| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/9/2009 10:07:34 AM | Again, Keeper.... that would be difficult to enforce and install. Many elderly are on very limited budgets and yes, many are on foodstamps and government assistance - and money is super - tight and they cannot eat certain foods due to medical reasons.
To limit what TYPES of food one can purchase with government funds is in a sense what Obama and his Commrades are trying to do to the American Public with this healthcare plan... take something that doens't fit a LOT of people or will even AID many (unless you are a non-citizen) and shove it down everyone's throat.
We already have WIC, which limits what TYPES of food one can get with them... FoodStamps should be for food. Period. I'm not a fan of rice and pasta - but i have a son with hollow legs. I think many times my best culinary efforts are wasted as food never hits his tastebuds. For the majority of the month, i do buy fresh and attempt to cook in a healthy manner, but by the end of the month, my dollar is beyond stretched and I'm forced to cook in a manner that hardliners about that sort of thing wouldn't agree with.
In many cases, foodstamps isn't enough and a provider has to consider ways to stretch the budget. Unless the government is willing to regulate food prices (which at this rate, I sort of expect) the truth is fresh and organic is MUCH more expensive than canned or processed. And even trying to stretch that government dollar, certain people are determined we all have a part of, it's not enough. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/9/2009 3:01:46 PM | Hey guys, I got an email today about a program that will be on Fox News tonight. If you're interested the email follows:
"Mark your calendar - This Sunday [August 9, 2009] on Fox Cable News, Sean Hannity, of Hannity & Colmes ~ Fox news, is going to air a very important documentary about Barack Obama, Sunday night at 8:00 PM central / 9 PM eastern. He stated on the air this evening that no one in the news media was willing to do this. Hannity is going back to Obama's earlier days, showing even then his ties to radical professors, friends, spiritual advisers, etc., he stated this evening that he will show in detail his ties to Rev. Wright for 20+ yrs...How he was participating with this man, and not for the reasons he states! He has uncovered more of Obama's radical leaders and we will see things that no one in the media is willing to put out there. This will be a night that you will learn more about Obama than ever before. Hannity is very passionate about this program and asked that everyone please, please watch~~
Sunday night, 8 PM. CT; 9 PM ET
Please pass this on to everyone you know. Democrat or Republican, you can learn from this. It is critical for our country." | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/10/2009 3:04:43 PM |
Not Fox news. The guy that sent me the email
My mistake.
So you mean a right wing e-mail about Obama misrepresented the truth.
Who would have thought?
I'm just trying to encourage people to seek out the truth for themselves, that's why I posted a link to look at the actual healthcare bill.
ALL of the media has its biases, whether left or right leaning.
And the biggest bias they all share: Profit.
Question the actions of others.
Kenneth Gladney is the self descibed "victim" from the townhall fight.
He currently is uemployed and has no health insurance. At the protest at the union hall, he was asking for donations for his medical bills.
This guy is either a delusional hypocrite, or someone is paying for his time. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/10/2009 6:07:13 PM | So you mean a right wing e-mail about Obama misrepresented the truth.
Why the sarcasm? Obama and Company have been clouding the truth for quite some time. Who knows WHERE the email came from. Might have been a joke the liberals were playing.
*whistles innocently*
Why is a roadtripper from Canada - which quite frankly has sub-standard healthcare compared to our current health care - so interested in watching us put the hatchet in our own backs?
Think about it.
I simply don't understand why we can't HAVE a choice! I want to keep my healthcare. Why do I have to take healthcare I don't believe is comparable or will give me the options I have now! Why the FORCING of making ME switch. Do they need my money to pay for non-citizens???
oooops! Did I SAY that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqMKK8AoLCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNXv1Aspj8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIV4TwYMyDQ
Three videos showing very clearly what will happen to our healthcare if we are forced to take ObamaCare.
and here... we have a live action of Canadian Health care...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw&feature=fvw
TOP TEN INDICATORS THAT YOUR EMPLOYER HAS CHANGED TO OBAMACARE:
(10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.
(9) Directions to your doctor's office include "Take a left when youenter the trailer park."
(8) The tongue depressors taste faintly of Popsicles.
(7) The only proctologist in the plan is "Gus" from Roto-Rooter.
