| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/2/2009 12:39:25 AM | | Now that we are half way through I will predict Olly will win, he has the likability factor and can sing and dance a bit! I would like to see Joe win but I dont think he has Olly's charisma at this point. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/2/2009 1:03:33 AM | | I like olly but I also like jamie and lucie. Id be happy if any of those won. I went to a wedding reception on sat and they had a telly so I kept snatching a few moments to go and watch it. How sad is that? | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/2/2009 2:04:35 AM | olly ... top three ... but worst haircut ever.
stacy ... fabulous
lucie ... there is something about her that i don't like ....
jamie .... the scarf hanging off the waistband .... so wrong ... so very wrong
the geordie kid with the fake smile and the wobby voice ... very annoying
the blonde kid who lost his voice ... don't like him .. weak
rachel ... good singer .. bad mentor, felt a bit sorry for her
danyl .. i like him .. good singer
louis walsh ..... an idiot who talks complete rubbish
dannii minogue ... a one hit wonder with a famous sister ... she needs new hairstylist
simon ... you have to love him and even if you don't you have to agree with him
cheryl cole .... talentless twit who proved with her live performance a few weeks ago that she can't sing ..... and her no1 album and single proves that the record buying public is made up of idiots.
olly, stacy and lucie .... but what the hell do i know .... the twins will probably win it ! | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/2/2009 4:24:28 AM |
the twins will probably win it ! I hope so, if only to annoy Simon Cowell. There is no one, in my opinion, in this year's crop who has any chance of being a successful recording artist - apart from the no-brainer number one xmas single.
I think I've got Louis' strategy sussed: Pick one act that you think might do well, then pick the worst two acts in your category. The no-hopers get voted off early and you can concentrate on the half decent act for the rest of the competition. Sort of worked last year but this time it's backfired. He had his hoped pinned on Miss Frank but he totally misjudged the audience. Their selling point was the rap girl and while some people love it and were very vocal in their support, fact is most people can't stand it and Louis is too out of touch to comprehend that. So he ends up with the least talented act ever to have got this far in a singing contest (hello?), doesn't realise people are only voting for them for a wind-up and struggles to find anything to say about them without actually admitting that they can't sing.
Jamie = karaoke/busker.
Lloyd = limp little mummy's boy
Danyl = arrogant SOB who's already run out material that fits his half-octave range
Olly = Can't make up his mind whether he wants to be Jamie Cullum or Michael Bublé
Rachel = Doesn't understand that there are forms of singing other than gospel
Lucy = Technically the best singer in the competition but zero star quality. Belongs in a choir
Joe = Might end up treading boards for Andrew Lloyd Webber but recording artist? Not in a million years
Stacey = Adorable but far too limited vocally
With the exception of Lucie, they all have serious tuning issues, which they shouldn't have at this stage. The main problem is none of them have enough range to cope with anything more demanding than Status Quo
Of course, the comedy value of the WAG who can't sing and the singer's sister who can't sing presenting themselves as expert singing judges is priceless.
I recorded the halloween night show, and on watching it after I got back from the pof meet at the Alex, I have to say the best performance of the night was actually in the pub. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/2/2009 5:53:55 AM | I spy with my little eye!!! Still so opinionated and quite hilarious  Was the performance in the pub yours perchance? 
Personally I think Lloyd should definitely have gone this week and I really hope Rachel sticks with it and gets a recording contract.
Danyl needs to give himself a shake and stop feeling sorry for himself - but the press are being decidedly horrible to him and I'm not entirely sure why. Uncalled for and unfair.
Stacey would be great if she never spoke again (my youngest does a brilliant impression of her )
Jamie needs to sort his affro out properly and stop putting his arm up in the air when he's leaning over on his mic, and although I like him I don't think he should win.
Lucy has a fabulous voice but very little "star quality", maybe that will come with confidence?
Olly is great all round, my likes him a lot 
and Joe is a good singer but really not my cup of tea.
I've no idea who I want to win though!! | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/2/2009 6:00:13 AM | | I prefer real talent myself, something that will never be found anywhere near the vicinity of Simon Cowell. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/2/2009 6:18:47 AM |
I spy with my little eye!!! Still so opinionated and quite hilarious Was the performance in the pub yours perchance?
