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 Wicked_Cricket

Joined: 9/26/2009
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Posted: 10/25/2009 3:18:10 AM
ha lint -
I generally come back with - are you asking if I date outside my race? because the truth is - it's none of your business if I've dated a black guy or not.
if you want to ask me out, do it. don't mean you have the right to know my business
 Costaman

Joined: 10/14/2007
Msg: 76
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Posted: 10/27/2009 10:18:21 PM
FYI....
Many of us have the same culture as you...perhaps because we are Americans also. Not all of us like rap, hip hop etc. (?)
I'm not surprised about your assumption. However your attitude is short sighted. Kind of sad but your comment is similar to how many people (across many races) think.
 Ismene2

Joined: 3/28/2009
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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:17:34 AM

Lots of times white guys will ask that question of white women, and if the white women say "yes", they get called a bunch of nasty names, so I have been told!

And that sucks
I don't think I've ever had anyone ask me, but sometimes, when it has come out, in getting to know someone, it has been a problem for the white guy. Which means, for me, bye bye. Not interested in people who have a problem with people dating people of other races, cultures, etc.
 DJDuvalFLA

Joined: 9/29/2009
Msg: 78
saying to me ever dated a black man?
Posted: 10/28/2009 7:23:51 AM
Funny thing is I get white women who ask me if I ever dated a white girl also.
 prime ribb

Joined: 11/12/2008
Msg: 79
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Posted: 10/28/2009 9:44:56 AM
I don't even bother asking that question.
 HawkingJr

Joined: 4/16/2007
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Posted: 10/28/2009 12:17:49 PM
See, this is the reason why the site should have more dating preferences or mail settings. Then nobody would feel compelled to ask that question, because it would say right in his/her profile who he/she prefers to date. Sure, you could type that out in the "about me" section now, but that obviously leads to a lot of problems for those who do so (nasty random emails, etc.), because so few others do it, and it also makes those who do it uncomfortable or "anti-pc" to do so. If EVERYBODY had to choose, like you have to choose "male/female" or "smoker/nonsmoker," then those who really wanted to limit interested parties wouldn't feel so self-conscious doing so. I come across maybe 1 profile out of 20 that explicitly states, "I am only interested in dating someone of this race, these ethnicities, my own race," yet all research indicates that this is much higher than any 5% (in fact, I see quite a few people in the forums say they won't date someone like this, that and the other, but then you read their profiles, and they make no mention of these "deal breakers" whatsoever). I wrote a research paper on dating preferences a few years ago and did a massive survey of all sites like Match, Mingles and Yahoo which force you to choose dating preferences such as ethnic background, and 57% of white women indicated they would only date white men (black women was 22% for only black men and Hispanic women 14% for only Hispanic men). Obama aside, I doubt the world has changed that much over the past few years, so basically what that says is if you're not white, then 1 out of every 2 emails you send to a white woman on this site is immediately wasted for that reason alone (and it's likely wasted for additional or other reasons that could be listed upfront, too). It would be much more efficient to know this ahead of time. I've never sent an email to any woman on Match who specifically singled out my race mixture as one she wasn't willing to date -- no time wasted there.

But all that said, as we're stuck with the system we have for the moment, I think you'd have to be a little crazy to send someone such a first contact email. What's that going to accomplish? I just send a regular "Hiya" email, and if they aren't interesting in dating someone like me, they won't respond (trust me, THEY WON'T RESPOND). No one's going to get into a 50 email dialogue with you if they aren't willing to date someone with your physical characteristics (unless they tell you "friends" right away or very early). I suppose it is up to each individual to decide if such an introductory email is rude or crass, but why even bother taking such a chance? Just introduce yourself like you would to anyone you thought you had a chance with and that way you won't offend anyone who would have dated you except for your foolish email asking something highly unnecessary.
 blueceleste

Joined: 6/2/2005
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Posted: 10/28/2009 9:04:35 PM

See, this is the reason why the site should have more dating preferences or mail settings. Then nobody would feel compelled to ask that question, because it would say right in his/her profile who he/she prefers to date. Sure, you could type that out in the "about me" section now, but that obviously leads to a lot of problems for those who do so (nasty random emails, etc.), because so few others do it, and it also makes those who do it uncomfortable or "anti-pc" to do so. If EVERYBODY had to choose, like you have to choose "male/female" or "smoker/nonsmoker," then those who really wanted to limit interested parties wouldn't feel so self-conscious doing so. I come across maybe 1 profile out of 20 that explicitly states, "I am only interested in dating someone of this race, these ethnicities, my own race," yet all research indicates that this is much higher than any 5% (in fact, I see quite a few people in the forums say they won't date someone like this, that and the other, but then you read their profiles, and they make no mention of these "deal breakers" whatsoever). I wrote a research paper on dating preferences a few years ago and did a massive survey of all sites like Match, Mingles and Yahoo which force you to choose dating preferences such as ethnic background, and 57% of white women indicated they would only date white men (black women was 22% for only black men and Hispanic women 14% for only Hispanic men). Obama aside, I doubt the world has changed that much over the past few years, so basically what that says is if you're not white, then 1 out of every 2 emails you send to a white woman on this site is immediately wasted for that reason alone (and it's likely wasted for additional or other reasons that could be listed upfront, too). It would be much more efficient to know this ahead of time. I've never sent an email to any woman on Match who specifically singled out my race mixture as one she wasn't willing to date -- no time wasted there.