(6) The only item listed under Preventive Care Coverage is "an apple a day.."
(5) Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill last month.
(4) "The patient is responsible for 200% of out-of-network charges," is not a typographical error.
(3) The only expense covered 100% is "embalming."
(2) Your Prozac comes in different colors with little M's on them.
AND THE NUMBER ONE SIGN YOU'VE JOINED OBAMACARE:
(1) You ask for Viagra and they give you a Popsicle stick and Duct Tape.
And more Steve Crowder! See!!!!! Republicans do HAVE a sense of humor. So sad, this is how liberals really think...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9toIlCkcfBA&feature=channel
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/10/2009 7:24:50 PM |
Why is a roadtripper from Canada - which quite frankly has sub-standard healthcare compared to our current health care - so interested in watching us put the hatchet in our own backs?
We do not have a "sub-standard" healthcare system. In fact when you look at most measures of healthcare quality, Canada has a better system with better results than the American system.
http://apps.who.int/whosis/data/Search.jsp
We have a lower infant mortality rate, we have a longer life expectancy, and we even have a slightly better cancer survival rate.
And the reason I care, is because I care about people, and I think it is shameful how healthcare is treated as a luxury in the U.S.
I simply don't understand why we can't HAVE a choice! I want to keep my healthcare. Why do I have to take healthcare I don't believe is comparable or will give me the options I have now! Why the FORCING of making ME switch. Do they need my money to pay for non-citizens???
Please show me any passage within the bill that would deny you a choice in your healthcare.
we have a live action of Canadian Health care...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw&feature=fvw
I actually watched this video yesterday. It is pure bs.
To start with, the clinic they visit that is closed, is a dermatologist. Most dermatologist are not open on weekends. However the Ottowa/Hull area (where it was filmed) has plenty of 24/7 walk-in clinics.
Healthy early 20 year olds don't get free cholesterol tests, because they are not nessesary. If a test was warranted, like if he had weight issues or a family history of clogged arteries, he would have recieved it for free immediately.
These fools went to an ER for a fake wrist injury on Canada Day (it's like the fourth of July). Of course they were told to wait, they were not an emergency. Would you prefer someone with a real emergency wait, so a doctor can put a band-aid on his boo-boo.
The tax rates presented are 100% false. Canadians on average pay a slightly lower rate than Americans (and that is all taxes combined).
Although there is a shortage of doctors (caused by the multi-million dollar salaries for American doctors) finding a family doctor does not take 4 years or anywhere close.
I moved to a new province a few years ago and found a new family doctor right away, my choice.
In the video, when they tell him 4 years to find a doctor, it's because a healthy 20 something is not a priority for the program. They expect able bodied people to seek out their own doctors. Elderly people usually get assigned a new doctor within a month or two.
I also like how in the video they allude that the one friend is commiting healthcare fraud.
I assume he is not really commiting the fraud, because you would have to be stupid to admit on video that you are commiting an indictable offence.
They also fail to mention that healthcare in Canada is managed by the individual province.
Since everyone likes to be antidotal, I'll tell you all about my last visit to an ER.
A few years ago I had a bad wipeout while skiing. The ski patrol suspected I might have injured my spine, possible dual femur breaks, and internal bleeding, plus the big gash through my left eyebrow, ya it was a bad fall.
Once I was stabilized, I was brought to the bottom of the mountain where an ambulance was waiting.
When I arrived at the hospital, it was pretty busy with the typical skiing injuries, sprained wrists, broken thumbs, and twisted knees. But because of my situation, I was met at the door by a doctor and two nurses. They quickly made sure I was stable, checked me over for a concussion or dangerous enternal bleeding. About ten minutes later I was under a full body x-ray. The doctor reviewed the x-rays imediately.
Luckly the only thing I broke was a ski, a pair of sunglasses and a medium sized tree.
About twenty minutes later, I recieved 4 stiches through my eyebrow. The doctor wanted me to stay overnight for obsevation, but I decided to leave against his will (I had to sign a form).
So because of how bad I looked (torn ski suit, and blood everywhere) some people had to wait a bit longer. But everyone got the care they needed.
Now here's the funny part of the story. I forgot my wallet at home that day, with my healthcare card.
