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 cotter

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Posted: 9/8/2009 5:27:07 PM

Cotter?
Why the attack on what I said?
I apologize ... it was not meant as an attack.

It's just that so many have been emphasizing the "discussion with parents" in an effort to infer that the President would say something inappropriate to the children of our nation ... to the children of any nation who might have the privilege of hearing what he has to say.

He's a self-made man and no matter what his politics are ... we have to admit he did it pretty much on his own ... with the encouragement of a single mom and aging grandparents. He did it by putting his nose to the grindstone and applying himself.

I know what that's like and did that myself ... 30 years after the fact though. I got a late start because I put my family ahead of me. But I pulled myself up by the bootstraps and did it and not too shabby if I do say so. A 3.8 grade average in nursing school after being out of school for 30 years is nothing to hang one's head over.

I suppose that's why I have so much respect for anyone who has done anything similar. I just don't understand the Republican hate and how they appear to want to put everything down that any Democrat suggests ... even if it might be really good for their child or family or our nation.
 imalwayssmiling

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Posted: 9/8/2009 7:14:03 PM
I think it was deplorable that a president is not able to speak to our kids anytime he feels like it about anything,you can decide after the fact if you feel it was ok he was the president a child does not have the right to not sit there and listen,a child cannot get up and walk out on his principal or walk on his teacher without severe reprimand and he should have the same rights with his president,that is 100% compliance .

Its funny though,not a single child had a problem with this only their parents.I don't think its up to the parents at all. I don't care whether this was a pep talk or not,when the president wants to speak he shouldn't have to hear a bunch of the sky is probably falling bull or show a script or what if "he might say something I don't like",How dare you people, what country do you live in, are you Americans or what,its pathetic that all citizens do not listen to what a president says. Many of you claim your only protecting all our children or your child,its plain old un American,others may coddle your feelings and right,I say though that you should be ashamed of yourself for sheltering your kids from the leader of America.

What did you expect the leader of the free world was going to say to your little kids .makes a lot of us wonder .

Its hard to imagine in a country where virtually no parent ever goes into a school and checks the teachers lesson plan or checks a principals speach before he speaks yet these same people by the tens of thousands are so afraid of our president that they have to read a script before their kids are allowed to listen to him.

Get real and try acting American.Its too bad you have total disgust for our president but do you have to pollute your childrens minds while your at it.admit it,you'd never in a million years have to read a script of what the principal was going to tell the kids !
 geeleebee

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Posted: 9/8/2009 8:43:48 PM
It's very American to speak out--it is very ugly to speak out before you know what you're speaking out against.
This situation made some parents seem very ugly, indeed.

What did their children learn?
Act first--find facts later.
Judge.
Judge some more.
Rely on rumors/gossip/lies, rather than research for the facts. (what a pesky 'f' word!)

Seriously--it's embarrassing to read what some people accept as the truth, and then repeat it.
Death Panels
Gonna kill Granny
Gonna kill the baby
He's Muslim
He isn't American
He's going to coerse our children into commiting unholy acts against Nature
Friggin' Socialist
There are WMD ( couldn't resist!)

Research. Don't be so eager to believe the negative.
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 9/8/2009 9:24:43 PM
Arlington Texas didn't show the speech...........

In a few weeks many of the students are going to Texas Stadium for a G W Bush speech............


Play the Speech backwards and it takes on a whole different meaning...............

I bet there are increased Calls for Moonie and Cult de-programmers..
 notatowniegirl

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Posted: 9/9/2009 7:35:18 AM
It's simple... they're afraid that their kids have more common sense than they do and will give the black dude a chance. They're afraid that if the kids realize how provincial and out of touch their parents are, it might spread into other areas and they might start doing stuff like using birth control or reading!
 where4

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Posted: 9/9/2009 8:15:19 AM
Thanks for all the comments on this page (3). I wholeheartedly agree. This brouhaha made me feel very sad for my country.

I am a veteran. I'm wondering, should Republican soldiers refuse orders from this commander in chief until their dear party leaders and Rush Limbaugh approve them?

