| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/17/2009 7:45:56 PM | I wouldn't do any job and if the choice was a minimum wage manual job over unemployment I would take unemployment every time. I have never been out of work but wouldn't sell myself short if I was and would keep applying and going for the right job for me. I am in the enviable position when it comes to finances that I could with sacrifices survive a year without a job if I had too and don't have dependents that rely on me.
I am a manager where I work and we have manual jobs that don't require experience and I am always wary not to hire over experienced people for those positions as they will up leave and leave you in the lurch when something better comes along and you wasted time and money training and recruiting them, this is also why I am reluctant to take any job even in the short term. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 12:11:18 AM | Well I'm currently trying to stop my own business from dying on it's feet due to the recession, and have been applying for quite a few jobs- but when you see 200 people at the same interview- it's kind of disheartening. I don't do interviews very well, and because of my self employed status over the last 20 years, agencies won't touch me.
I can turn my hand to anything, am very good at a lot of things, but it's jsut not happening for me right now.
I am surprised at the amount of women that have replied in a positive manner to this post, and shows the gulf between the mindset of most woman and many men. I am more than a little surprised by the lack of positive male responses tbh. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 1:07:41 AM | I would rather do anything than stay on the dole.
A long time ago I was forced to sign on, I ended up doing some unpaid work while I was between jobs.
I really dont know how people can sit at home "job seeking", Im just not somebody who can sit at home like that, a hand out is a hand out, and Im capable and willing to earm it so I earn it... no matter what! | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 4:02:30 AM | I understand what your saying and yes a job is the best situation. But can i just ask if anyone here has ever been in a job they totaly hate so much it makes their lives miserable?
I have very high morals, there are a few jobs i would totaly refuse to do. I would never work in an environment that supported cruelty to animals in any way and i would refuse to take a job in a food preperation/serving environment where i would be asked to handle meat products. I could never take any job be it clerical or manual in an environment that experimented on animals such as a lab or research centre. And finaly i would have issues working for any organisation that was environmentaly unethical.
So, if i had the choice of being unemployed or working as a receptionist in a research lab, then id go and do some voluntary work, doing some good for the community till a suitable job came up for me.
Id rather work for nothing than go against my personal beliefs and support something i knew unethical. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 4:29:44 AM |
I understand what your saying and yes a job is the best situation. But can i just ask if anyone here has ever been in a job they totaly hate so much it makes their lives miserable?
Yes. One that I loved when I started and which changed when a new manager came in.
I've been off 9 months out of the last 18 with work related stress. Tried everything to sort out my working conditions, employers not interested, formally and informally.
For the people who haven't been in a job that makes them ill, that's the way it should be but some employers really do not care about the welfare of their staff.
I would rather do anything than stay on the dole.
And if your job turned into a living nightmare? Not so easy, because if you walk away you risk getting no benefit, stay and you face the prospect of being very unhappy.
I really dont know how people can sit at home "job seeking", Im just not somebody who can sit at home like that, a hand out is a hand out, and Im capable and willing to earm it so I earn it... no matter what!
We are in the middle of a recession, the jobless total is going to hit 3 million by Christmas, I would imagine that a lot of people who thought that they would never been unemployed will be queuing up to claim their "hand out".
I know 4 people who have been made redundant in the last 6 months, one of them twice. If people have the skills and the opportunity to turn their hand to anything to bring in a wage, well good luck to them, there are others who won't be that fortunate. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 4:51:32 AM | I'm afraid I agree with the attitudes of the low skilled and immigrant population, what's the point in working when you can get the same money on the dole!? 
Therefore if I was in that position I would persue other interests in life such as art and physical sports. I have a musical talent so I guess I'd spend quite a bit of my time making music. If I got bored I may consider voluntry work but only if it was fun and opened up new opportunities.
Thankfully for me, I made something more of myself but if I was to end up bankrupt I'd be straight down the dole office to get my handout and that's a fact.
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 6:07:18 AM | There are people with an awful lot of time on their hands posting on this forum who are unemployed and say they would rather do voluntary work. If this is the case why are the forums so busy? shouldn't all these moralistic people be out doing such work?
