| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 9/24/2009 5:54:49 PM | WELL WELL WELL i have always been of the opinion that any kind of sexual activity has been a deal breaker gee even Eve enticed Adam with an apple
everyone should remember there are only 2 rules rhat control this situation
(1) if the deal is a good one and is fair go for it
(2) if there is no alternative reconsider rule (1)
AND FOR GODS AND YOUR SAKE DONT BECOME TUNG TIED WITH IT | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 9/24/2009 6:34:38 PM |
I know what ya mean. The damn gown gets in the way Playing doctors and nurses... can be fun.. And obviously the design of hospital gowns.. well.. what..... was that intent?.. which way the gown faces... makes intent clear......
But the Nitrous is a hoot I've never actually tried that stuff...... ever....sounds interesting...
and the bed is electric! that's the best thing about sex with old people.....//.. the orthepedic bed.... and it's perfect .......for star fishes... cause there is no movement involved at all.. just the bed remote...is a .. added bonus..(which bed position to use tonight?.)
Wow! I never used to watch much TV, but now... interactive entertainment is the way to go!
Now this is tricky.. if your new to this....beware....... I farked up.. cause I was watching a comedy... so once the deep belly laugh set in...... the inevidable Q .....of.. are you watching tv?.....(slightly acussing voice) should never be answered.. with..no... its just tickling... a man without confidence in his manhood.. can really...really.. take that the wrong way... Also.. donot sing along with the commercials.. it's a dead giveaway...
Also./.. Don't watch shows that involve surgery.. like RBA or transplants,..... the ewwwwwwwww.. thats gross... ohh my gawd.... that's a liver..... look........... its dead but its still pumping.... ohh my gawd..... im going to throw up... are'nt exactly romantic...
Tomorrow I'll return 'Home Dentistry for Beginners' to the library and pick up part 2 of the esoteric masterpiece 'How to Breathe Through Your Ears - Or, Failing That, Die Quietly' Well... actually I would reccomend... "Is your lover a starfish?" {I wrote it..} It has some great chapters... like.. "HOw to tell if your starfish is alive or dead.. during love making'(even when poking it).. HOw to hypnotise your starfish.. so it will move during sex.. and same chapter and think it's a porn star... How.. to .. take a pulse.... so ... You don't have to disturb ,,,your starfish..during love making... 'Tv show's that.. will make your starfish vibrate... interact.. without actually knowing they are"... during love making.. can your starfish tell the difference between sex and no sex?.. can you? (with the tv off)..
After that I'm set! With my incredibly long tongue, no teeth, and wheezing through my ears no girl will be able to resist my suavely mumbled invitations...
Just go to a star wars convention... the chicks with the darth vader..fantasies..will loveeeeee..you... and the gown and mask.. are a must..... May The force Be with you..... peace | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 9/27/2009 1:26:33 AM | Just thought I should post on the odd chance I may be banned before the day is out  | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 9/27/2009 2:13:40 AM |
Just thought I should post on the odd chance I may be banned before the day is out. Odd chances are often the best so I'm not sure that's ^^^ one. And no chance to get even for at least another page...
Just take a deep breath & hope for a good outcome? | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 9/27/2009 4:33:56 AM | Just take a deep breath & hope for a good outcome?
This is not a good idea, according to Nick's extensive research in this area and from what I understand from his kindly and educational posts #142 & 147.
However, I have to agree with you in essence because, oddly enough, in my experience, a deep breath and hoping it'll all be over soon is the only way to deal with it. Mind you, if there's something interesting to watch on tv, it's all good.
PS: Nice to see you again, lovely Oh-my. | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 9/27/2009 9:07:30 AM | I gotta mention something about an experience here...
