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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/21/2009 4:12:46 PM | | It stinks really bad, and Ive seen people loose themselves with pot. Like stealing from people so they can buy more pot, and destroying thier short term memory so bad they cant even hold down a job. I knew someone who went through 30 jobs in 1 year because of that | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/21/2009 7:40:45 PM |
not ONE republican voted for the amendmant. Voting against closing the gang rape no sue loophole...can we say politics???
Those republicans are scum IMHO. Here's a satire site on the "republicans for rap" and shows pictures of these sick puppies. How they can even look a woman in the eyes is beyond me and how any woman could look at them for any reason is further beyond me.
http://www.republicansforrape.org/legislators/
how can the G.O.P. look at themselves in the mirror...
They don't keep mirrors around - like vampires.
It stinks really bad, and Ive seen people loose themselves with pot. Like stealing from people so they can buy more pot, and destroying thier short term memory so bad they cant even hold down a job. I knew someone who went through 30 jobs in 1 year because of that
Those people were losers to begin with. Unless a person is smoking 24 hours a day, that kind of thing just doesn't happen to normal adjusted people.
But this is a great first step. Eventually it will be legalized. Then maybe we'll REALLY get some sense and let farmers start planting hemp. You want us off the middle eastern teet for oil, hemp is the way not to mention the myriad other things hemp can provide. Let's deal with the facts shall we.
Cannabis history in America - "The Emperor Has No Clothes"
http://www.jackherer.com/
Great on the history of hemp/marijuana.
Great youtube links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oPaSnjHawo&feature=fvw
Food for thought:
SUMMARIES
“At the present time, the evidence to suggest an involvement of cannabis in road crashes is scientifically unproven.
To date …, seven studies using culpability analysis have been reported, involving a total of 7,934 drivers. Alcohol was detected as the only drug in 1,785 drivers, and together with cannabis in 390 drivers. Cannabis was detected in 684 drivers, and in 294 of these it was the only drug detected.
… The results to date of crash culpability studies have failed to demonstrate that drivers with cannabinoids in the blood are significantly more likely than drug-free drivers to be culpable in road crashes. … [In] cases in which THC was the only drug present were analyzed, the culpability ratio was found to be not significantly different from the no-drug group.”
REFERENCE: G. Chesher and M. Longo. 2002. Cannabis and alcohol in motor vehicle accidents. In: F. Grotenhermen and E. Russo (Eds.) Cannabis and Cannabinoids: Pharmacology, Toxicology, and Therapeutic Potential. New York: Haworth Press. Pp. 313-323.
“Cannabis leads to a more cautious style of driving, [but] it has a negative impact on decision time and trajectory. [However,] this in itself does not mean that drivers under the influence of cannabis represent a traffic safety risk. … Cannabis alone, particularly in low doses, has little effect on the skills involved in automobile driving.”
REFERENCE: Canadian Senate Special Committee on Illegal Drugs. 2002. Cannabis: Summary Report: Our Position for a Canadian Public Policy. Ottawa. Chapter 8: Driving Under the Influence of Cannabis.
“This report has summarized available research on cannabis and driving.
… Evidence of impairment from the consumption of cannabis has been reported by studies using laboratory tests, driving simulators and on-road observation. ... Both simulation and road trials generally find that driving behavior shortly after consumption of larger doses of cannabis results in (i) a more cautious driving style; (ii) increased variability in lane position (and headway); and (iii) longer decision times. Whereas these results indicate a 'change' from normal conditions, they do not necessarily reflect 'impairment' in terms of performance effectiveness since few studies report increased accident risk.
REFERENCE: UK Department of Environment, Transport and the Regions (Road Safety Division). 2000. Cannabis and Driving: A Review of the Literature and Commentary. Crowthorne, Berks: TRL Limited.
“Overall, we conclude that the weight of the evidence indicates that:
1) There is no evidence that consumption of cannabis alone increases the risk of culpability for traffic crash fatalities or injuries for which hospitalization occurs, and may reduce those risks.
2) The evidence concerning the combined effect of cannabis and alcohol on the risk of traffic fatalities and injuries, relative to the risk of alcohol alone, is unclear.