Personally I think Lloyd should definitely have gone this week and I really hope Rachel sticks with it and gets a recording contract.
Danyl needs to give himself a shake and stop feeling sorry for himself - but the press are being decidedly horrible to him and I'm not entirely sure why. Uncalled for and unfair.
Stacey would be great if she never spoke again (my youngest does a brilliant impression of her )
Jamie needs to sort his affro out properly and stop putting his arm up in the air when he's leaning over on his mic, and although I like him I don't think he should win.
Lucy has a fabulous voice but very little "star quality", maybe that will come with confidence?
Olly is great all round, my likes him a lot
and Joe is a good singer but really not my cup of tea.
I've no idea who I want to win though!! Hello hun, long time no see. So who let you in here? :D
No, it wasn't me, it was a lady who sang one of our old duet numbers - on her own. I was gutted because I was asking around to see if anyone knew the song and all of a sudden I hear this woman singing it. (I did my usual)
And I stand by what I said. The whole thing is very karaoke this year, and you know I don't think there's anything wrong with that, I just find this whole celebration of mediocrity a bit old hat now. Frankly I'd rather listen to you, and you know I mean that.
Meet my friend Angel. She's a northerner, but hey, no one's perfect and she really does have a great singing voice. Seriously, if she were on the x-factor I'd vote for her, and that's not just because she's a mate. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/2/2009 6:37:51 AM |
Meet my friend Angel. She's a northerner, but hey, no one's perfect and she really does have a great singing voice. Seriously, if she were on the x-factor I'd vote for her, and that's not just because she's a mate.
Aww bless you for saying so. Chances of me putting myself through that kind of ritual humiliation though? Absolute zero!! No way on this earth I'd even attempt it - I know my limits, and karaoke it is | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 2:29:58 AM | Well my favourite went last night, Lucie Jones  was ousted by the public! I can't believe, that she got less votes than dumb & dumber  . I'm more angry at Simon****eadCowell!!!! He's hated them from day one, but chose to let us decide.
Wtf do we know about 'Musical Talent'? Well nothing apparently, as a proper VOCALIST lost out. Okay Jedward are good for a laugh, maybe even have careers doing kids parties. Possibely even, they will be the next Ant & Dec. I'm boycotting XFactor now though, it's nothing more than a joke after this result!  | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 2:57:30 AM | its interesting to see how everyone is seeing this...
2 weeks ago... miss frank vs Daryl in the final vote... Cheryl was the one copped out and let it go to the public vote... no one complained then....
last week.... Rachel vs Lloyd in the final vote... Simon actually said Rachel was the better singer and still copped out, yet let it go to the final vote... no one complained then...
this week.... same as last week... an everyone is up in arms....
I am not saying I like Jedward... but the fact still remains that Lucie got the least votes........
if the vote had gone the other way would we be having this discussion....
in the end, maybe the moral of the story is the vote vote and vote...... no act is safe....
if Daryl had gone... people would have been up in arms...
if Lloyd had gone... people would have been up in arms...
what we have seen over the last 3 weeks is consistancy.. in that fact that the judge who had the deciding vote have chickened out of "dropping the hammer" | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 3:26:26 AM |
in that fact that the judge who had the deciding vote have chickened out of "dropping the hammer"
Well they should change the format then, remove their powers to say who stays and goes come the last two. Or even allow the two judges, who have no acts in the bottom two to vote first? Simon Cowell IS a hypocrit, he voted Jedward for one reason. The reason being, those that CAN SING are a threat to his acts.
Lucie WAS a threat, he knows the two clowns are loved by 'the public'. They keep voting them in, to see what shambles of an act they have for next week. No disrespect to those who genuinely like the boys, but they belong on a TALENT show not a SINGING one. In my opinion, the show is literally a total farce for letting it go this far. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 4:05:39 AM | | I love how everyone gets so wound up by this show, Facebook especially. So much hate aimed at a couple of 17 year old boys. Louie was right to stick 2 fingers up at booing adults. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 4:12:23 AM | None of us should be surprised that John and Edward are still in this karaoke show.
