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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/14/2009 11:58:50 PM | maybe you are right...but when the relationship ends...or the women gets dumped or she has to end the relationship for different reasons, such as not ready or the right person is missing...the women feels it more...why is that? we think with emotions...it is hard for a woman to have feelings and get hurt...a woman has to feel that she is in control and unfortunately...she is not when she is hear broken and she is missing her love...it is happening to me...we are on a different level...plus he has a wonderful son...i can put a gun to his head...i do not want to be his friend with benefits..or hate him...so i move on...he is a great guy...i would move in with him and get married eventually...he is afraid of commitment...what a woman do? move oneventhough she can talk to these man 4 -6 times a day...we were together for 11months...then broke up...after 2 months of no talking we briefly met...then we started talking for a month..we have seen each other twice...it hurts but life goes on...cna not be distraught and ruin my life...there are other planes flying and that plane is not working properly...what willl happen...will happen...take care...good luck and be optimistic | |
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Posted: 8/15/2009 12:04:22 AM | I didn't read every post (my old eyes are tired tonight), and I hate to bring up "age", but shit, you're too freakin' young to be sounding so negative and defeated! save that for those that have a few user miles under the belt.
really, you should be out and mingling with your peers rather than waiting for someone to find you, especially on a dating site. stop trying to force the issue of finding your "mate". young dudes like yourself probably know of parties and clubs and other social events to go to just to have fun, but don't turn them into a means to "find the one". you're 21--go start living your life! have fun, enjoy your friends. keep things simple.
don't mope.
sounds to me like someone woke up in a bad mood today... | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/15/2009 12:22:19 AM | I don't know if you come across as defeatist and whiny in real life as you do in this post, but if you do, I can see why you're not having much luck. The fact is, dating is hard for everyone. We all put ourselves on the line in hopes of hitting it off with the right person, and when it doesn't work out, it's painful for everyone involved.
As the typical "wallflower," I spent most of my teens NOT being approached by guys, ever. Yeah, that was wonderful! Really great for the old self-esteem. /sarcasm That's when I started doing the asking sometimes. And you know what? I got rejected a lot, just like guys do when they ask. But somewhere in the midst of putting myself out there, I found that I was meeting some worthwhile people, and making some great friends. Some of those friendships led to romantic relationships; most of them didn't. I also learned that I didn't need to be accepted all of the time. Not even most of the time. I only needed one great person to say yes to getting to know me, and that made all of the rejection become a distant (and occasionally humorous) memory. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/15/2009 1:04:33 AM |
I'm a guy who thinks Women have it way easier, or just not as hard as Men do when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, Boyfriend/Girlfriend, etc. Does anyone else have to agree with that?
OP, at a glance, yes. but in the long run, no. Guys have it far much easier. For a 50 year old man, it's accepted for him, especially if he has the funds, to date a girl that's 25. Try the reverse, and it's not so easy for women. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/15/2009 1:34:20 AM | | Are you saying I have to approach women under 21? I don't know how many girls I have approached and talked to, it's just that almost all the time, when I am interested in a girl, she always has a boyfriend already, I know you are going to say "Well find a girl that does not have a boyfriend, not every girl has a boyfriend already". Seriously, I wish girls would put a sign or sticker on them that says "Single" or "Taken", that way I can stop approaching girls who are taken already. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/15/2009 5:51:06 AM | ^^^
So special notices JUST for you, eh? Sounds lazy. Do the work we ALL have to do.
Seriously, girls have it so much easier, it's like they can get a boyfriend or a date whenever they want to.
Utterly false.
girls never approach guys and never ask guys out, girls never initiate conversations with guys, that is my point, it's always the guy that does the pursuing and chasing, thats the way it is and the way it is always going to be, unfortuneately.
Again... UTTERLY false. I do the approaching often.. as do a lot of women on this thread. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2009 6:50:42 AM |
5. OH! The guy that says he had a great time and only pays for his half
I always find this amusing. Woman say you have to change with the times, I see it all the time through these threads.. Men should change.. woman should change..
Well ladies, you wanted independence, equality and so on.. Well, you got it.. The man wants to pay for his meal, because that is being equal.. He pays for his, you pay for yours..
Its the same old thing over and over.. Equal rights, bla bla, till it doesn't suit you, like paying for a bill, alimony and so on.
Think about it.. On these dating sites, people often meet lots of people before they find someone, if they even do find someone.. So, you ladies think its fair to expect the guy to pay for every dinner he takes a lady out on to see if there is any attraction.
I guess you don't really want equality..
