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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/13/2009 2:22:01 AM | well thanks for that beez..finally a mature, responsible nondoucheable answer...
Do you have any idea how incredible stupid, unreasonable, illogical, and just... re-re you sound when you call everyone who disagrees with you a douche?
So far nobody's called you names... but I'm not very nice.
I just did.
You've YET to logically rebut anything anyone's said that you don't like. You come across as one of those girls whose brains fell out of their hooha at birth.
Whenever someone says something that you don't like (regardless of how true it is, or how based on personal experiences it is) you just call them names, and totally dismiss what they said.
Perhaps that's why birth control was too complicated for you?
Wow. What a great catch you are.
SIGN ME UP!
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/13/2009 5:10:34 AM | | Hi Jenny, the way I see it there's nothing wrong with single mums. I would rather get with a woman with kids than a woman without as I can't have anymore kids myself. You'll find someone out there because your gorgeous and if I was in the US I would be intrested but unfortunately i'm in the UK lol. I hope you find mr right soon x | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/13/2009 3:57:56 PM | so ninjaqueen,
exactly how am I stupid, unreasonable and illogical?? please enlighten me with your wisdom...
Mchurch and jacob were the only ones i called douchebags...granted, i used that term a few posts back..but wasnt meant for everyone..i have yet to debate many up here because i DO in fact value their opinion that is why i did start this thread, but those 2 douchebags deserved that term and the logical, reasonable and intelligent people up here know exactly what im talking about...
I have no time nor want to debate with people up here...just because im the one who started this doesnt mean i have to debate every single person.. so quit trying to make trouble and offend me. BECAUSE its a waste of time.. | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/13/2009 6:40:11 PM |
Mchurch and jacob were the only ones i called douchebags...granted, i used that term a few posts back..but wasnt meant for everyone..i have yet to debate many up here because i DO in fact value their opinion that is why i did start this thread, but those 2 douchebags deserved that term and the logical, reasonable and intelligent people up here know exactly what im talking about...
Actually, No... the logical people KNOW that insulting people is not a logical response... it's an emotion based response. No one deserves to be insulted... Notice how I haven't even insulted you... That's because despite what you say, I don't feel you deserve to be insulted either...
Insults are the refuge of those with a weak argument....
My arguments are not weak, you may not like them, but they are still valid...
That aside...
In the future, you might want to consider that throwing out insults actually makes YOU look bad, not me.... | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/13/2009 7:30:19 PM |
so maybe i understand more than i think when it comes to single parents myself....but the guys who are downright rude in this thread can honestly get your balls off w/some other thread...thanks again Beez.
YAY for the grrrrrls! You guys ROCK! YAY for the Harpies.
Boy, you broads sure showed some balls. I'm impressed, as I always am, at the Mutual Admiration Society's ability to get a person eliminated from the fora for disagreeing.
But, I'm fresh back from Banned Camp myself, so I'd best be careful about what I say to all of you marvelous, loving and lovely chicks... erm... women folk...or you might go whining to the Mod Gods again....
OP: If you don't want to accept or even consider what the men are going to respond, don't ask the question.
But tell me what else there is..i mean is that it really??
MANY of us have experiences similar to church's. NO, not EVERY women exhibits EVERY one of the things he mentioned, but I suggest YOU and every OTHER woman who thinks these things are unique to a very small cross-section of men who date single mothers should really take some time to DATE single mothers.
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/13/2009 7:52:41 PM | hi jenny !
thats my opinion on single parents: iam a freshly awarded single mum ! dad left while i was pregnant , so i had time and time to think about the whole issue and not bothering the coward...(families are diamonds... )
i think some men use childrens as excuse for a very simple reason : they try hard to hide their weaknesses, dishonesty (or perverted minds if you prefer), they do not want us to see that they are not able to....
we single mums are working harder (job, house, bills, social life, most but not least raising little ones, caring for them and not allowed to forget things or it will come pricey! )
how many men can ? without running outta breath ?? hell yeah not so many...
they have no clue on how we can survive such a lifestyle !!
