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Posted: 10/31/2009 10:15:07 PM |
The ingredients of the vaccine ARE tested, because they are the same as is found in other vaccines. Ultimately however, pandemic vaccine has been put through the same testing as any other influenza vaccine.
Not the increased dosage on the additives. Two weeks of testing something new isn't testing, its called reassuring them its okay. | |
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Posted: 10/31/2009 10:33:26 PM | So the dosages have been increased now? What evidence do you have of that? Have they placed other things in the vaccine these last few weeks without informing the public?????
What other things have the evil doers done? Probably thicken the serum to make injection more difficult? | |
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Posted: 10/31/2009 10:35:07 PM |
If my logic seems cryptic,
It's not cryptic, it's flawed.
Military members are taxpayers too, you can't differentiate.
But the public DOES, and it is in fact the public which is MORE at risk, and that's TWO strikes against your reasoning.
Broken information on the H1N1 vaccine combined with acclimating hysteria is likely to kill people. Broken information such as health professionals saying its perfectly fine to get both the seasonal flu vaccine and H1N1 vaccine at the same time.
If by "broken", you mean "contradictory", I would tend to agree. The biggest problem is likely to be people avoiding vaccination, leading to increased illness and death. The principle cause of this will actually be fear-mongering and paranoia about vaccines...such as the relatively mild version YOU have also presented. The fact that medical professionals don't all agree certainly doesn't help, but that's the unfortunate nature of science.
I don't see why both vaccines couldn't be used at the same time. This is standard procedure with, for example, MMR [Mumps, Measles, Rubella]. The only codicil I would add is that no more than one vaccine should contain adjuvants or preservatives, since the effects of these compounds are based on a single dose.
Another is of some schools doing vaccinations, which some kids would have to get up to four shots at the same time depending on age and if they have ever been vaccinated before.
The evidence now indicates that only a single dose is required in children, as their immune systems tend to respond strongly.
Again, another is not taking into account of mixing different brands of vaccine when vaccinating people with the seasonal flu and H1N1 vaccine at the same time.
Shouldn't matter. Every doctor and pharmacist is trained in "drug" interactions. Regardless of "brand", the ingredients will be known and largely similar or identical. The same producer will produce different versions of the same vaccine [nasal, non-adjuvenated, adjuvenated], as well as other vaccines. Multiple manufacturers may actually produce exactly the same vaccine under license. What interaction "issues" there might be will have thousands of medical professionals pointing them out as soon as the formulations cross their desks.
All of these result in the vaccine not doing what it is designed to do and/or unknown complications.
Supposition not supported or borne out by evidence. | |
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Posted: 10/31/2009 11:43:43 PM | So much needless tripe.
Look, its a fact that the amount of adjuvants per part have been increased. The reason for the increase is that is the only way the manufacturers could mass produce so many vaccines in such a short amount of time. To say the H1N1 vaccine was manufactured the same as others obscures this simple fact.
Go get five H1N1 shots in your arm at the same time. That is the simplest way to look at it, though obviously an exaggeration to get the point across. More is not always better, which the side-effects are unknown.
Thats why its called an experimental vaccine. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2009 1:17:28 AM |
The biggest problem is likely to be people avoiding vaccination, leading to increased illness and death. The principle cause of this will actually be fear-mongering and paranoia about vaccines...such as the relatively mild version YOU have also presented. The fact that medical professionals don't all agree certainly doesn't help, but that's the unfortunate nature of science.
I agree with these statements. I would also take it a giant step further and suggest that along with the avoidance of vaccines we could add 'holistic medicines' and a slew of other factors present today that indicate humanity is facing relatively new evolutionary pressures. By choosing to not be vaccinated against such things as H1N1 influenza, a person not only needlessly risks their own life - thereby increasing the death toll - they are also risking the lives of minors under their control - further increasing the death toll.
If there is such a thing as an 'intelligence' gene, it would be evolutionary advantageous to possess that gene in this day and age. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2009 6:04:18 AM | Naissance - read this article
http://www.google.ca/search?q=h1n1+vaccination+adjuvants+increased&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
This is what it has to say about adjuvants:
" What's the fuss about adjuvants?
