| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/8/2009 10:47:50 AM | "Congratulations. By making stuff up and posting extremely vituperative comments you managed to take a thread off topic."
Being in favor of banning water based on hype is about as silly as claming Bush is out to kill children based on hype...
Sorry to punk you... but I was making a point... We see things through the "lenses" of our partisanship and sometimes can easily fall victim to believing rhetoric and hyperpole... If you go back and reread what I said, the facts I presented about water were all true... The rest was opinion, rhetoric, and hyperbole...
If people had actually watched the video clips I posted, or googled "dihydrogen monoxide" themseves, and got the facts BEFORE forming opinions - I would have been called out on my very first post on the subject...
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/8/2009 11:01:37 AM | Go back...
Nobody expressed any opinion about dihydrogen monoxide. Everybody just commented on your over-the-top rhetoric. | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/8/2009 11:08:11 AM |
He he he you realllllly don't get the joke. No... no they don't... at all
See...
We see things through the "lenses" of our partisanship and sometimes can easily fall victim to believing rhetoric and hyperpole... If there was ever any doubt about that. | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/8/2009 11:10:36 AM | Nobody expressed any opinion about dihydrogen monoxide. Everybody just commented on your over-the-top rhetoric.
Actually I said it was found in tumors. So did the link to the video I posted. Water IS found in EVERY tumor. Then, you labeled it a "carcinogen" and it went from there... The other comments were based on people's various partisan predudices...
Yes, I did use over the top rhetoric, which was met by equally over the top rhetoric... That's my point... If anyone who participated in that discussion had actually googled "dihydrogen monoxide" before wading into an argument over it, you would have just been laughing at me the way I'm laughing at this playground crap...
Did you see the second video clip I posted yet? HUNDREDS of people signed up to BAN WATER...
Don't be mad... I know you can take a joke... :) | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/8/2009 2:58:06 PM |
Yes, I did use over the top rhetoric, which was met by equally over the top rhetoric... That's my point... If anyone who participated in that discussion had actually googled "dihydrogen monoxide" before wading into an argument over it, you would have just been laughing at me the way I'm laughing at this playground crap...
So your response to children being injured and dying from faulty playground equipment is to laugh and call it crap | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/8/2009 3:03:49 PM |
So your response to children being injured and dying from faulty playground equipment is to laugh and call it crap
No - my response to blaming Bush for it is to laugh and call it crap :)
That would make about as much sense as blaming the FDA for bihydrogen monoxide deaths ;) | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/8/2009 3:17:51 PM |
No - my response to blaming Bush for it is to laugh and call it crap :)
I am learning how to distort and twist facts to make them appear to support my position it beats the hell out of having to have a legitimate postion to agrue from
That would make about as much sense as blaming the FDA for bihydrogen monoxide deaths ;)
Show me where I said any thing about blaming the FDA for bihydrogen monoxide deaths
I punked you it wasn't very hard | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/9/2009 8:46:24 AM | Yea..Looks like Bush is at fault here. I guess we are going to forget about the admins before his...Typical of Munjoe and Earl to overlook the OBVIOUS truth of the matter. Lack of parental supervision in the public playgrounds and teacher supervision at the schools.. I remember as a kid in the 60's and 70's that the swings were made from steel and had chain ropes holding a wooden seat. The playgrounds of today are very much safer but yet the left has to have something to cry about so why not invent a B.S. story like this one?
http://www.cdc.gov/HomeandRecreationalSafety/Playground-Injuries/playgroundinjuries-factsheet.htm
Playground Injuries: Fact Sheet Overview
Each year in the United States, emergency departments treat more than 200,000 children ages 14 and younger for playground-related injuries (Tinsworth 2001). Occurrence and Consequences
* About 45% of playground-related injuries are severe–fractures, internal injuries, concussions, dislocations, and amputations (Tinsworth 2001). * About 75% of nonfatal injuries related to playground equipment occur on public playgrounds (Tinsworth 2001). Most occur at schools and daycare centers (Phelan 2001). * Between 1990 and 2000, 147 children ages 14 and younger died from playground-related injuries. Of them, 82 (56%) died from strangulation and 31 (20%) died from falls to the playground surface. Most of these deaths (70%) occurred on home playgrounds (Tinsworth 2001).
Cost
In 1995, playground-related injuries among children ages 14 and younger cost an estimated $1.2 billion (Office of Technology Assessment 1995). Groups at Risk
* While all children who use playgrounds are at risk for injury, girls sustain injuries (55%) slightly more often than boys (45%) (Tinsworth 2001). * Children ages 5 to 9 have higher rates of emergency department visits for playground injuries than any other age group. Most of these injuries occur at school (Phelan 2001).