(men.. just by being cheated on and their life has been destroy !!)
do not worry too much ...just be happy that your are not wasting anymore time with those a** . use this time to educate your little one(s) so they don`t become weak persons..
your match will come along when least expected...
for those who "think"... well you should kiss womans feet !! instead jerking around !
was your mum single and your gutted she didn`t care much for you ??
were you lucky enough to have your dad around ?? and don`t understand single parenthood ?
things doesn`t always happen to others...
AND YOU CAME OUT OF A WOMAN`S WOMB, DON`T YOU FORGET THAT
being unfair with one woman is having prejudice with womankind included your own mother !!
mind you iam not bitter i love Men with big M, but not letting anyone walk on my feet !
i know what i want out of life (that immature men freak about that !) poor dear
its hard because we ae human !!
us single parents, patience is our seond name USE IT !!
keep up the good work...xxxxxxxxx | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/13/2009 8:06:08 PM |
how many men can ? without running outta breath ?? hell yeah not so many...
they have no clue on how we can survive such a lifestyle !!
I've done it. I do it half of the time now...
... and it's no where NEAR as difficult as women say it is.
I'd MUCH rather have the option to work part-time, collect CS and other benefits that so many women have no qualms about collecting.
Raising kids is time consuming, but hardly the onerous task that women like you make it out to be.
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/13/2009 9:19:52 PM | I read some of the posts on here, before the flame wars started and everyone started getting way too defensive.
I only have a few comments to sum up what I have read.
1. geesh its not that hard being a single parent. Not nearly as hard as you single women make it out to be... well, I am a single father. and to all of you who said, or agreed with the previous statement - try it. and I don't mean a crap-tastic part-time parent, who never really doesanything with the kidswhen he is around them - I mean a REAL parent.
2. men are crap, only want sex, blah blah blah.
Not all men are like this. I am not like that. Perhaps it is where you are meeting these guys, perhaps you have simply gotten unlucky thus far in your fishing.
3. what's wrong with a single parent women? (the question you actually posed)
Nothing, in and of itself. It is not whether or not the women is a single parent that attracts, or detracts me to them. It is the women herself. her attitude, personality, confidence (without being egotystical), etc.
You will find a real - proper- decent man one day, you don't need to SETTLE for anything less than that.
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/13/2009 11:21:59 PM | Ok...i know i know..men are frightened by chicks w/kiddos because of the obvious "im not ready to be a dad factor"..
But tell me what else there is..i mean is that it really?? And are most men really thinking they cant date a girl because they dont want to get close to the kid or whatever in the hell it is.
I dont know..after a 3rd guy im actually interested in up here plainly stating..ehrr i dont date chicks w/kids...im starting to get down...Its either they want to bang me or run from me and im getting down...ive tried single parents online and well nada yet..but i guess im just trying to get into a male's point of view on this..even tho i guess i fear im answering my question anyway.
Unfortunately, one of the consequences of being an unwed teen mother is the possibility of having a smaller dating pool than a woman who does not have children. This means you may need to have more patience than a childless woman your age.
Most young men in your age range do not have children, and are many are not ready to settle down, especially when it means having to raise another man's children. Many men this age would prefer to marry a woman with no children, so that the man and woman can have their children together.
You might find some men who are a little bit older may be more open to the idea of being with a woman who already has a child. | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 2:05:21 AM | You know what m_church...you might want to review your comments and opinions "of the day" before you make comments on the same thread that are spaced further apart than 1 week!....for e.g.
And we're supposed to be nice and politically correct to this "guy" who did everything with you except raise the results of all that sperm he left in you.... He got you when you were young, and smooth skinned and innocent, and left you when you were older, jaded, with stretch marks and all the other little after effects of giving birth....
