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Posted: 9/22/2009 1:12:54 PM | burn, to which I would reply that science is by necessity a lot more conservative in its approach to what they deem "truth" then anyone else, especially those who so ardently criticise "science orthodoxy" and those who say science is so sure of "the Truth." Bottom line, there is no such thing as orthodoxy in science. Everything is up for review and revisal.
The majority of scientists have a very clear view of our problems with our understanding of nature. That's because the reality of it frequently comes up and slaps them in the face. A couple of cases in point:
Case 1: Relativity and Quantum Mechanics...two mutually-exclusive sets of rules for the operation of the universe. While both work in their scales - one at the very large, one at the very small - something isn't right with that. Hence the reason for seeking an overall set of rules that incorporate both. And why some physicists love M-theory. However, nothing is carved in stone.
Case 2: (and On-Topic) Planetary formation. It used to be astronomers were pretty sure of how planets formed. Rocky planets close to a star, gas giants further out. Pretty simple. Then they started finding planets around other stars using radial velocity studies - big planets. Big gas giants, even.
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Posted: 9/22/2009 1:49:28 PM | Gazer- What's your take on having a fundamental feedback of information between the gravitational field (information moving in) and the electromagnetic field (information moving out), that is a basis for for self-awareness, consciousness, and nature? In order to be self aware you need feedback. That just happens to be the fundamental way fractal equations are written. A fractal equation is an equation where you take the result of it and you feed it back and you get another iteration, you feed it back, you get another iteration and you feed it back, and so on. So you get this infinite amount of complexity out of a very simple set of rules. And you see this everywhere in nature.
I'm going to be very unorthodox now. I believe that viewing the universe as a fractal solves the problem of combining the strong forces and the weak forces. But this also requires you to believe in an infinite universe. This may be a whole new topic, but I don't know. What are your thoughts? | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 2:14:52 PM | Fractals work as a model for trees, clouds and funky blacklight mandelbrot posters. It's use as a real-world explanation for fundamental physics is going to require a lot more than "belief."
This is what I was talking about before. Thought and imagination work great to a point. Even Einstein used "thought experiments." However, he also had the mathematics to back it up. Eventually, the rubber has to hit the road. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 3:09:10 PM | | You're suggesting that any plausible theory has to be backed up by mathematics. as daffy duck would say, "that's preposterous" | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 3:12:43 PM |
You're suggesting that any plausible theory has to be backed up by mathematics. as daffy duck would say, "that's preposterous"
Versus....what? Since mathematics is the language of physics, then it's not so preposterous. Or did you think that computer you're typing on was brought about by wishful thoughts and self-actualization? | |
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Posted: 9/24/2009 12:24:27 AM | Planets are birthed by Suns. Solar systems grow. When the 10th is birthed, it moves out and forms a new solar system.
Well, you asked.
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Posted: 9/24/2009 9:55:35 AM | The Universes are growing and changing and moving from prana energy to ether to substance and back again. When the prana is not there form returns to prana. The same principle operates throughout the universe. The suns birth the planets. Each planet is electromagnetically communicating with it's father sun as it grows and changes. When the next planet is birthed, it moves out of the cradle position making room for the next. The suns are conscious beings who hold the image of each planet in the spirit mind, then allow it to lower in vibration into physical form. The universe operates on LOVE. The transmutation from prana cosmic life force to ether to substance (the trinity) is love in action. And physical form transmutates back into Prana. All possibilities are happening on many levels.
This same process is mirrored on Earth. As humans, we have the birth right to create with our minds and desires by holding an ideal in our minds in the spiritual dimension and lowering the vibration into physical form. This process is the foundation of everything. We are fractals of the Universe and it is filled with Prana, Cosmic Life Force which is a very subtle light which follows the spiritual laws and is of the highest dimension. It's laws are over all other lower dimensions which move down into the physical dimensions.
We are made of Prana energy and this is our life force, what truly keeps us young and eternal. It is life giving quality in the air that we breath. To consciously breath in the prana is like trying to catch a particle of dust falling in the air, the more force we make to get it, the further it moves away, but when we calmly hold out our hand with confidence it comes to us. This is the nature of prana, it is everywhere but requires out attention and conscious desire to receive it. It takes conscious desire to connect with it and breath it in. When you do that, you're whole being begins to expand in consciousness and your vibration is raised to the laws of spirit which are over the physical laws. By your consciousness, you can operate in the purely physical dimension if that is all you are aware of but why? Why limit yourself? | |
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Posted: 9/24/2009 11:45:03 AM |
The Universes are growing and changing and moving from prana energy to ether to substance and back again. When the prana is not there form returns to prana. The same principle operates throughout the universe. The suns birth the planets. Each planet is electromagnetically communicating with it's father sun as it grows and changes. When the next planet is birthed, it moves out of the cradle position making room for the next. The suns are conscious beings who hold the image of each planet in the spirit mind, then allow it to lower in vibration into physical form. The universe operates on LOVE. The transmutation from prana cosmic life force to ether to substance (the trinity) is love in action. And physical form transmutates back into Prana. All possibilities are happening on many levels.
This same process is mirrored on Earth. As humans, we have the birth right to create with our minds and desires by holding an ideal in our minds in the spiritual dimension and lowering the vibration into physical form. This process is the foundation of everything. We are fractals of the Universe and it is filled with Prana, Cosmic Life Force which is a very subtle light which follows the spiritual laws and is of the highest dimension. It's laws are over all other lower dimensions which move down into the physical dimensions.
We are made of Prana energy and this is our life force, what truly keeps us young and eternal. It is life giving quality in the air that we breath. To consciously breath in the prana is like trying to catch a particle of dust falling in the air, the more force we make to get it, the further it moves away, but when we calmly hold out our hand with confidence it comes to us. This is the nature of prana, it is everywhere but requires out attention and conscious desire to receive it. It takes conscious desire to connect with it and breath it in. When you do that, you're whole being begins to expand in consciousness and your vibration is raised to the laws of spirit which are over the physical laws. By your consciousness, you can operate in the purely physical dimension if that is all you are aware of but why? Why limit yourself?
No. You are not helping to explain the formation of stellar systems. Instead of interjecting with nonsense, please start your own thread concerning prana energy and vibrational magic.
As for real science, does anyone know of any peer-review papers on binary systems and the possibility for planet formation? | |
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