| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 9:43:54 AM | | I have heard the same thing a LOT from my female friends. As a woman who has always been on the pill and practiced safe sex, I really have NO SYMPATHY for single mothers who were shocked to find out they were pregnant, and then had the man bugger off. Seriously, it's their own fault... why do these women want everyone else to feel sorry for them? | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 9:48:28 AM |
In typical use, when used consistently and correctly, coitus interruptus and condoms have an 18 and 17 percent failure rate, respectively.
The reporter is quoting a common statistic, but misleading the reader.
The statistic usually states that for typical condom use, ~15% of couples will acheive pregnancy within a year of regular sex. This is not the same as 20% failure, and typical use is considered using them "most" of the time. Guess when people get pregnant?
When used every time, pregnancy rates are less than 2%.
Condoms work well, and it is obvious if they have failed. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 10:42:06 AM | She trapped this guy!
She obviously didn't do too good of a job 
Anyways, I don't know why other people say it but I know the last LTR I was in before now we "weren't trying too but weren't NOT trying to" I had been told during my first marriage and several tests that it would be nearly impossible to ever get pregnant. Granted, he did say "nearly" but after not conceiving for 2 years in that relationship and not conceiving for 3 years in the next relationship I grew a little lazy in the BC department.
I used condoms a but refused to use any hormonal BC because it made me feel like I was going crazy. I would say I probably had totally unprotected sex MAYBE 5 times. And some of those were with a man that had had a vasectomy. It only takes once though with the guy that hadn't had one! lol
And yes, I made sure to ask my doctor "WTF?!?!" | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 10:44:49 AM |
tallgreengrass: said I read something the other day that said the "pullout method" is only 4% less effective that use of a condom as far as contraception
Come on folks seriously does this make sense to you????
If you have unprotected sex whether it be 1 time or 30 you have just as much of a chance to get pregnant .
As far as the pull out method well if it weren't for this belief we would have a lot less pregnancies there can be preejaculatory sperm in seminole fluid knock knock.
One fertilizes the egg and they can swim faster than you can spit.
There is no naturally occurring sperm in pre-ejaculate. There can be leftover sperm that mixes in with it.
Read this story that tallgreengrass recommended:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Economy/Story?id=7688558&page=1 | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 10:46:18 AM | | Generations of people have relied on the rhythm method to avoid pregnancy, because let's face it, sex without a condom just feels better, for both parties. Then again, there are plenty of rhythm method adherents pushing baby strollers too! | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 11:17:39 AM |
He's had a vasectomy and isn't worried about her getting pregnant.
A acquaintance I have has a 3 year old little girl from a guy she cheated on her them husband with that had had a vasectomy. lol. Nothing is 100% that's for sure. Well besides abstinence of course. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 12:27:50 PM | I have read the article very interesting hmm but...... telling a young person this when they are not totally in control of their bodies might not be such a good idea if you know what I mean.
It has been proven that you can find a study to support just about any claim you want I am not saying this is false or true but I do think it is roulette .
I also believe strongly in bringing children into the world that will be loved and welcome, because it is their right.
I have read that on occasion sperm can last up to 7 days hmm
I also think that a women is not really going to be gong ho for this method as it is lacks timing. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 12:32:00 PM | Lol this is probably my most favorite thread ever...
The bottom line is these girls who say they "forgot" to take their pill or they only had sex without a condom once are most likely liars and there's no way to prove what they say is a lie so really, don't waste your time on talking to morons like that about it.
Don't beat a dead horse. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 12:37:05 PM |
I have read the article very interesting hmm but...... telling a young person this when they are not totally in control of their bodies might not be such a good idea if you know what I mean.
You are absolutely correct. Some men have more difficulty than others controlling their ejaculation. Some younger men may be less experienced than some older men, for example, in this regard.
HOWEVER, it sure is a LOT better than NOTHING.
It has been proven that you can find a study to support just about any claim you want I am not saying this is false or true but I do think it is roulette .
I cannot think of what anyone would have to gain by coming up with the findings of this particular report.
I also believe strongly in bringing children into the world that will be loved and welcome, because it is their right.
