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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 8:35:19 AM |
It must be fun for women to watch a stream of men compete for a her attention.
It must be! But I wouldn't know because this has never happened to me. And I'm a woman. The world is upside down! I HAVE watched this happen to other women though, and frankly, it looks like a drag.
She wouldn't be impressed by someone being real.
How do you know this? You might be surprised! And would you really want to be around her if she can't appreciate someone who's real? | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 8:56:41 AM |
It must be! But I wouldn't know because this has never happened to me. And I'm a woman. The world is upside down! I HAVE watched this happen to other women though, and frankly, it looks like a drag.
Of course it looks like a drag, because the super hot guys that she wants seem to be approaching other women. The average everyday guys seem to approach her more and that has got to be a big time drag.
How do you know this? You might be surprised! And would you really want to be around her if she can't appreciate someone who's real
In reality, we all say we want someone real, but what we say and what we do are two total different things.
Real to many women and men for that matter is fantasy.
I see more average looking, everyday men get shotdown more than the great looking guys. The great looking guys win because they have the confidence, built from women wanting them so much.
What many women and men forget is, when you lack in a dept that most women will judge for a first impression, looks/image, then no matter you may be the sweetest, most fun type of guy they could ever meet, she won't care because that initial attraction is not successful. Is why many average looking men have to spend more money on women than thier good looking counterparts, because most times this will win thier attention, in turn they will appreciate the guy you are. Just some men do not have neverending funds to keep that going.
Is why many like the guys who put acts on, because it is impressive with thier creativity to do that. Being real equals boring. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 9:20:07 AM | So as a guy, we have to choose to either be attractive or interesting? Why not both. I'm definitely not model material, but I'm not tragic looking either. I've always had personality, a bit of charm, some charisma, and yeah been kind of a d!ck here and there. All in all though, I've always gotten by pretty good with both.
So it's not always an either/or situation. Just as every blond bombshell is not an airhead, and every bookworm isn't always nerdy.
No generalization is ever wholly true...
Not even this one.
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 9:35:08 AM | So every guy has looks and is interesting? Maybe in HIS own mind yes. But to women no. And some men just have to step back and realize what it is they lack. If they lack the outer attraction, they can try to tweak it, but looks are just that, looks. You can only get cosmetic changes if you got the money.
Women are most attracted to Power and Money. Guys can spend alot on clothes to give that illusion too. Again being fake, not real, where women mistaken it for real.
Not enough women are out there who can look beyond an average looking guy. She wants that initial "Wow" factor. He can be an awesome guy, but if he comes up short in the physical attraction standard, your personality means crap to her. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 10:16:24 AM |
WOW!! You need to go do some more contemplating because you truly are clueless!
First of all, I don't wear panties............
I know, some are gonna say TMI!!!!!!
Maybe you live in a world of illusion. But I live in a world of experience.
I find the proof in the woman that made the first move and is here with me now.
Apparently you've been doing some selective studying. Not OBJECTIVE studying!
Sure equality works to my advantage sometimes. But without it, she wouldn't feel as though she's contributing to the relationship equally. So I accept it when she wants to pay. And I already have, several times, cooked for her!
So take your man-bashing elsewhere. It's not wanted or needed here!
If you choose to be a bitter and spiteful woman? Then I guess it will be YOU whom enjoys your relationship with the palm sisters!
I'm happily enjoying my relationship with my pof woman!
The "cluelessness" aspect I won't even bother to justify with a response. That was just rude of you. Whatever.
The panties remark was an expression. I gave you the benefit of knowing that. Sorry I gave you too much credit there.
Maybe you live in a world of illusion. But I live in a world of experience.
Absurd. We both come from experience. We wouldn't be here if we hadn't. If you would like to argue my point, by all means do so, but please, do it with a bit more depth than that.
Apparently you've been doing some selective studying. Not OBJECTIVE studying!
Experience automatically makes us subjective. There really is no such thing as "objectivity" if you are a human being with a brain in your skull. Everything in our minds is subjective. EVERYTHING. We are unable to discern objectivity. At best we TRY to be objective. It's still impossible.
