| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles Posted: 8/24/2009 10:00:01 AM | | I liked seeing the last five forum posts and I got a lot of emails because of my postings. But lets face it, this website has never been a good example of quality web design. I give kudos to anyone that can pay himself millions while getting people to work for him for free, but even with only one paid employee he's been cutting costs for quite some time. As long as the people keep coming back and the ad revenue keeps coming in, I don't think he much cares. | |
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| last 5 forum posts.. gone. Posted: 8/24/2009 12:04:34 PM | | What is sad is that alot of people had fun with the favorites on this site, and they decide to take them away. They should at least make it option. I dont want my forum post to show on my profile, but the favorites were fine. Why listen to a bunch of whiner who cant get dates any ways.. | |
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| last 5 forum posts.. gone. Posted: 8/24/2009 12:47:39 PM |
The favs count problem seem to be geared more to women's profiles, btw. Check the many FAQs, the main problem with the fave count being displayed was with some people's predilection for making assumptions based in ignorance.
What is sad is that alot of people had fun with the favorites on this site, and they decide to take them away. Again, ...no.
Nothing has changed other than the display of totals, which in and of itself is meaningless as a measure of anything definitive.
Why listen to a bunch of whiner Indeed, especially whining based on fallacy and baseless speculation.
Moral of the story, life changes and so do web sites. Well said.
Since none of us are Admin (I think) all we can hope for is an answer as to why it was done. Admin is a math wiz, most of what he does can be figured out if you just apply logic to the question. While he does occasionally explain why he makes changes, the instances of this are rare.
But lets face it, this website has never been a good example of quality web design. This must explain its success.
ad revenue keeps coming in Zero ad revenue generated in forums by forum posts or by favorites counts, "red herring" comes to mind. | |
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| last 5 forum posts.. gone. Posted: 8/24/2009 2:54:03 PM | I personally agree with hiding the favorites numbers. That has been a bone of contention out here since I joined the first time.
As far as the last five forums posts on profiles, well that was something I really enjoyed since I am one that has said to people, if you want to know more about the way I think read my forum posts.
"Lates" idea of putting a quick link on the profile would be a great idea.
The bottom line is Markus is going to make the best decisions he can based on what he feels is best for his business. We can either accept it or move to another site, I for one will stay on POF I enjoy it here.
IMO this site is one of the best run out here on the internet. | |
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| last 5 forum posts.. gone. Posted: 8/24/2009 3:44:51 PM | Check the many FAQs, the main problem with the fave count being displayed was with some people's predilection for making assumptions based in ignorance.
100% Agree, Late. Everybody that sees a high count, even if they knew what it was and where it came from, subliminally thought the person must be an attention whore.
Just from observation, women's profiles just happened to have higher counts (more men appear to be bigger serial favs adders than the gals), so seemed to suffer disproportionally from this ignorance of reading too much into the count.
Glad it's gone.
I see some are using this thread as an opportunity to take swipes at Markus and this site. Whiners about sites always irritated me. If you don't like it here and can't give constructive criticism, there's nothing stopping you from closing down your acct and leaving. | |
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| last 5 forum posts.. gone. Posted: 8/24/2009 4:30:30 PM | The last 5 posts in profile- didn't really care if they left as is or took it out. I have nothing to hide.
The main problem with the fave count being displayed was with some people's predilection for making assumptions based in ignorance.
Might I add, extreme ignorance...
Very glad to see that go. Based so many assumptions on something the user had no control over. Sure you could delete them, but some people would turn around and put them back on their favorites. People simply don't have that much time. | |
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| last 5 forum posts.. gone. Posted: 8/24/2009 5:58:20 PM | I'm glad the Favorite's Number is gone. Couldn't care any less about the Pposting blah blah blah on my profile
But why in the hell are there all these dammed blue search links in the posts?
And can someone tell me who this annoying pop up FRUITTI singles search ad is that keeps popping in and taking over my dammed home page from this POF site? It's totally pissing me off and it only happens to me when I'm online at POF.
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| Favorites count Posted: 8/24/2009 7:33:15 PM | | So what happened to our favorites count? | |
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| Favorites count Posted: 8/24/2009 8:01:23 PM | | ^^^ You still have all your favs, and can look up who's added you to their lists if you want. The visible count's gone because it was causing too much negative reaction. | |
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| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles Posted: 8/24/2009 8:49:52 PM |
Im glad the forum posts are taken off. i think that should be left off for privacy, what if someone had a question about someone they just started seeing, or is interested in.
Thank you. I agree completely. I had to stop using the forums because I wasn't able to speak frankly on subjects, for fear that they'd be taken out of context as a first impression on my profile. I have no problem with people being able to search for my forum posts if they're really that interested, but it doesn't fit on a profile page, which is basically an introduction.
You don't put transcripts of your conversations on the back of your business card. Same principle.
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| Favorites count Posted: 8/24/2009 9:02:54 PM | So what happened to our favorites count?
Faves numbers were a non defined measure of popularity, the emphasis on "non defined". All practical uses of this feature are intact, all that's been excised is *the undefineable aspect of a number being displayed. It was removed because it was meaningless. That it's still being commented on as having one specific meaning in spite of this; is proof of nothing other than, "some people's predilection for making assumptions based in ignorance."
I've always used the favorite feature mostly to keep track of those whose forum writing I respect and enjoy (I still do) –they also had high fave counts, men and women alike, the reason for this may be their writing, ...among other things, there's no way to tell, so there's no point in trying to say "it's so". = moot.
I see some are using this thread as an opportunity to take swipes at Markus and this site. A pastime for some, nothing new. Trolls have been around since the advent of ARPANET, they aren't going away, it's best not to feed them.