I'm lucky enough to be in a profession that I can always find employment but am currently on sabbatical (via choice) looking after a family member and my families interests. No I am not claiming benefits but no I would not take "any" job. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 6:40:57 AM | I think the people who are saying they would rather do voluntary work than sign on are missing one very big point. The fact that when you do voluntary work you don't actually get paid for it. So how are you going to live day to day if you do voluntary work, don't get paid and don't sign on?
You are allowed to do certain amounts of hours of unpaid work and sign on and that's what I intend to do until something else turns up. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 6:41:56 AM |
You are allowed to do certain amounts of hours of unpaid work and sign on and that's what I intend to do until something else turns up.
You just answered your own question. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 6:49:30 AM |
You just answered your own question.
My own situation maybe, but the poster above me was talking about people who would rather do voluntary work than sign on. Not both if you read what she posted. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 8:31:14 AM | Well, let's put it this way...
I wouldn't feel very motivated at all working in a rubbish job for the minimum wage. When a policeman (PC) with 8 years' experience is paid £30,000 a year (if you don't believe me, look it up), I'd feel totally embarrassed and wouldn't last in the job, however hard I tried.
So it's not a case of whether I'd "rather" do any job, more that I wouldn't have a choice in the matter! | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 9:06:15 AM | | Im already doing a job that I would never have seen me doing, to stay in employment! sometimes when you have kids, its better to do anything, than them see you sitting on your arse. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 9:28:45 AM | No, I wouldn't!
I am in the lucky position that I have good qualifications and served an apprenticeship, but have fell on hard gorunds when jobs have been scarce. I did at the time think that any job was money to live on, until I took a job through an employment agency.
Now I am not having a go at anyone who is not as well educated, or finds it hard to get a job etc, this is just my personal experience, but I do feel sorry for those at the lower end of the pay scales.
The job I was given was to clean a factory that produced the inside of babies nappies!!
Now this stuff is awfull, it gets everywhere as it is a powder to start with, when it gets wet, i.e. comes into contact with sweat it turns sticky, much like glue ....
The factory area was very hot, you had to wear white coveralls and face masks, and the work was physically demanding, and the pay was very poor, but I thought it was better than sitting on benefits!
I was treated like crap, i could only go to the toilet or get water in the designated times, and when I went to get water on time i was shouted at and made to feel worthless by some 2 bit teamleader, who probably had less qualifications etc than myself.
Inevitably i told him what I htought of him, and the way he was conducting his workforce and walked out of the factory.
I must admit the employment agency where worried when I offered to take the vacancy and where right that the job was not for me!!
As I say some people do not have a choice, and I do genuinly feel sorry for the way they are treated, but I now always check and double check any job I am given, and will refuse the majority of them. If that makes me a benefit bum then I am sorry, but when I do work, I pay an awful lot into the system, so why should I not benefit from the system when I need to? | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/18/2009 9:50:23 AM | Thats rather rude pinkbow.
I have worked extremely hard to get the qualifications and experience i hold today, and iv taken some rather shitty jobs to get through it. Iv worked with violent teenagers who have been abusive, thrown things at me and said things i couldnt repeat on here. Iv cleaned up blood and sh!t, not complaining but yeah iv done it, someone has to right. Iv also cared deeply for the people iv worked with and gone home many nights in floods of tears after a day of seeing the suffering they live with.
And yes i got paid for it too.
There was a time when i was out of work, so used the time to gain more qualifications which paid off eventualy, learning to speak Urdu got me extra bonus payment when i worked in a nursery school of a mainly Muslim area where a lot of parents and grand parents didnt speak much English. I learnt to say a few words to them, they felt good that i took the time to learn how to and i got paid a little bonus for doing so, all happy.
I do have extremely high morals. I care deeply about the planet/the environment and campaign (with a voluntary group i work with) against what they are doing to our Earth. I care deeply about the lives of animals, humans too sometimes and cannot stand by and watch cruelty in any form.
No a research lab isnt community minded enough at all, and i dont wish to start a debate on animal testing for medicine, that would take another thread which i am not prepared to start here. Everyone is entitled to their personal beliefs, so errrrmm putting it politly UP YOURS!
Oh and just another note, id never work for any military organisation either.
Each to our own ok. No need to be so rude about my personal beliefs or choices.