Risk Factors
* On public playgrounds, more injuries occur on climbers than on any other equipment (Tinsworth 2001). * On home playgrounds, swings are responsible for most injuries (Tinsworth 2001). * A study in New York City found that playgrounds in low-income areas had more maintenance-related hazards than playgrounds in high-income areas. For example, playgrounds in low-income areas had significantly more trash, rusty play equipment, and damaged fall surfaces (Suecoff 1999).
http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2html/pdf2html.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.preventinjury.org%2FPDFs%2FPLAYGROUND_INJURY.pdf&images=yes
PLAYGROUND INJURY Play is an essential component of healthy development in children, and playgrounds provide an opportunity for children to develop motor, cognitive, perceptual and social skills. Unfortunately, playgrounds are often the sites of unintentional injuries. The leading cause of playground equipment-related fatalities is strangulation, and the majority of these deaths occur on home playgrounds. Nonfatal playground equipment-related injuries, on the other hand, are most often due to falls. The majority of these nonfatal injuries take place on public playgrounds, including school, childcare and park playgrounds. In a 2000 survey, U.S. playgrounds received an overall grade of C when rated on the presence of physical hazards and behavioral elements, including supervision and age-appropriate design. Adults are responsible for creating play environments that are challenging for children but also reasonably safe. Utilizing age-appropriate equipment, following a regular maintenance schedule, limiting equipment height and maintaining adequate surfacing, combined with adult supervision, can greatly reduce the incidence and severity of playground injuries. PLAYGROUND DEATHS AND INJURIES · Since 1990, at least 147 children have died from playground equipment-related injuries. Nearly 70 percent of these deaths occurred on home playgrounds. · In 2002, more than 215,500 children ages 14 and under were treated in hospital emergency rooms for playground equipment-related injuries; children ages 5 to 14 accounted for nearly 75 percent of these injuries. The public playground equipment-related injury rate among children ages 5 and under has doubled since 1980. WHEN AND WHERE PLAYGROUND DEATHS AND INJURIES OCCUR · It is estimated that one-third of playground equipment-related deaths and 75 percent of playground equipment-related injuries occur on public playgrounds. · Playground injuries are the leading cause of injury to children in childcare and to children ages 5 to 14 in schools. · Lack of supervision is associated with 40 percent of playground injuries. A recent study found that children play without adult supervision more often on school playgrounds (32 percent of the time) than playgrounds in parks (22 percent) or childcare centers (5 percent). · Strangulation resulting from entanglement and entrapment is the primary cause of playground equipment- related fatalities, accounting for nearly 56 percent of the deaths. Falls to the surface are responsible for an additional 20 percent of the deaths. · Approximately 70 percent of playground equipment-related injuries involve falls to the surface, and 10 percent involve falls onto equipment. · Falls are the most common mode of playground injury and account for approximately 80 percent of all playground equipment-related injuries. Head injuries are involved in 75 percent of all fall-related deaths associated with playground equipment. · Nearly 40 percent of playground injuries occur during the months of May, June and September. · The majority (53 percent) of injuries that occur on public playgrounds involve climbing equipment, while the majority (67 percent) of injuries that occur on home playgrounds involve swings. WHO IS AT RISK · Female children have a slightly higher risk of sustaining playground-related injuries than males.
· Children ages 5 to 9 account for more than half of all playground-related injuries. background image · Children ages 4 and under are more likely to suffer injuries to the face and head, while children ages 5 to 14 are more likely to suffer injuries to the arm and hand. · A young child is at increased risk of injury when playing on equipment designed for older children. Only 42 percent of U.S. playgrounds have separate play areas for children ages 2 to 5 and children ages 5 to 12, and only 9 percent have signs indicating the age- appropriateness of equipment. · The risk of injury is four times greater if a child falls from playground equipment that is more than 1.5 meters (approximately 5 feet) high than from equipment that is less than 1.5 meters high. · The risk of injury in a fall onto a non-impact-absorbing surface such as asphalt or concrete is more than twice that of falling onto an impact-absorbing surface. It is estimated that only 9 percent of home playgrounds have appropriate impact-absorbing surfacing around stationary equipment. PLAYGROUND INJURY PREVENTION EFFECTIVENESS · Protective surfacing under and around playground equipment can reduce the severity of and even prevent playground fall-related injuries. According to a 2002 national survey, 75 percent of public playgrounds lack adequate protective surfacing. · A recent study found that the rate of playground-related injuries at North Carolina childcare centers dropped 22 percent after a law was passed requiring new playground equipment and surfacing in childcare facilities to conform to U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission guidelines. PLAYGROUND LAWS AND REGULATIONS · Playground equipment guidelines and standards have been developed by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and the American Society for Testing and Materials. At least seven states have enacted some form of playground safety legislation.
