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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/9/2009 8:56:13 PM | | I think women have been more focused on careers these days, than home economics, but last time I looked you didn't have to cook a ham sandwich, lol and just for the record, most of us can put together our own furniture, so why we do that, go grill us some salmon. | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/9/2009 8:59:15 PM | Since I live alone, I just throw together stuff and cook something. But, if I cook for others, which I enjoy, then I like to follow a recipe.
Cooking is really fun and I like to use herbs and spices. | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/9/2009 9:04:34 PM |
but last time I looked you didn't have to cook a ham sandwich
Anyway you put that sandwich - IT AIN'T KOSHER..........
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/9/2009 9:06:45 PM |
just for the record, most of us can ...
Just who is keeping this record anyway? And where can one go to view the archives? Will there be dancing? I hope not. I couldn't dance to save my soul. Unless there's beer. And cold cuts. Gotta have cold cuts.
OT - I think they do, but they're not telling us. And ladies, here's a little secret the guy's are going to have my Moose Nughts for: Every town, village, city has a secret place known only to us guys where we go and change the oil in our cars all the time. And we don't tell you. | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/9/2009 9:12:21 PM | ^^^^^^^ I can't dance worth beans either, but I don't worry about what others think, I just get out there and move.
Nice name by the way, gave me a chuckle!!! | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/9/2009 9:27:07 PM |
Nice name by the way, gave me a chuckle!!!
I see on your profile you are divorced, therefore I can safely assume you are broke. My God! I feel like I'm talking to myself!
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/9/2009 9:47:11 PM | Me too. I'm a dirt digger. *grins* My mum always said: ".50 cent plant - $5 hole". She had a slightly less than two acre vegetable garden. I wasn't remotely interested in gardening back then, but as handy slave labour, I was pressed into service and learned to love the process. Oh my the wonders of the garden.
Asparagus in the spring. I hardly ever buy it from the store anymore as it just doesn't compare. Corn in late summer. (especially peaches and cream) Peas that never make it to the table as they are gobbled in the garden. New potatoes - yes, just like an easter egg hunt! (I cheated and started with a pitchfork - or does everyone do that?)
Good Lord! 2 acres? That's some serious production. She must have been a seller. I have 6 acres of property, but my vegetable and herb garden is about postage-stamp size in relation to the breath of my grounds, and I still consider it BIG. I'd probably pitchfork the taters out too, but I use the french-intensive raised bed style, which, though it's more work on the front end, weeding my beds is as easy as pulling a straw out of a milkshake, and they drain so nicely by their porous nature, which can be an advantage living in this wet climate that I do. I think I can thrust and wiggle my arm about elbow deep into any of them.
And your momma was right. Don't chintz on dirt. I put a lot of carbon-based organic material into the beds in the fall, and more nitro-based organic material in the early spring. My method. Works. That's all that matters to me.
I can't believe I haven't grown asparagus. One of the royal lines of the veggie kingdom. But I do grow artichokes, brussel sprouts, some other more off-center things. You've got to stop somewhere. I've also got strawberries, blueberries, raspberries to tend to, before I even get into all the other maintenance my little paradise requires.
Anyway, nice to chat about one of my little passions wich-ya. | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/10/2009 7:23:47 AM |
I can't dance worth beans either, but I don't worry about what others think
I can dance. I specialize in doing The White Man Shuffle and The Dance of Victory.
I also know how to do a Waltz. | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/10/2009 7:29:44 AM | | you must not have put a lot of thought into this tooic at all. Notice how all the world's most famous and celeb chefs are men!!! The tables are turning and fast!! | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/10/2009 7:34:58 AM |
Me too. I'm a dirt digger. *grins* My mum always said: ".50 cent plant - $5 hole". She had a slightly less than two acre vegetable garden. I wasn't remotely interested in gardening back then, but as handy slave labour, I was pressed into service and learned to love the process. Oh my the wonders of the garden.
Asparagus in the spring. I hardly ever buy it from the store anymore as it just doesn't compare. Corn in late summer. (especially peaches and cream) Peas that never make it to the table as they are gobbled in the garden. New potatoes - yes, just like an easter egg hunt! (I cheated and started with a pitchfork - or does everyone do that?) Good Lord! 2 acres? That's some serious production. She must have been a seller. I have 6 acres of property, but my vegetable and herb garden is about postage-stamp size in relation to the breath of my grounds, and I still consider it BIG. I'd probably pitchfork the taters out too, but I use the french-intensive raised bed style, which, though it's more work on the front end, weeding my beds is as easy as pulling a straw out of a milkshake, and they drain so nicely by their porous nature, which can be an advantage living in this wet climate that I do. I think I can thrust and wiggle my arm about elbow deep into any of them. And your momma was right. Don't chintz on dirt. I put a lot of carbon-based organic material into the beds in the fall, and more nitro-based organic material in the early spring. My method. Works. That's all that matters to me. I can't believe I haven't grown asparagus. One of the royal lines of the veggie kingdom. But I do grow artichokes, brussel sprouts, some other more off-center things. You've got to stop somewhere. I've also got strawberries, blueberries, raspberries to tend to, before I even get into all the other maintenance my little paradise requires. Anyway, nice to chat about one of my little passions wich-ya.
