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Msg: 176 | |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 1:13:44 PM | But how do save the URL,
You can paste the URL on to your profile (see mine to see this), you can save the URLs of your favorites lists in the favorites notepad feature, or just use a browser bookmark.
how do I look up another poster's history?
There is a search feature at the top right of the forum window, copy and paste the username into the search field, click on the drop down menu and select "Username", then click "enter".
You may have to look through a thread to find one of the user's posts, chose the result with the least pages after checking for threads posted by the user name or "last posts" of the search results. Click on their "history" link under the picture/name avatar next to the forum thread post, save the URL using the notepad feature in favorites or just use a browser bookmark.
Some users may have the URL on their profile (if they choose to do so), if so; just copy and paste it where ever you want. | |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 1:38:57 PM | Okay...I got it.
Thank You !!! | |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 2:28:55 PM | I've read the last few pages of this thread with interest, and a feeling of surprise that for some following a favourite poster's posts would become such a chore without the ability to access their profiles and see their latest posts at the end of their profiles. I wondered if like me, others might be aware that there is a new website called 'boardreader' which gathers information from forums webwide and allows a searcher use it to look up topics being discussed anywhere in the world on a public forum in various languages.
My attention was brought to it after chatting to someone who told me that they are a prolific poster on various forums where they use the same username constantly. I googled their name and discovered that they have posted quite a lot on Pof dot com forums, when I clicked on the link provided by boardreader to their latest post, I discovered lots of information about their input on here, including their statistics for the last three months as a poster, the last threads they posted on, not only that but also the statistics of other members who posted on the same local forum as in who are the top ten posters, how many threads they've posted on and how many posts on each thread, there is also an archive of their individual posts which can be viewed.
I thought others might be interested in checking that facility out. | |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 2:40:10 PM |
We are supposed to be learning about others on here, yet you remove the seeming only ability to get in to their head by reading!!!
Get rid of the stupid roses, you want to know whats pointless on here!
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Posted: 8/26/2009 2:55:41 PM | You know, I keep reading about how such a small percentage uses the forums.
How insignificant the forums are to the overall people here.
Doesn't just READING in the forums, for whatever reason, (learn more about a potential match, even), count as using?
I mean heck, there are 182 posts in this thread... but 6,333 hits to read in the past 4 days.
Dunno, I've just often wondered about that. | |
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Msg: 181 | |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 3:22:02 PM | Okay, lets see how this applies to the issue at hand and the user-base (Which is in and around the 10,000,000 mark).
182 is not even representative due to repeat posts, but let's do the math anyway -
182/10,000,000 = .0182%
the seeming only ability to get in to their head by reading!
"Seeming" being the operative word, there are still plenty of options. | |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 4:22:30 PM | Forums on a dating site is just a tool like any other, but I think a powerful one, even if not used by everybody or used for varying purposes. I know of many people that read forums posts even though they’ve never actually posted, so averages regarding total users vs forums users has the possibility of being distorted.
I think every dating site should have a robust and well but not overly moderated forums. POF agrees with this or they would have simply shut the present forums down (my understanding is they did once, but brought it back).
There are also plenty of other features not universally used on a dating site, but are supplied due to other considerations, like enhancing a user’s experience or simply being "fun" to do. I personally have never used many POF features, like “Create your seduction guide”, “Matchmaker” between two friends, “Can you hold a relationship?”, etc. I'm wondering just how many actually have. If some do like these features and get enjoyment out of them, fine.
Obviously, like many other profile options, the previous forums post links were not absolutely needed, but certainly helped those so inclined to use it.
The disuse of the links has been dealt with by simply adding your own posting history URL to your profile. If that’s the fix, how about giving us the opportunity to hyperlink it. As has already been stated, POF has a bot to make sure "only" POF URL’s are allowed on our profiles, so having HTML coding around a legitimate link should not be a problem. | |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 5:08:04 PM | Hello again!
