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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/16/2009 3:18:20 PM | Man, I used to think like that, too. But truthfully, women have just as much crap they have to deal with in the love/dating/mating/relationship/etc. area as we do. They just have different crap that we don't usually have to deal with.
A few examples:
Being routinely approached by guys they have zero interest in. Some merely annoying, some creepy and disgusting, and some flat out psycho.
Not being approached by the ones they're actually interested in (provided that they aren't the type to approach, themselves).
The constant worry about when it's appropriate to put out so as not to seem easy and not to seem prude, both of which will result in running a guy off.
Being pressured for sex after going out on one date with a guy.
There are more, but you get the idea.
I think you're looking at the "guys have to approach" thing from the wrong perspective. It's not that we have to approach. It's that we get to approach. We get to choose who we pursue. We don't get stuck wasting time with the ones we don't want. We have complete control over our options. A lot of women don't have that luxury. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/16/2009 3:38:21 PM |
Don't get your panties all in a knot there "justnotthatintoyou".
Keep going with that mentality and I figure you'll remain dateless for a while. Contrary to popular belief, things aren't any more "equal" than they ever were. It's an illusion. Try doing some real research and find out for yourself. Don't take my word for it. Find the proof for yourself.
Where have I been. Oh, studying the obvious trends in this "equality" bullshit so many of you men here looooove to use to your advantage. You wouldn't know or understand this equality if it hit you upside the head. Provide me with some REAL proof that women are any more entitled than men to anything and I'll gladly swallow my words.
Until then...you either chase the skirts or you enjoy your relationship with the palm sisters.
WOW!! You need to go do some more contemplating because you truly are clueless!
First of all, I don't wear panties............
I know, some are gonna say TMI!!!!!!
Maybe you live in a world of illusion. But I live in a world of experience.
I find the proof in the woman that made the first move and is here with me now.
Apparently you've been doing some selective studying. Not OBJECTIVE studying!
Sure equality works to my advantage sometimes. But without it, she wouldn't feel as though she's contributing to the relationship equally. So I accept it when she wants to pay. And I already have, several times, cooked for her!
So take your man-bashing elsewhere. It's not wanted or needed here!
If you choose to be a bitter and spiteful woman? Then I guess it will be YOU whom enjoys your relationship with the palm sisters!
I'm happily enjoying my relationship with my pof woman! | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/16/2009 4:29:37 PM |
I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
I disagree. I can't say its equal for any gender either. What I will allow myself to say is that the difficulty is only apparent to the person experiencing it.
If the person lacks confidence then it will be harder. If the person is socially unaware or lacks the ability to pick up on subtle social ques then it may be harder. If the person places themselves in a situation that is not efficient for picking up the object of their desire then it may be harder.
All these variables, and more, contribute to the level of difficulty in picking up a desired mate. I don't think the difficulty is either equal or unbalanced for either gender. I think it is "mainly" dependent upon the attitude of the person, and the environment the person is in.
With that said, I can say that many females have approached me, only to be rejected, and I have approached many females, only to be rejected. My reason for rejecting wasn't because I was put off by the approach or they were not to my liking. Often it was because I knew from the onset that we were looking for different things and I didn't want the person to waste their time.
When I was younger I use to jump into any relationship that came my way. Very very very bad Idea. Emotionally for me, and the person. Now I'm of the opinion that the best relationship is a sincere relationship. Sincere in that the dude isn't in the relationship to satisfy some urge and the significant other isn't trying to satisfy some urge also. (for instance the urge to not be lonely...). | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/16/2009 4:56:21 PM | well id love to meet these girls who chat up men and ask them out i think i deserve it lol.
I do believe girls do have it a bit easier just cause of the ratio i guess on this site (that was awhile back someone said it anyways)
Also i dont know of men who got the ladies literally lined up to pick and choose form so id still say women have it easier as they will be approached most of the time first and offers will be readily available compared to men but perhaps its just me. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/16/2009 8:02:45 PM | I believe you are misled, my friend. It is no more easier for women than it is for men when it comes to love, dating and relationships. Yes, the norm has always been for the man to make the first move. However, as the times have changed, more and more women are not going to wait around for a man to introduce himself, they will take the initiative and introduce themselves to someone that they'd like to meet. Yes, we have the same fear of rejection just as you do. But nothing ventured is nothing gained, right?
As some of the women have stated here, I, too, have been told that I am somewhat intimidating; where the hell that comes from, I have no clue. But for those men who have stepped beyond the feelings of intimidation and fear, they found that it wasn't as difficult as they first thought.
If it's become such a burden for you to make the first move, then you might want to think about your approach. If you're looking at her and she' s looking at you, you can bet money that she wants you to say hello. So get past your fears and go for it!!!!!
Again, nothing ventured, nothing gained!
Good luck to you. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/16/2009 8:12:22 PM |
I believe you are misled, my friend. It is no more easier for women than it is for men when it comes to love, dating and relationships. Yes, the norm has always been for the man to make the first move. However, as the times have changed, more and more women are not going to wait around for a man to introduce himself, they will take the initiative and introduce themselves to someone that they'd like to meet. Yes, we have the same fear of rejection just as you do. But nothing ventured is nothing gained, right?
As some of the women have stated here, I, too, have been told that I am somewhat intimidating; where the hell that comes from, I have no clue. But for those men who have stepped beyond the feelings of intimidation and fear, they found that it wasn't as difficult as they first thought.
If it's become such a burden for you to make the first move, then you might want to think about your approach. If you're looking at her and she' s looking at you, you can bet money that she wants you to say hello. So get past your fears and go for it!!!!!
