| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 6:23:19 PM | Just keep pounding your stats folks.
I prefer the international opinion of Canadian as peace keepers (yes, that is so blown lately), and people who give of themselves during international crisis ie. major weather damage etc.
Some want to go to coffee shops and hockey games, and some want to work on international relief efforts. I have no percentage of how many Cdns. do international relief, but the rest of the world gets it.
I have walked into rooms and people from other countries have come up to me (they already knew me) and told me how impressed they were with Cdns. who gave of themselves in.....................................whatever.
Personally, the above is ultimate to me..............how many think we play hockey or go to Hortons unimportant. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 6:38:11 PM | ^^^
moraima - Msg 203
I prefer the international opinion of Canadian as peace keepers (yes, that is so blown lately), and people who give of themselves during international crisis ie. major weather damage etc.
Nothing more Canadian than a large freighter canoe loaded to the rim with Tim Hortons donuts. We can launch it in Algonquin Park, and distribute the donuts to moose, beavers, loons, bears, and hungry international tourists. I just need another muscular paddler who wants to give herself and pitch in after the treacherous thunderstorm weather we had here a few days ago. Hockey experience not required. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 7:08:22 PM | | This was not a discussion about values or altruism, it was a discussion about what Canadians identify with and have become iconic symbols. Specifically Tim Horton's....coast to coast...and beyond. Which by the way is no different than Germans identifying with their beer, the French with champagne or Italians with red wine. As much as individuals attempt to maintain their individuality within a group, there are always common elements within groups that link them together. Most are able to retain their individuality even though they identify with certain or multiple groups. It is our soul that makes us individuals but also allows us to be part of the growing oneness. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 7:28:20 PM |
I have been living in Canada for decades. I have never watched a hockey game. My late husband didn't watch hockey games. Our friends didn't watch hockey games. My friends now never play or watch hockey. Yes, we skate. The same goes for scoccer, football, basketball, baseball etc. Many people don't watch sports on tv or in real life.
Why is it people can only see other people as being just like they are. No wonder Canadians can agree on an identy.
Just like Horton's many Canadians pass on things others try to convince the world is totally Canadian.
I have been living in Canada for almost 6 decades (in fact, born here), and still refuse to watch professional hockey on TV. I will, however, get up at 4AM to travel and watch the little ones play their favourite game on ice. I will also pay for a ticket to a Junior A game, where the players are on ice for the love of the sport, and not the ungodly amount that the NHL pays the players. Moraima, please get over yourself. You have lost the fight, and are spouting your venom at people who no longer care what your opinions are. Hockey, basketball, lacross, and Timmies are Canadian, and we love them, and praise them. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 7:29:55 PM | "This was not a discussion about values or altruism, it was a discussion about what Canadians identify with and have become iconic symbols. "
And there I thought what made Canadians different and valuable from other nations in the mind of people of other lands was important................
Guess only Hortons counts for anything here. I so don't want to join that oneness. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 7:40:48 PM |
And there I thought what made Canadians different and valuable from other nations in the mind of people of other lands was important................
That is a completely different discussion and is not relevent to the topic at hand. If you would like to invite a discussion on that basis, I would welcome participating is such a thread. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 7:50:49 PM | Never been to Canada but figure that Timmies and all the fun things and places is a Safe Zone from .......You know who ... Please pass the Timbits ... | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 8:01:33 PM | Comply and love Hortons or else. When a thread is on about how great it is, don't dare say it doesn't work for you, or "they" won't like you.
I just figured out why people cling into each other when they travel rather than figure out what is important to the rest of the world................their world is their culture. Nothing else exists ..........they must comply............ | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 8:10:20 PM |
Just keep pounding your stats folks.
while you keep pounding your dead horse.
face it - it ain't just dead... it was long ago a wet spot on the pavement that dried. but you can't leave it alone... | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 8:11:37 PM | | For the record, not only do I not drink coffee, but I havent spent a dime at Tim Hortons in over 5 years. I do recognize that many of the people I work with frequent the establishment, even though they are from over 40 different cultures and countries. So....I dont say this because of what my individual preferences are, but in terms of wah this discussion is all about....the relevence of Tim's to POF dating, which evolved into a discussion on iconic references to Canada. There is no attempt to brainwash anyone or have everyone homogenize, just pointing out what is obvious to MOST Canadians. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 8:16:20 PM | "many of the people I work with frequent the establishment, even though they are from over 40 different cultures and countries"
and many don't..................obvious to MOST Cdns..............not not really, but you folks wouldn't be getting so upset.............too funny | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 8:27:01 PM | | Moraima, I have hesitated to say so, in so few words, as I felt it was polite to explain the reasoning with both data and evidence through experience, (yet another Canadian trait, that you will likely find erroneous) I will for the purpose of ending my contribution to this debate. You are flat out wrong on this issue. End of. I am neither upset or find this laughable, but you have the right to your opinion regardless. For that too is decidely Canadian. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 8:49:09 PM | | Well, they do say that Canadians don't have much of a sense of humour and I guess there is some substance to that since some Canadians can't handle an admittedly frivolous and light hearted thread. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 8:52:33 PM | I'm looking for the spot in this thread on which one must clearly bang one's head.  | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 9:02:11 PM | I can't believe no one brought up the great Canadian Icons, Bob and Doug McKenzie. Now those boys were a couple of hosers eh. Or another Great Canadian, Red Green, without whom Duct Tape would be just something to tape ducts.