Now that I understand how my posts show up... :)
Canceling the favorites count has brought me to posting on the forum! Ha ha! - Markus great job on increasing forum traffic?!
I liked the favs... I used to use it like a "smile", if my count had changed, then I would go and have a look to see if there was someone new who I was curious about; and I might choose to say hello to, or add him to my fav's.
Also... regarding the low count ones, I assumed that either the person was new to POF or possibly the women were completely blind to this amazing gem of a guy who I had discovered!! Woo hooo!
If you don't like the implications of the fav #'s just make a note on your profile that you choose to delete them, thus your number is always at zero.
Yes, I did kind of hesitate to say hello to a 'high numbers' guy - ie he has the pick of the litter. Also the ones that were ridiculously high... you could tell something was off, that was a handy indicator too.
Actually I learned a lot about marketing through the favs... when I changed my profile from 'long term' to 'friends' and noted that I was looking to move to Arizona, plus opened up my age preferences... my numbers tripled in about 2 weeks. I had not changed a single picture and yet, I still got emails from guys looking for relationships.
I am assuming this is because I became less threatening (not a "diamond and white picket fence NOW" girl! LOL), or maybe others figured they could get a quicky relationship before I left? Plus I opened up the age group (more viewers).
Anyhow, I find the site overall interesting... and when I get sick of it... I just hide my profile. Tamara | |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 6:19:12 PM | well, if people think that favorites are all about dating all of them, then i must be quite a trollop!  i usually did a weeding after a hundred or so, but i've been posting here for a good three years. even posted when in relationship, just said "not looking". asked above, how many favs have we met? well, i've met a number within the state, hosted a few travelling through, talk to many on the phone via magic jack which is free to usa and canada--and private email quite a good number. a large number were "quality" contacts, usually from the forums. so, i figure as i weeded out slowly but surely, i had contact with at least 4 out of 5 favorites. not all at once, but many with similar continuity as with old friends from back east.
now, if men who do not participate on the forums, do not contact me because of the fav number, then that is soooooooooo sad. i did put a disclaimer on my profile, describing my use of it for forum buddies. if they didn't get it or didn't question it, then just how bright are they anyways? i mean "do the math" ! i'm 60 years old. what do they think i am? a madame?
as to the missing five posts. it's driving me away from posting and reading. i tried to see the top posts of each forum topic, but it just didn't work in keeping me in sync with fellow posters. maybe i'll try the url trick. but, that will take a lot of time to afix so many e-buddies. i come here to relax, not to do more work. however, i have gotten my butt out the house, since the posts were removed!
if i were to have my plea! BRING THEM BACK OR ALLOW A CHOICE. the favs can be argued both ways it appears. that is no biggie to me, i have enough self confidence. however, at my age, i do think it was helpful. yet, here are people contacting me, who would not have before. so, "whatever". just give me back the posts or yes, it would be nice if people put their posting urls up and i will be doing that. it would then be a bit easier, although still not as good as before.
ps when i posted something i didn't want the general public to read, i made sure to post six times to at least get it off my profile!  so not sure why that is such a big issue. | |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 7:19:17 PM | For those that still want to track who adds them to their favs, go to your Mail Settings and scroll down until you see this line:
Send me an email when someone adds me to their favorites: [ ]Yes [ ]No
Click the Yes radio button and whenever someone adds you to their list you'll get an email. The favorites count was just a representation on your profile. The list the count derived from still remains. If you need to update your email address, go to your Registration (can be found at the bottom of your Edit page). Remember to save any changes. | |
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Posted: 8/26/2009 8:44:18 PM |
"troll, troll, troll some quotes, gently make it seeeem..." So first it is considered slagging him to suggest he might be interested in making more money,
and then it is considered trolling to cite examples of him saying he is interested in making more money?
If laughter is indeed the best medicine, then the forums are for sure a fabulous pharmacy.