Just from observation, women's profiles just happened to have higher counts I'll just take your word for this, as I tend to look at more women's profiles as opposed to men's ones, I'm just wired that way.
that's a private separate section of the site
It's separate site (just look at the URL), it is not private though, viewing doesn't even require membership.
I'll just take your word for this, as I tend to look at more women's profiles as opposed to men's ones, I'm just wired that way. Neither am I.
Obviously, just like "you", I can't make a definitive assessment.
"Neither am...?" never mind.
You forgot one definitive assessment concerning the number - meaningless
I'm also going by a certain age range, since I don't make it a habit of looking at the young gals. Maybe you're into that.
(sigh)
Are you going to stop diggin' your own grave at some point?
My father had a great saying, "It's better to be thought a silent fool than to speak up and remove all doubt.
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| Favorites count Posted: 8/24/2009 9:14:33 PM | | Favorites I don't really care about either way, as long as I can see them. As for the forum posts, yep, good idea to remove those, IMO...I always hated that aspect of this site because the forums are fun but you just don't always want every single thing you post on showing up right away on your profile !! In my view, these posts are like a separate section of the site removed from the dating part, really (again, just *IMO*)... | |
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| Favorites count Posted: 8/24/2009 9:19:02 PM | I'll just take your word for this, as I tend to look at more women's profiles as opposed to men's ones, I'm just wired that way.
Neither am I.
Obviously, just like "you", I can't make a definitive assessment. But from the feedback I've gotten from women, they didn't see the kinds of high counts on men's profiles that I've seen on women's, and certainly not the regularity. I'm also going by a certain age range, since I don't make it a habit of looking at the young gals. Maybe you're into that.
My "opinion" is some people love My Space-type friends accumulation, and love adding to their favs list for the simple act of adding.
Are you going to stop diggin' your own grave at some point?
Hey, Pal, you started with the snide comments.
I'm giving opinions in here, just like you. You want to play final arbiter and mod of this thread regarding what can be written, but give yourself a free pass, so be it. With your style, even after I'm gone I'm sure I won't be the only one you'll have a run in with. Happy trails. | |
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| Favorites count Posted: 8/24/2009 11:02:48 PM | | I think it is great now people can't email you about how many faves you have and read personal advice just from your profile. | |
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| forum posts/favorites numbers Posted: 8/24/2009 11:15:12 PM | The forums are for interacting in separate discussions other than immediate profile interests.... it is best they are gone off of the profiles. The favorites are best not being public.... but should be readily available for the member in private.... as some do not want their emails filled with posting/adding rif raf and rely on the count to see activity.
I wish Marcus could somehow make a field for the favorites number in private on the members profile. | |
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| forum posts/favorites numbers Posted: 8/24/2009 11:24:59 PM |
I wish Marcus could somehow make a field for the favorites number in private on the members profile. Are you asking about your profile of profiles of others? The number of favorites you have on your profile as well as those that have you as favorite is still available on your profile. | |
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| forum posts/favorites numbers Posted: 8/25/2009 12:56:17 AM | most of women are here because of fav list thing :) so was fun ! i dont agree with the way they removed it ! | |
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| forum posts/favorites numbers Posted: 8/25/2009 4:33:40 AM | Good that Markus got rid of the Fav count! That was so high school and caused unnecessary problems.
But dayum, got rid of the Forum Posts too .... not happy about that one, not at all.
Big Daddy Fish, I want forums posts back  | |
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| forum posts/favorites numbers Posted: 8/25/2009 9:38:29 AM | actually I don't mind loosing the last 5 posts thing but I sure would like to see the favs count remain.
I have found this to be the most effective way to eliminate people who you know you won't have a chance with. If you have some little princess who is on over 100 favs and is too picky to be able to choose one decent guy out of the lot then theres no sense wasting your time writing an emails so she can boost her little pathetic ego by deleting it.
personally I think markus is doing all these changes because men are getting fed up with the site and the bad attitudes of the women here and are starting to leave in droves, or like myself, no longer wasting their time writing to imature selfcentered daddys girls who have never seen a pastry they couldn't cram into their ever expanding bellies.
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| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles Posted: 8/25/2009 9:55:03 AM | What does money have to do with:
Displaying or not displaying links that take/took you to the part of the site that has zero ad revenue generated? What's the big mystery? It's no accident that IKEA has so few exits. Inviting users to leave the premises makes no cents. | |
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| Favourites & Last 5 Forum Posts being removed from profiles Posted: 8/25/2009 10:24:05 AM | What does money have to do with: Displaying or not displaying links that take/took you to the part of the site that has zero ad revenue generated? What's the big mystery? It's no accident that IKEA has so few exits. Inviting users to leave the premises makes no cents.
The links didn't act as a site "exit", the forums are still here and forum URLs are the only one's allowed on profiles - where was the invitation to "leave the premises"? POF forums still show up in Google searches, this is how many people find the site, they have not been excised from Google archives (which can be done), how is removing forum links on profiles a money making scheme?
I can think of a few reasons that the last 5 posts were removed, but "to make more money" takes the cake for WTF?
Seriously, how is this scheme supposed to work? | |
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| last 5 forum posts.. gone. Posted: 8/25/2009 11:04:49 AM | I've never been a favourite of the Last 5 posts, nor the Favourites count. I'm glad they are gone! Profiles should only contain the information necessary to help you 'sell ' yourself, but not carry information to help someone who does not have a clue about you, make a decision of not wanting to know you, based on what you have said on a thread, how you said it, etc...regardless of factors that may have influenced your post, which may well serve to obscure the real you.
As for 'favourites' count, well, when was the last time you had coffee with one of your 300 favoutites, or had at least a stimulating online chat? Weren't these forums riddled with complains that took the form of: "Why do men add me on favourites yet they won't send me a message"; "why why why" etc... | |
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