said Friday it was unaware of the rally. President Obama has traveled to Minneapolis, Minn., to promote his health-care plans at a rally there. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109628
Maybe it's time that the WH/Obama start listening to all people not just the ones lockstep with his policies.
It will be interesting to see how the 9/12 rally affects Obama's ratings.
http://americangrandjury.org/march-on-dc-draws-2-million
http://www.infowars.com/c-span-video-from-the-9-12-march-on-washington/ | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 8:14:25 AM | Whatever the numbers that attended it was quite evident that people were VERY ticked at our American government. Somewhere between 1.2 to 2 million Democrats, Republicans and independents showed up in DC to protest what our government is doing to us Americans.
There seems to be some discrepancy in the numbers being thrown about. ABC claims they have been misquoted as reporting a size of 1-1.5 million when in fact they reported 60-70,000.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protest-crowd-size-estimate-falsely-attributed-abc-news/story?id=8558055
The Washington Post put the number in the "Tens of thousands"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/12/AR2009091200971.html?hpid=artslot
Plus this blogger claims that some right wing web sites have been recirculating old pictures of a million man march from the 1990's and passing them off as the teabaggers rally in an attempt to boost the numbers.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/12/781227/-Teabagger-fail:-fake-pics-to-inflate-crowd-estimate-(updated-and-requesting-info)
Why do right wingers always feel the need to twist the truth? Or how would Joe Wilson put it? | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 8:17:06 AM |
Whatever the numbers that attended it was quite evident that people were VERY ticked at our American government. Somewhere between 1.2 to 2 million Democrats, Republicans and independents showed up in DC to protest what our government is doing to us Americans.
Your numbers come from sources that lie. Which means you're spreading lies.
http://americangrandjury.org/article_photos/live912.jpg
Look at the photo that supposedly "proves" how many people were there. Why is the Flag on the building at half mast? Why is this the only picture of the crowd being used to "prove" how many people were there?
Why are the reputable news organizations reporting no more than 70,000 | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 1:10:27 PM | Whatever the numbers, people took the time to go. Not just one hundred or two hundedred but hundreds of thousands showed up.
I really don't care if others don't believe or care.
To me and others it matters that this shows that is just not a small number of people that are upset. In fact, the ones of us who could not go did not expect such an enormous turnout. For almost every single person at the rally there were 5 or more that could not attend for various reasons.
Put the political blindfolds on.
I have a Strong feeling that come election time People are going to do more that just
"Duh I didnt relize people were that upset. "
http://americangrandjury.org/march-on-dc-draws-2-million
http://www.infowars.com/c-span-video-from-the-9-12-march-on-washington/ | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 1:25:13 PM | .
Whatever the numbers, people took the time to go. Not just one hundred or two hundedred but hundreds of thousands showed up.
The Promoters put the number at 30,000........... That is inflated....
Like I said on another op...
I watched 25,000 Oprah Fans in a Flash Mob Dance........... THATS impressive...
The Glenn Beck Fox Flop....................... less than 30k...Big deal...
Just like the 2 Million listening to Beck... So what....
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 1:33:01 PM | Wait now, you just completely dismissed the fact that most of the media without an axe to grind with Obama put the numbers WAY lower than those that do, and then blithely posted inflated numbers again. Do you even read what other people have to say?
What proof do you have that for each person at that rally, 5 more didn't go? At the MOST that would be 10 million who feel the way you do...
And why is 10 million an "enormous" number when they believe the way you do, but 47 million uninsured is a "small" number on the health care threads?
I hope the Obama supporters keep fighting the good fight and getting the facts out. The detractors are just a loud, noisy minority with nothing but emotional knee-jerk reactions to " back them up". | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 1:41:50 PM | | One of those impressive signs that were displayed at the big rally yesterday - "I voted for the REAL American". Tells you who those people really are. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 1:44:55 PM | .
Look at the photo that supposedly "proves" how many people were there. Why is the Flag on the building at half mast? Why is this the only picture of the crowd being used to "prove" how many people were there?
Why are the reputable news organizations reporting no more than 70,000
No way 70,000... Park police put the number below 30k... the Corp Media has to stick together... even with Murduck....
Thanks for checking the Birther site JPEG.... great for a laugh...
Is that the Anti war ralley that everyone ignored? The Half staff flag?
There were over 500k at that non event...
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 2:08:54 PM |
One of those impressive signs that were displayed at the big rally yesterday - "I voted for the REAL American". Tells you who those people really are.
Hey it bought up a very valid point of view.
It seems that signs similar to that are appearing all over the nation. There are Billboards popping up across the nation asking "where's the birth certificate" This is one of the issues out there that have some people changing their approval of Obama.