Its quite obvious that there going to win even if they cant sing and don't deserve it.
The other contestants might as well give up now as it doesn't matter how well they do.
Simon Cowell will keep these young lads in this show right until the end as its good for the ratings.
Expect them to have a christmas No1 hit also!! | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 5:46:21 AM | People actually did complain over the last 2 weeks about it being taken to deadlock.
Of course it was a tactical move on Simons part, I actually think he has no idea what he says from one minute to the next, before the performance he said it would be taken on who had the better performance, then when it was obvious that Jedward were on their way home, he bottled it.
However, it could backfire on him as well, the twins might end up getting more support over the next couple of weeks and I wonder if Danyl or Olly or Jamie end up in the bottom 2 against John and Edward will Simon vote to send them home or will he send it to deadlock.
It's been suggested elsewhere that people from outside do the job of mentoring, because obviously each judge votes for their own acts regardless of performance.
Louis Walsh is just an idiot in my opinion, the audience can boo if they like, it's been going on for weeks, sticking the fingers up just shows himself up. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 7:14:07 AM | Am I wrong here but when simon was asked to vote... lucie had 2 votes against her and the twins had 1 so if simon had said lucie she would have gone but if he had said twins it would go to public vote as it did anyway and we all knew that the twins would have more votes from the public than lucie. I think simon was just being very clever coz it wasnt actually his fault she got the boot. The public did it for him. And actually I agree with simon I would prefer to watch the twins prance about on stage than watch some princess just stand imobile for 3 mins. Oh CONTROVERCIAL!! | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 7:16:43 AM | No, John and Edward had 2 votes against them, if Simon had voted for Lucie she would have been saved. He can do what he likes really, it's his show but to state before the sing off, it would go on performance then send her home, why say that.
The twins are rubbish, everyone knows that. As Dannii Minogue said at the end, it's a singing competition, the twins can't sing.
If they want to entertain and nothing else send them off to Britains Got Talent. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 7:26:20 AM | I do beg your pardon yes I got that wrong what I meant to say was even if he had voted to keep lucie in it would have still gone to public vote. Only if he voted the twins off would it have been differant and as people have said b4 keeping them in is only giving his over 25's a better chance.
I do agree that the twins are in the wrong program
Not discussing voteing strategies again the results the same either way she lost. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 7:39:48 AM | If he had voted to keep Lucie in it it wouldn't still have gone to the public vote, because Cheryl and Dannii had already voted to send the twins home, if Simon had saved Lucie instead of going to deadlock John and Edward would have gone home last night. By the time Simon voted Lucie had 2 votes for her to stay and the twins 1.
The tactical voting is part of the show but in cases like last night, where before the performance he said whoever gave the best performance would be saved, then he sent it to deadlock?
This is the man who has been saying from day 1 how untalented he thinks the twins are, as I said, he said prior to the sing off, it would be judged on performance yet he bottled it.
The thing is, yes he's doing it to protect his own acts, however look at the amount of votes John and Edward have been getting until last night. If they end up in a sing off against one of Simon's acts which is possible, I bet he won't decide to send it to deadlock at that point.
The thing is, keeping them in could backfire on him badly because they might end up winning it and he won't look so smug then. It's also been said that before the judges vote, they know exactly how many votes have been cast in the public vote and who will be going home if a deadlock situation happens.
I actually think keeping Lucie in would have given his acts a better chance, because she doesn't have the support that John and Edward have, she could have been voted off within the next couple of weeks whereas they might make it right to the end.
A twins Danyl final for example and remember it's the public who decide the winner, not the judges. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 7:52:38 AM |
No, John and Edward had 2 votes against them, if Simon had voted for Lucie she would have been saved.
Louie voted first, picked Lucie to go obviously! Danni voted next, chose Jedward to go (two mentors picking their own acts). Then Cheryl voted, she picked Jedward to go. So two votes for Jedward, Simon Coward chose to sit in the fence and picked Lucie to go. He doesn't care about anyone but himself, all he see's is £ signs and veiwers/phone ratings rake it in.
