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Msg: 101 | |
| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles
Posted: 8/23/2009 8:14:14 PM |
Those who like the idea of being able to find a user's posts (or display theirs) should put their own history URL on their profile, ...who knows; it could catch on?
Yes, I do understand this is an option, but people (in general) are lazy. No one wants to (or will want to) copy and paste to get to a link.
That's fine for me, those too lazy to do a couple of key-commands and a click probably wouldn't read my stuff anyway - no loss. Strange as it may seem, when it comes to lazy people, ...I feel nothing but apathy towards them. 
There is also the browser folder option for keeping track of other's posts, just a couple of clicks, no sweat.
I believe IM went away, period -- pay or not.
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| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles
Posted: 8/23/2009 8:18:24 PM | when it comes to lazy people, ...I feel nothing but apathy towards them.
 Totally agree. But I'd still like to be able to hyperlink it. I assume there's a filter to make sure people only post POF urls, anyway, correct? ~wink | |
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Msg: 104 | |
| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles
Posted: 8/23/2009 8:29:37 PM |
clickable link?
As has been repeatedly pointed out in this thread - no
I assume there's a filter to make sure people only post POF urls, anyway, correct?
Yup, Admin's got a bot army that deletes scam/spam profiles, non-POF URLs are certainly a trigger. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2009 8:33:03 PM | late:
late: I know as a mod years ago you fielded the complaints from people about the posts showing. I have been here a few years also and seen my share also.
It has been one of the top "done to death" posts in this forum over the years. It was at least three or for threads a week at times.
Could be. I just searched on "profile forum" and got a page full since Jan 2009 and a bunch of those didnt apply. So thats a max of like three a month NOW. Not years ago. Not quite 3 a week like you remember occuring today. No way to really resesearch farther that I know of unless you can help other then just memory from years ago. Or other search options.
You mean to tell me that 3 people a month wanting a change to all our profiles (since jan 2009) that post in this forum get action when this thread has way more respondents that disagree with the chenge get ignored TODAY?
(long sigh...) OK I get it.... LOL!
Isnt whats posted TODAY by our forum users (the only ones really effected by the loss of the 5 forum posts on our profiles) what is most relevant to the situation?
It has JUST HAPPENED and you can easily see the results here by those effected.
I KNOW Markus ignores most user requests and does not respect the thoughts of the forums users in votes or poles for general changes to this site as we are a small minority of the overall site but really now... we are the ONLY ONES being effected really by this change to remove the last 5 forum posts and our thoughts should be considered.
We are only asking for an OPTION to display them or not which really would satisfy BOTH sides right?
We dont want them removed or saved just a user option as to what the members want on their own profiles. So ALL members have control.
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late™
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Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 107 | |
| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles
Posted: 8/23/2009 8:56:04 PM | Not quite 3 a week like you remember occuring today.
You're forgetting the fact that moderators delete the majority of the redundant threads (on this forum more than any other), 3 a week is being extremely conservative.
Isnt whats posted TODAY by our forum users (the only ones really effected by the loss of the 5 forum posts on our profiles) what is most relevant to the situation?
It depends on what you're trying to gauge. Certainly not in a comparison to a 4 year+ period of complaints, let's come back in 4 years+ and compare.
But, yes ...as it happened recently, the fact that it's on a few people's minds (without even considering what % of the user-base this represents), "TODAY" doesn't surprise me. Neither does all the baseless speculation flying around, or people's attempts to pile on complaints about unrelated features and issues.
Here's the second ever post concerning this feature:
late™
Love the new last 5 posts feature on profiles :)
Posted: 4/22/2005 8:38 PM
Excellent!!!!
(...almost makes up for the religion thang)
As I keep saying, I liked the feature too (except the glitches), I wasn't a fan of the then new religion option though, I still find it invasive, go figger?
We are only asking for an OPTION to display them or not which really would satisfy BOTH sides right?
And I'm trying to find/talk about options that work "today". Like I said before, while I disliked the glitches from the "last 5" filter, I was and am a proponent of a forum link on the profile page (aside from the one that's at the top of every page). Until anything changes, if ever ...I'll keep my history URL on my profile and be a proponent of it too.
Favorites are still there, just hidden from public view as to not adversely influence someone's opinion as to whether they should write to them or not.