Adjuvants act as boosters: they increase immune-system response to the vaccine, and appear to offer some protection against virus mutation. They also permit the manufacture of more vaccine, more quickly. The adjuvant being used in Canada includes water, fish oil and vitamin E. The vaccine offered this pastweek in Canada was adjuvanted. The fuss is because the adjuvant hasn't previously been approved for use in flu vaccines in Canada, although adjuvants are used in many common vaccines. This adjuvant has been tested in 45,000 people around the world, says Butler-Jones, and health authorities are confident of its safety. "
Also when I googled, I could not find any reference to the military not receiving the vaccine. Could you post that reference for us? I found this one that states the opposite
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/swineflu/news/sep0209military.html
This article indicates that testing in US started over 2 months ago, not 2 weeks as you stated:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/160958.php
As I asked a previous poster, if you want us to believe and agree with your opinions, please back them up with facts | |
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Posted: 11/1/2009 8:00:14 AM | | On the news the other day, someone mentioned more than 700,000 injections of adjuvanted H1N1 in Europe...and not a single adverse reaction. I'm sorry, I don't have a link. But interesting. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2009 9:28:22 AM | Well, I just had my shot, along with my two adult daughters, my two grand-children and my son-in-law. My place of employment, The Ottawa Hospital, was offering a free vaccine to all their employees and their families (immediate and extended).
I've been reading this thread with interest since the beginning and followed through the many links provided (thank you everyone) and read many more articles on my own.
The decision to get my grand-daughter (15, and the only minor child under my care) vaccinated came after I asked myself which decision I could live with and the decision was made for me. I understand and am fully aware of the risks and the controversy surrounding the vaccine but ultimately, I know that I could never have forgiven myself if my grand-daughter had caught and god forbid died from this.
And if (IF) any one of us should be amongst the unlucky few who suffer from complications, well, at least I did what I thought was best at the time and that's all anyone can do.
Thanks again guys!
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Posted: 11/1/2009 10:48:19 AM | I'm not asking anyone to agree or disagree with my opinion. I'm presenting simple facts.
Fact: There is no research to prove that increasing adjvants per part is healthy and there is no research to prove that it is unhealthy. There has been only about a two week trial run on the vaccine with its increased ajvants per part. Thats why I said, two weeks of testing is not testing, its called reassuring.
Fact: That link you provided about the military getting vaccinated is false, because its out-dated. The military has only gotten the seasonal flu vaccine about three weeks ago, which the nasal-based vaccine for the seasonal flu is the one that was issued, unless you are over a certain age or have a pregnant wife that the seasonal flu can potentially be transferred to from the live virus in the nasal-based vaccine. Because the 21 day wait period, vaccination for H1N1 in the military is not expected until about early to mid-November.
Fact: The military has not been vaccinated against H1N1 yet, if you want proof then go ask someone in the military. Military health workers don't even know when supply of the H1N1 vaccine is coming in.
Hypothesis: As how treatment for the seasonal flu was received, most likely the military will get the nasal-based H1N1 vaccine or no vaccine if nothing was stockpiled before the shortage. It is unlikely they will receive the shot-based H1N1 vaccine, which contains the increased in adjuvants per part. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2009 3:14:56 PM | Naissance,
I was responding to your statement in a previous post “The military will most likely end up only getting the nasal-based vaccine for H1N1 or not being vaccinated at all. With how the shortages are going, this further seems like what will end up happening.”
You are right with your more recent post, though; I found this article which indicates that the military will be vaccinated this week
http://www.defencetalk.com/h1n1-vaccine-to-arrive-in-november-22730/
If you read further, it is a very pro vaccination article
Could you please supply proof for your claims regarding the adjuvants? I would like to be able to read the information that you have since I have been unable find any myself.
I find it interesting that your main objection to the vaccine is the adjuvants. But there are no adjuvants in your vaccine. Proof?
From 2 weeks ago an article stating that the adjuvants are not being used in US vaccines
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm
Will the 2009 H1N1 vaccines that are currently recommended contain adjuvants?
No. According to current federal plans, only unadjuvanted vaccines will be used in the United States during the 2009 flu season. This includes all of the 2009 H1N1 and seasonal influenza vaccines that will be available for children and adults in both the injectable and nasal spray formulations. None of these influenza vaccines will contain adjuvants.
And another article, more recent
http://www.healthnewsdigest.com/news/contributing%20columnist0/Meeting_The_Challenge_Of_H1N1_Vaccine_Production.shtml
No doubt, the voices of anti-vaccination activists, some of whom have absolutely no background in health care, and others who are not aware of the plain facts, served to gum up the works, as well. For example, vaccine opponents have expressed concerns about the safety of adjuvants—ingredients used to boost the immune response a vaccine generates. While adjuvants will be used in many H1N1 shots outside the U.S., they aren't being used in the U.S. vaccine. In any case, manufacturers and health officials note that adjuvants have been studied extensively and are safe.