All right, two more gardeners!
Out here on the left slope the early tater plants are starting to brown and I have been digging them up. Everything from white (russets) to all blues (the best!). Six varieties this year. Been harvesting and canning beans and peas, so many we're giving them away. Start corn today. prefer the blanch and freeze method for corn - just seems better than regular canning. And the winter squash is coming on. Carrots and beets can stay in the ground for a bit longer, short of a hard freeze, giving me time to work on other stuff.
Raspberries have been purreed and froze, and now the plums are a week away from being turned into succulent jams. The "fruit" of a long summer of work.
NOthing quite as good as taking something straight from the garden and 30 minutes later sitting down to eat it following a prayer of thanksgiving.
TK {When I'm done working the soil, don't embalm me, jut fill me with dirt} | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/10/2009 7:49:30 AM | varinia wrote:
Just ordered Julia Child's Mastering the art of French cooking, vol I + II. So, there'll be some cooking in the house next week ;-)
Did you get the boxed set? I bought mine from Costco this spring. They also had the two book edition of Bon Appetite. When I get my kitchen redone this fall I'm gonna have some fun.
Replacing a 4 burner electric spiral cook top with a stand alone 36" 6-burner gas range. a 36" oven! I've been wanting a gas stove for ages, electric sucks. NO control.
TK {I practically feel as i've been flambeed} | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/10/2009 8:07:07 AM | Excuse me?? I do know that there is a whole lot of women that knows how to cook! but also its nice to see the man cater to us in the kitchen once in a while...try it you might enjoy catering to your woman for a change.  | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/11/2009 2:44:39 AM | | I think a lot more women would like to cook, but simply don't have the time. | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/11/2009 2:50:46 AM |
You took a light-hearted joke about men who can't cook, always Eating Out... where Verity was speaking metaphorically... and you used that as an excuse to casually put down men in general who don't have that skill.
First of all, zekestone, while I can't be sure, I'm reasonably certain she missed the innuendo totally..she read it literally..so, it would be unfair to say that she took a light lighted joke and responded...
Secondly, I think hate against anyone, but, certainly as a group, is wrong for any gender...hate is strong word..I don't hate anyone, and I can actually like people who have different opinions than I..and even those who annoy me..I never hate..and no hate against any group, whether I personally approve of them or their opinions or not..to me, the definition of democracy and free speech is the right to believe whatever you want ( as long as it isn't illegal), and they don't need my approval.
I have several observations of the dynamic of the forums in particular ( all my opinion, and not directed at a group as a whole, or including everyone in a group): many people aren't reacting with hatred..more like hurt or anger..either because they feel personally attacked or threatened..or because they have some unresolved issues from past relationships..and we all have personal experiences that color our reaction, responses..human nature..good or bad experiences.
Many of the most popular topics on the relationship forums are almost always Op's written by men that are very misogynistic, condescending , pretty hatefully worded, and certainly a pre-liberation point of view-whether by design to stir up the pot, or because they are actually hateful..this thread's OP being one of them..
I have noticed that few men question those OP's, particularly the more opinionated, outspoken ones, basically saying it is ok to bash women, just not men? That would be a double standard to me? Most women are replying in defense..so, I'm guessing it is also not ok to defend oneself, or a whole gender you are part of, unless you are a guy?
I have also run into quite a few men, who can not tolerate being disagreed with, especially by a woman, and not only have no respect for their opinion, but, will actually just stop talking to, or posting to you, or email you nasty comments.. I find that disrespectful, and frustrating...I grew up in an atmosphere where an exchange of perspectives was seen a a good, learning experience...and one did not dislike someone who disagreed..just their point of view...
I do not hate men, never have, and to presume that because I may disagree with their outlook on some topic, this makes me a hater...no two of us have the exact same perspective on anything...being in agreement to date is one thing...but, as part of a forum atmosphere where an exchange of ideas is the point..just baffles me, really..because I listen, try very hard not to seem personal or hateful, and yet, I often get ridiculed or condescended to..always with the undertone of women who think differently, or, perhaps women at all, do not deserve respect or common courtesy..and the implied meaning being, we can't possibly be right..because we are women, and on the forums, we seem to be the embodiment of inferior, and so wrong..
It is true that cooking talent is not gender related...but, the OP himself, posited that women who don't are stupid and dumb, and rebellious, and not fulfilling their proper "role"..I find that no more respectable than women who bash men for any number of reasons...and I would defend that..
There isn't, in my mind, at least on the forums, very many men at all who actually like women, and think we have caused everything that is wrong, and apparently want to punish us for some other women they have known, or for the changes in general..there are still a lot of men, offline too, who would prefer us to go back to the "old" ways..I don't see that as progress or acceptance...when you read enough of that stuff, it is hard not to be defensive, though I honestly try to approach it in a civilized way, not lashing out..and from an intellectual side...
I actually like most men, even the ones that apparently don't like me..and I would prefer to gain some understanding between the genders, than bashing each other over the disconnects..I see this constant turmoil as more destructive..and not beneficial to either gender...