Overall it seemed that the vast majority of the signs at 9/12 were very well thought out.
I did find it interesting how the Joker image that took hold with anti Bush protestors has taken hold with the anti-Obama protestors. Also interesting is how everyone thought it was so funny during the Bush protests but now it's not?
Overall it looks like the 9/12 DC rally is probably very reflective of Obama Approval Ratings big slide downward in the recent months. For now it does seem like he is maintaing his 52-53% Approval rating. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 2:37:17 PM | .
Overall it looks like the 9/12 DC rally is probably very reflective of Obama Approval Ratings big slide downward in the recent months. For now it does seem like he is maintaing his 52-53% Approval rating.
9-12 was meaningless............
You will find no one to support the numbers you have posted...
Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks, the group that organized the event, said on stage at the rally that ABC News was reporting that 1 million to 1.5 million people were in attendance.
Related.........At no time did ABC News, or its affiliates, report a number anywhere near as large.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protest-crowd-size-estimate-falsely-attributed-abc-news/story?id=8558055
What the whole week of 9-12 has done is PO a lot of reasonable people.
The real Republicans are embarrassed. Independents, Liberals and Moderates are turned off...
The GOP offers nothing.... Run by a bunch of Children..........How much did the W/H have to pay Old Yeller?
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 2:54:05 PM |
And why is 10 million an "enormous" number when they believe the way you do, but 47 million uninsured is a "small" number on the health care threads?
Excellent point.
I wonder how many of those '10 million' have insurance.
I've asked this question before and never received an answer: If you are one of the uninsured, how do you plan to pay for medical expenses, should you incur them?
I you rely on Medicare/Medicaid, how is that different from what is being offered in the various HCR proposals being discussed?
Would you pay the bill yourself, by borrowing money?
Would you ask the government for help?
What would you do?
Obama's approval rating is basically meaningless at this point. This country is in a state of flux, and the numbers will go up and down accordingly. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 2:57:43 PM | MSBC first reporter said 10s of thousands, where the second reporter Tom Castillo says 'our won think its think 100's of thousands".
http://nightly.newsvine.com/_video/2009/09/12/3258199-thousands-pack-dc-to-protest-spending
Like I said whatever the numbers it was huge enough for those of us NUMEROUS people that have had it with the government;Democrats and Republicans alike.
Maybe this will not be seen until the 2010 elections but I'm willing to wait and do what I can to make sure our voices are heard.
Since the buck ends with the president, this is reflective of the presidents approval ratings being where they are. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 3:20:20 PM |
Tom Castillo says 'our won think its think 100's of thousands".
That doesn't make any sense at all.
Like I said whatever the numbers it was huge enough for those of us NUMEROUS people that have had it with the government;Democrats and Republicans alike.
'Government'? Or just this president.
And so generous to allow him to attempt to govern for eight whole months. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 3:34:46 PM | From the photos I've seen, it looks obvious to me there were as many people there or more than at the inauguration... Take a look for yourselves:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2338733/posts | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 3:48:54 PM | My msg 67
MSBC first reporter said 10s of thousands, where the second reporter Tom Castillo says 'our won think its think 100's of thousands".
Sorry about the error in spelling or type good thing I included the video.
What I said that Tom Castillo should read 'our own think it's 100's of thousands". which is seen in MSNBC's news report. hhttp://nightly.newsvine.com/_video/2009/09/12/3258199-thousands-pack-dc-to-protest-spending
From the photos I've seen, it looks obvious to me there were as many people there or more than at the inauguration... Take a look for yourselves:
It was a lot of People and I think that what Tom Castillo said was the closest. But looks like it's just another conspiracy plot from us people who have problems with the government now. Since the buck stops with the president, that means Obama is one of the main focal points.
I'm not worried anymore. Yesterdays' rally and the media's reaction has shown me that we proved a lot more than most realize.
For all the people that did go I THANK YOU.
DC's rally is reflective of Obama's approval and will probably have an effect on Obama's polls.
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 4:04:13 PM | Your original claim was this:
Whatever the numbers that attended it was quite evident that people were VERY ticked at our American government. Somewhere between 1.2 to 2 million Democrats, Republicans and independents showed up in DC to protest what our government is doing to us Americans.
Now you have backed off the number by about 90-95% and I think you are still too high. Most non biased reports have put the number between 30-60,000. You throw around the word "liar" pretty freely when referring to the President. How would describe yourself? | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 4:35:56 PM |
From the photos I've seen, it looks obvious to me there were as many people there or more than at the inauguration... Take a look for yourselves:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2338733/posts
Your site has fake pictures... at least one of the Pictures ...
flag is at half staff and National Museum of the American Indian (opened in 2004) Missing....