I am Canadian and I did have the shot with the adjuvant - which actually makes the vaccine more effective. Adjuvants are compounds added to vaccines that stimulate the immune response.
As for the rest of your concern - the rest of the vaccine itself
http://www.fitnesstipsforlife.com/is-the-h1n1-vaccine-safe.html
“For H1N1 a further problem was posed this is a new vaccine, so how can you be sure it is safe? Well, flu vaccines are new every year. The technology used to make them has been proven to work and to be safe, so there is no need to validate each individual vaccine. Remember that a new flu vaccine is made every year containing the strains most likely to cause disease that year.” | |
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Posted: 11/1/2009 11:24:26 PM | Dr Marc Girard: 'The risks and efficacy of vaccines--'the vaccine could very well cause 60,000 deaths in France alone
(this is a very informative article discussing different drug co's H1N1 vaccines as well as adjuvants and links to research on squalene and thimerosal):
www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/2079-swine-flu-the-risks-and-efficacy-0f-vaccines
PS EPuppy-, this article also mentions the cancerous animal cells in the vaccine which the link you posted earlier was about | |
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Posted: 11/2/2009 6:12:06 AM |
Dr Marc Girard: 'The risks and efficacy of vaccines--'the vaccine could very well cause 60,000 deaths in France alone
It "could very well" make 'em sprout wings and lay eggs. Come back to us when it actually DOES. From last I heard, thousands of vaccines were already administered in Europe and not one single complication.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 11:10:33 AM | 'not one single complication'-umm do your research, there HAVE been complications reported so far, which doesn't surprise, since the FDA has not previously licensed the use of squalene before in ANY vaccine, tho, as we know, this one has been fasttracked. erven as far back as the 1970's Dr Carl M Pearson's research at UCLA has shown that injecting oils is bad science:
Whitehouse MW, Orr KJ, Beck FW, Pearson CM, Freund's adjuvants:relationship of arthrogenicity and adjuvanticity in rats to vehicle composition, Immunology, 1974 Aug;27(2):pg 319
Beck FW, Whitehouse MW, PearsonCM, Improvements for consistently inducing experimental allergic encephalomyelitis (EAE) in rats I. Without using mycobacterium II. Inoculating encephalitogen into the ear, proceedings of the Society for Experimental Biology and Medicine, 1976 March;15(3):pgs.615-622 | |
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Posted: 11/2/2009 11:21:03 AM | Any word yet on the plague developing in the Ukraine? That's the one to worry about!
H1N1 is nothing but a marketing gimmick for cheaply made Glaxxo vaccine. The superior Baxter vaccine was too expensive for the useless eaters to get; the people in Germany were not impressed. | |
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:38:38 PM | Somehow, I still find it difficult to understand how humans as a species, cannot survive without man-made chemical inputs for things like flu viruses. It reminds me of the woman who once noted, "you're saying that the only reason I have a headache is because I have an aspirin deficiency?". Or, the only way we can have food is because it's not suffering from a pesticide deficiency. We have had some successes in the past in our manipulations but it's all been a short-term experiment thus far. As we've seen with the anti-biotic experiment and raging resistance like MRSA, time will tell if our vaccination experiment has long term benefits or undermines the immune system of our species.
The 1976 vaccine debacle and GWS are two warning shots over our bow that something can go horribly wrong. Tamaflu resistance grew from 12% last year to 100% with this year's H1N1 virus. It's quite possible that over time, no vaccine will work on a mutated virus and our immune systems would be so compromised by under-tested vaccines, that the mother of pandemics will severely thin our herd.
Humans are already accumulating more toxins in our bodies than ever thought possible. Adding more toxic load via vaccines, and hyper-charging the immune system to attack even our beneficial present levels of natural squalene, seems counter-intuitive for long term herd health. Below are some of the toxins contained in the various vaccines offered this year.