No wonder I saw a smirk on his face as he left.....
Thanks....~m_church~<<<<posted on pg 2 of this thread
^^^^I do find it humurous to watch the opinions of people drastically change into something that is more "politically correct" when they post less arrogant views the second time they respond in a thread...They only do so to defend their character or to attempt to project integrity they lost.. only because of the unfavourable replies they got from their first post from other people..(btw....this is called backpeddaling)...see the e.g below folks!
No one deserves to be insulted... Notice how I haven't even insulted you... That's because despite what you say, I don't feel you deserve to be insulted either...
Insults are the refuge of those with a weak argument....
My arguments are not weak, you may not like them, but they are still valid...
That aside...
In the future, you might want to consider that throwing out insults actually makes YOU look bad, not me....
m_church on 8/13/2009 9 11 PM
^^^m_church....I think most single Mom's who are frequenting these boards get it....you don't prefer to date a single Mom...that is your preference and one I am sure comes from your experiences. As for the insults.....YOU are the guilty party here....or would you like me to make a long numbered list of "why" women won't date ignorant men?.....Use some other group that has the "social stigma" attached to them other than single Mom's to boost your ego...The OP asked for valid reasons and only got responses from people who have personal predjiduces for the most part...
Perhaps you could focus on making numbered lists for the drug lords that rule your community in malvern, and make some arguements for why they should be kicked out of the country? Or of it is an easier target your seeking....there are plenty of parents with children disabled by autisim?..just a few suggestions.
BTW....your list..from page 2....is really a little twisted........and it really says something about YOU as a person.. | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 5:29:32 AM | Actually liz the fact that you couldn't see the truth or the humour of that list says a great deal about you.
Like many have said here it isn't so much the single parent thing that bothers men the most. It is when they when they somehow lost site of why you should even have kids in the first place, love of a partner.
Many here spew out such venom about your ex'es or men in general it is suprising you could put on a nice personna long enough to get someone to be with you before you couldn't hold it anymore.
These ex'es aren't really to blame for your misery and many cannot get past that just because you experienced the miracle of conception didn'y change into that dream dad you thought they would be. Not their fault really you knew what they were like when you fell for them and to expecting a leopard to change it's spots has dire consequences, mostly for the kids who will pick up the vibe on how you choose to see the world after that.
Maybe that is why some here like myself have no problem trying to to show you a side of truth that many don't want to look at anymore and play the victim card or hide behind this wall of my kids are my life thing.
Trouble with that is if you do not find a new partner you will be so afraid of losing the love of your children the objectivity needed to really prepare them will be out of focus neaning they will always be the angels you think they even if they aren't.
If that isn't a turn off to a new mate, I don't know what is.
So liz why don't you give your copy,cut and paste skills a rest any dolt can do that and come up with something a little less cryptic and uncute. Maybe shoot for original thoughts.
Print this one out and tape it to the wall of your kids room. | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 5:36:44 AM |
So liz why don't you give your copy,cut and paste skills a rest any dolt can do that and come up with something a little less cryptic and uncute. Maybe shoot for original thoughts.
Print this one out and tape it to the wall of your kids room.
This made me giggle.
And I think Forum Ninja did a backflip somewhere.
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 6:36:21 AM |
As for the insults.....YOU are the guilty party here....or would you like me to make a long numbered list of "why" women won't date ignorant men?
Go ahead... It might be enlightening....
Maybe it could go along the lines of....
Why WOMEN won't date IGNORANT men:
1... Because women hate to lose every argument...
2...Because they confuse the word "logical" with "ignorant". This apparent confusion stems from asking their Mom what "logical" means. Women who ask their Dad what "logical" means are happily married.
3... Instead of being out dating, they're making lists of why women won't date logical(oops ignorant) men...
