| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/24/2009 7:49:42 AM | I think both men and women have expectations when going to a "first meet". And, just like people are different, so will they have different expectations. Some expectations are realistic. Some are unrealistic. To say..........
women tend to make these meet ups more important than a casual hello.
OP: You obviously haven't told these women ahead of time that you're NOT looking for a possible relationship. And, that you're only interested in having casual hello/coffee/drink meets.....ad nauseaum.
If two people have been communicating constructively via email and phone for " a time", then the first meet really serves as an initial pitch to the other person for a possible relationship. If this is not your objective, it's important to inform the lady that you just want a "casual" interview and to see if you like the looks of her, in real life.
Most first meets are disasters because people haven't effectively and honestly communicated their expectations to the other person, beforehand. | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/24/2009 8:04:34 AM |
Most first meets are disasters because people haven't effectively and honestly communicated their expectations to the other person, beforehand.
Well, a man expects to determine whether he could ever conceive of getting into bed with the woman he meets, No big mystery there...... | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/24/2009 8:10:35 AM | In particular I no longer expect the women to be the age or the weight they have represented themselves to be. To bet on that is worse than going against the house in Las Vegas! The vast majority of women I have met lied about their ages by from 3 to 12 years and their weight by double digit pounds, even double digit kilos. Since these women had misrepresented material facts about themselves I wanted nothing to do with them.
You have to take the time to ask the difficult questions beforehand:
1) So, how old are you?
2) So, how fat are you? | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/24/2009 9:45:05 AM |
In particular I no longer expect the women to be the age or the weight they have represented themselves to be. To bet on that is worse than going against the house in Las Vegas! The vast majority of women I have met lied about their ages by from 3 to 12 years and their weight by double digit pounds, even double digit kilos. Since these women had misrepresented material facts about themselves I wanted nothing to do with them.
Oh no! Does the mean that the guy who told me he was in his 40's when he was actually in his 60's was a WOMAN?!!
Seriously, if you have such a low opinion of women why are you even on here? | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/24/2009 9:57:20 AM |
In particular I no longer expect the women to be the age or the weight they have represented themselves to be
As the stomach churns...............
Could you tell that to the guys who show up being 3 inches shorter, with no teeth and smell like a polecat?
Since these women had misrepresented material facts about themselves I wanted nothing to do with them.
And, that is certainly your perogative.
I too expect that the person, whom I'm communicating with, has not lied about his age, height or embellished other details. | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/24/2009 9:58:44 AM | They do have more, but they are redundant. The man will be expecting the woman to show up. The woman will be expecting the man to show up and also:
to not be anywhere else
to have just come from somewhere else
to stay as long as he remains
to continue to not be wherever else he isn't
to be present
to refrain from being elsewhere the whole time he is present
to acknowledge that he is in fact present
to not pretend to be elsewhere or that here is actually somewhere else
This is why when the man and the woman first sit down together his mind is free to wander while hers is consumed with the process of taking inventory of his compliance with her many expectations. | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/25/2009 7:25:52 PM |
You have to take the time to ask the difficult questions beforehand:
1) So, how old are you?
2) So, how fat are you?
So . . . how many responses do you get to these questions? What percentage is that? How many dates do you get this way? | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 9:36:58 AM |
Most men want a life size Barbie with holes and no opinions.
Oh right. I can't think of anything more enjoyable than spending my days and nights with a brainless bimbo with huge tits and a vacant expression behind her eyes......
Get real..... | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 9:40:06 AM |
You have to take the time to ask the difficult questions beforehand:
1) So, how old are you?
2) So, how fat are you?
Us gals could throw in a third question?
3) So, how small are you?
Ya know, the "slights" and "digs" that appear in these forums never cease to amaze me at times.... | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 9:53:25 AM | In particular I no longer expect the women to be the age or the weight they have represented themselves to be. To bet on that is worse than going against the house in Las Vegas! The vast majority of women I have met lied about their ages by from 3 to 12 years and their weight by double digit pounds, even double digit kilos. Since these women had misrepresented material facts about themselves I wanted nothing to do with them.