http://preventdisease.com/news/09/103009_vaccine_sterility_immunotoxicity_neurotoxicity.shtml
Novartis Focetria Adjuvanted H1N1
Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Polysorbate 80: Sterilie Agent
Potassium Chloride: Neurotoxin
Squalene: Neurotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
Novartis H1N1 Monovalent Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Beta-Propiolactone: Carcinogen
Polymyxin: Neurotoxin
Neomycin: Immunotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
GlaxoSmithKline Arepanrix Adjuvanted
H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Formaldehyde : Carcinogen
Polysorbate 80: Sterilie Agent
Sodium Deoxycholate: Immunotoxin
Squalene: Neurotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
GlaxoSmithKline Pandemrix Adjuvanted
H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Octoxynol 10: Immunotoxin
Polysorbate 80: Sterilie Agent
Potassium Chloride: Neurotoxin
Sodium Deoxycholate: Immunotoxin
Squalene: Neurotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
GlaxoSmithKline Fluarix 2009-2010
Formula Ingredients/Toxicity
Formaldehyde : Carcinogen
Octoxynol 10: Immunotoxin
Polysorbate 80: Sterilie Agent
Sodium Deoxycholate: Immunotoxin
Sanofi-Pasteur H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Formaldehyde : Carcinogen
Polyethylene Glycol: Systemic Toxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
MedImmune H1N1 Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Monosodium Glutamate: Neurotoxin
Gentamicin Sulfate: Nephrotoxic
Monobasic Potassium Phosphate: Immunotoxin
FLUARIX 2009 Latest Package Insert Ingredients/Toxicity
Formaldehyde : Carcinogen
Gentamicin Sulfate: Nephrotoxic
Polysorbate 80: Sterilie Agent
Sodium Deoxycholate: Immunotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
CSL PANVAX H1N1 Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Beta-Propiolactone: Carcinogen
Neomycin: Immunotoxin
Sodium Taurodeoxycholate: Carcinogen/Immunotoxin
Polymyxin: Neurotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
CSL Afluria H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Beta-Propiolactone: Carcinogen
Neomycin Sulfate: Immunotoxin
Polymyxin B: Neurotoxin
Potassium Chloride: Neurotoxin
Sodium Taurodeoxycholate: Carcinogen/Immunotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
Note: An additional CSL H1N1 Vaccine is Undergoing Trials with AS03 Adjuvant which contains Squalene.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:46:10 PM | CBS reports CDC deception on actual proven number of swine flu cases:
www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intelligence-Examiner~y2009m10d28-Swine-Flu-Cases-CBS-reports-CDC-deception-on-swine-flu-cases
Note-capitalized words and ~before the 'y' to make sure you get link right, ot copy/paste link
this might interest SG more than reading medical journal articles. Aah-to each their own | |
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:56:53 PM |
http://preventdisease.com
Wow, and people accuse mainstream media of being sensationalist.
Looked a little deeper and what did I find? An article about IBM's alleged "foreknowledge" of an impending pandemic from 2006. Except...that's not actually what the document says.
The document is from IBM's pandemic plan and it stated as an "assumption" that there would be a 100 per cent chance of pandemic in five years. Now, anyone who knows anything about...well...anything would know that in 2006 there was a lot of discussion around pandemic and business continuity. I know because I was covering the story for one of the magazines I worked for.
Now, the reason for the pandemic planning was pretty much because business continuity was a common subject of discussion anyway. People were wondering what could affect business continuity, big and small. Quite a few health care professionals were expressing concern that we have yet to actually see a major pandemic. The last big one was 1918. Like the next asteroid or the next big solar flare, we were "due." And it caught on.
Yes, I know what you're going to say. "Perhaps they were raising the alarm because they were in on 'it.'" You can say that...and you would have to be a moron to do so. That would pretty much be along the same lines as every other Illuminati/Masons/Space aliens conspiracy that's out there. As highly speculative as it is low on anything even laughably referred to as "proof."
So today's lesson is...check your sources. And try to get more than just "one side." I notice a lot of you anti-vaccine types are expecting us who support vaccination to have an open mind and check out your facts. However, why don't you actually check out places like the CDC, public health, etc.? Do you only want to hear from people who agree with your own point of view. Or are they "them?" | |
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Posted: 11/2/2009 1:01:57 PM | So Wiyan, did you only read the Examiner article or did you actually read the CBS story. I pulled this from it.
The ramifications of this finding are important. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Britain's National Health Service, once you have H1N1 flu, you're immune from future outbreaks of the same virus. Those who think they've had H1N1 flu -- but haven't -- might mistakenly presume they're immune. As a result, they might skip taking a vaccine that could help them, and expose themselves to others with H1N1 flu under the mistaken belief they won't catch it. Parents might not keep sick children home from school, mistakenly believing they've already had H1N1 flu.
