| How might Extraterrestrial's contact humans ?
Posted: 8/5/2009 8:55:41 AM | There are many links available for those that are searching
plenty of interesting reading at a site that is geared for whistleblowers and researchers
Project Camelot..
http://projectcamelot.net/
also for information regarding contact refer to
Project Serpo
http://www.serpo.org/
enjoy the reads and information. | |
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| How might Extraterrestrial's contact humans ?
Posted: 8/5/2009 9:21:45 AM | Most of the UFOlogy community is a joke. As Richard Hoagland eloquently stated,
"The lie is different at every level." I don't believe 95% of that crap floating around. It's all part of the grand deception. Contacts, those who have contacted, those who contact and receive info. First off, the beings often contacted are lying and deceptive, and have their own agenda.
A lot of those on project Camelot have been greatly deceived and are very much caught up in this whole Matrix. You got guys like Dan Burish who have obviously been shown a little bit of the puzzle, but the info given to him and most others is distorted throught misinterpretation, one's own personal biased, and agendas.
The matrix is a system built upon deceipt, realize what your up against, and everyone and anyone and their grandmother is caught up in this system.
I'm a part of it, so don't trust anyone or anything other then your gut! That has more truth then damn most any supposed truths, wisdoms, or insights. It is all of this but internal, not contaminated by the b*shit outside disturbances.
Here's another hint, if you got guys like David Wilcock and David Icke making you pay for this info DO NOT TRUST THEM! They have a financial agenda, and their greed has distorted the truth.
This deception runs so damn deep, nobody knows who, what, when, where, or why to believe ANYTHING!!! in this reality.
This is frustrating, because nobody here seems to really be using their imagination of what a being which has evolved millions of years ahead of us is capable of? Their stuck in the space of here and now.
At this stage they have probably mastered the very possibility of manipulating entire galaxies. If we as a species can manipulate an entire planet, what is to stop something millions of years ahead of us from manipulating an entire galaxy and even an entire beings physical reality?
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Posted: 8/5/2009 11:41:25 AM |
You got guys like Dan Burish who have obviously been shown a little bit of the puzzle
even a little piece of the puzzle exposed , means there IS a puzzle !
simular to an iceberg..the real deal is hidden below the surface
The truth here also lies beneath the surface.....for now anyways | |
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| How might Extraterrestrial's contact humans ?
Posted: 8/5/2009 12:15:57 PM | But their elaboration on their own interpretation of the information and what they think it means could have very dire effects on the rest of the species.
the cube is just that, a probability. There is nothing set in stone, as long as we have individuals like this throwing people seeking the information into even deeper and more complex holes, it muddles down the real truth that much further. This is what has and was designed since the beginning. I keep my theories very simple, because I simply don't know just how much I myself have been deceived and lied to.
The intentions may be sincere, but the information is seldom as such. I've gone down the spiritualist path, the ufologist path, and numerous others, they have often been wrong before, and this will continue to be the case. Psychics and Scyeres have long been acknoledged throughout history, but long discreditet. This is because their visions have only minimal pieces of the true. Their own magnified delusions, religious dogmas, beliefs, and perceptions have distorted these truths to the point where they are no longer believable or credible. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2009 8:00:12 PM |
But their elaboration on their own interpretation of the information and what they think it means could have very dire effects on the rest of the species.
We all form our own interpretations when viewing information
like is the glass half full or half empty kinda thing
interpretations vary by reader and speaker.
I've gone down the spiritualist path, the ufologist path, and numerous others,
What would you produce if you had one chance
to show the world evidence of any type of ET life ?
Lets say you had the attention of cnn or mainstream media in general
and they are saying..convince us.
Outside of your interpretation of things....do you have any evidence ? | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 6:22:37 AM |
Most of the UFOlogy community is a joke. As Richard Hoagland eloquently stated
Well, quoting Richard Hoagland hardly adds credibility. He's built a career based entirely on the flimsiest of evidence. But then, he's making money using one of the oldest methods there is...appeal to people's gullibility. As P.T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute."
nobody here seems to really be using their imagination of what a being which has evolved millions of years ahead of us is capable of? Their stuck in the space of here and now.
And why would aliens capable of "manipulating an entire galaxy" want to speak to barely evolved monkeys like us?
People always get the discussions "is there life in the universe" and "are aliens visiting us" mixed up. Is it possible there are other planets with life? Very high level of probability because of the high number of possible abodes for life and the availability of "raw materials." However, what are the chances they evolve to something more than single-celled organisms? That is hard to guess. It took our planet about 3 to 3.5 billion years to get beyond this stage. And simply saying a thing can happen doesn't mean it does happen or happens a lot.