Congrats again Gaddlflye on getting all the angry bitter women worked up again...
btw did you ever think maybe you didnt met their expectations either...the common factor in the people you meet is you...so you are half your own problem and it just might have to do with your selection process...
As far as expectations goes...if you get to know who someone is before you met them..then you are meeting that person...if you allow your physical attraction to be the only factor to guide you in who you are willing to meet then you will find yourself disappointed.
At one point I was only dating what would appear to be professional, successful men ..or as they would say "decent" but I found that wasnt a good way for me to choose, physical attraction does play a part but it shouldnt be the only factor ...nor should who someone is...it is the combo of the two that is important.
Btw I am 100 percent sure that
You have to take the time to ask the difficult questions beforehand:
1) So, how old are you?
2) So, how fat are you?
was meant in humor and poking fun at Gaddlflye! | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 10:18:13 AM | Nope Miss Saph, it wasn't! I gave up on our good Mr. Flye eons ago! lol Earlier in the thread it was posted that those two questions were and should be asked before a meet. I found them insulting to women to be quite frank, so I threw in a crass one of my own to round things out. | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 10:24:36 AM | Some ladies' profiles state "size" restrictions. Myself, I always wondered about the subtleties of accomplishing such a measurement. It does appear to me that the "size" of my own response to a lady is related to her appeal to me and her various actions, while any measurements taken while not contemplating the pleasures of the flesh are highly correlated with the ambient atmospheric temperature.
Perhaps some clarification on this issue from the ladies would be of benefit when evaluating one's chances in the face of such restrictions..... | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 10:25:46 AM | Btw I am 100 percent sure that
You have to take the time to ask the difficult questions beforehand:
1) So, how old are you?
2) So, how fat are you?
was meant in humor and poking fun at Gaddlflye! Sorry, but given his other posts (one example: http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts12886828.aspx--msg 6) I'd guess you ae probably about 100 percent mistaken about this being anything other than directed toward women. And btw, having an opinion connotes neither anger nor bitterness; it is simply having an opinion. In fact, I've little if anything to be angry at 'men' for or to be bitter about. Hope the 'angry/bitter' comment was tongue-in-cheek. | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 10:27:02 AM | You post some unbiased and straightforward thoughts, Sapphireeyes. Please continue doing so.
Physical attraction is merely the first cut for me. One has to start somewhere and at least for me, a woman has to appear f**kable to be a potential romantic partner. Otherwise she is at most friend material. I am discussing my experiences from meeting potential dating partners so, naturally, physical appearnce plays a role although intellect, personality, wit and much more must be present for me to wish to to proceed further with a dating partner.
My original post on this topic essentially stated that most of the women I personally have met from internet dating sites have lied about important material facts, their age and weight. I read in women's posts that short men lie about their height, other men about how much money they make or whether they smoke and so on. Since I am not trying to meet men to date I have no idea what lies some men tell. The point I would like to make is that it is counterproductive for members of either sex to lie about material facts if one is truly hoping to meet a potential ltr partner.
I realize "peacocking" is a normal part of the mating process and to be expected. Most of us want to look our best as well as appeal to members of the oppositie sex with our wit, an attractive and pleasant personality, good flirting moves and the like. However, misrepresentation of material facts is over the line and amounts to willful fraud. | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 10:38:10 AM |
Oh right. I can't think of anything more enjoyable than spending my days and nights with a brainless bimbo with huge tits and a vacant expression behind her eyes......
Get real.....