I wasn't aware of the Arlington, TX hypocrisy. Sick! Let them secede from the United States, take all the rabid thumpers with them, crown GWB king, put up a great big fence, form a circular firing squad with all their guns and ammunition...

I feel sad for Michelle Obama and hope that her children don't watch the news. Michelle had reservations about Barack's decision to run; I'll bet she never ever imagined this kind of idiocy and blind hate on so simple an issue.

Yeah, "Family Values" Republicans! Patriotism! (Where's that barf icon?)
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 9/9/2009 8:25:26 AM
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An Interesting point ... Thhis speech has been elevated in history like no other...........

Unintended consequences ...... AND every kid that was not allowed to see or hear it will be on You-Tube As soon as they can....

This speech will reach more people than any GW Bush speech...

Thanks to the Nut cases...
 cpfstock

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Posted: 9/9/2009 10:19:41 PM
this is just fake outrage. a tit for tat kind of deal for when bush did this same thing in 2001. dems, then in control of congress, had an investigation. had the CBO turn over production cost records and call some admin folks in to testify before a congessional committee. this is all just part of the game.
 laxref41

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Posted: 9/10/2009 11:10:10 AM
Interesting that someone thinks Bush executed the same speech in 2001 when it last took place with Bush I in 1991...
 cotter

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Posted: 9/10/2009 11:55:19 AM

this is just fake outrage.
Interesting that someone thinks "this is just fake outrage". Maybe we should ask some of the posters in here who were "outraged" about it.

a tit for tat kind of deal for when bush did this same thing in 2001.
Do ya think they will support that statement ... they were just tooting a horn of "fake outrage" as "a tit for tat kind of deal for when bush did the same thing in 2001"?

this is all just part of the game.
Despicable ... inappropriate insinuations about what the President might be saying to our nation's children ... "is just part of the game"?

That's just perverted. But then that's nothing new coming from the Repugnicans ... eh?
 tranquilo123

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Posted: 9/11/2009 2:58:19 PM
Those parents that kept the kids from attending school and the districts that chose not to carry the presidential address to the students imparted a very bad lesson that day. As educators of those children, they should know that the kids learn more from what they see the adults doings than from what they say.

The opponents of the president missed a good opportunity to educate the children on the importance of civil discourse. In my opinion, the biggest mistake was the opposition to the idea of asking the students to write about their ideas to help the country in the current situation. Just the idea of asking the students to write their ideas is a good thing in and of itself. Believe me, when it comes to writing, the students need lots and lots of encouragement. What better incentive than the idea that their essays would be read by peple working by the president, perhaps the president himself. Besides, it is very possible that some of the kids would come up with some excellent ideas that people haven't thought of yet. I am all for listening to the kids because theirs is the future.

Iam not a republican, and I am way left of the democrats, but I remember that when my daugther was in school the teacher asked the students to write to the president. I didn't object, even though George H. Bush was a republican. When my daughter received a reply signed by the president (although I seriously doubt that he wrote it,) my daughter was very happy and proud of herself. She gained a lot of confidence in her abilities and did very well in school, although she has been voting for the democrats ever since she registered as a voter.

Yeah, leave to the republicans to deprive their own children of some good opportunities.
 SteelCity1981

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Posted: 9/13/2009 1:06:01 AM

TX hypocrisy. Sick! Let them secede from the United States


They already did once but apparently it didn't work out for them too well the first time around.


After seceding during the Civil War, Texas was allowed to re-enter the union after ratifying the 13th Amendment. The 13th Amendment banned slavery in the United States and any territory subject to its jurisdiction.

http://blogs.chron.com/texaspolitics/archives/2009/04/perry_says_texa.html
 boredbroad

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Posted: 9/13/2009 8:45:22 PM
a bit and cotter ....

Maybe the Midwest has not experienced what the West has ...

They have changed the content of History books for decades !

Now .... they are taking out all references to male, female, father, mother , ... etc. etc...

any reference to any kind of gender....

I really don't think that's a Conservative agenda ... Do You ???

BTW ... I had no problem with the address he actually gave ....