Is it possible there are "super advanced" aliens? Sure. Can it be proved? Sorry, no. There is no actual evidence they exist and certainly nothing to say they have been visiting us. But, again, it would be nice if people simply asked the question...why would they want to? If they're advanced enough, then they already know of other life, other civilizations, so having company in the cosmos isn't the answer. There would actually have to be an over-arching reason to put in the time, effort and resources. I can't think of any. Can you? | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 8:47:56 AM | Galaxy
If we were to pass each other on the street and you tipped your hat
I would ask if I could buy you a beer
I am sure we would have plenty to talk about
Stargazer
In the link I provided about Serpo
it talked of planet locations and oother astro facts regarding gravity etc
do you have any documents that prove that that is hogwash
I am looking for documents...not your thoughts
Now in regard to your thoughts...
what is the astro comunnity saying about
friday aug 14 ?
Its going to be an amazing night from what I hear
mark that date on your calender folks !!! | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 10:11:40 AM | According to Michio Kaku, they would probably be predators. He based this notion on the fact that we're predatory and we're the most intelligent creatures on this planet.
Hard to imagine the good doctor making a statement like that. Talk about speculative assumptions.
He wrote about the likely predatory nature of aliens in Hyperspace.
I'm not sure why aliens would come here, to tell the truth. I just feel it would not be random, and provoked by some reason we may not be able to understand (yet). Unless they needed our help.
Perhaps because, in the last 50 years, we've become a nuclear nation that's actually USED "the bomb" and we're hell bent on weaponizing space (which of course we are) and now we're in THEIR backyard. I don't think they need our help but I sure think we need theirs.
Ah, yes. I remember reading about that. Someone once commented that our planet might look like a star to careful alien observers, because of our nuclear tests. That might get their attention - those thermonuclear blasts. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 10:24:11 AM |
do you have any documents that prove that that is hogwash
I am looking for documents...not your thoughts
Uuummmmm...so you want me to prove a negative? That something doesn't exist? Sorry, but the onus of proof is on you.
However, considering the size and amount of...um..."information" on the site, if there's something specific you want me to address, let me know.
In the meantime, here's a link to an organization that has a much better chance at contacting aliens.
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
I'd also recommend reading Seth Shostak's book. Not only is it an entertaining read (I love the way he writes), it also asks some rather pointed questions to the UFO/abduction/crop circle/Roswell believer. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 11:19:27 AM |
Sorry, but the onus of proof is on you.
Ok lets play it out that way...here is my proof
http://serpo.org/
I know SETI has been around a long time
but I see that as a pacifier that was given to shut those
people up that say why dont we' look' out there
its a deversion of the most amazing planet of them all ...Earth
ET life is already on earth and has been for centuries
yet the goverments and those in contact with these EBE,s
want to keep people looking UP at the pretty rocks out there in space
its all a deversion in my eyes , and I just dont buy it
I think we are getting closer to being told the truth
and at some point in OUR lifetime ..we will know.
anything on 8/14/09 ?
its going to be a pretty amazing night for skywatching
I hear we are going to see something we have never seen before
only I am hearing different explainations
to the root cause of what we are going to see | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 11:27:55 AM |
Which book by Seth Shostak is that? I see four books from him since the 1980's.....
Confessions of an Alien Hunter. It's his new one. If you look for it at your local book store, sadly, you may have to look in the "new age" section under aliens. Yup, it's right next to alien visitors and anal probing. Sad, I know. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 12:07:00 PM |
Ok lets play it out that way...here is my proof
http://serpo.org/
*sigh* Okay, well, a website isn't "proof." It's just, as far as I can tell, another alien conspiracy theorist whack-job's website. Oh, but I did notice that a lot of his tips come from "anonymous." Hmm, nothing suspicious about that.
I know SETI has been around a long time but I see that as a pacifier that was given to shut those people up that say why dont we' look' out there its a deversion of the most amazing planet of them all ...Earth
Okay, if I were a member of the SETI team, I would find that statement not just a little bit insulting...certainly dismissive while being a clear indication of your own close-mindedness.
How do you think "contact" is going to be done? Really? So far, after years of bald-faced assertions that there's aliens in our back yard, we have yet to see actual proof beyond fuzzy handicam videos and arrogant talking heads calling the rest of us gullible fools if we don't believe them.