Sure equality works to my advantage sometimes. But without it, she wouldn't feel as though she's contributing to the relationship equally.
Contributing what exactly? And who gets to determine the "value" of each other's input? You? You call that equality? Her? You call that equality? Both of you? I call that compromise...NOT equality.
So take your man-bashing elsewhere. It's not wanted or needed here!
I don't recall bashing ANY man here. I do recall stating that the idea of gender equality is next to impossible and at best, will continue to serve as an illusion for the masses. It simply cannot exist.
If you choose to be a bitter and spiteful woman? Then I guess it will be YOU whom enjoys your relationship with the palm sisters!
Well, I'll admit I'm a bit disgusted with what you just spewed at me, but I certainly don't think I'm bitter toward anyone who engages in REAL discourse and who actually knows how to debate an issue and present a valid argument other than throwing non-intellectual bricks at me.
I'm happily enjoying my relationship with my pof woman!
Said like a true chauvanist. She isn't YOUR woman. She's your partner.
If you had a clue about this "equality" of which you speak, you'd have acknowledged that.
And forgive me, I didn't realize you were part of a couple. I hadn't bothered to look at your profile until you mentioned it.
I wish you all the best. You know, things being equal and all that. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 10:20:42 AM |
So every guy has looks and is interesting? Maybe in HIS own mind yes. But to women no.
Actually, a little bit of confidence has been shown to go a long way. Granted, you do have to have something to offer in the first place, but it doesn't have to be all that extraordinary if you know how to sell it.
Women are most attracted to Power and Money.
SOME women. SOME. Some, like me, consider both of those pretty irrelevant. Quite a few of us are happy with a guy who loves us, treats us well, and is loyal.
He can be an awesome guy, but if he comes up short in the physical attraction standard, your personality means crap to her.
So, would you enter into a relationship with a woman who has an amazing personality, but is physically repulsive to you? I hope not! I think that all of us want someone we're attracted to both mentally and physically.
I just don't think things are as grim as you make them out to be. Most of my friends and acquaintances are involved with average guys, none of them wealthy. If you look at the wedding page of your local paper, you'll see mostly average people getting married every day.
Believe me, I know it feels pretty hopeless when you're in the middle of a long dry spell, but nothing lasts forever, even the bad stuff. At one point, it seems like everyone except you is hooking up. But one day, it will be everyone AND you, and you won't even know what hit you!  | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 12:12:59 PM | I think women have it easier to get approached, but they have it harder in two regards.
1. Usually, the quality that is trying to pick them up is lacking.
2. They have to be weary of players, liars and crooks.
So, part of OP's answer is true and women have it easier in the dating world, but I think that women actually have it harder in the relatonship world. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 12:27:59 PM |
So, would you enter into a relationship with a woman who has an amazing personality, but is physically repulsive to you? I hope not! I think that all of us want someone we're attracted to both mentally and physically
I am only going by my past experiences that I have been always told I lack in looks. That is where I come up short, and it is the most important quality to get someone interested in me. Over the years I have dropped my standards drastically as I got older. I never attempt to talk to any women who alot would consider hot for example. I am not, so why waste hers and my time? Last thing any woman wants is an unattractive guy she is not at all interested in approaching her.
So I have to prove myself to women and even then it falls short because there is no initial attraction.
Tell me would you like an unattractive guy to approach you? Even though he may be an amazing guy, but he just does not make you go "wow"?
Sure maybe into my 50's women may get a bit desperate and find that I have been single for over 10 years and figure "why not, he is decent enough"
But it is hard to impress women in thier 30's and 40's these days, and it just gets tiring trying year after year. With the same end result, just told to you in a different way. Which at times is humourous because sometimes one can get caught off guard with a comment he has never heard. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/17/2009 2:01:00 PM | | That is what I mean, women have it easier in the beginning part, they have it easy in the part when it comes to getting a boyfriend or a date, but they could have it hard while in the relationship because the guy might end up cheating on her. Because us Men almost all the time have to initiate everything in the beginning, eye contact, the approach, conversation, etc. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/18/2009 8:35:10 AM | I can't speak for all guys or girls, but I can say for me, it isn't easy at all. Maybe I'm too exacting, or maybe I just automatically put everyone on the same playing field and it's their choice where to go from there. I'll walk up and chat with a guy, tell them complimentary though not too personal things, listen to what they have to say, and more often than not get passed over for the hottie a few feet away .