You do realize that the Examiner has a "exo-politics" columnist, don't you? You know...tin foil hats, alien abductions, etc.?
Aah-to each their own  | |
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| New Swine Flu vaccine is dangerous business
Posted: 11/2/2009 4:50:12 PM | based on CDC and Canadian Ministry of Health number crunching and assuring the public of the 'safety' of H1N1 vax DESPITE LONG TERM PLACEBO CONTOLLED CLINICAL STUDIES PROVING SAFETY AND EFFICACY OF H1N1 vaccines, look who it appears is the one spreading your 'conspiracy theories and 'propaganda' wholly unsupported and unsubstantiated by science, which is why more and more medical professionals as reported in news around the world are smart enough to refuse the vaccine.
Great post Earth Puppy! | |
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| New Swine Flu vaccine is dangerous business
Posted: 11/2/2009 7:39:11 PM |
Novartis Focetria Adjuvanted H1N1
Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Polysorbate 80: Sterilie Agent
Potassium Chloride: Neurotoxin
Squalene: Neurotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
Novartis H1N1 Monovalent Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Beta-Propiolactone: Carcinogen
Polymyxin: Neurotoxin
Neomycin: Immunotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
GlaxoSmithKline Arepanrix Adjuvanted
H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Formaldehyde : Carcinogen
Polysorbate 80: Sterilie Agent
Sodium Deoxycholate: Immunotoxin
Squalene: Neurotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
GlaxoSmithKline Pandemrix Adjuvanted
H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Octoxynol 10: Immunotoxin
Polysorbate 80: Sterilie Agent
Potassium Chloride: Neurotoxin
Sodium Deoxycholate: Immunotoxin
Squalene: Neurotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
GlaxoSmithKline Fluarix 2009-2010
Formula Ingredients/Toxicity
Formaldehyde : Carcinogen
Octoxynol 10: Immunotoxin
Polysorbate 80: Sterilie Agent
Sodium Deoxycholate: Immunotoxin
Sanofi-Pasteur H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Formaldehyde : Carcinogen
Polyethylene Glycol: Systemic Toxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
MedImmune H1N1 Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Monosodium Glutamate: Neurotoxin
Gentamicin Sulfate: Nephrotoxic
Monobasic Potassium Phosphate: Immunotoxin
FLUARIX 2009 Latest Package Insert Ingredients/Toxicity
Formaldehyde : Carcinogen
Gentamicin Sulfate: Nephrotoxic
Polysorbate 80: Sterilie Agent
Sodium Deoxycholate: Immunotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
CSL PANVAX H1N1 Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Beta-Propiolactone: Carcinogen
Neomycin: Immunotoxin
Sodium Taurodeoxycholate: Carcinogen/Immunotoxin
Polymyxin: Neurotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
CSL Afluria H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Ingredients/Toxicity
Beta-Propiolactone: Carcinogen
Neomycin Sulfate: Immunotoxin
Polymyxin B: Neurotoxin
Potassium Chloride: Neurotoxin
Sodium Taurodeoxycholate: Carcinogen/Immunotoxin
Thimerosal: Neurotoxin
OMG! MY EYES! MY EYES!
In my 20 some odd years as a chemical engineer, I have never witnessed so much BS written on one page. It would take me a day or so of typing to discredit each one so I'll just take a sampling. Everyone- feel free to google up any one and find out out what they really are- LOL!
All quotes are from Wikipedia
Potassium chloride
"Potassium is vital in the human body and oral potassium chloride is the common means to replenish it, although it can also be diluted and given intravenously (of course, in concentrations much lower than those used in executions). It can be used as a salt substitute for food, but due to its weak, bitter, unsalty flavor, it is usually mixed with regular salt (sodium chloride), for this purpose to improve the taste (for example, in Morton Lite Salt[5]). Medically it is used in the treatment of hypokalemia and associated conditions, for digitalis poisoning, and as an electrolyte replenisher.[6] Brand names include K-Dur, Klor-Con, Micro-K, and Kaon Cl. Side effects can include gastrointestinal discomfort including nausea and vomiting, diarrhea and bleeding of the digestive tract. Overdoses cause hyperkalemia which can lead to paresthesia, cardiac conduction blocks, fibrillation, arrhythmias, and sclerosis.[7]
Dr.Jack Kevorkian's thanatron machine injected a lethal dose of potassium chloride into the patient, which caused the heart to stop functioning, after a sodium thiopental-induced coma was achieved. A similar device, the German 'Perfusor', also uses potassium chloride as a suicide aid.[8]"
"Orally, KCl is toxic in excess; the LD50 is around 2500 mg/kg (meaning that a lethal dose for 50% of people weighing 75 kg (165 lb) is about 190 g (6.7 ounces), or about 38 teaspoons). Intravenously this is reduced to just over 100 mg/kg, but of more concern are its severe effects on the cardiac muscles; high doses can cause cardiac arrest and rapid death, ergo its aforementioned use as the third and final drug delivered in the lethal injection process."