I accidently let a fart slip out one night as my now ex was traveling down...total mistake. Now, I'd been down to her bits quite a few times, and the first time she was going to return the favour - I made a little accident. Don't tell me "you can keep it in" cause this one really didn't want to - plus you can't turn around and say "oh, I'll be right back" - totally ruins the mood...well I guess the fart did too. Anywho - she never attempted to head south again, and neither did I. (oh and she isn't my ex from that experience...heh - just another little mistake on the journey that is life)
But in the end - sure, its a dealbreaker. However, I'd never push the issue on either case.  | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/3/2009 3:31:26 PM |
I accidently let a fart slip out one night as my now ex was traveling down...total mistake Nothing like a fart to quieten a good thread  | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/3/2009 6:41:50 PM |
Nothing like a fart to quieten a good thread Pheeeww!.............think I'll come back when the air clears.
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| Elephants are pachyderms. Posted: 10/3/2009 10:42:10 PM |
I accidently let a fart slip out one night as my now ex was traveling down...total mistake And terrible timing.
Nothing like a fart to quieten a good thread Funny that... Maybe it was a bit like the 'Elephant in the Room' scenario? Except there wasn't an elephant in the room at all, just the stench as if one had been quite recently... and no one wanted to mention it. ( * ) ) | | | \ Butt, speaking of elephants... is oral a dealbreaker? pfft!
Whether sweetly spoken or energetically expressed, who doesn't enjoy a luscious descriptive passage? Like, totally dripping with meaning? Or indeed, a long paragraph of throbbing purple prose?
Debate is more robust than conversation, no doubt. I guess it's always wise to really get a feel for the objections to ones point of view? But after that... yeehaw! Just hammer the opposition hahahaa With a couple of heavily loaded ovoidly circular sentences forming an entirely rigid opinion... pound away at the main points, repeatedly drive home the advantage, and generally... overcome!
Mutual understanding may occur, but just as often one or the other is well and truly spent and left twitching on the floor. But hey, no hard feelings, a good debater soon recovers and is ready to go again.
Conversation is slightly different to debate though? It's more subtle, it's about finesse, and cooperation. Spreading out the argument, giving attention to each side, and examining the points of divergence, but of course exploring the middle ground that lies between. Because it's from there the bud of compromise will emerge and the opportunity to... progress? Will open. Conversation is leading ones partner with hints, fine implications, and gentle nudges, so that both - ideally - reach the same conclusion and achieve joint insight, together. Like, si mul taneously!
Because much of the pleasure in persuasive discourse, conversation, debate, or any oral interchange, is timing? | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/4/2009 1:39:29 AM | I've always thought relationships were more then just sex and thought good sex was an extension of the love you feel for your partner, dumping someone just because they wont go down on you is, in my opinion, a sad indication on modern relationships. | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/4/2009 4:09:57 AM | ^^^I could not agree more. Sex is an extension of the love you feel for your partner, so if you wont get your face down there you obviously dont love me enough and you are dumped.
Too easy! | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/4/2009 7:11:12 PM | Debate is more robust than conversation, no doubt.
Oh yes.. but conversations can evolve on many levels.. some casually and mutually pleasing..but end quickly.. although both seem happy..with a brief exchange.. they may never converse again..ships passing in the night.. some more indepth ..a meeting of minds and or souls.. stimulating, the senses..but not enough to orally stimulate more depth or interest...other than.. ocassionally.. once or twice a month..
and some more intimate..indepth.. penetrating every facet of your being.. some are much better at incorporating the whole being..involving the body language..response as well as the oral.. pleasure... sometimes no words are needed souls speaking to each other.. merely through presence..stimulating senses dormat to others.. a conversation.. as if both are conversing without words...
Debating.. is always interesting/intriguing.. although some opponents may leave one feeling quite bored.. whereas another.. Being familiar with their skills.. they're moves.. leaves one in a state of excited anticipation...knowing it will be completely enjoyable.. yet...knowing , suprises of new exchanges will emerge..equal..in such skills..both go head to head....with full confidence.. these type of mutual respect. debating sessions.. start with the opponents eyes meeting..the eyes ...searching each other for..their strenth/passion/understanding.. of the topic to be debated... their eyes..meet.. their chests swell..rise with the anticpated match of passion about to be exchanged... weighing each other up.. The topic is raised.... each major point.. is touched upon.. knowing.. each point has more indepth to come.. as it all unfolds..