In the meantime, a dedicated group of people who believe that yes, there are technological civilizations out there capable of sending radio signals into space, are actually doing hard, frequently unproductive and largely thankless work. Instead of being congratulated on their doggedness, vision and dedication in the pursuit of one of the most important scientific finds in our history, they're accused of being a "diversion." Please!
You know what, if some of you true believers had half the "open-mind" you expect the rest of us who dare to ask the tough but important and intellectually honest questions, you'd be surprised what you actually might learn.
Ah, I feel cleansed.
anything on 8/14/09 ? its going to be a pretty amazing night for skywatching I hear we are going to see something we have never seen before
Interesting. So a simple annual meteor shower becomes...what? you see, this is where some of the problem lies...the attribution of miraculous qualities to something that is relatively mundane.
You're, of course, talking about the annual Perseid meteor shower which is simply the leftover bits of dust from a passing comet that will be streaking across our night skies. Actually, the shower has started. I even saw a couple this past week while visiting family in northern Ontario.
However, between the Aug 12/13, you should expect Zenithal Hourly Rates - the measurement of the frequency of meteors - to hit about 70 an hour. That's very nice. WIth the moon out of the way, it should be even nicer since the light of the moon is the bane to seeing faint meteors.
However, sorry to say you won't hear cosmic message, you won't ascend to a higher level of consciousness...if you enjoy looking at the night sky like me, you'll simply have an enjoyable night of seeing bits of dust and gravel light up the night sky in faint to bright streaks.
And that alone is worth the effort. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 1:26:50 PM | *sigh* Okay, well, a website isn't "proof." It's just, as far as I can tell, another alien conspiracy theorist whack-job's website. Oh, but I did notice that a lot of his tips come from "anonymous." Hmm, nothing suspicious about that.
Thats the best ya got ?
calling it a CT , whackjob...um ok...like that wasnt expected
based on what ?..have any proof its a CT
or is that just your expert opinion ?
How do you think "contact" is going to be done? Really? So far, after years of bald-faced assertions that there's aliens in our back yard, we have yet to see actual proof beyond fuzzy handicam videos
Contact WAS done ..long before you and I were born
before the bible..before the Koran...
many of the wtnesses that have come forward these days are credable people
Pilots , military , police...the list goes on
do you need to actually RIDE in one before you consider the possibilties
Okay, if I were a member of the SETI team, I would find that statement not just a little bit insulting...certainly dismissive while being a clear indication of your own close-mindedness
They are doing there best...this isnt on them
they too have been decieved..perhaps more then all of us
this is much bigger then pointing the finger at anyone alive today.
You know what, if some of you true believers had half the "open-mind" you expect the rest of us who dare to ask the tough but important and intellectually honest questions, you'd be surprised what you actually might learn.
ya mean if us half brained people were more like you
then we would be smart like you ?...hmmm...
I dont need to comment on that one do I
but glad to hear it made you feel better..lol.
Interesting. So a simple annual meteor shower becomes...what? you see, this is where some of the problem lies...the attribution of miraculous qualities to something that is relatively mundane
ahh you assume to much my friend
I wasnt talking about a meteor shower..we all seen those before
but since your into the stars and all that I thought you might have heard already
about something that is going to make everyone look up in amazment
since its going to be something we have never seen before
NO ....not the shower..
but I am looking forward to watching that as well.
Lets just see what unfolds on the 14th shall we ?
I give my word I will return to this post on the 15th
either to gloat and say why didnt you see this coming
or to eat some humble pie and say I was wrong
either way ...
I stand on my info regarding the 14th untill then. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 1:46:19 PM |
ya mean if us half brained people were more like you
then we would be smart like you ?...
Um...more like if "true believers" were actually more inclined toward being open minded, they might actually learn something that was even more amazing than the 'special truth' that they and they alone carry and the rest of us are just too gullible and deceived to possibly be aware of.
Kinda like....
they (SETI) too have been decieved..perhaps more then all of us this is much bigger then pointing the finger at anyone alive today
Well, since they are actually doing the science, I suspect they might know more about it than either you or I. Along with astronomers, biologists, astrophysicists...oh, I forgot. They're frequently in on the "big conspiracy" to hide the truth. Never mind the fact that any actual evidence of extraterrestrial life would multiply their research budgets by factors of many.
but since your into the stars and all that I thought you might have heard already
about something that is going to make everyone look up in amazment
since its going to be something we have never seen before
Like...what? What's your source? What do they say is going to happen? What direction? Do you have R.A. and Dec. coordinates?