As someone else here has already mentioned, you are allowed to do voluntary work while in receipt of benefits, so no one will starve Pinkbow, besides im nice the size i am. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/19/2009 1:16:45 PM | | Yes definittely. If you want to work, you will find work. It's about having a bit of pride rather than leeching off the government or anyone else. Having high morales is wonderful - but it doesn't pay the bills. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/19/2009 1:27:06 PM |
Yes definittely. If you want to work, you will find work
So why is the unemployed figures tipped to hit 3 million by Christmas? Thousands of people are being made redundant week after week, but if people want to work they will find it?
That's why you get thousands of people chasing 20 job vacancies? Leeching off the Govt?
I'm not out of work or signing on because I have high morals, I'm signing on because I want to keep a roof over my head in the very short term.
I hope the view is really good from the ivory tower some people seem to be sitting on.
This recession is hitting a lot of people, it's time some people got a grip. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/19/2009 1:56:21 PM |
Yes definittely. If you want to work, you will find work. It's about having a bit of pride rather than leeching off the government or anyone else. Having high morales is wonderful - but it doesn't pay the bills.
The UK currently has the highest unemployment rate for young people in about 20 years (I can't remember the exact figures but if anyone has watched the news recently they'd realise that). Do you think they can all find work?
I do have pride, but I'm still signing on. Last year, I signed on for 4 weeks, this year I've signed-on for 2 mths. For the first time in 20 years. Hardly leeching is it? I've paid a huge amount in tax and NI for years as when I was working I was very well-paid, reason I'm finding it more difficult now to get a job is because of the recession and because I spent a year looking after my terminally ill mother, it's a bit hard explaining the gap in my CV when others don't have it there.
And I have never leeched off others. It's my life, I'm responsible for it, and if that means spending a few months doing voluntary work or looking for the right job so be it, I'll happily claim benefits until I'm there.
The government may have paid me carer's allowance for a year, but I saved them a fortune in meals on wheels and social service visits by looking after someone. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/19/2009 2:05:20 PM |
I'm not in any ivory tower, I work relentlessly and will continue to do so rather than take benefits.
Well that's commendable, I've rarely been out of work in a very long time but I ended up suffering from depression due to my working conditions which could have been sorted out but weren't. Not a situation I wanted to be in and I'm still signed off by my GP at this point in time.
I'd rather be in the job I left than signing on and that is fact, because my income has dropped over a grand a month. But there are times where your working relationship with your employer breaks down and there is nothing you can do to sort it because the other party do not give a toss.
I'd never judge nor condemn anyone for signing on, because until I knew their exact situation I wouldn't be able to comment.
I know several people who have been made redundant this year and more whose businesses are suffering, even someone I know who has a very affluent lifestyle, his business is slow because of the economic downturn.
If people lost their jobs or their businesses fell apart and they had to sign on to keep a roof over their heads, I think most people would do it. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/19/2009 6:23:03 PM |
My question is would you do any job even if you were overqualified to do it rather than be unemployed or would you rather wait for the right job to come along?
Probably, apart from the very icky ones but for a limited time. I was a student and did a summer job as a bin man which wasn't too bad once you'd master some techniques. A mate had a job bagging amputated limbs prior to incineration. Yet another drove hospital ambulance collecting deceased for delivery to the morgue. I wouldn't want to work in slaughtering/meat processing though, anything with much killing blood and guts etc. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/19/2009 9:47:23 PM |
There are people with an awful lot of time on their hands posting on this forum who are unemployed and say they would rather do voluntary work. If this is the case why are the forums so busy? shouldn't all these moralistic people be out doing such work?
Your spot on with everything you said, but its much easier to say yes now, but if by any chance you losted you jobs, I better your answer would turn to No.
I am a little puzzle why some people think the "unemployed" people, just watch tv all day.
Just to change the subject, I know its half term for the kids, but why when its sunny the town centre is so busy | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/20/2009 1:20:14 AM | Some interesting replies. I can retire next year but I know that I will carry on working because Im not the sort of person to be inactive for long. I have two jobs and although I will probably reduce my hours I know I couldnt be at home all day long plus the fact I enjoy my work.
I would do most things if I was capable of doing them should I lose my job. I like to earn my own money - being independent is really important to me. | |
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| Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted: 8/20/2009 11:15:25 AM | Yes I would and theres no reason why anyone shouldnt.
If your paid shit, then government top it up, with working tax credits, so there is no excuse apart from being bone idle | |
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