Us Canadians really do have our heroes, and the previously named are as important to us as the Kennedy's are to Americans, or Gandhi was to Indians. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 9:12:24 PM | Dumbing down to so called Icons to Canadians.....................so sad. Go ahead explain that to the world...................ew.
I feel shame with how so many see themselves, and try to sell it of foreigners................there choice however.
Get back to me when you discover the other sides of Canada. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 9:13:35 PM | ^^^^ Post 216 - Long live the duct tape. I've found several very inventive uses for it. <img
src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_203.gif border=0> 
One in particular springs to mind after reading that last post.
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 9:17:09 PM | | Red Green and his duct tape? Sure! But let's not forget Kenneth Taylor, the former Canadian ambassador to Iran and world famous passport forger. Hope someone bought him a Timmies! | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 9:24:01 PM | moraima - Ms 218
I feel shame, ... That's understandable
with how so many see themselves, and try to sell it of foreigners.....there choice however. I didn't understand this part | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 9:50:48 PM | Dumbing down to so called Icons to Canadians.....................
Maybe someone can go to live in Cuba and raise the IQ in Canada and Cuba . | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 9:54:21 PM | ^^^
Maybe someone can go to live in Cuba and raise the IQ in Canada and Cuba
That's a constructive idea - coming from an impartial international observer | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 10:16:26 PM | oh c'mon.
Tommy Douglas, CCF, Winnipeg General Strike, the Rebellions of 1837 (including both Upper and Lower Canada and parts of the West). Mr. Trudeau gently snaffling back the constitution from Her Majesty. The non-lethal members of the FLQ. This Hour Has Seven Days. Ed Broadbent. Romeo Dallaire. Claude Jutra...
Proud lefty, non-comformist, sometimes dangerous deep history.
Seriously, I think Moraima has a point, or a few of them. But I totally don't get why it needs to be an argument here. There's simple identifiable stuff of all kinds-- the CN Tower, for heck's sake. The Great Lakes and Niagara Falls, that I think Canadians can identify with. But with our ingrained, and quite liked, usual sense of irony...
Moraima that's what I'm missing in your posts on this thread. Most of this stuff, including that we know Mounties don't look like that, really has a deep sense of irony. viz Bob and Doug, mentioned above...
JMO but i am sincere about the irony. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 10:39:29 PM | I am a Canadian,
free to speak without fear,
free to worship in my own way,
free to stand for what I think right,
free to oppose what I believe wrong,
and free to choose those who shall govern my country.
This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind.
John Diefenbaker (From the Canadian Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960)
If you are too young to drink coffee, this is how you define Canadian---many schools are now reciting this simple statement immediately after the singing of the anthem. | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/12/2009 11:01:51 PM | Man... Just because SOME US Citizens don't know what Tim Hortons is don't hold it against them. They just need to watch some hockey and look at the boards around the goalies. Sometimes around the benches.
The BIG question is...... Man, WHAT the heck was BOB Gainey thinkin when he fired Guy? This is comin from a guy in Texas!
BTW... Gord came down a few months ago... The guy looks frail but still puts on a great show...
Maybe Gary Betman can be the President of POF!!!! hahahahahah.... Man, I bet every Canuk will want my head for that line!!!!
Renoir
BTW... Wanna make an Aussie laugh..... Say the word "ROOT" as many times in a sentence as possible! | |
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| Tim Hortons / POF Alliance
Posted: 8/13/2009 4:21:57 AM | To dave, message 222:
Here I was, about to suggest you come on up to Canada for a visit to see just how hospitable and friendly a bunch we truly are, when you go and say that we should go to Cuba to have our IQ raised!!
No matter whether we like/ dislike or have never experienced Tim Horton's coffee or been to a hockey game, we are good people, with every right to post our opinions here on POF or anywhere else. Same goes for you and your fellow Americans. | |
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