· The CPSC has issued voluntary guidelines for drawstrings on children's clothing to prevent children from strangling or getting entangled in the neck and waist drawstrings of outerwear garments, such as jackets and sweatshirts. Children are at risk from strangulation when drawstrings on clothing become entangled in playground equipment. HEALTH CARE COSTS AND SAVINGS · The total annual cost of playground equipment-related injuries among children ages 14 and under was estimated to be $1 billion in 1998. PREVENTION TIPS · Avoid asphalt, concrete, grass and soil surfaces under playground equipment. Acceptable loose-fill materials include shredded rubber, hardwood fiber mulch or chips, and fine sand. Surfacing should be maintained at a depth of 12 inches and should extend a minimum of 6 feet in all directions around stationary equipment. Depending on the height of the equipment, surfacing may need to extend farther than 6 feet. Rubber mats, synthetic turf and other artificial materials are also safe surfaces and require less maintenance. · Ensure that a comprehensive inspection of all playgrounds is conducted by qualified personnel. Abide by daily, monthly and annual playground maintenance schedules. Ensure that schools and childcare centers have age-appropriate, well-maintained playground equipment and that trained supervisors are present at all times when children are on the playground. Report any playground safety hazards to the organization responsible for the site (e.g., school, park authority, city council). · Always supervise children when using playground equipment. Maintain visual and auditory contact. Prevent unsafe behaviors like pushing, shoving, crowding and inappropriate use of equipment. Ensure that children use age-appropriate playground equipment. Maintain separate play areas for children under age 5. · Remove hood and neck drawstrings from all children's outerwear. Never allow children to wear helmets, necklaces, purses, scarves or clothing with drawstrings while on playgrounds.
Suggested Citation: National SAFE KIDS Campaign (NSKC). Playground Injury Fact Sheet. Washington (DC): NSKC, 2004. | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/9/2009 9:07:49 AM | I kind of avoided the topic, since I know nothing about it and I'm not inclined to bother researching it.
But.....seems to me that Bush's term was characterized by the Millenial Generation. This is a bigger baby boom than the post war baby boom. It would be pretty weird if the absolute numbers of childhood injuries didn't go up.
I had no compunctions about bringing that up when someone blamed "liberal" media for increased teen crime, so I'm kind of obligated to point it out here too. | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/9/2009 7:14:58 PM |
Typical of Munjoe and Earl to overlook the OBVIOUS truth of the matter. I'm not the one overlooking the more or less obvious, I know what the deal is. The rules of the game are what they are, it's not my fault that those on the right lack the awareness to understand.
All of this coming from Bush's following the chanting of the priests of money and religion as he sought his one thousand days in Sodom.
Each one an act of the unspeakable from this scavenger of human sorrow.
For the Republican Bush admin and its supporters, clearly evil has no boundaries. | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/10/2009 10:33:02 AM |
Typical of Munjoe and Earl to overlook the OBVIOUS truth of the matter.
Go back to msg 58 Munjoe..refute that will ya? Put your typical lib spin on it...see if it works for ya... | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 8/10/2009 11:20:07 AM |
Go back to msg 58 Munjoe..refute that will ya? Refute what? You've said nothing that needs to be refuted.
What was your point because I don't see one there. You posted an article that says playground injuries and deaths have risen, doubled even. How does that have anything positive to say about the Bush admin's structures of death?
Are you referring to this?
I remember as a kid in the 60's and 70's that the swings were made from steel and had chain ropes holding a wooden seat. No point that needs refuting there, that changed years before the Bush admin had ever had designs on their regulatory orgy of destruction.
What would your point be there?
Or was it this?
Lack of parental supervision in the public playgrounds and teacher supervision at the schools. The very article you posted states that supervision was a consideration in a minority of cases.
Would that even be that much of an issue if not for this place of many deaths brought about by that lord of all fevers and plagues that was the Republican Bush admin?
Put your typical lib spin on it... Would that be "liberal" enough?
see if it works for ya... It is so far... much better than even I originally thought it would. | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 10/21/2009 6:07:26 PM |
This thread is funny and worthy of resureccion
I'm sure you meant 'resurrection', , and I agree with you. I am particularly fond of this bit:
...hyperpole...
I have a friend from Poland, and he's somewhat hyper, however, I'm not sure he'd be pleased with being called a 'hyperpole'. | |
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| Did their evil know no bounds? Posted: 10/21/2009 6:45:24 PM | To anyone confused and bent out of shape about this it is something called Satire. It takes a certain amount of intellect to grasp. I am glad it is making a come back I was so sick of Situation comedy. It makes for dumb audiences looking for someone to get hit in the balls, or fart on a date.
Oh speaking of satire...
Ever check out the republicans for rape site? Maybe I should make a new thread.. hehe | |
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