Myself, I was brought up to be a gentlemen, which means to pay for the meal.. But, I am not going to pay for meals with every woman I meet up with from a dating site. I know for a fact there are woman that go out on dates regularly on sites like this one, just to have a free night out. Whats so wrong about a woman paying for her share of the meal on a first date? which is only really a first meeting anyway, not an official date. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2009 7:52:31 AM | RUSTIC36-
HOLD YOUR HORSES!
These situations I mentioned were all from meeting someone in person and 'them' asking me out. You obviously did not not notice that I just joined this site. Or have you even read my profile? I am saying that there are not women that are all about a man paying for everything, but in the longrun, if you are on a date with me that you 'ask' me out on you should pay. Now, if the date is terrrible and we both understand that then 'dutch' is appropiate. With that said you do not have a leg to stand on. I do appreciate that you read my post. It's not about equal rights, it's about men remembering to court us. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2009 8:09:48 AM |
It's not about equal rights, it's about men remembering to court us.
Thats one of the problems right there.. There are many men, that do not know what a woman wants anymore..
They pay for the meal, the woman complains. says, I do have my own money.
They open the door for her, she complains. Says, I am capable of opening a door..
Thanks to the radical feminists, there are many men out there that have no idea what women want anymore or how they are supposed to treat her or what place a man even has in her life.
Myself, I couldn't care less. I'm a gentleman and I will open the door etc. If she doesn't like that, then, its simple.. She's not the right woman for me. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2009 8:59:53 AM | | I completely and totally disagree that women have it easier. Maybe if your a drop dead gorgeous woman, but when you're an average looking woman........you could be smart, funny, adventurous, personable and outgoing but not forward in asking a guy out, the invitations to dinner or even coffee are very few and far between. I could go to say it almost never happens. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2009 9:09:09 AM | I'll simply cut through the fog and side roads and go directly to the conclusion:
What does an individual truly have to LOSE by approaching a person he/she like? Nothing!
What does an individual have to GAIN by not doing anything and not approaching a person he/she like? Nothing!
in the end it is as simple: Do or don't!
Inactions (based on fear or not) produce absolutely no results.
Is one gender have it easier then other? who care! YOU as an individual, what have YOU done to approach another person? or WHY are you doing nothing to do so?
Fear? misplaced pride? Outdated protocols?
Results people...is the only thing that matters. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2009 9:56:13 AM | Okay, this is how you can make a discovery channel moment out of this post:
LOOK! There on the hill! Is the rare Mr. Amazing Date that I’m going to marry! He’s coming this way. Look at the stature, the swagger, the amazing ease. I just need to stand in my deer blind and wait for him. He’s coming this way! It’s guaranteed. That rare animal has an amazing sense of smell. He knows I’m here waiting. No matter what’s in the way, he’ll find me. Sure thing.
I love the generalization posts. All women this, all men that, all short/tall/skinny people. All overweight. The problems on Mars are much worse than the conditions on Venus. The water over here is saltier than what you’re drinking. If you ONLY knew how difficult it was being me……
Relationships are hard. There is no smoking gun. I’ve even known some rare beauties that had nothing going on Saturday evening. NOTHING. No dates. Nothing at all. So what’s your point?
Perhaps a positive slant would be to work on yourself and prepare yourself for the promised challenges that a relationship will bring when you find it. If you think that first date is hard then perhaps you should sit out of the dating pool for a while. | |
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Posted: 8/16/2009 6:52:08 AM | This is an interesting thread, I didn't get to read the whole thing but some of the posts and it is quite interesting to see what some men and women think of it.
I think women do not realize how much easier they do have it these days in the dating scene. Take online dating for example. Women get so many messages, they most times will pick the best looking guy(s) out of the bunch to reply to. The choosing usually benefits women as men have to hope to get a reply back. But with so many men on sites, men have to compete and women can sit back and let the attention come in.
Men know that if they are not paying for the dates, then he has a good chance of losing the girl to someone who will spend his money freely on her.
I know a couple of guys who go on 3-4 dates a week with either the same women or sometimes different ones. Some guys cannot afford that, not being that he makes a crappy income, but everyone has thier bills to pay every month. Sometimes women forget this and call men cheap or broke because he can't afford to always pay for nights out. Women know there are lots of guys out there who will. Again a benefit for the women.
Most times men are just good for thier money, driving the woman where she wants to go etc. But it is up to the guys to know what he is good for.
Also women do expect men to accept rejection and move on.
An example is say in a bar, one guy is seen approaching 3 women and gets shotdown. Other women see this and it becomes amusing to them I am sure. Just like if they see a guy approach women and get say hugs from the women he approaches, they like that and hope he comes thier way.
Someone said that they approach the guys? That is so rare still today and only the guys who stand out being hot looking may be the lucky ones to have the women come to them.