OT:
Are the "last 5 forum posts" just not going to come back, and any discussion is now 'forbidden'? I'd guess that the links will not be coming back unless his numbers tell him that he started losing money after removing them...and I concur with an earlier poster's remarks about the futility of discussion about them here. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2009 1:08:42 PM | So I guess they're never going to put our number count on our personal favorites page? I admit, I'm really missing that feature. I relied on that number for a lot of things, and I'm sad to see it gone. I want to at least know how many people know the exact times that I'm logging on - I think that's reasonable considering it concerns my privacy.
If we don't have the option to SEE the number and SEE every person who's added us, then we should have the option to DISABLE favoriting altogether. I'll start a new post about this soon if it isn't sufficiently addressed. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2009 1:13:41 PM | ^^^So what does that tell us about SITE/SUGGESTIONS/HELP in general?...
I once worked for a guy who had this slot in his office wall, with "Suggestion Box" printed over it...
The slot fed directly into a wastepaper basket... | |
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Posted: 8/27/2009 1:16:41 PM | The forum threads on profiles was an easy way to gauge the morality of an individual and was liked by many people...
Sometimes their morals are not easy to see on a profile description. However opinions on forum issues gave you a better picture of that. Sad to see it gone...Sad to see that the moderator is in a "non-listening" mode. A good moderator should be a good listener and FAIR otherwise why have you even left this thread open logically? This attitude is dictatorship and insensitive
The way we retrieve our forum posts is now "inefficient" for the users...I don't know about the programming code behind the seens and how complicated it was or if has been made "shorter" now...taking up less memory space in the background etc...but some more logical answers would be nice...I have worked with raw HTML programming code and am familiar with it...I realize this is a free site, but the attitude behind the scenes lately is unbelievable...
If this is an issue of bad Public Relations due to awful forum postings then better moderators would solve that problem...sorry gotta call the shots as I see them and be honest... | |
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Msg: 190 | |
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Posted: 8/27/2009 1:20:16 PM | I want to at least know how many people know the exact times that I'm logging on - I think that's reasonable considering it concerns my privacy.
Just look at the list, where it's not just a number, but the profiles that have faved you. Set your mail settings to "email when someone favorites me". There are still options to the change in both features.
Sometimes their morals are not easy to see on a profile description. However opinions on forum issues gave you a better picture of that. Sad to see it gone...
Yet there's still the option to check for forum posts in the small percentage of users who post, there is still the options to keep track of favorite poster's histories. There are still options.
Sad to see that the moderator is in a "non-listening" mode. .
The moderator has no say in any admin policy decisions, especially on the dating site where moderators have zero admin privs. Currently there's one moderator away due to family emergency, and one too busy to even participate other than to deal with obvious flame/libel posts on this thread.
A good moderator should be a good listener and FAIR otherwise why have you even left this thread open logically?
It may well be closed or deleted, the previous thread was nuked because of flames/libel posts.
This attitude is dictatorship and insensitive
See: Flames/Libel
If this is an issue of bad Public Relations due to awful forum postings then better moderators would solve that problem..
How is this even close to being a fair statement when Admin doesn't keep the mods "in the loop" either?
You say you are "calling it s you see it", has it occurred to you that you are seeing it as something that isn't based on the facts?
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Posted: 8/27/2009 1:26:26 PM |
Just look at the list, where it's not just a number, but the profiles that have faved you. Set your mail settings to "email when someone favorites me". There are still options to the change in both features
Thanks late, but unfortunately that method of tracking isn't particularly effective. I have/had around 600 favorites - the favorites page cuts off after a certain number. I can't track around 5/6ths of the people who have already added me.
Further, a new person could add me (as tracked by email) and then remove me quickly and I'd never know if I'm still on their list, unless they've logged on recently enough that they'd show up on my favorites before the cutoff (usually within the last few hours). And unless I've added them to my favorites, it's impossible to confirm if they've removed me.