I don't hate Jedward, they have some sort of talent but it's not singing. I feel sorry for them actually, and all the other acts in this show for that matter. They're merely pawns, being paraded for their own mentors egos if you ask me  | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 9:13:25 AM |
Well they should change the format then, remove their powers to say who stays and goes come the last two. Or even allow the two judges, who have no acts in the bottom two to vote first?
in which case I have no problem with that... but you still forget one thing..... Lucie still got the least amount of votes..... she would still have gone last night!
Jedward would still be in the competition anyway you look at it... you would still have them annoying you week after the week...... simon bottled it, cheryl bottled in... and I bet you see louis and Danni doing the same...... | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 9:22:52 AM | Which to be honest makes a bit of a mockery of having the judges there in the first place if they can't vote properly, because it was obvious from watching Simon Cowell last night that he knew that Lucie had given the better performance vocally, but chose to save John and Edward because she had hit her ceiling and he wanted to see them again. However look at the positive comments he gave her the week before.
Watch back some of the earlier rounds, the Scots lad who went out in week 2, if you look at his original audition, Cowell said at that point that he would be Scotlands highest hope in the competition, he was voted all the way through to the live finals and he suddenly turns into a pub singer. The previous week when Danyl basically blew it live on stage, he was out of tune, he forgot his words, he said that he was still the best singer in the competition, sorry but that was a dire performance. Judges seem not only incapable of voting fairly, they seem incapable of giving their acts anything but 100 per cent praise even if they mess up. Cowell hardly has a good word to say about Joe either and I think the fact that himself and Cheryl seem to argue all the time influences how he feels about her acts. If someone else took over the mentoring and the judges voted on the acts as they saw them, the whole contest would be fairer, otherwise it's just panto. Sending it to deadlock particularly if the judges know beforehand who would be going home when the contestants face the public vote is just wrong.
I don't like the twins but it will serve Cowell right if they win it. Every single week when the twins perform the backing music is turned up so loud to cover the fact that they simply can't sing. The standard of the show is poorer than it was last year, but I think some poor choices were made by the judges in earlier rounds.
Still, every vote is more money for the Cowell empire and that really is all this show is about. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 10:03:02 AM | The point here is that SC said the sing-off vote would be based on that performance alone. Clearly it wasn't based on that performance alone because not even someone as devious and manipulative as him could manage to convince himself that the twins sang better than Lucie. So why did he save them? Simples:
Could Lucie have beaten one of Simon's acts if it came down to it in the final? Yes.
Could the twins beat any of Simon's acts in the final? Not a hope in hell. So they stay and she goes.
He's not interested in judging a competition, he's just trying to make sure there is no competition. | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 10:06:50 AM | So sick of all the Simon bashing, he left it to deadlock (public votes) the public liked Lucie the least out of all of them.
Instead of whinging about good singers going, pick up the phone and vote.
I am going to bet that Lucie being 8th would never have won anyway so deal with it! | |
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 10:09:27 AM | Couldn't they? It's the public who decide the final vote, I think John and Edward could win, particularly as I don't think Olly will go the distance, Jamie neither, I think the last of Simon's acts standing will be Danyl and if it came to a Danyl/Jedward final I think they could win it.
Not because they are the best obviously but because they are going to gather more votes in the weeks to come, having been in the bottom two, the kids who are voting from their mum and dads phone are going to vote more to keep them in.
I think the twins could win this, not that I think they are the best act or that they deserve to win it but by not getting rid of them last night I think Cowell could live to regret this.
I am going to bet that Lucie being 8th would never have won anyway so deal with it!
Really? Take a look at the voting figures from last year, Alexandra was in 7th or 8th place until the last few weeks, the person who was winning every single week up till then was Eoghan. JLS were also in the bottom two and went on to get second place, the voting patterns are unpredictable, it's not generally until the last few weeks that people actually make their mind up who they think should win the show.
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| X factor 2009
Posted: 11/9/2009 10:10:13 AM |
he left it to deadlock (public votes) Fair enough but if they're going to do that every week, why bother with the "sing-off" - it can't influence the public vote because the lines are already closed by then. So it is literally a waste of time, unless ritual humiliation is actually the object of the exercise. | |
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