3) It is not possible to exclude the possibility that the use of cannabis (with or without alcohol) leads to an increased risk of road traffic crashes causing less serious injuries and vehicle damage.”
REFERENCE: M. Bates and T. Blakely. 1999. “Role of cannabis in motor vehicle crashes.” Epidemiologic Reviews 21: 222-232.
“In conclusion, marijuana impairs driving behavior. However, this impairment is mitigated in that subjects under marijuana treatment appear to perceive that they are indeed impaired. Where they can compensate, they do, for example by not overtaking, by slowing down and by focusing their attention when they know a response will be required. … Effects on driving behavior are present up to an hour after smoking but do not continue for extended periods.
With respect to comparisons between alcohol and marijuana effects, these substances tend to differ in their effects. In contrast to the compensatory behavior exhibited by subjects under marijuana treatment, subjects who have received alcohol tend to drive in a more risky manner. Both substances impair performance; however, the more cautious behavior of subjects who have received marijuana decreases the impact of the drug on performance, whereas the opposite holds true for alcohol.”
REFERENCE: A. Smiley. 1999. Marijuana: On-Road and Driving-Simulator Studies. In: H. Kalant et al. (Eds) The Health Effects of Cannabis. Toronto: Center for Addiction and Mental Health. Pp. 173-191.
“Intoxication with cannabis leads to a slight impairment of psychomotor … function. … [However,] the impairment in driving skills does not appear to be severe, even immediately after taking cannabis, when subjects are tested in a driving simulator. This may be because people intoxicated by cannabis appear to compensate for their impairment by taking fewer risks and driving more slowly, whereas alcohol tends to encourage people to take great risks and drive more aggressively.”
REFERENCE: UK House of Lords Select Committee on Science and Technology. 1998. Ninth Report. London: United Kingdom. Chapter 4: Section 4.7.
“The evidence suggests that marijuana presents a real, but secondary safety risk; and that alcohol is the leading drug-related accident risk factor.”
REFERENCES: D. Gieringer. 1988. Marijuana, driving, and accident safety. Journal of Psychoactive Drugs 20: 93-101.
CRASH CULPABILITY STUDIES
“For each of 2,500 injured drivers presenting to a hospital, a blood sample was collected for later analysis.
There was a clear relationship between alcohol and culpability. … In contrast, there was no significant increase in culpability for cannabinoids alone. While a relatively large number of injured drivers tested positive for cannabinoids, culpability rates were no higher than those for the drug free group. This is consistent with other findings.”
REFERENCE:
Logan, M.C., Hunter, C.E., Lokan, R.J., White, J.M., & White, M.A. (2000). The Prevalence of Alcohol, Cannabinoids, Benzodiazepines and Stimulants Amongst Injured Drivers and Their Role in Driver Culpability: Part II: The Relationship Between Drug Prevalence and Drug Concentration, and Driver Culpability. Accident Analysis and Prevention, 32, 623-32.
“Blood samples from 894 patients presenting to two Emergency Departments for treatment of motor vehicle injur[ies] … were tested for alcohol and other drugs.
… Based on alcohol and drug testing of the full range of patients … alcohol is clearly the major drug associated with serious crashes and greater injury. Patients testing positive for illicit drugs (marijuana, opiates, and cocaine), in the absence of alcohol, were in crashes very similar to those of patients with neither alcohol nor drugs. When other relevant variables were considered, these drugs were not associated with more severe crashes or greater injury.”
REFERENCE: P. Waller et al. 1997. Crash characteristics and injuries of victims impaired by alcohol versus illicit drugs. Accident Analysis and Prevention 29: 817-827.
“Blood specimens were collected from a sample of 1,882 drivers from 7 states, during 14 months in the years 1990 and 1991. The sample comprised operators of passenger cars, trucks, and motorcycles who died within 4 hours of their crash.
… While cannabinoids were detected in 7 percent of the drivers, the psychoactive agent THC was found in only 4 percent. … The THC-only drivers had a responsibility rate below that of the drugfree drivers. … While the difference was not statistically significant, there was no indication that cannabis by itself was a cause of fatal crashes.”
REFERENCE: K. Terhune. 1992. The incidence and role of drugs in fatally injured drivers. Washington, DC: US Department of Transportation National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Report No. DOT HS 808 065.