Just looking at the list would help if it showed everyone who adds you, but unfortunately it does not. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2009 1:30:20 PM | | It is "inefficient' and not "user friendly" to not be able to see # of favorites...once again I don't know about the convenience of this from the programmers end...perhaps it "shortens" the raw html code and conserves memory... | |
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Msg: 193 | |
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Posted: 8/27/2009 1:43:10 PM | Further, a new person could add me (as tracked by email) and then remove me quickly and I'd never know if I'm still on their list, unless they've logged on recently enough that they'd show up on my favorites before the cutoff (usually within the last few hours). And unless I've added them to my favorites, it's impossible to confirm if they've removed me.
How on earth do you keep track of 600 just by number, specifically as you say? Sorry, I can't see any practical use to being on 600 favorites list other than if you are required to be in a position of easy contact - i.e. a moderator. What practical use are you employing this feature for in either a "dating" sense or a "forum" sense; if this really isn't about a perception of popularity? If this really is a privacy issue, why the 600?
It is "inefficient' and not "user friendly" to not be able to see # of favorites...once again I don't know about the convenience of this from the programmers end...perhaps it "shortens" the raw html code and conserves memory...
I have doubts whether this is even an issue at all, the most obvious reason to me is the nebulous information that the number alone conveys, as well as the many complaints from those who have misunderstood this reality from both sides of the coin. This is but a speculation, it is not baseless though. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2009 1:55:12 PM | How on earth do you keep track of 600 just by number, specifically as you say? Sorry, I can't see any practical use to being on 600 favorites list other than if you are required to be in a position of easy contact - i.e. a moderator. What practical use are you employing this feature for in either a "dating" sense or a "forum" sense; if this really isn't about a perception of popularity? If this really is a privacy issue, why the 600?
Why the 600? Because I don't have the time to sit here and clean up my favorites list every time someone adds me. I have no control over who adds me except to laboriously delete them one by one - as another user pointed out, not at all user friendly. But I'd like to at least know who my favorites are/how many people are doing it - that is where the number comes in. If I can't even see everyone who is adding me, at least I can know approximately how many people are. For all I know, I could be down to 300 now or up to 1000, and I have no way to tell.
And honestly, I got used to the 600 number, I've been hovering around there for months. But should that climb, I feel I have a valid concern for why I should know that. Every single one of those users can see when I am online and track my usage habits.
So why am I focusing on the number, more than asking Markus to fix the code so that we can see everyone who adds us? I'd be much happier with the latter, but I think it would be much harder to implement and possibly more of a load on the servers. The number count just moves the number from one place (our profiles) to another (our private favorites page, where only we can see it).
Now, I know Markus has a blog online somewhere and I'm half tempted to find it again so I can see his explanation for why he did this. I am glad that the count is out of the eyes of the general public (and frankly, glad that the forum posts are too), but I still want to know for my own information.
Late, I am glad you are responding, I know it's not an easy or fun way to spend your spare time. But these really are valid concerns that Markus needs to see, and if the uproar continues, he really should address. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2009 2:01:51 PM | Then what is your purpose of even discussing this? The new changes are "inefficient" and "not user friendly" to the users of POF...Sorry but you can't "sell" this stuff to me as an improvement...I'm not "buying into that"
So you guys did away with the favorites simply to "spare" the egos of those who could not handle the #'s? | |
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Posted: 8/27/2009 2:16:36 PM | Sad to see that the moderator is in a "non-listening" mode. A good moderator should be a good listener and FAIR otherwise why have you even left this thread open logically? This attitude is dictatorship and insensitive
Msg #195 pretty much sums it all up but here is a little more
The thread is open so that should Admin (who makes all the decisions because it is his toy) want to read the opinion of the members he can.
So as a Moderator I am being "fair" and also giving the person in control of this the opportunity to "Listen" to members.
I could nuke every thread that rears its head on this including this one as it is an emotive subject and likely to become a flame/libel fest!
I can be a good listener all you like but in getting this change reversed, revised or even having input with Admin I would be about as much used as a chocolate teapot.
