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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 9/13/2009 6:41:07 AM | Quoted in full, because it's so right on: Farceur:
<div class="quote">A man and woman who see only their own difficulties and not those of their counterpart will make it harder for themselves by making it impossible for the other. You need to understand things from the other side in order to get along. Help each other make it easier and it will be. Demand to be accommodated and you'll get nowhere. Work together as a team on this. It's good practice in case when you wind up wanting to have sex, one of you needs to hold the flashlight while the other fumbles with the key to the chastity belt. Work as a team.
Those chastity belts are a biatch! But seriously, all of this complaining about someone else having it better gets you nowhere, male and female alike. A lot more relationships would be a lot more successful, IMO, if people would take the attitude of being a team, rather than acting adversarial in "what's in it for me."
Most people in my family have long, stable marriages, and after observing them for years, I think a couple having the attitude of "us" as opposed to "me and my partner," is the key to their success. Understand what your partner is dealing with, be supportive and sympathetic. Too many people seem to make light of other's troubles with the attitude: oh, you couldn't possibly have it as bad as I do. That's just no way to be in a relationship, or even looking for one. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 9/14/2009 10:03:38 AM | I've always said a woman who walks into a place and says "who wants to screw" and 8 guys are jumping over the tables to get there first... a guy walks into the same place and says the same thing and they just look and say "***hole"....
Yeah but how about: a woman who walks into a place and says "who wants to have a long-term relationship"? Just watch the place clear out... | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 9/14/2009 10:42:52 PM | I honestly don't waste time trying to figure out the logic, validity or fairness of this concept. You will frustrate yourself even worrying about it. The dating game is what it is whatever the case. All I know, if I see a young lady I want to get to know, I can MAN UP AND GO MEET HER MYSELF. I don't worry about if it's fair or not that she didn't try to meet me first. If we hook up in the end that's all that matters to me. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 9/15/2009 3:45:24 AM | "a woman who walks into a place and says "who wants to screw" and 8 guys are jumping over the tables to get there first..."
Such a line of BS, if I've ever heard one. Not only would no guy be jumping over a table, they'd wonder what game she was playing and if they were being set up. (Chris Hanson may be around the corner! LOL)
Girls with the guts to be forward and ask for what they want get the same distrust guys encounter. I've noticed this happens more in the North than the South. Maybe it's time to start importing my boyfriends. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 9/15/2009 4:27:08 AM | Miss NC - Not a line of BS!!! lol .. I will Never forget being in a clubhouse many moons ago, with a friend .. all of a sudden one of the other women stood up and said she'd "do whoever wanted it" blahblah .. the line up was Immediate! my friend and I left .. If you really don't believe that guys would respond to a woman saying "who wants to screw?" .. lol .. you gotta git out more! lol ..
If this thread had said "I think girls can get laid easier than guys" .. I would have agreed 100%. I'm 51 and I can guarantee If I wanted to "get laid" I could probly find someone in 7 minutes! That's how long it would take me to get to where there are men .. dam country living! lol .. However ... it would take considerably longer to find someone to be in a Relationship .. This I know .. Love country living! :)
We Are different - men and women .. it's sposed to be that way .. and I for one am glad we are .. different  | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 10/18/2009 3:18:39 PM | The OP could not be more correct. At only 21 he is very observant.
I'll give three examples right off the top of my head.
I have a friend that has two daughters, one is 32 and the other 24. I asked my friend how each daughter met their BF's. The older one went to a take out food place to pick up an order and while sitting at a table some guy walked up to her and gave her his phone number. She eventually called him and now they are married. The other daughter was sitting in a car in front of some place and some guy walked up, next thing you know they are living together.
Another women (that happened to be a transvestite) was standing on a street corner and some successful business man driving down the street stops to hit on her/him whatever the case may be. Next thing they are dating. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 10/19/2009 5:13:19 AM | Women who are looking only have it easier if a guy they like approaches (or they say fvck it and date some clod they don't like out of laziness). If that doesn't happen, which is more likely then it's not a walk in the park for either gender.
But if people would change the sequence of dating and only date when someone they like comes along and stop obsessing in the meantime - it gets way easier. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 10/19/2009 12:02:42 PM | Men just have to know what they are able to obtain...I can tell by first glance if I am at all in her league. Average looking men should just date average looking women. Forget the hotties, the model types. I have never approached, nor dated any women that a ton of guys drool over. Unless of course the people with me do not agree with me, then I prove to them that yes the above average women, do not date and do not give average looking men the time of day. Always shuts em up in the end...rejection can be fun. Only thing that women have that is frustrating, is too many of us undesirable men approach them. I try my best not be one of those men. It must be such a pain and annoying to have so many undesirable guys approach you ladies.
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 10/19/2009 2:53:57 PM | ^^^Nice try but since undesirable is subjective - that argument doesn't really hold much water. I am sure at some point in everyone's life a person approached them they didn't have interest in...just as they liked/approached someone who wasn't interested. No one is above it.
Only women who are lost without a date, won't initiate, and get approached by men they aren't into are bummed about who's approaching them.