sometimes it may appear like are fighting....as passions rise... heated exchanges.... to others it may appear like one is attacking the other.. the writhing.. the body language.. seemingly .. the blood pressure rising....even appear to be ... at opposite ends of each other...like no mutual unison could ever be reached.. where one may appear having the upper hand... or being on top.. yet just as swiftly as this position seems dominate... the opponent seemingly underneath... can turn it around.. and be again .... on top of the topic..
a good debater.. enjoys all the positions..knowing full well... their skills.. will eventually lead them to the position.. where when it is time for summary.. the hard ramming home of points.. quickly.. confidently...will ensure.... their.... satisfaction in expounding on the topic of focus.. it is coming to a closure and both mutually speed up.. their poistions.. eliciting last...energies..specific points are held firm... never waivering.. if the opponents.. are well matched... they eventually reach a mutual agreement in the climax..conceding..... common ground... sometimes debates go off topic..but, the skills.. the unexplored aspects.. can be just as enlightening and enjoyable..as the topic..itself.. and sometimes debates can just go on for hours.. both maybe moaning or grunting in frustration or pleasure..or seemingly out of this world ..feelings......disbelief or awe..... at the debate itself.. which can leave both at a loss for words.. so mere grunts suffice.... injected here and there.. but the act of debating is so mutually pleasurable.. they are prepared to agree in unison to take a break.. and wait for another topic.. to arise.. if mutually compatable.. this usually dosen't take too long.. ohh to find a ...well matched... debater..as opposed to casual conversations.. theyare farand few between and special when they come..along in life.. not met one for too long now... I think I miss debating.. damn I think I even need to just go out and have a conversation.. but not a casual one.. peace | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/5/2009 9:37:14 AM | | YOGA!!! That's it!!Why didn't I think of that.I'll start right away and then I should be right for another seven years.Thanks Suolmate..I was just about to cave!! | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/5/2009 6:18:45 PM | Saucy little post there Soulmate.
sometimes it may appear like are fighting....as passions rise... heated exchanges.... Yes, but whilst you do get it I am also reminded of those sad, silenced onlookers, seething with their own undercurrents of incurable envy, who just don't get it because they are not possessed of passion for anything themselves...who jump pathetically at the first chance to try to pit the one against the other for their own ends....but merely become the (rather large) butt of another round of jokes. Things can fester inside a person, for years, apparently ....and, gee, when a person becomes that bitter, oral would be best avoided...no amount of pineapple juice would mask that taste. | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/5/2009 8:13:05 PM | who jump pathetically at the first chance to try to pit the one against the other for their own ends.... Great point^^^^^ debating.... Ohhh but this is a great analogy...perhaps of a marriage?...a caring relationship...? a caring friendship even.. (feeling safe to oppose/express a view contrary to the other).. which realistically will occurr..over and over again.. so dealing with this..might indicate a persons ability to sustain a relationship?
Communication...is a learning (ongoing) skill.. between 2 people.. who if at the base/core like and respect each other....(if not.. then name calling/slinging matches..grudges ..ego hurt etc.. eventually destroy the core relationship.. or alienate both to perhaps a stance of mutual dislike?)
Yet.. in my opinion no 2 people will ever agree 100% on everything.. Whether that be a parent..to child.. a child to a parent.. a sibling.. a best friend.. an aquaintance...boyfriend..girlfriend... and yes marriage..
So yes when people have a conversation..or deabate a topic... seemingly at opposite ends of the spectrum... IT may appear to other/onlookers.. that they are arguing/fighting..disention.. etc...is abound but in reality.. they are exploring... challenging.. their own perceptions.. their own views.. and the process is geared towards... learning..enlightenment... and understanding...and only people with mutual respect...not let it.. effect their ego... ongoing drama(hold a grudge)...but enjoy the process of intellect/new thoughts... much like a human chess game.... a gentlemans game if you will where if debateing or opposing views... not seen as competitive..(or rather one has to be right.. therefore one is wrong)..(ego) but rather the thought invigorated..is very stimulating...mentally.. etc..and hopefully common ground.. agreement to disagree even can occur.. but not with egos...