ON-ROAD PERFORMANCE STUDIES
“Marijuana's effects on actual driving performance were assessed in a series of three studies wherein dose-effect relationships were measured in actual driving situations that progressively approached reality.
… THC's effects on road-tracking after doses up to 300 µg/kg never exceeded alcohol's at bacs of 0.08%; and, were in no way unusual compared to many medicinal drugs. Yet, THC's effects differ qualitatively from many other drugs, especially alcohol. Evidence from the present and previous studies strongly suggests that alcohol encourages risky driving whereas THC encourages greater caution, at least in experiments. Another way THC seems to differ qualitatively from many other drugs is that the formers users seem better able to compensate for its adverse effects while driving under the influence.”
REFERENCE: H. Robbe. 1995. Marijuana’s effects on actual driving performance. In: C. Kloeden and A. McLean (Eds) Alcohol, Drugs and Traffic Safety T-95. Adelaide: Australia: HHMRC Road Research Unit, University of Adelaide. Pp. 11-20.
“This report concerns the effects of marijuana smoking on actual driving performance. … This program of research has shown that marijuana, when taken alone, produces a moderate degree of driving impairment which is related to consumed THC dose. The impairment manifests itself mainly in the ability to maintain a lateral position on the road, but its magnitude is not exceptional in comparison with changes produced by many medicinal drugs and alcohol. Drivers under the influence of marijuana retain insight in their performance and will compensate when they can, for example, by slowing down or increasing effort. As a consequence, THC’s adverse effects on driving performance appear relatively small.”
REFERENCE: W. Hindrik and J. Robbe and J. O’Hanlon. 1993. Marijuana and actual driving performance. Washington, DC: US Department of Transportation National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Report No. DOT HS 808 078.
TABULATED SUMMARY OF ROAD TRIALS OF CANNABIS AND DRIVING
Table compiled by the UK Department of Transport (2000)
DRIVING SIMULATOR STUDIES
“Overall, it is possible to conclude that cannabis has a measurable effect on psychomotor performance, particularly tracking ability. Its effect on higher cognitive functions, for example divided attention tasks associated with driving, appear not to be as critical. Drivers under the influence of cannabis seem aware that they are impaired, and attempt to compensate for this impairment by reducing the difficulty of the driving task, for example by driving more slowly.
In terms of road safety, it cannot be concluded that driving under the influence of cannabis is not a hazard, as the effects of various aspects of driver performance are unpredictable. However, in comparison with alcohol, the severe effects of alcohol on the higher cognitive processes of driving are likely to make this more of a hazard, particularly at higher blood alcohol levels.”
REFERENCE: B. Sexton et al. 2000. The influence of cannabis on driving: A report prepared for the UK Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions (Road Safety Division). Crowthorne, Berks: TRL Limited.
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How about a hemp powered car?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Am3yUDt3M&feature=related
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http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2009/09/chronic_city_driving_the_high.php
Great article on two lawyers taking the position dui shouldn't apply to pot smokers. Two federal studties support their positions.
"Chronic City: Taking the High Road -- Attorneys Say DUI Laws Shouldn't Apply To Pot
By Steve Elliott in Chronic City, Law & Order
Wednesday, Sep. 9 2009 @ 12:30PM
Students for Sensible Drug Policy
Hey, watch where you're going!
?Remember the first few times you drove high? You knew you were stoned, you knew it might be dangerous to operate a motor vehicle, and you drove like a little old lady.
This tendency of stoners to overcompensate for their impairment is one reason that marijuana-related car crashes aren't in the headlines every day. With estimates of current marijuana users in the United States varying between 40 and 100 million, you can bet that if weed really caused wrecks, it'd be a national tragedy on the level of drunk driving.
But you don't see those headlines, and you probably don't have anecdotes about "that time I was so high I couldn't even remember how my car got in the ditch." Seems all those stories have alcohol as a component instead. (That certainly goes for me, with 32 years of accident-free driving on pot. And, yes: There were a few alcohol-related crashes in my teens.)