?..have any proof its a CT or is that just your expert opinion ?
Hm, hidden information available only to the writer from an anonymous source "within" the organization...nope, couldn't possiblity be a CT site. Not at all.
many of the wtnesses that have come forward these days are credable people
Pilots , military , police...the list goes on
You mean credible witnesses can't be mistaken? Can't have mistook prosaic phenomenon for a fantastical one? Can't be lying? Or that stories can't have expanded with their retelling? | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 2:07:41 PM |
...something that is going to make everyone look up in amazment
since its going to be something we have never seen before
NO ....not the shower..
but I am looking forward to watching that as well.
Lets just see what unfolds on the 14th shall we ?
Hmm... I'm kind of curious as to what he's talking about too. 
Can you give us at least a hint?  | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 2:49:09 PM |
Um...more like if "true believers" were actually more inclined toward being open minded
have to excuse me as I have no formal education
grade 8 science and left school in grade 9 to start work
but doesnt that sound like a oxy-moron ?
how could someone with a closed mind become a True believer in the first place ?
that they and they alone carry and the rest of us are just too gullible and deceived to possibly be aware of.
never once claimed that I ,and I alone knew anything
there are many like me who believe...
yet people constantly try to single everyone out
as the" ONE" who knows..typical skeptic responce
the believers number in millions....nice try tho.
Like...what? What's your source? What do they say is going to happen? What direction? Do you have R.A. and Dec. coordinates?
Your the Stargazer and you ask me this ?
I really admire the things you must have seen over the years
the sky facinates me ...
even tho I havent seen what you have...
how could I possibly deny what YOU HAVE seen over the years..
thats what skeptics do.....deny everything untill they see it themselfs
my mind is very open Stargazer...I question everything
People assume that NASA and other organization
see everything that happens out there and know whats going on around us
we get comfort in that when we go to bed at night
but thats not the case at all is it ?
If it was then they would have said
"Hey everyone watch the comet smack into jupiter tonight"
as happened just recently...but no...
so how much faith is it I am supposed to put
into SETI or any other of thier deversions ?
Hm, hidden information available only to the writer from an anonymous source "within" the organization...nope, couldn't possiblity be a CT site. Not at all.
would it make people feel better if they called it a C.I
or do you not believe there is any such thing as a
Confidential Informant either ?
I cant believe this is the best you have to discreadit this information
I am sure there have been a few of these skeptics on here
pouring over that site and document over the last week
trying to find the loop holes...
I can just imagine people would love to rip me a new one
and show me what a fool I am ...for believing such nonsence
skeptics live for those moments dont they...lol
Skeptical ....yet they got to post on every thread there is about ET life.
The site names dates , times , names etc..
back check the names...are they made up names ?
research the site with an open mind...
untill you find something that you can factually rip apart
then by all means share it with us...
its not me against you here...I admire what you do know
and again just because I havent seen what YOU HAVE seen
dont mean that it isnt true does it
Indeed someone needs to open thier minds
I am just not so sure it needs to be me. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 3:17:41 PM | Mister Logic
I think its something that many have
already noticed in the back of thier minds
tell me you havent taken a double look at the sky
within the last month or so with a question in your mind ?
I would rather let this unfold before I say anything else about 8/14
I am still trying to sort it out myself
but was hoping Stargazer was able to give insight into that date
It seems that "Jupiter is at Opposition "
it will bring Jupiter in very close range of the earth
and will provide an amazing view with even the naked eye
add binoculars or a telescope and we should be amazed
http://www.idialstars.com/ja14.htm
The reason I was hesitant to post anything
was because of this other site I stumbled on earlier
that talks of a "luminus star "....
just wanted to seperate if this was in relation to that...lol
http://www.share-international.org/index.htm
enjoy the links folks...keep looking up ! | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 3:36:00 PM |
It seems that "Jupiter is at Opposition " it will bring Jupiter in very close range of the earth and will provide an amazing view with even the naked eye add binoculars or a telescope and we should be amazed
Ah, I see. Now I understand...Yes, next Friday Jupiter is at "opposition" but don't worry. That happens every 13 months. It simply means that Jupiter rises as the sun sets and is visible in the night sky all night long. Nothing more and certainly nothing less.
Here's the thing...Jupiter does get a little brighter and a little bigger in a telescope. However, it will still look much the same to the naked eye then that it does now. Binoculars of 7 to 25 times really won't show much. The disk really needs 100 times magnification to see any real detail.