All I provided to the hospital was my name and address (my ski pass did have my name on it). So a few weeks later I received a bill from the hospital stating I was a non resident.
The bill was for the ambulance ride, full body x-rays, 4 stiches, neckbrace, and all the little things spent on checking me out and the doctors time, the nurses time and the x-ray technitions time, the ski patrol is paid for by the resort.
Grand total $600. How much would an incident like this cost in America?
Lucky for me I am Canadian and simply had to go to the hospital with the bill and my healthcare card. I simply showed both to the receptionist, she hit a few keys on her computer and I was done.
This occured in a small town of about 10,000.
My sister just recently gave birth. She has nothing but positive things to say about her treatment from healthcare. She had tons of visits to her family doctor and her neonatal physician. When the big night came, everything went smoothly. Later at around 12:30am when I showed up, it took only a few minutes for a nurse to wrap up my little nephew for some pictures.
Does this sound like a broken system?
I know Micheal Moore's "Sicko" was dishonest in choosing London Ontario for what is a normal Canadian Hospital (London is a University town, Moore went in the summer when most students are elsewhere), but this PJTV video is blatent lie after blatent lie. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/11/2009 4:38:12 PM | well, I've read all 1000 plus pages of the health care bill.
It's STILL a piece of crap. I'm convinced the liberals are either brain-washed or sharing the same single squished brain cell. I've contacted my congressman and told him I think it's crap and if he votes for it, he'll lose my vote and I intend on contacting my Senator and tell him the same thing. I believe our government can do a better job than this.
What I have and pay for is superior to what will be forced down our throats.
It's okay Rebel. I know what you really meant and won't twist it into something it isn't. I didn't get the email, so I figure it was a chain email started by that 'grassroots' organization. 
Still trying to figure out the difference between their 'grassroots' and our 'warmongering'.... looks the same to me. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/12/2009 7:52:03 AM |
"Mark your calendar - This Sunday [August 9, 2009] on Fox Cable News, Sean Hannity, of Hannity & Colmes ~ Fox news, is going to air a very important documentary about Barack Obama, Sunday night at 8:00 PM central / 9 PM eastern. He stated on the air this evening that no one in the news media was willing to do this. Hannity is going back to Obama's earlier days, showing even then his ties to radical professors, friends, spiritual advisers, etc., he stated this evening that he will show in detail his ties to Rev. Wright for 20+ yrs...How he was participating with this man, and not for the reasons he states! He has uncovered more of Obama's radical leaders and we will see things that no one in the media is willing to put out there. This will be a night that you will learn more about Obama than ever before. Hannity is very passionate about this program and asked that everyone please, please watch~~
Sunday night, 8 PM. CT; 9 PM ET
Please pass this on to everyone you know. Democrat or Republican, you can learn from this. It is critical for our country."
I would be very careful. It sounds like hype to keep his popularity up. Hannity is a well know disinfo dissimenator mixing half truths with lies. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/12/2009 4:07:07 PM | Actually, it seems today that Obama is mixing a LOT of untruth...
First he claimed that AARP was backing the plan.... and they aren't and have been most vocal that they've not endorsed it.
And then he claimed he's been working with Johnny Isaakson on this... you know, our Georgia Senator???
Johnny says he's not heard a peep from 'our' President.
As for Canadian Healthcare.... I have more than 30 friends who live in canada. Not a one the health care. They come from all walks of life and are spread over quite an age range and range from very healthy to not so healthy. basically, they say it's good... if you're healthy.
I also based my opinion - which you've not changed - on several reports and articles showing that if you have a critical illness, such as cancer, you're waiting list for an mri or anything of that sort, you might be in for a long wait. There is a reason why PRIVATE MRI clinics are opening in Canada... and there is a reason why a lot of Canadians come to the US for medical care, if they can afford it. When four people, I know WELL and personally, tell me there is a quota and if the quota is full, you have to wait until the next year....
That's a pretty crappy healthcare system to me.
As for the insurance... I don't remember what page, BUT the fact is in five years, ALL insurance companies will have to join the US Nationalized Healthcare plan. There will be no private insurance... all are on the plan. It's a one size fits all mentality.