This is from the Promise Keepers in the 90's.............
I would guess the rest are fakes.... OR some other B/S
There are sites with the Traffic Cams...NOT even close to Jan 20th...............
real pictures....
http://img22.yfrog.com/i/7j0c.jpg/
http://img25.yfrog.com/i/5ig.jpg/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/12/781227/-Teabagger-fail:-fake-pics-to-inflate-crowd-estimate-%28updated-and-requesting-info%29
A number of right wing sites are passing off pictures that are clearly not from today as being from today. And in true teabagger fashion, the excuse for the discrepancy is the real live DC traffic cams that are false, not their fake pics.
Because anyone can say "why should I trust you – you can just take pics and say they are from winger sites", I won’t post the pics here side by side. But I will provide links to the sites where the pics are housed, so you can see for yourself.
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There are two main pics (meaning not from today) that are being recycled as if they were from today. Here is one, which just so happens to be the exact same picture from the "Promise Keepers" event held back in the 1990s. Not to mention that today was pretty overcast, and the sun is shining in the Promise Keepers’ picture.
And there is another obvious fake making the rounds as well – this one with so many things wrong with it, that you can make a game of "find as many things wrong with this picture being claimed to be taken today" out of it. - picture that is called into question (note, I am making the change here until I get confirmation on this from someone who knows DC better than I do) for a few reasons.
Here is another being used at The Minority Report as well as at Pajamas Media (Instapundit) - look around 1/3 of the way down labeled "ANOTHER TRAFFIC CAM PIC FROM DC" –http://www.trafficland.com/city/WAS/camera/9087/index.html
and as I said above, the reasoning used when the true live camera shots don’t show the crowd (among other things) is that DC is looping old tapes on a Saturday afternoon to hide the "massive" protest.
I kid you not.
So what else is wrong with that picture? Well, for starters, the flag is at half mast, which it was not today. Here is the actual live cam updated every 2 seconds, and you will see that the flag is certainly not at half mast. Also, the photo is missing the National Museum of the American Indian (opened in 2004), and the trees are a bit fuller in the pic than they are now. Update [2009-9-12 23:6:36 by clammyc]: As I am getting some questions on this, and as I said at the outset, I am not from DC, can someone confirm this bit? I do not want to pass along bad info, but there are things that don't seem to add up....thx.
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 4:49:10 PM | Oh I am SO glad you posted that crap! lol Nice ATTEMPT to discredit this, but SORRY, it just isn't going to work! 
Here is coverage from MULTIPLE news sources: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMoQDKHYM74
BTW - look closely at the flag on the left in the section from Associated Press 12 seconds into the clip... AND also the one from MSNBC 55 seconds into the clip, and again several other places... Did you notice it is at half mast? Did you notice the sky is sometimes cloudy and sometimes bright? Well, Are you going to accuse them ALL of falsifying images too? | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 7:42:32 PM |
[BTW - look closely at the flag on the left in the section from Associated Press 12 seconds into the clip... AND also the one from MSNBC 55 seconds into the clip, and again several other places... Did you notice it is at half mast? Did you notice the sky is sometimes cloudy and sometimes bright? Well, Are you going to accuse them ALL of falsifying images too?
Chalk one up for Americans who are just tired of what's been happening in DC.
Chalk one up for Americans who managed to group together to show the elected politicians at local state and federal levels that if you don't listen you will find your name a bit out of the loop come your next re-election.
Like I said earlier, it doesn't matter what they say, it's what we realize was accomplished yesterday on 9/12 in DC.
Shame that so many politicians keep turning a blind eye. I have a funny feeling that is why the approval ratings on Obama slid so much during the Summer, Obama hasn't been listening. | |
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| Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 9/13/2009 8:06:05 PM |
BTW - look closely at the flag on the left in the section from Associated Press 12 seconds into the clip... AND also the one from MSNBC 55 seconds into the clip, and again several other places... Did you notice it is at half mast? Did you notice the sky is sometimes cloudy and sometimes bright? Well, Are you going to accuse them ALL of falsifying images too?
I'll just accuse the guy that put this clip together of falsifying a story line and mixing in the half mast with other sources to make it appear it was on 9/12. And I'll accuse anyone that tries to prove I'm wrong of getting sucked in by winger propaganda.
That is, unless you can come up with links to reputable news outlets that show flags on that building at half mast on 9/12.
Maybe you can show me a reason for flags to be at half mast on 9/12. | |
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