Then there's Monosodium Glutamate- commonly known as MSG - that stuff you slather all over your Chinese food- lots in soya sauce. It's also found in tons of other foods.
"Pre-prepared stocks often known as stock cubes or bouillon cubes.
Condiments such as barbecue sauce and salad dressing.
Canned, frozen, or dried prepared food
Common snack foods such as flavoured jerky, flavoured potato chips and flavoured tortilla chips.
Seasoning mixtures "
It has had concerns. Most very minor.
"Health concerns
Main article: Glutamic acid (flavor)#Research into health effects
MSG as a food ingredient has been the subject of health studies. A report from the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB) compiled in 1995 on behalf of the FDA concluded that MSG was safe for most people when "eaten at customary levels." However, it also said that, based on anecdotal reports, some people may have an MSG intolerance which causes "MSG symptom complex" — commonly referred to as Chinese restaurant syndrome — and/or a worsening of asthmatic symptoms.[11] Subsequent research found that while large doses of MSG given without food may elicit more symptoms than a placebo in individuals who believe that they react adversely to MSG, the frequency of the responses was low and the responses reported were inconsistent, not reproducible, and were not observed when MSG was given with food.[12] While many people believe that MSG is the cause of these symptoms, a statistical association has not been demonstrated under controlled conditions, even in studies with people who were convinced that they were sensitive to it.[12][13][14][15] Adequately controlling for experimental bias includes a placebo-controlled double-blinded experimental design and the application in capsules because of the strong and unique after-taste of glutamates.[13]
Polymyxin- powerful antibiotic found in Polysporin
Neomycin- powerful antibiotic found in Neosporin
Both can cause problems- so don't eat a whole tube at one sitting.
If you want to know more- just take the items and google them up. I did and
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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:21:09 PM | I have a couple questions for the Canadians:
1. (to a healthcare worker there, or active politician) as NSLass and others have noted, you are short of vaccines-but, didn't the Can gov't already prepay the vax? Or is this really explained by the egg development story (taking longer to produce, and all prepaid orders for vax will indeed be filled??). It seems the transfer of funds from the gov't to the drug co's has already taken place, right? (or is it a pay as you recieve supplies scenario)
2. (To anyone intimately involved with olympic athlete issues-trainers maybe?) How come if there is such a huge pandemic in Canada right now, the B.C. gov't is openly declaring a pandemic all day long in the news and yet NOT cancelling the winter olympics? Aren't they concerned about negative pr, or, people getting sick? Thanks for any knowledge shared-Wiyan | |
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Posted: 11/2/2009 11:16:16 PM | Full delivery was not intended or expected immediately. The large number of people wanting the vaccination was unexpected, resulting in the first batch of vaccine being nearly used up before the next was available. It was simply a case of demand exceeding supply. Despite that, in the few days it was available, an estimated 400000 Albertans were vaccinated. The next round will be restricted to high-risk categories.
The Olympics are something of a non-issue at this point. Vaccinations are available worldwide. In the nearly four months between now and then, pandemic 2009 will likely be less of a threat than seasonal flu, due to a higher rate of vaccination and a higher rate of infection. Herd immunity will play a significant role. If it was considered a threat, then many OTHER things would already be cancelled - all concerts, all sporting events, church services, school - anything which puts groups of people in confined spaces. When the virus first appeared and nothing was known of its virulence or spread pattern, that was the [appropriate] response. Now that the fall wave is here and more is known, education, hygeine, and vaccination seem more than sufficient. Additionally, the Olympics are run in part by an international committee. If the IOC felt there were a problem, THEY would cancel it. For BC or Canada to unilaterally cancel would be worse PR as well as an unjustified economic disaster [large investment, no return]. It's still up to the various countries and individuals to decide whether they participate or attend. I haven't heard of any significant talk of this, which suggests that people worldwide aren't worried about attending [for a variety of reasons].
Sorry, no inside knowledge, just public knowledge and logic. | |
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