4... Ignorant men want their own children. This is apparently what makes them "ignorant" and therefore kid hating. Which is one of the 'other' definitions of "Ignorant" (See #2 above)
5... Ignorant men don't want another man's children. (See #4 Above)
5...Ignorant men are selfish. (See #5 Above)
6...Ignorant men are immature(See #5 Above - again...)
7... Ignorant men are usually correct. (See #1 Above) This poses a bit of a connundrum for women who are used to always being correct even if they are wrong. (See #1 again... It still hasn't changed... inspite of women insisting it should)
7... Ignorant men are men who refuse to tell a woman she is right when she is wrong.
8... Ignorant men are men who refuse to tell a woman she is right when she screams she is right, cuts off sex, and goes on a pout, but is still wrong.
9...Ignorant men have a lousy sense of humour at least to women.
10. Ignorant men are not politically correct. In every other way they can be correct but if such correctness is deemed in violation of #1 above it shall be deemed by women to be either incorrect, politically incorrect, insulting, pathetic or nasty.
11. Women make jokes about ignorant men for the same reason they make jokes about blondes.... to give them something to do on a Saturday night when everyone else has a date....
12. And finally, the #1 reason (yes, I know that logically it would be the first one but I'm being ignorant so I get to throw logic away - read carefully and you'll get the joke in that). It's because ignorant men won't tell a woman that everything she did wrong with her life was not a problem and hold her hand and tell her it will be ok so that she doesn't have to face the fact that she might have fcuked it up. | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 7:24:02 AM |
2...Because they confuse the word "logical" with "ignorant". This apparent confusion stems from asking their Mom what "logical" means. Women who ask their Dad what "logical" means are happily married.
8... Ignorant men are men who refuse to tell a woman she is right when she screams she is right, cuts off sex, and goes on a pout, but is still wrong.
10. Ignorant men are not politically correct. In every other way they can be correct but if such correctness is deemed in violation of #1 above it shall be deemed by women to be either incorrect, politically incorrect, insulting, pathetic or nasty.
11. Women make jokes about ignorant men for the same reason they make jokes about blondes.... to give them something to do on a Saturday night when everyone else has a date....
12. And finally, the #1 reason (yes, I know that logically it would be the first one but I'm being ignorant so I get to throw logic away - read carefully and you'll get the joke in that). It's because ignorant men won't tell a woman that everything she did wrong with her life was not a problem and hold her hand and tell her it will be ok so that she doesn't have to face the fact that she might have fcuked it up.
Forum ninja just did another backflip... and a Ki! | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 7:24:32 AM | | There is no point in getting all overworked with other member's posts, if you ask a question like this, you are going to get all different types of perspectives and views, why don't you focus on the positive posters, just a thought. It can get pretty lonely at a pity party, when nobody shows up. Quit whining and complaining about being a single Mom that cannot find somebody and just enjoy being a Mom. When the time is right for you and them, someone will come along that will sweep you off your feet. Good Luck! | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 2:21:06 PM | | Yes, certain women are closed minded..but then so are certain men. We as humans have a certain "box" that we have all the things we want in a spouse. And if they dont fit into the box its up to us as individuals to either expand and look on the positive side of what may happen or keep our box close and judge others....I myself am quite picky with finding that special someone, however I dont judge anyone who doesnt want to date me because of my children. Children are quite daunting, as Church stated there are a ton of cons...However he forgot to add that there are alot of pros in dating a single mom. Like the fact that if you want a family in the future, you get a sneek peek if this women will be a good mom, you get to see how hard she works for her family, you get to see how hard she works to keep herself healthy, as well...She may have a loving caring heart...No there isnt a lot of private time, things are more expensive, more arguments..... however, think of all those times you do get time to yourself...You cherish them all the more...Children are not a hinderence they are an addition. I applaud all the single moms who work hard to keep their special family going, and All the men who have given a single mom a chance...Thanks. | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 2:49:50 PM |
Like the fact that if you want a family in the future, you get a sneek peek if this women will be a good mom, you get to see how hard she works for her family, you get to see how hard she works to keep herself healthy, as well...She may have a loving caring heart...
