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 Balled Eagle

Joined: 2/12/2009
Msg: 26
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Posted: 8/12/2009 10:08:05 PM
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BTW forum management removed the religion AND politics forums, over a year ago,
as too much endless arguing and flaming occurred on them for many years. Now, anything that fits in either of those categories has only "off topic" as it's rightful home.
So... a few spin off sites were started by disgruntled members so that they could continue arguing and flaming and pretty much disregard anything to do with dating and relationships, like they were here! lol


The Religion forum has not been removed. Only the link to it has been removed from the main forums page.

A thread search for "religion" would help you find it, or you can go here:

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingForum12.aspx
 KanukShmuk

Joined: 3/16/2009
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Posted: 8/12/2009 10:16:11 PM
Try the Off Topic Section: Religious and political verbal volleyball for any one interested.
 ritawayward

Joined: 4/17/2007
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Posted: 8/13/2009 10:42:32 AM

The Religion forum has not been removed.

My apologies for passing on this incorrect information and thanks for the heads up BE.I got my information about both from the disgruntled members forums ( silly me)
and thats what they are convinced of, lol! I will check these things myself before/if I post about them, everytime, in future.
 meat me

Joined: 8/1/2009
Msg: 29
United Church Declares War on Israel
Posted: 8/13/2009 10:47:04 AM
Lots of fighting; who's winning the war
 ritawayward

Joined: 4/17/2007
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Posted: 8/13/2009 10:53:26 AM
Lots of fighting; who's winning the war


I have noticed that for those who fight passionately and regularly ( really not into it myself so I step out at any early sign of it) it's alot like the "chase" thing.
It's not really about the war .... it's the thrill of the fight! lol
Or at least, people lose sight of why the war exists and keep fighting for the sake of it.

There ARE things I believe in fighting for!
Wars and anything written by someone on the forums are not among them.
 Balled Eagle

Joined: 2/12/2009
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Posted: 8/13/2009 11:18:55 AM
I'm not surprised the link to the Religion forums has been removed.

If the heated discussion in the BC thread "God in word" (http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts11317653.aspx ) is any indication religion, spiritual beliefs, and God are so very controversial topics.

Many people define themselves with their spiritual beliefs. Their conviction is so strong that they will commit unkind, cruel acts in the name of their beliefs.
 Worse Than Ever

Joined: 6/25/2009
Msg: 32
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Posted: 8/13/2009 12:54:58 PM
i wasn't slamming the OP, i was slamming a fascist response! can't tell which one? sheeeeesh...i'm going back to bed
 ~JaneSays~

Joined: 5/6/2009
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Posted: 8/13/2009 4:21:16 PM
^I think most people understand that you were not slamming the OP who I would like to thank once again for bringing this topic to our attention.
 debra2008

Joined: 1/27/2008
Msg: 34
United Church Declares War on Israel
Posted: 8/13/2009 9:39:39 PM
Call me stupid but I don't see the fascist here - pretty strong words -totally inappropriate to this forum.
 Mountain Lion 1

Joined: 10/25/2006
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Posted: 8/13/2009 11:43:20 PM
^^^^ think nothing of it, it is really nothing
just a word glitch, usually happens when waking from between the tranquilizers
seems the OP glitched too taking a minority group's thoughts of staging a protest boycott as an act of war.

Suggest the OP to read some of the works of a distant acquaintance of my family, the late Ephraim Kishon. Perhaps reading the satires of life and people in Israel and their tendencies to sensationalize and dramatize may open his heart to see things a little lighter.
Saying that it is not intended to belittle the actual and very grim realities of the Middle East and the powers at will there.

But as long as the North American Jewish people and with them the US government treat Israel like their spoiled rotten child handing out candies for misbehavior while waving the index finger at them saying: "you have to be good now", nothing will change.

I suppose business prospects of real war are just too good an opportunity for those who care not who dies, after all humans are a renewable resource for cash.
 ATerribleAspect

Joined: 6/26/2007
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Posted: 8/14/2009 11:42:20 AM
actually, mountainlion, the fact that your source of satire is an israeli author that inspite of his penetrating satire, is a well accepted author, producer, journalist, and playwright within the israeli community only reflects on the acceptance of self criticism and self ridicule within israeli culture.

i think you're the one who needs to lighten up ;)

it's interesting how we both look at the same object and see something completely different according to our personal agenda.
 Mountain Lion 1

Joined: 10/25/2006
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Posted: 8/14/2009 12:00:59 PM
it's interesting how we both look at the same object and see something completely different according to our personal agenda


indeed friend you may be right
and perhaps personal experiences of loss of trusted friends at a more innocent age (much younger than you are now) and for the sole reason of being part of other powers agendas led me to conclude to pursue a path of pacifism.
You may consider such agenda as wrong and I'm not about to argue my case, but as much as I accept your thoughts (agree or disagree) I trust you'll have the grace to accept mine, even if you cannot understand them.
 ritawayward

Joined: 4/17/2007
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Posted: 8/16/2009 7:04:38 PM
Anyone who doesnt like my posts CAN pass over them and not comment too!
Does NOT mean they are going to!
If you post here you are offering your thoughts for discussion and opinion.
You can suggest all you want but, that doesnt mean you are going to avoid opinions about what you say here, that you don't like, unless YOU don't read them.