I had a problem with the address he wanted to give....
 etourdi77

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Posted: 9/14/2009 3:39:42 AM
You can not expect a parent to not have concerns about what Obama might have said to the children if there was no outrage. He is a believer in the Black Value system, he was a student of Saul Alinsky, He was a community activist, he was associated with Bill Ayres,He is in bed with Acorn, he believes Socialism and redistribution is the answer, He is pro-abortion,He converted a day that should be remembered for the tragedy that is was to a "day of Service" to promote his community activist agenda and to try and change peoples perception and memory of that day so that they would forget that TERRORISTS attacked American civilians killing thousands...those are just a few reasons parents were concerned about what he might have said if there had been no outrage...
 mungojoe

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Posted: 9/14/2009 4:45:03 AM

I had a problem with the address he wanted to give....

The one he WANTED to give...?!?

And that is different from the one he gave in what way?

Are you trying to suggest that you have a 'secret inside track' no-one else does as to his speech that lets you know h wanted (or planned) to say something other than what he did?

Or are you just 'blowing smoke' out of your...?

You can not expect a parent to not have concerns about what Obama might have said to the children if there was no outrage. He is a believer in the Black Value system, he was a student of Saul Alinsky, He was a community activist, he was associated with Bill Ayres,He is in bed with Acorn, he believes Socialism and redistribution is the answer, He is pro-abortion,He converted a day that should be remembered for the tragedy that is was to a "day of Service" to promote his community activist agenda and to try and change peoples perception and memory of that day so that they would forget that TERRORISTS attacked American civilians killing thousands...those are just a few reasons parents were concerned about what he might have said if there had been no outrage...

What he MIGHT have said...?!?

Outrage over nothing based on what you IMAGINE he MIGHT have said?

Clearly, America's children needed his encouragement to study hard and apply themselves if these are examples of the clarity of thought among their parents.
 jed456

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Posted: 9/14/2009 12:25:01 PM
You can not expect a parent to not have concerns about what Obama might have said to the children if there was no outrage. He is a believer in the Black Value system, he was a student of Saul Alinsky, He was a community activist, he was associated with Bill Ayres,He is in bed with Acorn, he believes Socialism and redistribution is the answer, He is pro-abortion,He converted a day that should be remembered for the tragedy that is was to a "day of Service" to promote his community activist agenda and to try and change peoples perception and memory of that day so that they would forget that TERRORISTS attacked American civilians killing thousands...those are just a few reasons parents were concerned about what he might have said if there had been no outrage...


Um mm okay and I find it quite laughable Obama is trying to change peoples perception and memory?Unless a person has been living under a rock for the past few years how can anyone forget 9-11? What is he using the vulcan mind trick?
 cotter

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Posted: 9/14/2009 5:38:56 PM

Parents also should have the right to view what is going to be taught in regards to the speech, and/or view the speech portion with their child.
Wow ... so much for the "boogie man" ... eh?

I still can't imagine what parent in their right mind could expect the President of the United States to say anything to their child ... that might be in any way inappropriate. With his own children no doubt watching as well.

An if they have major objection they should be able to except their child with no repucussions on the child.
Ya ... my guess is that they might ask the teacher to excuse their child ... because they are advocates of the "dumbing down of our nation".

Teachers should hopefully have the option to develop their own lesson as they deem not as the WH deems.
I hear that ... the stooooopid people who live in the White House ... what would they know about education ... eh? Oh wait ... wasn't the President himself a teacher? Didn't he teach Constitutional Law at University of Chicago for 12 years?

Geez ... do you think we can trust him to speak to our children?
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 9/14/2009 5:48:30 PM
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We can now understand the Wall Street, and Bank melt down...........

Reagan went into the Schools and indoctrinated all them when they were kids with the Trickle down and Tax cuts for the Rich...The take it all mentality .........

Maybe instead of Bail outs we could have saved money hiring deprogrammers............

These parents are heros......... they saved this country from Sharing, education...........
all those other bad things....




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 imalwayssmiling

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Posted: 9/14/2009 5:52:28 PM

We can now understand the Wall Street, and Bank melt down...........

Reagan went into the Schools and indoctrinated all them when they were kids with the Trickle down and Tax cuts for the Rich...The take it all mentality .........