Well, that's all well and good, but it DOESN'T show what kind of a partner she's going to make.
My ex is a great mom, friend (I'm sure), great daughter, sister etc, but she tends to treat men like shit and I've met several of her other exes, so it wasn't just me.
Even her family and friends shake their heads when the topic of how she treats her men comes up.....
.... and yeah, she was a single mom when I was stupid enough to invite her to move in with me.
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 4:25:12 PM |
Like the fact that if you want a family in the future, you get a sneek peek if this women will be a good mom, you get to see how hard she works for her family, you get to see how hard she works to keep herself healthy, as well...She may have a loving caring heart...
I bet single moms relay on this rubbish as a tried and true fact. Who would be stupid enough to believe that the best way you can determine that a woman is going to be a great mom to your child is if she already has a child by another guy! The beauty of finding the woman you want to have a child by is in the stars, and a strong intelligent man knows who she is. He certainly does not have to rely on her having a kid already to make sure. Besides the children would be only half related not fully related and I have seen women treat their kids differently who have different fathers. And because she is working so hard for her family, working so hard to be a mom, that does not mean that her situation is attractive to men. Maybe a childless woman working hard on her life is what's deemed as attractive. Okay she has a loving caring heart, now what? | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 6:44:53 PM | I have one thing to say to you my dear "church"
>>>>>>>>>>>BURP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
THE NINJA MADE ME DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BAD ninja, bad, bad ninja. | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 6:45:12 PM |
I bet single moms relay on this rubbish as a tried and true fact. Who would be stupid enough to believe that the best way you can determine that a woman is going to be a great mom to your child is if she already has a child by another guy! The beauty of finding the woman you want to have a child by is in the stars, and a strong intelligent man knows who she is. He certainly does not have to rely on her having a kid already to make sure. Besides the children would be only half related not fully related and I have seen women treat their kids differently who have different fathers. And because she is working so hard for her family, working so hard to be a mom, that does not mean that her situation is attractive to men. Maybe a childless woman working hard on her life is what's deemed as attractive. Okay she has a loving caring heart, now what?
I would say that a woman who puts off having children until she is educated, has a decent career, and is married to a good man who is good father material is a probably going to be a good mother. | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 6:50:51 PM | Sorry to go off topic he, he, he. Hey Capitano; you can get people banned on here???
Wow, I'd better start crossing my t's and dotting my eyes, or...hmmmm......church, church, church-lol. | |
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| Whats wrong with a single parent woman?
Posted: 8/14/2009 7:02:40 PM |
I think most single Mom's who are frequenting these boards get it....you don't prefer to date a single Mom...that is your preference and one I am sure comes from your experiences. As for the insults.....YOU are the guilty party here....or would you like me to make a long numbered list of "why" women won't date ignorant men?.....Use some other group that has the "social stigma" attached to them other than single Mom's to boost your ego...The OP asked for valid reasons and only got responses from people who have personal predjiduces for the most part...
Prejudiced? Most of the reasons are incredibly valid.
It is interesting, though, that you compare making a list of cons to dating a single mother to a list of reasons not to date "ignorant" men, using ignorant as a negative description of m_church (and I'm assuming other men who choose not to date a woman who has children by other man/men.) Seems the one insulting others is you, and in turn you are also insulting your own single mother status.
Also, referring to m_church as ignorant, is well, ignorant. He understands, is educated and has plenty of knowledge about dating single mothers. You fail to comprehend that his reasons are quite valid and feel insulted because of how you feel about yourself. It's not his fault you're in the situation you're in, and it isn't anyone's responsibility to accept that you have a child with another man. Not everyone wants a ready-made family, not every man wants to be a father to children that aren't his. There are many reasons why, and most of them are true for every single mother, divorced or not. Deal with it or ignore him. You aren't going to change his mind with your blather. | |
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