I will continue to read and comment on any posts here, that I chose to, as I always have. Save your breath and refrain from posting (on a public forum) if you want a different outcome than you are experiencing.
 ~JaneSays~

Joined: 5/6/2009
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Posted: 8/16/2009 7:36:08 PM
^Fine. I wish you would pass over my posts, too, for the same reason. We are not on the same page. Also, please remember to stay on topic.

Personally, I do not find this particular church's behavior very Christian. Whatever happened to loving all our brothers and sisters and doing onto others as you would have them do onto you?
 MediaNaranja

Joined: 12/27/2008
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Posted: 8/16/2009 7:54:25 PM

Personally, I do not find this particular church's behavior very Christian. Whatever happened to loving all our brothers and sisters and doing onto others as you would have them do onto you? ~JaneSays~

Good point ^^^ and this is the heart of the matter.
Sometimes loving loving our brothers and sisters includes defending them from harm. The trick is knowing how and doing it for the right reasons rather than greed.
As you know many nations have been involved in war under the guise of peace keeping and defending justice when in reality it was only covert greed.

This thread itself looks like a war zone.

MN
 MediaNaranja

Joined: 12/27/2008
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Posted: 8/16/2009 8:12:09 PM

I will continue to read and comment on any posts here, that I chose to, as I always have. Save your breath and refrain from posting (on a public forum) if you want a different outcome than you are experiencing. ~ ritawayward

Hmmm! Interesting philosophy... read it this way:
"I will continue to remain on the road and drive any way I chose to, as I always have. Save your breath and refrain from driving (on a public road) if you want a different outcome than you are experiencing.
Dangerous logic, no?

To express one's desire to be treated with respect is NEVER a waste of breath, never.

MN
 ATerribleAspect

Joined: 6/26/2007
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Posted: 8/20/2009 3:06:19 PM
All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again...
The fact of the matter is that you're getting caught in something ugly, soemthing that has little to do with justice
and more to do with petty vengeance and personal resentment.
There was something similar in February when Jamie Griffiths called a boycott on the Israeli dance company Bat Sheva just before it was due to perform in Vancouver.
The issue sparked a similar debate (and i'm actually wondering how the performance went, if anyone knows)
Anyways, one of the responses raises an interesting question :


I suppose if we’re boycotting Batsheva, then we should also boycott Canadian artists as Canada has a rather grim record of treatment of First Nation’s Peoples, not to mention our current role in Afghanistan, and we should certainly boycott all American artists for obvious reasons. Sudanese artists should most definitely be boycotted as should all Sinhalese artists, Chinese artists, Burmese artists, and Afghan, Iranian and most certainly Libyan and Chadian artists should be boycotted. So should Congolese artists and…oh dear I give up, the list is too long.

http://www.plankmagazine.com/feature/proposed-batsheva-boycott-sparks-debate

I'm not entirely sure what the United Church is specifically targetting in their boycott, but for all you know it could be individuals that might severely oppose the political reality you're protesting against.
There is something very wrong and very hypocritical about indiscriminantly targetting privately owned businesses based purely on nationality. Especially when that is the very same thing you're allegedly protesting against.
 meat me

Joined: 8/1/2009
Msg: 43
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Posted: 8/20/2009 3:30:42 PM
terrible aspect

I hear you pal! I agree wholeheartedly.
As I 've said before, what's new, religion is being used as a political tool.
I say think about it; it's all so much B.S.
So many people merely parret religious dogma; this is not free thinking.
I say, try to take a step back from your religious indoctrination, and see what you are saying/doing.

I speak generally, and equally to all.
 gloomygus

Joined: 4/25/2009
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Posted: 8/20/2009 5:17:09 PM
i get the feeling some of you were trolls in past lives.
 4fingersHigh

Joined: 8/22/2005
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Posted: 8/20/2009 5:19:03 PM
FINE ! Then send ALL the UC Priests over to fight the F%%$ing War. See who's laughing now BOZO. ( and I mean the "Royal BOZO") not you. United My A$$.
 4fingersHigh

Joined: 8/22/2005
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Posted: 8/20/2009 5:23:03 PM
NOT YOU *

The Church and War... interesting concept.
 ritawayward

Joined: 4/17/2007
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Posted: 8/21/2009 1:30:12 PM
Wish, request, whatever you want to call it...
when you post on the forums your message is made available for comment by ALL forum posters whether their comments are "on the same page" or not! The only time a forum poster is required to refrain from posting is when they are consistantly, repeatedly in violation of forum rules. Some are being less enforced, for quite some time now, such as naming posters (when it is in a friendly manner) on a local forum.

If you want everyone to agree with you or see things your way (and say so)
start a blog!
 meat me

Joined: 8/1/2009
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Posted: 8/21/2009 2:17:12 PM
PRAISE THE LORD, AND PASS THE BULLETS
 ritawayward

Joined: 4/17/2007
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Posted: 8/22/2009 11:07:36 AM
It used to be the "The pen is mightier than the sword".
Since, both are nearly obsolete ... I will update it to
The message is mightier than bullets!
 ~JaneSays~

Joined: 5/6/2009
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Posted: 8/22/2009 3:05:24 PM
PRAISE THE LORD, AND PASS THE BULLETS


Cute

I suppose we should not paint all members of organized religion with the same brush. Some might pass flowers, peace signs, love and -------------
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