At the top of this forum it says this
Moderators will have limited understanding of how new features work. I(admin) create and test new features in a matter of hours and constantly tweak things to see how they work. Many new features will be in a constant state of flux. Should a feature not enhance the site it will be removed.
I don't know about the programming code behind the seens and how complicated it was or if has been made "shorter" now...taking up less memory space in the background etc
That makes 2 of us, sort of, ish, see I think it is all done by imps.. I am quite convinced of that and so now you can see how a (Well this particular one) Moderator can moderate quite efficiently and effectively without needing to know how the imps work in the background, What they eat?, Do they need excercise? Are they happy? all those things because the Site is owned and run by Admin/Markus/Bigfish (I am assured he is not an imp) The point being, yes feel free to express your views on
I like this because..... or I don't like this because...
But try not to get your knickers in too much of a twist if there is no "official" response...
He does have all those imps to look after....
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Posted: 8/27/2009 2:49:01 PM |
Then what is your purpose of even discussing this?
I have the unique perspective of having been a moderator here, just because I no longer moderate doesn't negate the experience. As far as purpose is concerned, while my intent is mainly to offer options to those willing to try them, I also am trying to speculate (based on experience and critical thinking) for those wanting answers and those prone to trolling baseless speculation.
The new changes are "inefficient" and "not user friendly" to the users of POF...Sorry but you can't "sell" this stuff to me as an improvement...I'm not "buying into that"
Fine, but you are likely part of a minority of "the users of POF" represented by at best a single digit percentile. History tells any who have been here long-term that lobbying and advocating for Admin to change his mind about any changes yields zero results. Nobody's going to stop you from posting your complaint, while some will posit alternative options.
Do those who try to offer options and/or experienced based explanations deserve the contempt being heaped on them by those choosing an avenue proven to not yield solutions?
Where is the logic in this (aside from dumping angst on the undeserved)?
So you guys did away with the favorites simply to "spare" the egos of those who could not handle the #'s?
First and foremost - not "you guys", ...one guy.
My speculation, is that it was removed because there was no defined meaning to the number; which lead to all manner of misinterpretations. I feel no need to blame anything other then general ignorance via preconception, no ego necessary, no need to fire off epithets to any "egos of thse who".
But try not to get your knickers in too much of a twist if there is no "official" response...
He does have all those imps to look after....
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Posted: 8/29/2009 8:32:22 AM | I am wondering if someone is now following the forum threads and usage since this change?
I know that now I have a much harder time following friends comments in different threads, along with some of the threads I have posted to as well. Many times we follow threads because of topics, mood, and friends that we enjoy listening and talking to, and now that is much harder to do.
Losing the favorites list does not bother me at all, in fact, I think it levels the playing field for all, that they do not know if that person they are reviewing is on 100 favorite lists, or one.
I do however, miss not having an easy way to see where my friends, and those I am potentially interested in, as well as my most recent posts, are located. It was much more convenient to just click on the forum posting of an individual while on their profile, and head right to it. The same thing for our own, and since there are many many of us that post to the forums often, it becomes a feature that we like to have at our finger tips.
To have to click on someones history when in a thread, or find a thread that they have given their point of view, in order to find their forum history, takes longer to do, and is much more inconvenient. While doing this, many times you end up at the beginning of the forum thread, and then have to search multiple pages to find that one comment, which is very distracting as well.
I wonder if we could set up a button that will let the owner of the profile allow those seeing it, to click on it and see the last five forum postings? This way, only those that do not mind others seeing their postings, can turn it on, and all the others can leave it off, like we do with the viewing button.
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Posted: 8/29/2009 9:04:04 AM | Late,
Thanks for nice idea. I will paste my Forum posting history URL on my profile.
This is why I love POF forum fishies.....
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Posted: 8/29/2009 1:39:17 PM | | Good idea not to show others how many people put you in their favorites, but I'd like to know who added me. I get emails all the time that say somone has added me, but don't know how to check anymore. Before, they removed this feature there was a link at the bottom of the profile. Does anyone know if there is a way to see who put you in their favorites? | |
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