...and none of the more practical aspects of this feature have been disabled. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2009 9:01:32 PM | 4real, I did a search on "forums post" a little while ago, too, but there were very few that were "specifically" targeted about forums posts on our profiles, and even less concerning people having issues about seeing them on another's profile. Most just said they wanted to hide them but didn't give very specific reasons. Most of the reasons, as have been supplied in here, seemed to be because they posted something stupid or embarrassing, so sheepishly didn't want others to see it. Awww....lol.
That, as opposed to the overwhelming feedback I've seen about simply seeing high favs counts on profiles and the negative impact it has. Heck, there's an active thread that is laced with references to profile favs counts right now? Go look through the last few pages if you don't believe me?
Top 5 things you hate seeing/reading in profiles...
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts12953998.aspx
But I agree with Late's fix. Just put the url for last 25 posts on your profile yourself, if that's what one wants. I just wish we could make it clickable.
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Msg: 109 | |
| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles
Posted: 8/23/2009 9:19:22 PM |
Go look through the last few pages if you don't believe me?
Aside from it being moot: To say that the sample method you use is flawed is being kind. You aren't factoring in deleted threads or the huge numbers of miss-titled threads or the various keywords other than "forums post". You can't see this?
I'm talking about years of seeing almost every single thread posted in this forum on a daily basis, you don't believe me? No problem, but at least have the decency to back your assertion that I'm mistaken or lying, ...with something plausible.
Top 5 things you hate seeing/reading in profiles...
Still a meaningless sample size compared to +/-10,000,000.
It was/is a very low percentage of the membership anyway.
Which renders the question of popularity moot.
I don't doubt that the minority will rally their support for a while (if history tells me anything about past rallies, the only thing it will produce is angst), some may even obsess over it. I won't
But, anybody will be able to view my last 25 by loading an URL into a browser. Then of course there's the trick I know from being a mod, ....to view an entire history using archives. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2009 9:31:08 PM | While I realize that we cannot hyperlink URL's in our profiles, even if limited to POF webpages, it is in some ways regrettable.
I have provided computer technical support to the general public for many years and it is not uncommon to encounter people who have no clue how to copy-n-paste, or worse yet, they are unaware of the purpose of the address bar of their web browser where they should paste the URL.
They only know how to find things by searching, and are totally unaware they can go directly to a website without searching for it.
Yes, the younger people who learned modern computer skills would be an exception to this shortcoming. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2009 9:43:10 PM |
but there were very few that were "specifically" targeted about forums posts on our profiles If that comment refers to 'one's own, individual' profile verses all profiles? Then I fully agree with you. Most all were asking how to remove the posts from showing or if there was an option for that.
My post was a simple attempt to show how many new threads have show up that were against having Forum Posts showing on their profiles verses those that were against having the 'Favorites' number show up, that's all.
As far as the link that you posted, only one by the way, would that not be considered a 'List Thread' and in violation of Forum rules here? | |
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Posted: 8/23/2009 9:50:01 PM | Late: I'm talking about years of seeing almost every single thread posted in this forum on a daily basis, you don't believe me? No problem, but at least have the decency to back your assertion that I'm mistaken or lying, ...with something plausible.
Below are post comments on the last few pages in the thread I referred to above (I purposely left out my own references on the subject of favs count, as to not pad the posts) which goes to the mindset of what I was talking about:
Being on the favourites list of 200 or more people. Out of 200+ people, they can't find ONE that is suitable for a date? No... that's someone who is just seeking attention and isn't serious about dating at all.
People with hundreds of friend's-This aint facebook or some popularity contest.we are supposed to be looking for a particular "individual".whats the point of having 200 friends but still single?
quote~~When you see someone with provocative pictures and who has been on this site for a long time and still can't find a single person to date of 200+ 'favourites' (and I've seen that number as high as the 800 range), it's pretty clear that she's not serious about dating and is just here for the attention.
EXACTLY!!!!!
800 people on a friends list? POF must be this person's life! LOL
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I didn't see even one mention about forums posts before the change occurred. There were a couple afterward, and one that seemed to regret it went away.
The whole question's moot, anyway. Btw, I wrote I agree with your fix, Late. You want it in blood? | |
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Posted: 8/23/2009 10:27:30 PM | well well well
its all about money
they trying to make money,, befor was for free ! now they found out lots of ppl joined pof its opportunity to take an advantage :)
correct me if im wrong ? | |
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late™
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Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 114 | |
| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles
Posted: 8/23/2009 10:34:03 PM |
a 'List Thread' and in violation of Forum rules here?