I can only hope someday we actually accomplish this...because, I am truly trying to understand the "other" side, and what their dissatisfaction is, and why, but, often get sidetracked having to explain myself better, or defending unfair accusations, but, I don' t see the opposite much at all..just a general, do it my way, or you are wrong...
How superior or misogynistic is that?
And how counter productive to real understanding and some kind of practicable compromise that works for most...
More OT: I have some traditionally female skills, and some traditionally male ones..it has nothing to do with my gender or, women's lib..just who I am..and cooking is one of my rare domestic talents, and that also has nothing to do with liberation...just a skill I always had..along with the ones I never did...
As always, just my perspective...
And my natural inclination to resolve conflict..and promote more peace and understanding... | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/11/2009 7:07:49 AM | So I guess everybody's come to an agreement then?
Yes it's agreed that I DO, in fact, make the bestest everest lasagna (lasagne).
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/11/2009 7:16:00 AM | Zangie,
There isn't, in my mind, at least on the forums, very many men at all who actually like women, and think we have caused everything that is wrong, and apparently want to punish us for some other women they have known, or for the changes in general..there are still a lot of men, offline too, who would prefer us to go back to the "old" ways..I don't see that as progress or acceptance...when you read enough of that stuff, it is hard not to be defensive, though I honestly try to approach it in a civilized way, not lashing out..and from an intellectual side... Forum life and real life are two different entities. ( I think I said that somewhere else. ) Some of these people, who act and say what they do on here, are not even close to what they are like in real life. Sometimes letter-writing gives them courage and they unload all of their anger and frustrations in witty posts and sharp thinly veiled nasties against women. In some of them you can see blatant control issues. Their desire to be finally the one in charge. You can get confused with the blathering going on back and forth. Just settle back and be you and what your inner guide tells you what is right for YOU.
Now back to cooking. A very sweet man in my office gave me a bunch of garden grown tomatoes - about 30 lbs.! Still making stewed tomatoes in various ethnic spices. My agreement is to give him some back. See, he provides and I cook! | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/11/2009 7:50:43 AM | Not trying to side with the OP, but if us men look at a lot of women's profile and read some of the things that are written then his question does have some validation as a question.
Now you ladies can lower your hackles as there are just as many if not more of you who have quite clearly stated that you enjoy cooking on your profiles.
Maybe the OP just hasn't looked at the profiles that have enjoy cooking on them or he is looking at the women who don't want to cook, who knows but if he is looking for an obedient woman then I think he is looking on the wrong date site.
When my wife was alive I made the comment that her cooking wasn't like my mother's cooking and one day my wife yelled at me that what was the difference between her cooking and my mother's. So I told her, for one thing my mother burnt the food and tasted of charcoal, where as my wife's cooking was the complete opposite.
By the way I can also cook because if I couldn't then I would be out of a job, I am a chef | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/11/2009 8:09:15 AM | Zangie,
First of all, zekestone, while I can't be sure, I'm reasonably certain she missed the innuendo totally..she read it literally.
I believe that it is unlikely that she is that daft. But I could be wrong...
Secondly, I think hate against anyone, but, certainly as a group, is wrong for any gender...hate is strong word..I don't hate anyone,
I don't know where you are getting hate out of that post... but I never said I hated anyone or group. Nor did I say Savona was a hater.
But I DID say she was casually putting down men in a way that perpetuates a common double-standard today.
My attitude is "what's good for the goose, is good for the gander... and vice versa".
So I ask... would anyone dare say that any WOMAN who can't cook is needy or stupid? Would it be acceptable to say that? What's that I hear? Do I hear a "No"?
Well then if that put-down is unacceptable for Women, why should it be acceptable for men?
That was my point.
As for the rest of your post... hey... both sides see the other as the problem. That's nothing new.
And honestly, I've seen more male-bashing... even by men... than female-bashing.
Hell, I've even come across some posters (mostly female, but some male too) who have the attitude that it was Abnormal for a Man to be in great distress over not being able to see his son... as if Fathers don't love their kids, don't care about seeing their kids or are incapable of loving them. THAT particular thread (which got deleted in the end) turned into an all-out war...
And yeah... some people are speaking from past hurt. But just because they're speaking/acting on past hurt doesn't make it Right.
After all... would it make it "right" for a guy to be abusive to a girl just because he himself got beat up at an earlier time? Would that be a good "reason"?
No way!
Acting out is NOT okay and isn't the answer.
You see... I'm opposed to Bigotry in general... and that includes Misandry AND Misogyny among other things. And to me, the *cause* of someone's Bigotry is irrelevant in the greater scheme of things from the perspective of the need to oppose it. | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/11/2009 8:21:42 AM |
Yes it's agreed that I DO, in fact, make the bestest everest lasagna (lasagne). Im getting hungry for some lasagna. Why dont you drop by and feed me? | |
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| Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 9/11/2009 12:19:07 PM | Yes they do. I think as time has pasted and both partners work it becomes more difficult for the women to cook everynight. I guess it depends on the expectations of the relationship. However I can't put that table together so I'd be glad to make that sandwitch or roll that meatball!  | |
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