Maybe instead of Bail outs we could have saved money hiring deprogrammers............
I totally agree !
 EarlzP

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Posted: 9/15/2009 9:27:45 PM

Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY????


This shows their pure hatred towards President Obama in particular and the democratic party in general
 cotter

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Posted: 9/17/2009 9:26:22 PM

This shows their pure hatred towards President Obama in particular ...
I think it's a racist thing ... they just can't accept a "Black" president and can't accept that he is smart and truly deserves the office he has been elected to.

They just want to do anything they can to make him fail. That way they can say ... "See there, the 'black' guy just couldn't get it done. The 'blacks' are too stupid to be President."
 etourdi77

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Posted: 9/17/2009 9:45:29 PM
Its a shame that Liberals can't seem to see past Obamas skin color....there is no more hatred towards Obama than there was towards Bush or any other President...actually there was more hatred towards Bush the person than there is for Obama the person, most people that are accused of disliking Obama really only dislike his policies and agenda....whereas people actually hated Bush....it is a shame that people have to resort to claiming racism every time someone disagrees with Obama it is Lazy and irresponsible and those that do it should be ashamed of themselves. Obama ran as the uniter and look how divided we have become...guess having a the First Black President hasn't done a thing to improve race relations,,,,,the liberals would serve themselves better by arguing the merits of his policies and agenda and leaving his race out of the discussion.
 imalwayssmiling

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Posted: 9/17/2009 10:44:50 PM

Obama ran as the uniter and look how divided we have become
First I have heard many state things only a racist would say and others had no racial tone to their talk or concerns at all,I dislike greatly when people like you continually lump everyone that likes everything Obama does as a liberal and that we all seem to think you guys are all racists,your like a broken record.

As for your remark on how he was voted as one that unites and in reality turns out a divider,I have no idea where the thought comes from,virtually every conservative and Republican came into this election hating what Obama was doing all through the campaign and still,the same ones are still hating his plans,I see virtually no difference,it was a 50/50 going in and it still is,and I still see every great thing he does ignored by the same people,some even going as far as saying the country is merely healing itself.He has tried hard to unite those against him yet they as a majority still call for all the old ways.He was voted for on a platform of change in this country,yet those opposed refuse to get rid of the old ways,whether it the broken parts of health reform or the war or any other aspect of his campaign promises,so he shows he's sticking to his plans and campaign goals and its the GOP unwilling to change and join in,sounds like the divided are choosing to stay that way,so you can leave Obama out of this,its up to the GOP to try to grasp what doing away with business as usual means,its certainly doesn't mean continuing with every failed programs we had before.

No, Obama does unite,those that voted for his vision has jumped on his train of progress and the GOP keep the divide alive and they sit back and complain about virtually everything,everyday,every week,every month .Its exactly as it was for all the past 8 years,all the Dems were pretty much in disgust of what the Republicans were doing and it still is the same,we still dislike the views of the republicans and there trickle down mentality,the let the crumbs fall where they may attitudes,hey as long as they the rich were satisfied,they were happy,its still that way! I truly believe the republicans enjoy the tremendous divide in income and status in this country,seems all your hear from the GOP is name calling about freeloaders trying to get something for free and the uninsured should just pay for there own insurance,many of us call them the poor and downtrodden not freeloaders,GOP needs to learn the train is on a different track,they can suffer through Obamas eight years as we did with the last 8 or they can join the plan,that won't happen though because with most of them its about the have and the have nots more than in joining a plan that wants across the board fairness.
 EarlzP

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Posted: 9/19/2009 12:43:37 PM

I think it's a racist thing ... they just can't accept a "Black" president and can't accept that he is smart and truly deserves the office he has been elected to.

They just want to do anything they can to make him fail. That way they can say ... "See there, the 'black' guy just couldn't get it done. The 'blacks' are too stupid to be President."


I live in the real world and hear racism all the time, as a combat vet that served with many minorities I know one thing for sure we all bleed red, I learned during that period of my life that the color of a man's/woman's skin does not define the man/woman

Racism is alive and well and those that deny it are not fooling anyone
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