Nope. Not buying it. I'm sorry you're upset you can't convince me and I really do'nt care if I don't convince you. I did read the bill and yeah, it bored me to tears. But I read it very carefully.
I don't like it. There are too many maybe's and what on it. Just too many beaurocracieis to be created and with their fingers in it. Why is the IRS part of it and why do they demand my bank account in order to 'transfer funds'...
See, as much as I hate it, my taxes are going to go up. That Man promised mine wouldn't go up a single dime. But it's going to go up a LOT of dimes.
I don't like that non-citizens get it for free. Why??? Why are they speshul??? They work here too. Why shouldn't they pay for it?
I understand a FEW people are whining about the 'mob' mentality. That's their choice. What they need to realize is that the 'mob' has been referred to for many years as The Silent Majority. We've remained silent because we are aware that everyone has a right to their opinion. You do. So we remained quiet.
We're not going to be quiet anymore. Get used to it. get over it already. It's called 'Free Speech' and last I looked - we still had it. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/12/2009 4:45:04 PM | Please show me any passage within the bill that would deny you a choice in your healthcare.
There is none. You would be allowed to keep what your employer gives you if you choose too. Now the kicker, what does it cost your employer to drop your health care? The "fine" would be $750 per year per employee. Much cheaper than covering you. How many employers will continue to pay premiums that far exceed that amount to keep you covered? Or will they "drop" health care coverage, forcing you onto Obamacare to save big money?
Another topic is abortion. Will this system pay for abortion on demand? The Dems say no. But they refuse to put in language that specifically says that. Why? And why the rush to pass this? It took the Obama's almost 6 months to decide which dog to get for their kids. But we have to pass health care reform in 3 weeks? No time to discuss or research? Smells a lot like the stimulus package. Don't give em time to read and understand this. Or they might decide they don't want it. I've asked this before but have yet to get an answer. If this bill is so great why isn't Congress and Co going to par take ?
As for my "blunder" all it amounts to is a mistake on my part for posting something that a friend sent me that I didn't research. I usually do my homework before posting but this time I messed up. It's nothing more than that. For those of you that want it to mean something else all I can say is that by twisting my post to suit your purposes, you lost credibility with me. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/15/2009 10:26:25 PM | Well to answer Rebel's question about abortion on demand. The answer is absolutely. They are following a doctrine of genocide. Anti-life. Thank God many of us choose life. I think the glovbalists bit off more than they could chew with US.
"No greater love hath a man that lay down his life for his friend"
Obama said we aren't a Christian nation? Yes we are. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/16/2009 2:24:36 PM | wht gets me is Obama trying to lay "blame" for this bill not having passed om republicans, or even the current health care system, on republicans.
IT is yet another political ploy by him to keep him and his fellow democrats in power. See, what he doesnt want your average guy to know is, he doesnt need 1 single republican to vote for this bill, to get it passed. So it must be someDEMOCRATS that are holding it up.
a side nore about the vast DEMOCRAT majority in the house and senate. TAXES for all of us will likely go up, to fund this bill, despite Obamas threats to VETO any tax hike. DEMOCRATS hold a VETO OVERRIDE power all by themselves! Obama knows this, thats why he cvan say, "I WILL VETO ANY TAX INCREASE" hoping the average guy believes him , KNOWING darn well that vetoe would likely get overturned, just so he could "appear" as if he isnt raising taxes. Which for me, will go up in 2010, as the Bush tax cuts will then be expired.( Mine went down from a 28% bracket to a 25% bracket with those Bush tax cuts. Thses democrats must think 40 grand a year is RICH! ) Or they juts like proporting lies to get power.
Another reason why Obama blaming republ;icans is so full of BS.
I don't recall the BUSH admin doing ANYTHING with health care, besides leaving it alone, letting it run on its last reform! GUESS WHO did that 1!!!! OBAMA needas to look no farther than to his SEC OF STATE for that!!! Yessir! HILLARY CLINTON. Granted, her huby got the credit, as he was thr PRESIDENT OF THE USA at the time! By the way folks, THAT policy did take CHOICES away from us! Those HMO's and PPO's told us which doctoras the insurance would cover, and which ones they wouldnt! So I am just refering to a plan, sponmsored by Democrats that has been in practice For over 10 years, that has proven to limit personall choice, as a referance as to how much MORE choice that any DEMOCRATS healht care bill will restrict in REAL LIFE!