I agree 100%. They should be welcomed into this world by BOTH parents.
I have read that on occasion sperm can last up to 7 days hmm
I also think that a women is not really going to be gong ho for this method as it is lacks timing.
I'm not sure what the length of time sperm lives has to do with the withdrawal method, or the last part about lacking timing. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 12:40:49 PM |
Lol this is probably my most favorite thread ever...
The bottom line is these girls who say they "forgot" to take their pill or they only had sex without a condom once are most likely liars and there's no way to prove what they say is a lie so really, don't waste your time on talking to morons like that about it.
Don't beat a dead horse.
I agree that many (if not most) are lying. What I cannot fathom, for the life of me, is how a woman (or teen) can say, with a straight face and in all seriousness, that although they were having frequent unprotected sex (i.e. not using the rhythm method, not using withdrawal, no contraception whatsoever),
they not only were not trying to get pregnant, but that they were SHOCKED when they found out that they were pregnant. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 2:05:24 PM | Of course, I agree with futureshock and GoodWitchBeth and sexykg74 and the like.
But you're all missing the point. I'm not sure why, because you're all bright people.
It's not that people come to the conclusion that having unprotected sex isn't trying to get pregnant. It's that they don't come to a conclusion at all. That's because they don't think about it. That, in turn, is because there is a taboo on sex. The whole point of a taboo is to prevent thinking and talking.
Of course, some will say, "But our culture is saturated with sex!" It's saturated with idealistic, unrealistic, and adolescent views of sex. That is, views of sex which are not only inaccurate but which are designed to be inaccurate.
Look at how many women post questions, on a site whose purpose it is to facilitate sexual relationships, where they are just flabbergasted, in the age of AIDS when every flipping expert on the planet, correctly, tells people to have frank discussions about sex. OMG! OMG! He's a player! He's a **stard! He's a jerk! Evil, pure and simple, from Planet 10 by way of the eighth dimension!
Look at how many women post statements about having sex, and it was "unexpected," and now they are dealing with the unpleasant sequelae.
Hell, just look at the people on this thread who are posting points that are irrelevant, which usually involve "well, you know, those bad men..." They can't be that stupid if they can operate a computer. But blaming is just another way of avoiding thought.
Taboos, lots of them: The religious taboo: the idea that a personal deity will automatically jump right in and make a pregnancy or disease transfer happen or not, and whatever happens is God's Plan. The romantic taboo: follow your heart, or rather a part somewhat closer to the ground, but certainly not with your brain. The fear-mongering taboos, of which there are many. Contraception is a patriarchal plot to kill and maim women. Condoms break, so WHOOOO! Or it's complement, that condoms never break, leading to a talismanic view of them that negates the fact that they sometimes do, but there are things that you can do about it. (This talismanic idiocy is official CDC policy. I ran into it personally when I was trying to find condoms that wouldn't break. I found them, but no thanks to those pig-humping bureaucrats.) Anti-intellectual taboos: You overthink things. Just relax, and Be Yourself (TM), and it will happen when you least expect it. (Which, of course, it does, only sometimes without the smiley face.)
Plus, every single taboo-mongerer is praised as the epitome of morality. Except by me, but I am a mere immoral buffoon. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 5:10:09 PM | "For every woman having unprotected sex, there is a man doing it too."
I am in a long term relationship with you. I give you my trust. You promise to use the pill. Once day you make the choice to flush them down the toilet rather than swallow them. You fail to tell me.
I was having protected sex. You weren't. YOU are absolutely, entirely, and completely responsible for the consequences becaue you LIED!!! I choose to dump you. Take care of your OWN kids all by your lonesome. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 5:28:37 PM |
So how does having unprotected sex every time NOT equal trying to get pregnant?
Some women try to use the rhythm method and plan sex during the days they think they aren't ovulating. It's not a reliable method; but some women do use it to attempt to avoid pregnancy.
Some women just don't put two and two together when it comes to unprotected sex. They don't think that the occasional times they are having unprotected sex could lead to a pregnancy. Big-time denial of risk. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 7:12:11 PM |
Some women try to use the rhythm method and plan sex during the days they think they aren't ovulating. It's not a reliable method; but some women do use it to attempt to avoid pregnancy.
