| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/11/2009 6:16:16 PM |
I would expect nothing less from someone who proudly claims to be a captialist.
Got sumthin' against capitalists? Commie. | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/11/2009 6:27:12 PM |
Dude, Union = all about the power. All about the money.
If you beleive all unions are about money and power you must think pigs wear tutus fly from Calgary to Vancouver.
Lets see some facts instead of making of things up because you had 2 bad experiences.I've been in some good unions and some bad ones.I've seen guys who were in positions because they wanted the power.I've seen guys who make sure every ones rights were protected.I've been at a place where it was needed.
So anti-elvis name some local unions or union halls where this is true.Name some actual articles where you have gotten all this vital information from.I'm not saying that their aren't unions that are not about power and money.Not all unions are like that. | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/11/2009 6:32:19 PM | OMG
Got sumthin' against capitalists? Commie.
There you going being laughable again .... lol | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/12/2009 7:24:27 AM | | seems like that many unions think that if the employer is making money..then he should pay higher wages....who is taking the risk here...lays out the capital to run a business..some days I wonder why anyone,including myself would want to invest capital to give someone else a job..so they can sit around, wreck equipment and not have to pay for it and still collect a pay cheque. Was raised to believe that if someone gives you a job, you better make them a dollar or you won't be there, so maybe that is one dollar for the worker and one for the employer..now if anyone wants to make the big buck and put both dollars in their own pocket..start your own business and see how much fun it is and maybe more people will find out why so many are against the unions.Bottem line..if you work hard..do a good job..you dont need a union to keep you employed | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/12/2009 7:48:50 AM |
Now UNA employees are worse gluttons than contractors. Did you know a part time UNA employee can actually earn more than a full time worker? Yes, did you catch that...part time yet earning overtime hours. They work casual, call in sick and pick up another at different site or unit. They get paid twice for the same hours and they do it just because they can and feel its their right to milk the system.
You don't need to be in a union to do that. Sorry. Where I work the nurses are not union and that happens all the time. All. The. Time. Sicks call from part time(and full time) employees so they can go work at their other job and get sick pay at our facility. I even admit I did it once. Not to get the double pay, but because I could not get the time off and I needed to do orientation at another facility. I felt guilty, but there was no other way I was getting the time off and I could only do orientation that day or wait another month when I didn't have another month to wait. For me that was a one time thing, but I see many other nurses do it on a regular basis. Of course there comes a time when your sick hours do run out.... | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/12/2009 8:06:45 AM |
Bottem line..if you work hard..do a good job..you dont need a union to keep you employed
Unions can't and don't guaranty you employment. They do provide a certain amont of job security by trying to ensure you get fair treatment from your employer.
who is taking the risk here...lays out the capital to run a business
The company I work for doesn't have a regular maintennce program for their trucks. Who's taking the risk there? Not the owners who pocket the money. There are many risks taken everyday by employees. Just because it doesn't involve money, it doesn't mean risks aren't being taken. No amount of money will make up for a the loss of a limb, eye, death, disablity or a long term illness causes by contaminents in the work place. Money can be replaced but good health can't. That's the real risk and it's borne by the employees.
Bottom line .... if employers would treat employees as assets instead of liabilities there would be no need for unions. | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/12/2009 8:27:58 AM | | if you know the trucks are not safe to drive, call the D.O.T. and they will make sure the trucks are safe for the roads..and you don't have to give your name when you call..you don't need a union to do that..most employers DO know that a GOOD employee is an asset as GOOD workers are hard to find..speaking from experience | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/12/2009 9:03:08 AM |
if you know the trucks are not safe to drive, call the D.O.T. and they will make sure the trucks are safe for the roads
So just where does a company's responsibility come into play here? Should they not be ensuring that their employees have a safe working enviroment and that their trucks are safe to go on public roads?
I am a consciousous employee in a non union shop, I report problems as they occur. If I thought my truck was unsafe to drive I would simply refuse to drive it and face the consquences of my actions. My health and well being is far more important to me that a job or a stupid letter in my file.
My responsibility to ensuring I have a safe working enviroment is to, do the daily fluids check etc, report problems & concerns. The company should have a responsibility in preventing problems in the first place by being proactive instead of reactive. I would think it would make good business sense to pay a little out to prevent a problem than face a much larger bill after a problem had occured. Especially if public safety may be involved. | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/12/2009 10:40:21 AM | | Perhaps your foreman is not reporting what needs to be repaired..if the company is that bad..go work some where else..no one is forcing you to stay there, maybe the company doesn't feel it is a safety issue and if you are that sure it is a safety issue, make the stupid call to the D.O.T. or find other employment | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/12/2009 10:54:38 AM | So what you are saying it seems, is that the company has no responsibility to ensure their trucks are safe, basically, since you ignored my questions of companies responibilities. I guess the quest for profits out way any social respponsibility for companies.
Finding other employment seems to be the standard answer in this forum. That doesn't solve the problem of unsafe vehicles on the road or unsafe working conditions within places of employment. Perhaps I should adopt the attitude, like many seem to have here, that as long as I'm getting paid, who cares about anything else. We are all part of something much larger than out little self centered egos. | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/12/2009 5:34:58 PM | Hmmm. Sounds like SOMEBODY must have woke up and smelled the coffee. No changes but deal now accepted by workers is what I'm hearing.  | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/12/2009 8:57:51 PM | | I think you may be right. I drove by there tonight around 9:30 and not a picket in sight. | |
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| Safeway strikers
Posted: 9/13/2009 9:48:17 AM | ^^^
No wonder you didn't see any...They were only picketing 37 hours per week | |
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