MY opinion? Those who want Canada's health care system, shouldnt they just move to Canada?
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/16/2009 3:50:47 PM | Most of those ON Canadian Health care, don't want it... Super Ryan not included.
When I went to my townhall meeting with my rep, someone asked him about keeping their own health insurance policy and his response was - yes, for 5 years. After 5 years, your healthcare has to follow the guidelines (IE rules and stipulations) of the government's healthcare and fall under its umbrella.
So yeah... we'd have a choice.... kinda like Communism... you can chose dis guy or dat guy, it's the same party...
It's like the 'death care' policy... funny liberals and dems said it's not there, you're just misreading it... and then there is great show taking it out...
Many years ago, my brother (who makes me look middle of the road he's soooo conservative) said the best way to have this country run by responsible people was to let the liberal/dems have it lock stock and barrell for at least 2 years. Thing is, how long will it take us to dig out of the hole they've put us in in 8 months? No one ever SPENT their way out of debt. And according to current polls, the Majority Senate Leader is up for reelection in 2010 and his position looks very very very precarious. LEt's hope his isn't the only precarious position and we can at least get some of these spendaholics out of Congress and the Senate. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/16/2009 5:14:00 PM | | It may take us a while to dig out from the mess the liberals are putting us in, but we'll start that in November of next year. People had forgotten the term "tax and spend Democrat" was more than just a cute little bumper sticker slogan. Hopefully they won't forget again. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/16/2009 8:54:26 PM |
When I went to my townhall meeting with my rep, someone asked him about keeping their own health insurance policy and his response was - yes, for 5 years. After 5 years, your healthcare has to follow the guidelines (IE rules and stipulations) of the government's healthcare and fall under its umbrella.
So yeah... we'd have a choice.... kinda like Communism... you can chose dis guy or dat guy, it's the same party...
It's like the 'death care' policy... funny liberals and dems said it's not there, you're just misreading it... and then there is great show taking it out...
Many years ago, my brother (who makes me look middle of the road he's soooo conservative) said the best way to have this country run by responsible people was to let the liberal/dems have it lock stock and barrell for at least 2 years. Thing is, how long will it take us to dig out of the hole they've put us in in 8 months? No one ever SPENT their way out of debt. And according to current polls, the Majority Senate Leader is up for reelection in 2010 and his position looks very very very precarious. LEt's hope his isn't the only precarious position and we can at least get some of these spendaholics out of Congress and the Senate.
Now this girl got it going on ^^^^
Zees...you are a true patriot and one thing about you. You do your home work :)
Gotta love that. Hey, can I ask a personal question and maybe I should have looked it up first so I don't look so stupid. Is "Zeesmuset" a song? Or musical piece I should say. I think it is but I could be wrong. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/17/2009 3:38:58 AM | 1. Dem's used to be known as 'The Tax and Spend' Party... looks like they STILL are and people are getting tired of it.
2. Actually, ZeesMuset is a spin on my original name here - ZeesMuse. When I re-upped, I didn't want ZeesMuse2 (should read as Zee's Muse or Zee's Musette) so I went with the musette end. Somewhere here, there is a thread on how we got our online nicks and I have a rather humorous post...
Good morning everyone! I'm kinda wondering where our mornin' thread is at. I'm heading to work after being side-lined for 4 days with Vertigo. So not fun....
and 3. Looks as if they are going to be compromising BIG time on this health care package. Scrap and rehaul, folks. The one you tried to shove down our throats is a piece of CRAP! The mob spoke and finally, Big Government listened. The Silent Majority is silent no longer. | |
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| Obama Supports his Cousin Odinga' Killing of Black Christians
Posted: 8/17/2009 6:05:33 PM | | I wouldn't bet on #3 Zee. They have something up their sleeves. I think that's just to change the subject and shut us up while they finalize things behind our backs. They may reach a compromize, but Obama's government will still take control of healthcare one way or another. They're not about to let it drop now. | |
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Hehe...I think in the coming months and years you're going to have many more of these moments...where things you thought and heard from 'the right' are not what you were led to believe.