*sigh*...Now I know why I am single! Sheesh!!! | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 3:02:30 PM | | I think we can all agree that both sexes online tend to skirt the truth here and there as to size and age. However, this is generalization and as such, why should anyone here take such a comment personally? | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 3:13:21 PM | Do women have more expectations than men when we meet for the first time? I have just recently been contacted by 3 men in a row who seem to have very high expectations before even meeting. That is, they seem to think we are practically a couple and the future is nearly a done deal. This after just a few emails. The expectation seems to be that everything is just going to fall into place once we meet. It's a turn off. Or at least it is off putting; makes me wonder about their judgment. | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 3:21:52 PM |
Sorry, but given his other posts (one example: http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts12886828.aspx--msg 6) I'd guess you ae probably about 100 percent mistaken about this being anything other than directed toward women. And btw, having an opinion connotes neither anger nor bitterness; it is simply having an opinion. In fact, I've little if anything to be angry at 'men' for or to be bitter about. Hope the 'angry/bitter' comment was tongue-in-cheek.
Actually Ismene, the woody dude states in the post you linked this:
Yes, I don't care for emoticons much so you have to be pretty sharp to catch my sense of humor. Lots of what I say that sounds offensive or arrogant is tongue-in-cheek. If you don't find the humor in it, you should look harder.
The post Gaddlflye was directed at SOME women that he had met, to which I stated that if you are meeting the same type of WRONG person then it is also your fault that it is happening...ie people who misrepresent themselves by lying about age or weight.
Another example when I first joined a dating site the first few men I met were trying to grope me in public...I could say all men were rude pigs...but it wasnt ALL men and it was ONLY the men who I was meeting...I was the common factor and there was something I was doing wrong... so I stopped meeting men...problem solved (For those without a clue, that was my tongue in cheek humor).
However I do stand by my statement that there is a group of forum posters who are both angry and bitter especially toward post by Ren or Gaddlflye which IMHO totally take away from the validity of what they might be trying to say...so while you feel you have the right to express an opinion...so do they. | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 3:32:48 PM | ^^^There is a type of humor a friend of mine once called "teasing on the square." What he meant was, though someone might say they are 'just teasing,' their sarcastic or ironic comments are really in truth expressing what they really feel. The three who are mentioned in your post are doing that, imo. People don't repeatedly dig and dig at a certain point just to be humorous about it. It means they have a focus and a problem with it. It's like constantly making jokes about 'my ex-wife' or 'women drivers.' It betrays an underlying dislike/resentment of or bitterness about women. These men's 'jokes' or comments are transparent, not subtle, as they seem to think they are. And I do get them. Their constant digs are obvious.
As far as my taking the comment about bitter/angry personally, I wasn't. I was just making the point that, as it seemed to be made as a generalization, I would not want to be included in that generalization as I believe it would be unjust. I do think that an awful lot of the time, when a woman expresses a strong opinion, on these 45+ forums, she is accused of being angry or bitter. It is a typical tactic aimed at women to keep them from speaking their minds. According to what I have said in this post and others, I suppose to some I appear to be a major feminist with an attitude, but those who think that, imo, are limited in their understanding. | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 3:33:53 PM |
I realize "peacocking" is a normal part of the mating process and to be expected. Most of us want to look our best as well as appeal to members of the oppositie sex with our wit, an attractive and pleasant personality, good flirting moves and the like. However, misrepresentation of material facts is over the line and amounts to willful fraud.
in other words, if you were shopping for a new car and wanted a new fire engine red sports car with leather interior and went to test drive one, and when you got there it was faded burgundy with cracked vinyl and rust with an odomoter reading of 150,000, you might feel a tad let down? :)
(either gender) | |
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| Do women have more expectations than men?
Posted: 8/26/2009 4:07:11 PM | Moonbeam Love You nailed it.
Everyone puffs up their image a bit us the best photo and try to do compelling essay who who they are and what they are looking for in a date or relationship.
Some have a tendency to over state their "qualities" Seems they went to the school of used car salesmanship." I mean , The school of marketing for ultra fine per owned automobiles with class and status. | |
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