(when this base/core of respect/intent is not there).. then it is purely a hard headed argument...
some can perceive this interaction as an argument.. rather than an exchange of intepretations/views... with at base... wanting the truth..on a topic.(if any truth can be exposed)
THe more comfy..... familiar you are with the intent of the person.. the more you feel safe in expressing your views.. knowing.. they won't be held against .. the person later.. as in a ego grudge.... revenge etc.. it actually shows a persons character.. in how they.. deal with.. opposing ...even passionate.. beliefs..thoughts etc..
but the 2 who do know that core respect... likeness.. for each other...they do not take it personally.. nor see it as an attack.. if communicated.. effectively the topic.. not the person..(hence why flame baiting.. personal slinging/ accusations... and my pet one.. labels... )are banned in a forum discussion group.. and why some people think a disagreement is discord/disention.. when its not..
recognising.. alllllllll the differences.. (and everyone is different in thoughts/experiences etc.. ) that exist..... is just reality.. how someone sees.. a debate... or perceives it.. or reacts.. is who they are....
thats why forums are great.. for over time.. you see the multifacets of everyone.. (if they post openly/honestly..) because everyone has different..sides..parts.. friends agree/disagree.. and still at base ..love/like /respect the other core in the person..
marriage..relationships.... need 2 characters willing to disagree on certain... topics.. without grudges...anger... revenge.. ego hurt etc.. to discuss.. respect.. disagree .. compromise?..common ground.. and get back to lovin/respctin.. once names are called or accusations hurled.. well .. you cant take disrepect back.. maybe humble the ego.. and forgive or ask forgiveness.. otherwise it will just build up.. over time and one day.. one walks away...
never confusing debating with arguing.. they are 2 very different communication processes.. and both expose the 2 true characters.. when heated/passionate.. and both expose.. how someone would be in a relationship/committed/compromise/communication.. no amount of oral sex.. will compensate.. for someones inability to.. debate/disagree..respectfully ... fairly.. or grudge holding...
so theres hope for everyone I guess? or not... I know I look for in a person.. core intent/character.. in whether to embark on .. even a friendship.. let alone a relationship... I mean seriously.. who in their 40's or older wants.. drama? with someone who's.. character.. shows grudges...bitterness... ... etc.. thats not love.. and no amount of oral or sex can replace that core stuff..
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/5/2009 9:17:36 PM |
^^^ Very well said. I agree. That was a mouthful and a half... the topic just got blown away, metaphorically speaking. | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/5/2009 10:20:12 PM | ^^^ It was very well said...but all this debating has left me pretty worn out. I don't think I'm in the mood anymore  | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/5/2009 10:51:02 PM |
...but all this debating has left me pretty worn out. Energy levels low? Feeling somewhat depleted? Maybe it's your protein intake? Are you getting enough? | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/5/2009 11:48:58 PM | | Deal breaker.No!!Not in the light of the connection I am committed to finding.I have chosen celebacy and have remained true to that commitment for the last seven years or so and I won't bore you with the motivation behind making that choice here.The desire for sex and intimacy is strong and the experience of oral,both given and received,definitely serves to heighten the sexual experience but when connection on a spiritual level is what your heart and soul desires most,the importance of receiving oral sex seems to pale into insignificance. I love to give and always will but not receiving ,in the light of that kind of connection ,will not alter the love and respect I feel for that person. | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/6/2009 1:17:07 AM |
Energy levels low? Feeling somewhat depleted? Aye a little out of odds and close to all-ordinary, nothing a nana-nap won't fix (no pun intended soulmate- I actually have a newborn grandson in the house)
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/6/2009 1:27:20 AM | I am an all or nothing kinda gal.
If you aren't going to tantalize the senses, in every sense of the word, something is lacking.
But hey, that's just me.
I enjoy the whole shabang ... so it would definitely be a deal breaker for me. | |
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| Oral...is it a dealbreaker? Posted: 10/6/2009 2:49:56 AM |
Energy levels low? Feeling somewhat depleted?
time for one of Captain Curd's Fish Milkshakes... | |
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