The rest of us are polite and social and don't care because we either go after what we want, aren't that worried about dating unless the guy is our type, or both. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 10/19/2009 4:41:37 PM | ^^^agreed. The only time I would get annoyed is when I went to certain POF events and it was all men I would never be interested in. However, that was my fault for continuing to go to these events. So I changed things, stopped going and joined a different group.
When I am in a different setting than what I described above, it doesn't bother me.
Note that I said, I "changed things" - so I would stop complaining. It worked. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 10/19/2009 10:38:31 PM | It's the age-old catch 22 of life...
Women have it easier in getting what men want (the opposite sex chasing you AND sex). While men have it easier in finding what women want (a devoted, loyal, & attentive partner).
That being said, in a basic sense, I agree with your premise that women have it easier. Most women, even below average looking women, get attention from men on some kind of a regular basis. It may not be the kind of attention they want or are looking for, but they do get it. Is it based on the "sex" role (many men are interested in them for sex only)? Probably.
Meanwhile, a below average looking man VERY rarely gets attention in public.
It's always been peculiar to me that most of the people I know who go right into another relationship after a break up.... are women. From the people I know who do this... 90% of them who are women.
Most (not all) men I know are single for quite a while after a break up. A factor in this must be options....the women have more options (i.e. guys ready and willing to date them) while the guys have less.
Now one positive in this, is that a guy....if he wants to go out and is not in the mood to be bothered, it's not problem, he likely won't be. Women on the other hand have to deal with this MUCH more. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 10/19/2009 11:39:06 PM | Typical Dating Organism:
Women = quantity of dates (guys approach them, are taken out*) + some quality dates (based on sheer number of offers-good matches or bad matches) Men= quantity of dates (IF they approach the women-NOT FACE REJECTION-, take these women out out*) + quality dates (if majority of their courting attempts are not rejected, based on sheer number of actual dates- good matches or bad matches)
Basically, the equation for both men and women are the same but the intrinsic nature of dating makes it a little less demanding of women.
Key Bank: =Have *To some women, financially supported for the first few dates is mandatory
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 10/20/2009 12:12:49 AM | Well yeah dude...girls are FLOODED by male attention ALL THE TIME. That's where they have it easy. Where it's difficult for them is finding a QUALITY guy. That's where it gets tricky.
As you mentioned in your OP though, it's a man's job to take the initiative and get the ball rolling. This is a good thing for us. See, while we may have to deal with the occasional feminine silliness in our quest(s)...at least we get to do the CHOOSING when it comes to where we put our focus.
Women don't have it like that, bro. They're basically stuck picking from mostly bad choices that get presented to them.
But what can they do? It's in the rulebook that it's the guy's job to make the first move.
Bottom line is: Be an awesome guy. Accept that you have to work for what you want. Get to it and go make a little lady smile  | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 10/20/2009 2:23:32 AM | Of course women got it easier.
The person who wins the lotto will always tell you 'I did it, so can you" trying to convince you to spend all your hard working money on what is statisticaly not in your favor.Or in other words, just because there are hundreds of women who approach guys there trying to convice you that this is normal when in reality this is not generaly how things work.
An unattractive woman may not get approached but she would still have a shot if she would actually persue a man.Maybe not a model but she will get someone.
A unattractive man on the other hand will most likey never get hit on but if he go's and tries to pickup on a girl, he may never get any girl.Which is why I honestly feel looks matter more to females.
Even the most unattractive girl can get a guy out because there will always be a lonely man out there horny enough to take whatever he can get.Yes when it comes to a serious relationship,us men would like the whole package but sex will always be a priority and we shouldnt be ashamed of that. In fact it is healthy for us and cause us harm without it (Google prostate cancer), so we do in a way need it. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 10/20/2009 5:08:31 AM |
That being said, in a basic sense, I agree with your premise that women have it easier. Most women, even below average looking women, get attention from men on some kind of a regular basis. It may not be the kind of attention they want or are looking for, but they do get it. Is it based on the "sex" role (many men are interested in them for sex only)? Probably.
Meanwhile, a below average looking man VERY rarely gets attention in public. It's only better for women who thrive on attention, and bad for men who are the same.
It's always been peculiar to me that most of the people I know who go right into another relationship after a break up.... are women. From the people I know who do this... 90% of them who are women.
Most (not all) men I know are single for quite a while after a break up. A factor in this must be options....the women have more options (i.e. guys ready and willing to date them) while the guys have less. Usually it's a number of things, a major one being women grieve better as they seek emotional support and take less time to move on.
Now one positive in this, is that a guy....if he wants to go out and is not in the mood to be bothered, it's not problem, he likely won't be. Women on the other hand have to deal with this MUCH more. You got that right. Can't go anywhere people are without dealing with men who assume you're there looking for company.
As you mentioned in your OP though, it's a man's job to take the initiative and get the ball rolling. This is a good thing for us. See, while we may have to deal with the occasional feminine silliness in our quest(s)...at least we get to do the CHOOSING when it comes to where we put our focus. Women do too, if they approach men they like - they unfortunately can't get men to stop approaching them though.
Women don't have it like that, bro. They're basically stuck picking from mostly bad choices that get presented to them. Some women are, I agree. If I had to do that, I'd probably resign myself to solitude.
But what can they do? It's in the rulebook that it's the guy's job to make the first move. They could publish a new rulebook. | |
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