As for us men having to court women, sure it is true we are the pursuers, women are pursued. But don't women hate it when us guys who are not thier type court them and pursue them? I think some hate it but some like it because it keeps thier rejection mode in tact. 
Just my opinion | |
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Posted: 8/16/2009 9:34:41 AM |
girls never approach guys and never ask guys out, girls never initiate conversations with guys, that is my point, it's always the guy that does the pursuing and chasing, thats the way it is and the way it is always going to be, unfortuneately.
Again... UTTERLY false. I do the approaching often.. as do a lot of women on this thread.
Just because you, of the very few women, who do the approaching - doesn't prove that OP's statement is entirely UTTERLY false.
This is a assessment done by a panel of women at a social get together, who I'm friends with, in which I didn't ask for their advice, but was assumed why I'm still single...they said my problem is that I don't chase women. So it's anonymous, by what you can call a "study group" or "microcosm" of what most woman want - to be chased.
I also agree with them, that one of the reasons I'm still single is that I don't chase and I don't believe in chasing. | |
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Posted: 8/16/2009 9:46:49 AM | | I think you're misunderstanding something. Guys are naturally more aggressive than women meaning that they are the ones most likely to approach the woman first, but that doesn't make it any easier on the woman and here is why. Men can take their time and carefully plan out who the want to pursue, but women are being bombarded by guys all the time with promises of this and that with disapointment following more times than not. Women end up with a lot of crappy guys because of this because they are never given time to fully get to know someone. Men can take their time and study who they want and see if she's the right one. Trust me, women have it just as hard as men do. Besides, grow some dude! You're not a kid anymore. You shouldn't be afraid of approaching women anyway. If she says no, then so be it. Keep it moving! | |
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Posted: 8/16/2009 10:31:42 AM | Okay wait. Assuming these girls are going out with guys, then guys are obviously getting as many girlfriends as the girls are getting boyfriends? NO?
Your assumption makes no sense. How can you even quantify it with anything but personal rhetoric?
Men have been the "initiaters" since human kind began.
We are slowly evolving...give it a bit more time.
In the meantime, all you need to do is make sure you aren't a knuckle dragger and you'll eventually get scooped up if you prefer the passive route to love.
Then again, if you aren't an Adonis, you might want to start initiating. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/16/2009 10:47:06 AM | WTF??????????
Where've you been?
Ever heard of Women's Lib or gender equality?
These days, women have just as much right AND responsibility to initiate a relationship that they want!
Women have it easy, in the sense that, they can easily find a guy to have sex with. Other than that, all bets are off.
Hold em to the task!
It's called EQUALITY, not PARTIALITY!
Which means, they are equal in right and responsibility in EVERYTHING! Not just when it suits them or is convenient for them!
So women need to get off their A$$es and go get the man they want! | |
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Posted: 8/16/2009 12:34:58 PM |
WTF??????????
Where've you been?
Ever heard of Women's Lib or gender equality?
These days, women have just as much right AND responsibility to initiate a relationship that they want!
Women have it easy, in the sense that, they can easily find a guy to have sex with. Other than that, all bets are off.
Hold em to the task!
It's called EQUALITY, not PARTIALITY!
Which means, they are equal in right and responsibility in EVERYTHING! Not just when it suits them or is convenient for them!
So women need to get off their A$$es and go get the man they want!
Don't get your panties all in a knot there "justnotthatintoyou".
Keep going with that mentality and I figure you'll remain dateless for a while. Contrary to popular belief, things aren't any more "equal" than they ever were. It's an illusion. Try doing some real research and find out for yourself. Don't take my word for it. Find the proof for yourself.
Where have I been. Oh, studying the obvious trends in this "equality" bullshit so many of you men here looooove to use to your advantage. You wouldn't know or understand this equality if it hit you upside the head. Provide me with some REAL proof that women are any more entitled than men to anything and I'll gladly swallow my words.
Until then...you either chase the skirts or you enjoy your relationship with the palm sisters.
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Posted: 8/16/2009 1:26:42 PM |
Provide me with some REAL proof that women are any more entitled than men to anything and I'll gladly swallow my words.
The point is that women are not more entitled to anything. This debate is about women who feel they are entitled to certain things (being approached, asked out on dates, having their meals and drinks paid for, etc.) and men's supposed responsibility for providing it to them. | |
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Posted: 8/16/2009 1:30:06 PM | I thought the debate was about who it the easiest when it comes to Love, dating and relationships.
If women don't offer to pay for their share or the entire meal, they're gold diggers. If they insist on paying, they're too feminist and not suitable for dating. If women don't ask men out, they're expecting men to do the work. If they do the asking, they're too forward and must have too many men around. | |
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