As for Share International...well, there are several ways to get rich quick in this world. One is pose as a prophet. Prophet of profits, as it were. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 4:57:14 PM | Without having read the thread in it's entirety...
I would suggest they do exist. The odds for other life being out there are very good when you factor in how much space there is out there. We don't even know how big it really is. From what I have read and seen on various documentaries it's probably to big for us to even wrap our limited minds around.
I also think that we are to primitive for them to really want anything to do with us. Look at the world;
- We have developed enough nuclear weaponary to destroy ourselves like 20 times over.
-Since man has ruled the planet we have constantly killed each other in massive wars over our version of various gods which probably do not even exist.
- We are like a parasite to mother earth consuming its resources on a scale which is not renewable
All this in a very short time span (relative to how long the planet has been able to sustain life) that we have had control of the planet.
If there are alien life forms out there right now looking at us, why would they want anything to do with this mess? | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 5:35:23 PM |
If there are alien life forms out there right now looking at us, why would they want anything to do with this mess?
Maybe because they would see us as a 'normal' intelligent species and not be so pessimistic and judgmental in their view of us. Maybe because intelligent life is very rare and there could always be things we could learn from each other or ways we could help each other. Maybe because as intelligent beings they would see that we are much like them and other intelligent species, flaws and all. Maybe they wouldn't have seen too many Hollywood movies and wouldn't quite agree with the very popular view that we are such horrible and irredeemable creatures but rather a fledgling species doing it's best to thrive and progress. It's just a thought. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 5:44:42 PM |
Ah, I see. Now I understand...Yes, next Friday Jupiter is at "opposition" but don't worry. That happens every 13 months
I never said I was worried...
what I did hear tho is THIS opposition is different
instead of it being 500 million miles away
it will be around 200 million miles
close enough to show 4 of the moons with the naked eye
As far as share international , I stumbled upon that site
and have yet to read much of it.
From what I read at Serpo , there was a survivor of rosewell
they kept him alive for a period of almost 10 years
communicated with him and he also communicated back
he was able to message his people about the crash
and he disclosed much about thier planet...40 light years away
arrangements were made and an exchange took place years later
12 military men left for a journey that took 9 months
2 died en route
2 died on the planet
8 returned 10 years later and gave thier briefing of thier time there.
It was during the time of the live alien that
the US were told of other alien life forms that were hostile
it was then that the goverment spent million on the "Star wars program"
claiming it was in case of russian missles or something.
they wouldnt lie to us would they ?...lol
anyways I find it an interesting...
and it reminds me of watching a chess game backwards
things just kinda make sence after the fact
Technology flew after rosewll....
things around today that are grandparents couldnt even imagine
then again we couldnt imagine them either just 20 years ago
cell phones , home pc , digital cameras..etc..etc
were people in 1946 so stupid they didnt think of any of this ?
all of a sudden modern marvels everywhere you look
we are all witness to inventions we never even dreamed of
untill rosewell that is. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 5:58:26 PM |
what I did hear tho is THIS opposition is different
instead of it being 500 million miles away
it will be around 200 million miles
close enough to show 4 of the moons with the naked eye
Wow, that would have to be a huge (and very sudden) orbital eccentricity. Anything that could pull Jupiter out of its orbit that much would be a much bigger problem and one we wouldn't likely survived. Indeed, by now, we'd all likely be dead. Sounds like a variant of the Mars hoax.
Jupiter's moons (at least the two outer ones) are generally visible in even a small pair of binoculars. The closer ones get a bit into the glare but sometimes show up in higher magnification binos. A telescope does the trick with all of them.
As for aliens not wanting anything to do with us because of what we do to the planet, that really presupposes a lot but mostly makes them very...human. Of course, there's every possibility that we might have things in common since we both are capable of developing and using technology. But since we don't know yet how these aliens are built, we're limited in the assumptions we can make.
What seems to be missed is that, if aliens are advanced enough and capable of travelling light years through space wanted to contact us, don't you think they would choose the most efficient means possible? They are an advanced civilization after all. Surely they would have analyzed our level of technology and figured out that we are capable of receiving radio broadcasts. A strong, sustained and unequivocal signal from say the orbit of Pluto would be hard to miss. Pretty straightforward, really. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 6:22:10 PM | well all I know is I will be out there on the 14th with my sky-watcher 5.1
just need to make sure I have enuff tinfoil for me and my dog
its my first scope and I enjoy it alot
altho I need to learn my way around the night sky yet
If no one hears from me again ya know I been beamed aboard
just hope they let me fly it for awhile..hehe | |
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