Some women just don't put two and two together when it comes to unprotected sex. They don't think that the occasional times they are having unprotected sex could lead to a pregnancy. Big-time denial of risk.
I think most of the women who do these things WANTED to get pregnant. The reason I think this is so, is because the alternative, that they are complete and utter morons, is unthinkable.
I also think that many women who get pregnant while claiming to have been on the pill, and keep the child, also got pregnant on purpose. If they didn't get pregnant on purpose, they would have had abortions or put their children up for adoption or they wouldn't have gotten pregnant at all.
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 8:19:55 PM |
I also think that many women who get pregnant while claiming to have been on the pill, and keep the child, also got pregnant on purpose. If they didn't get pregnant on purpose, they would have had abortions or put their children up for adoption or they wouldn't have gotten pregnant at all.
I have to disagree w/ this statement. The pill is by no means 100%. Add in the fact that MANY doctors who prescribe the pill do NOT advise their patients of the various ways the pill can be voided(like vitamins, supplements, presciption antibiotics, etc.). If a woman was taking the pill, following the directions and still got pregnant it is her choice to keep the kid or not. Abortion, adoption, and keeping the child are all an individual's choice. Not every woman is able to abort or give up a child-regardless if they intended to get pregnant.
The woman who has constant unprotected sex, with no care or worry of pregnancy until "oops" happens is a moron or deeply in denial. They may have been just been trying to get laid, but their lack of awareness of the consequences for their actions is no excuse for the results. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 8:30:07 PM |
I have to disagree w/ this statement. The pill is by no means 100%. Add in the fact that MANY doctors who prescribe the pill do NOT advise their patients of the various ways the pill can be voided(like vitamins, supplements, presciption antibiotics, etc.). If a woman was taking the pill, following the directions and still got pregnant it is her choice to keep the kid or not. Abortion, adoption, and keeping the child are all an individual's choice. Not every woman is able to abort or give up a child-regardless if they intended to get pregnant.
I agree with you that birth control is not 100% effective, etc., etc.. That is why I said "many" and not "all". | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/11/2009 10:42:37 PM |
I think most of the women who do these things WANTED to get pregnant. The reason I think this is so, is because the alternative, that they are complete and utter morons, is unthinkable.
I take back my agreement then. You are proudly oblivious to reality. Have a nice day. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/12/2009 10:57:26 AM | Potentially not what you meant...
I went off chemical birthcontrol before getting married... for several reasons. Mostly because he wasn't around and we were not having sex regularly at that point. When we did have sex, we used condoms. When we got married... I don't remember at what point we stopped using the condoms, started using NFP or counting the days. Because my cycle was very regular it was a good method for us... but again, we were married and decided that if we should happen to get pregnant, it wouldn't be a horrible thing... we just weren't actively trying to get pregnant.
Both my pregnancies were planned... well in advance, discussed, charted, thought out and actively pursued. And yet both were a big surprise when they happened.
With my current relationship, we again stopped using condoms at some point last year... and again relied on NFP. This time, however, not as reliable because my cycle has changed... and eventually we decided that something needed to change. It has... and now we don't worry about pregnancy anymore. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/14/2009 6:44:18 PM | | Easy if u dont want to get pregnant where a condom or use birth control. A women can help with birth control. Everyone does it once in a while with out the condom. If u get pregnant dont cry u asked for it . And no its doesnt mean u want a baby,sex just feels better without it. u both know what can happen so dont say she is just trying to keep u .I hate it when guys say that about women . Its not always true. | |
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| How is Having Unprotected Sex NOT Trying to Get Pregnant?
Posted: 8/14/2009 6:49:38 PM |
Easy if u dont want to get pregnant where a condom or use birth control. A women can help with birth control. Everyone does it once in a while with out the condom. If u get pregnant dont cry u asked for it . And no its doesnt mean u want a baby,sex just feels better without it. u both know what can happen so dont say she is just trying to keep u .I hate it when guys say that about women . Its not always true.
However, if a woman has unprotected sex all of the time, one can only conclude that she wants a baby. | |
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