I guess some of us are more subtle in our approach - we like a little in the way of a real connection most times and I, for one, want to be sure that I'm accepted and wanted before I am comfortable enough to be bold. Rejection is definately the pits, and I know I am not everyone's cup of tea (nor do I want to be - that looks like a hellacious burden to me), so to put my neck out there, to be chopped off....Really now, who likes getting burned? I'm definately one who enjoys romance in all forms, but you wouldn't have any idea by looking or speaking to me unless I know that side of myself is welcomed.
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/18/2009 8:52:19 AM | I have to disagree or at least say that I'm in the minority then...I find it stimulating and attractive when the woman makes the first move...in this day and age...a modern woman should make the effort.. and not be constricted by Victorian ideas. Sure some women enjoy the chase but there's men like myself who like to be chased too and also like the frankness of a woman who just comes up and says, "Hey, I find you interesting, want to go out sometime?"
We all need to get past all the little games played in the name of social interaction | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/20/2009 3:08:20 AM | OP-
REFER TO LINE 30.
You are so young to be so...
What am I thinking? The women posting have experienced some major nut jobs and some of the men agreeing as well. Suck it up. My advice to you is when you see a woman you like just don't half step. If she wants you cool. If she doesn't move on.
I know I'm not about to run around in my heels to chase a guy. If he's a confident man he will approach. Then I will pray he's a good one. You can have a chance but understand this isn't high school any more. Be a big boy and make the transition.
Nuff said. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/20/2009 8:22:50 PM |
know I'm not about to run around in my heels to chase a guy. If he's a confident man he will approach. Then I will pray he's a good one. You can have a chance but understand this isn't high school any more. Be a big boy and make the transition.
Nuff said
So the man must do the chaing and approaching and then accept the rejecting?
Come on ladies, this 2009 and you ladies still want to stand along the wall like at the high school dance, wait for the guy to come to you? But then when it is not the guy you think is so hot, then what?
This is why I won't waste my time approaching any women nowadays. Because if I am not her type she will look at me and say "What do you want?" or "You're not my type" even before I say hi.
I think alot of men have endured enough rejection from the ladies that they just say why bother. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/20/2009 9:26:20 PM | | Guys who know how to approach women, yes they have it easier, but I still think women have it easier overall, because women almost all the time have the final say, like they get to accept or decline, I already know that's how it has been in Society for Thousands of years, it's Tradition, and it probably will never change, us Men usually always have to initiate everything with Women. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/20/2009 9:30:52 PM | | I couldn't disagree with you more...I think it is just as - if not more harder for women to find someone. First of all, I'm a woman that will initiate contact with a guy - I don't believe that they have to start the messaging - If I think someone is attractive - I will start the contact - I just think some of the guys who contact me - I'm not interested in and vice versa -OR what's worse, guys who start to contact me and I return it - we message a few times and then they go MIA without any explaination.....that is so frustrating!!!I wish it was easier for women, at least for myself....it really isn't - what's difficult for both men and women...is finding the RIGHT connection - two people who really are attracted to one another and follow through with the connection to talk and meet....that is the part that is hard for both. However....I truly believe that there is someone out there for all of us...it's just a matter of timing and when our paths cross. | |
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| I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc.
Posted: 8/20/2009 10:17:47 PM | | I think that when guys say they have to initiate things they mean sex. I speak to guys with or without their initating contact. Some guys get terribly intimidated by that, so I have to guess which guy is which. Neither sex has it easier. Men may say womn have it easier because when a guy sees an attractive woman walk by, and has no fear of rejection, he speaks to her. On the otherhand,if a woman sees an attractive man walk by, if she says something, she is looked at as aggressive. I make things easier for myself if I see a handsome man at a bar, buy him a drink, talk for a minute or 2, and walk away.He always follows, and that takes away the pressure of waiting for him to ask me to dance, or me looking too aggressive. | |
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