But all that said, as we're stuck with the system we have for the moment, I think you'd have to be a little crazy to send someone such a first contact email. What's that going to accomplish? I just send a regular "Hiya" email, and if they aren't interesting in dating someone like me, they won't respond (trust me, THEY WON'T RESPOND). No one's going to get into a 50 email dialogue with you if they aren't willing to date someone with your physical characteristics (unless they tell you "friends" right away or very early). I suppose it is up to each individual to decide if such an introductory email is rude or crass, but why even bother taking such a chance? Just introduce yourself like you would to anyone you thought you had a chance with and that way you won't offend anyone who would have dated you except for your foolish email asking something highly unnecessary.


i agree. just put on the dating site for the users to specify if they have a preference for ir dating or not. why dont a lot of dating sites do that? what is strange is ive had white men and women contacted me when their profile specifically said they were only looking for someone who is white. one white guy asked me whats wrong with chatting? i said nothing at all but u need to stick to what ur profile is sayin. if u dont date interracially, then ur wasting my time and urs. i told a bi/les white woman that too. as usual, i got cursed out was told i couldnt handle having a conversation the whole rejection and silly crap.

i used to put in my profiles of the ethinicites i was looking for and THAT only attracted racist ppl who hated ir dating/marriages and they gave me so much shit. it still didnt change my mind, i just blocked them. why did it attract racist ppl and not ppl who were genuinely interesting in ir dating?
 HawkingJr

Joined: 4/16/2007
Msg: 82
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Posted: 10/29/2009 8:36:01 AM
Well, according to this thread:

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13309695.aspx

and the ones referenced in it, the reason there aren't more dating preferences or mail listings is because it's a free site that thrives on page views and heavy site traffic, and more mail settings would cut back on the traffic significantly. Which is true. If I knew there was little to no chance a woman wouldn't return my email because of my ethnicity or my height, I certainly wouldn't send her an email.

Which is why I ultimately suggested (A) Markus should look into having extra mail settings being a paid add-on, to counter balance the loss of traffic, or (B) instead of using actual mail settings that completely prohibit emails, he could just install "preference" listings, either visible (which would definitely cut back on traffic, unfortunately) or invisible, like the personality test. You'd get a score of that person's acceptability of dating someone like you instead of actually being told what that person specifically found objectionable. If I saw that you were 10% accepting of someone like me, I could still email you -- I personally WOULD NOT, but plenty of guys probably would, because they're crazy like that, so it wouldn't cut into the site's traffic nearly as much as most other methods. And for those of us guys who are serious about not wasting time on women that have no interest in us, POF would become a much less frustrating experience, and the women would get less emails from "nice guys" that aren't their type and that they feel bad about ignoring, so it would be less frustrating to them, too. And it wouldn't lead to trollish nasty emails from people saying, "Are you a racist?" or saying racist things themselves.

But I digress.

Actually, most dating sites do ask the users what ethnicity, what body type, what height, etc. they would prefer to date. But those sites, like Match, Yahoo, Mingle, eHarmony etc., are all fully pay sites and don't have to worry about traffic totals nearly as much as POF does. So to some extent I get it, but it just seems like POF should be trying much harder to get around that. On the other hand, the site's making money and not enough people are complaining about such things (despite many secretly wishing for more preferences), so why fix what ain't broke? At least I assume that's ownership's philosophy to some extent.
 blueceleste

Joined: 6/2/2005
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Posted: 10/29/2009 1:33:12 PM
yahoo is not a paid site? wait r they now charging? when i 1st used it, it was free...
 HawkingJr

Joined: 4/16/2007
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Posted: 10/29/2009 2:26:44 PM
You have to have a paid membership to send anybody a real email. You can send pre-written notes without a paid membership.

Frankly, I think Yahoo and Match in particular are borderline scams. Anyone can indeed create a profile for free, and they don't tell you who has paid memberships and who doesn't. So you find yourself paying membership fees to send emails to people who can't even respond to you with a real message (and they strip out email addresses or phone numbers if you try to send those in early messages). I may be mistaken about this, but I think with Match you actually have to have a membership to read real messages -- I haven't been on it in a year, so I'm not sure that's still true. But let's say you don't have a paid membership for a while but keep your profile up. Suddenly, mysteriously one day, someone sends you an email -- they tell you that you've got a message -- but you can't retrieve it (or in Yahoo's case just respond to it) until you pay their $30 a month fee! I fell for that a couple of times and the suspicious woman writing me never wrote me back. Which is why I don't really bother with those two sites anymore.

I think they should be more like Hot Or Not (or at least like HON used to be) and so long as ONE of the two people trying to communicate have a paid membership, they can communicate with each other, so you're not wasting time sending messages to people who can't respond to them. I mentioned this to both Yahoo's and Match's customer services, and they basically yawned at me, saying something like "Well, we think our members prefer more exclusive people to communicate with." The problem with that is, hardly any women will pay for a dating service. Why should they? It's like why bars have ladies' night -- women can find eager men everywhere and don't feel like they have to pay anything to meet them. I'm somewhat surprised Match and Yahoo continue to function with such policies, but on the other hand, they can probably survive on the suckers like formerly me willing to pay their membership fee to email people that can't email back.

And that's why I keep trying to get them to improve POF such that it works better for everybody, because it's the most legitimate thing out there at this point, unfortunately.
 spot4username

Joined: 6/19/2007
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Posted: 11/5/2009 9:47:00 PM
Every so often I get an email that asks if I would date a man of color (black, middle eastern, etc.) . I figure they are just cutting to the chase so that no one's time is wasted. I have never gotten one that I found to be offensive until tonight. The entire email was as follows

Would love to secretly date a white lady.. interested?


I did respond to him but I don't think it was the response he was looking for.
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