Again, nothing ventured, nothing gained!
Good luck to you
Not sure if I agree 100% here. It is true for some reason alot of men find alot of women intimidating, I see this all the time. I know tall women get this alot.
I gave up on even approaching any women after getting shotdown 5 times in one night when I was out with friends. Mind you it became a fun joke for the night because one girl said "Your friend is good looking though"
Just because some woman is looking at a guy sure don't mean she is wanting him to say hi. I have believed that for years but realized the hard way, getting rejected.
Now I may go out the odd time, I observe, check out women, never say a word to them and just people watch. No fears on my part, just tired of the same old same old, when it becomes predictable what the outcome will be, the fun is gone and it becomes a waste of time.
Although I have made it a fun game to see how many rejections in one night I could get. I think the most was about 12 about 7 years ago. I'm sure I could double that these days.
Women have it so much easier and I think many know this but admitting it would make them look shallow, just like admitting they hold the power in dating would make them look bad. So of course tell men "You guys have it easier" so that men will think 'Alright, I can pick and choose' LOL | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/16/2009 9:12:39 PM | I wont say the op is wrong but anything can be looked at 2 different angles as a advantage or disadvantage.
Here is your advantage ladies= Guys will approach you.
Here is your disadvantage ladies=guys will approach you
This sounds like doubletalk but I see both sides of the arguement of a woman having this great advantage of having guys approach her and they probably wont shoot her down or reject her cause they approached her first/
Disadvatage is lots of jerks will also bother her as well. Lots og guys will charm the --- out of a woman{80 percent of charm is an illusion}
Once it gets passed this preliminary stage it all evens out and there are many exceptions of men going through what women generally go through and vice versa | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/16/2009 10:43:32 PM | Well, if it's a fact that simply isn't up for debate OP, then why even bother starting a thread on it?
I know that Men have been the Initiators since Human kind began,
Hmm. Men who lived in the matriarchal societies of the pre-Homeric Aegean cultures might beg to differ. And just because something has been a certain way much of the time, doesn't mean that things can't change.
Love just comes to Women, us Men have to fight tooth and nail for it.
I guess you really haven't been reading the thread. If you had, you might have noticed that there are quite a few women who don't have men approach them. Or that those who approach them are not what they are interested in. Even very beautiful women who are constantly approached by men don't automatically find the right one among all of them. Love doesn't come easily to anyone.
But, it seems that you're hell-bent on feeling sorry for yourself and blaming the universe for your lack of success. *shrugs* Far be it from me to rain on your pity-party any further. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/16/2009 11:16:39 PM | your "seasoned insight" is truly remarkable.
I hate to also bring up your age, but my fingers won't listen to the good angel on my right shoulder. the devil on my left seems to have the upper hand, so it's really not my fault what I might type...lol
your steadfast generalization that women just seem to "have it easier & get it all without trying" is a tad absurd. all women? through all time? I could claim the reverse but that wouldn't explain away all the women or even the men that are unhappily single, either.
sorry, but isn't your claim a bit dramatic?
you're too young to be so set in your way of thinking about the sexes. I've seen this kind of attitude from the older gents (and women) on here that have reacted to life and relationship issues over a span of years, but rarely from someone so young and green! honestly, how long have you been seeking "love"?
my words are not meant to belittle you, but to find out how you came to be so sure that women end up with men lining up and throwing themselves at their feet, while fighting off the competition.
dude, you're 21 and already you're convinced that men are at a disadvantage in finding "love"?
what happened to enjoying ones youth and letting life happen instead of trying to orchestrate "love"?
imo, love finds us when it's time to find us. there's no calendar and schedule for "love".
now, go and enjoy life. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 4:39:34 AM | Well I am a girl and you may count me out of that equation. Trust me it's not easy for us either. Two men have told me the same thing, you can have sex everyday, you can get any man you want. Says who? My answer should have been " oh yeah, I want you but can't have you." Women have a fear of rejection just like men do. My thinking is you just haven't met the right one, the one you click with and that will take you off this dating sight. I was laughing with a guy friend on the phone one day and he said he was going out to eat with some buddies of his that night, I said oh, going skirt chasing huh? He said no, I'm hoping someone will chase me. Trust me, when you chase this one you will get nowhere, he wants and likes to be the aggressor.
As for me, I am aggressive and a go getter, some men like it, some don't.
Some men will say an aggressive woman is clingy, needy, psycho, stalker all the other bs labels that are floating around out there. Some women will say the same about an aggressive man also.
If you get ignored or shot down, " Wow, your a flake, no good, player etc. etc., if you try and the other party isn't interested then you become stalker, psycho, nutjob.
Can't win for losing around here now can we? | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 5:39:37 AM | How is it that women have a fear of rejection? What if she is looking at the guy she wants across the room and he doesn't notice her? That is the rejection women fear?
I guess because it is so natural for women to reject men, they do not realize how it is not always so easy to approach them. Women, most anyhow, expect men to come to them. But because so many of us guy are not thier type in the image/looks dept, they get frustrated. I have seen it many times that about 10 women in a bar wanting the same guy and so they get pissed off because only undesirable men approach them.
It may be somewhat easy for us guys to choose who we want to approach, but women have it way easier because they can and most times do pick and choose who impresses them by acts and looks.
It must be fun for women to watch a stream of men compete for a her attention. I never compete, I see a group of guys all approaching the same woman, I say why compete with guys who are better at acting? She wouldn't be impressed by someone being real. | |
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