Yup, 
Below are post comments on the last few pages in the thread I referred to above...
I really don't care, this is one of many features that some think "mean something specific", when in fact many different conclusions can be drawn, this is one of the drawbacks of being short sighted. I ask for plausible and I get a syllogistic fallacy, ...well at least that's par for here.
I didn't see even one mention about forums posts before the change occurred.
You are in the unique position of having missed a lot, while really missing nothing of any consequence.
The whole question's moot, anyway.
Some aspects more than others, yes.
correct me if im wrong ?
You couldn't be more wrong, well you could but you would have to make even less sense. | |
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Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 116 | |
| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles
Posted: 8/23/2009 11:00:02 PM | its the fact that money is more importent than anything else
Fact?
Hmmm... Okay, how much money will you charge for giving up using oxygen?
Congratulations, you accomplished "more wrong". 
What does money have to do with:
Displaying or not displaying links that take/took you to the part of the site that has zero ad revenue generated?
Any aspect of the favorites feature which still exists for all practical purposes, save one that is easily proved fallacious when applied as a "rule"?
Keeping in mind that neither feature has relevance to any pay feature of the site. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2009 12:41:30 AM | Oxygen can be delivered to your home in tanks or cylinders. A machine called an oxygen concentrator can be used to produce oxygen. Your doctor will help determine what best matches your needs. Many people like u use a combination of sources. A large tank can serve as a back up for a machine and cylinders are easier to use when you leave
so first go shave and clean ur self then come and talk to me :):):): | |
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late™
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Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 120 | |
| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles
Posted: 8/24/2009 12:57:54 AM | There was a thread started here...
but it got shut down and all the replies deleted for whatever reason
Redundant topics are closed/deleted
Click Here >> Number of Favorites No Longer Appears on Profiles & neither do forum posts
But if you click, it's a dead link.
After the original thread had been going (much like this one) for a few hours, the forum site went off-line for about 12 hours, when it returned it was without the aforementioned thread, which was deleted .
Draw from this what you may.
The link is now fixed and leads to the correct place. The reason for deletion (which is not up for discussion, so be warned) was due to the excessive numbers of flames and off topic chatting going on.
Oxygen can be delivered to your home in tanks or cylinders. A machine called an oxygen concentrator can be used to produce oxygen. Your doctor will help determine what best matches your needs. Many people like u use a combination of sources. A large tank can serve as a back up for a machine and cylinders are easier to use when you leave
If you've agreed to "not use oxygen", how is this relevant? Talk to me when you can parse "not use oxygen".
main reason im here is not becaues of women but because of fav list
What does this have to do with money again?
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vvv –never mind, there is obviously more than a language barrier goin' on. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2009 1:51:18 AM | First, Late: THANK YOU! Well assuming I may take a page from your profile, and post a link to my history (not a hyperlink, a text representation...you know.). Thank you, thank you, thank you! Creative thinking at its finest!
OT: I am dissapointed that the forum posts are gone, like I typed earlier: "I took them into consideration when writing my profile." Of course, thanks to Late, I am able to remedy (kinda) that dissapointment.
As for the favorites, I could care less. Doesn't mean I do not support those who miss them, as I hope they support my loss too!
Moral of the story, life changes and so do web sites. Since none of us are Admin (I think) all we can hope for is an answer as to why it was done.
"Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who." -- Seemed appropriate, since things were killed, and someone killed them. | |
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ceoil
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Joined: 6/12/2009
Msg: 123 | |
| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles
Posted: 8/24/2009 8:45:41 AM | I liked it better before, to see how many that have added the person as a fav and especially seeing the last 5 forum posts:/
But ah well. Maybe they will change it back one day if they realise people prefer to see that.. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2009 8:50:56 AM | | The favs count problem seem to be geared more to women's profiles, btw. They as a gender seemed to average higher fav counts than the men. I know one woman that had, and this is no lie, 2,500+ favs on her profile. I routinely ran across women with 400, 500, 600+ fav counts. It wasn't because because of anything the women did (although some did pander to get attention) but rather just a bunch of horny guys that apparently love accumulating hot chicks...lol. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2009 9:21:41 AM | This was because I occasionally posted 'Sean Connery is so damn sexy!', at the top of my posts, just to mess with people seeing my profile's last 5 post history. Spoilers of shenanigans.
I knows it to be true.
I really does.
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