Now, I'm not recommending you take a few bong rips and then hit the freeway. In fact, it'd probably be best for everyone if you'd stay your stoned ass home on the couch. There's a reason God invented pizza delivery.
San Diego attorneys Lawrence Taylor and Cole Casey, however, are arguing that California's DUI laws shouldn't apply to marijuana. While many automatically assume that pot affects the ability to safely operate a vehicle, Taylor and Casey said two federal studies do not support that.
Even the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), which in its understandable quest for respectability is very cautious around the stoned driving issue, grants: "...emerging scientific research indicates that cannabis actually has far less impact on the psychomotor skills needed for driving than alcohol does, and is seldom a causal factor in automobile accidents."
The attorneys -- who could certainly benefit from the name recognition as "The pot DUI guys" -- point out that while the California Department of Justice has found that marijuana impairs driving, the U.S. Department of Transportation's studies contradict this."There are two federal studies that have come to that conclusion that although marijuana can impact someone's short-term memory, when somebody is concentrating on the task of driving that really there was no measurable impact," Casey told 10News in San Diego.
Another study by the Department of Transportation (DOT) found that "it appears not possible to conclude anything about a driver's impairment on the basis of his/her plasma concentration of THC."
Taylor, known as the "Dean of DUI Attorneys," points to another more recent report. Titled "Marijuana and Actual Performance" (DOT-HS-808-078), it also found that "THC is not a profoundly impairing drug....It apparently affects controlled information processing in a variety of laboratory tests, but not to the extent which is beyond the individual's ability to control when he is motivated and permitted to do so in driving." Voila!: The Little Old Lady Effect.
So, first of all, according to the DOT, there is no association between marijuana intoxication and driving impairment. But that's not the biggest problem with detecting THC in bodily fluids.
The glaring weakness of tests which detect THC, as opposed to alcohol sobriety tests, is that marijuana metabolites stay in the body for at least 30 days -- long after any impairment associated with being "high" is gone. Therefore the mere presence of THC or its metabolites in a blood, urine, hair, or saliva sample is meaningless when it comes to measuring impairment.
Bottom line, according to attorneys Taylor and Casey: (1) marijuana may not impair driving ability at all, and (2) the blood "evidence" only measures an inactive substance which may have been there for days. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/21/2009 8:20:44 PM | My thoughts...
My mother has Alzheimer's. I have seen a couple occasions where my daughter had my mother smoke pot. I was astounded. My mother could focus on one single topic of discussion and carry it through to the end. She could recall instances in her life that were lost. She became the woman that I knew so many years ago. In fact she was dancing the polka around the room. If marijuana can cause such a change within an Alzheimer's patient...why do they not extract the THC and place it into a pill format, so that it can benefit those who are in need?
I understand the concerns, however I also see the benefits. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/21/2009 9:29:38 PM | Yes but you do not smoke natural pot-hemp. If you did you would have a headache, long before a buzzz. Your pot has been selectivly grown and strained. Sort of like creating a new breed of dog. A planned mutation.
Don't get me wrong! I surely prefer good bud to wild home-grown. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/21/2009 9:53:27 PM | | Marijuana just has the stigma of being "bad-ass" because it's illegal and you smoke it. Alcohol, cigarettes and prescription/non-prescription drugs kill thousands every year and no one thinks twice unless you're a raging drunk. I have no problem with people using it, as long as they don't engage in stupid bahaviour while under the influence. Same goes for alcohol. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:07:11 PM | | I have dated women that do it and I did it a lot when I was younger. I could really care less if someone smokes as long as they are honest about it. A couple photographers I assisted were chronic smokers and they are very big money makers and smoke a ounce or more a week and they are booked for a year in advance with a very high day rate. I remember a job we did for a police department and he fired up in the bathroom at the station and created quite a stir but they never figured out it was him. If you smoke and you are dating me smoke away, I could care less. No worse than drinking and when was the last time you heard of a stoned guy on pot plowing through a crosswalk and taking out a whole family crossing the street? Pull out coke, heroin or a meth pipe and I am gone. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/22/2009 3:28:41 AM |
hronic smokers and they are very big money makers and smoke a ounce or more a week and they are booked for a year in advance with a very high day rate.
You mean it's not true? Not all "dopers" are slackers? LOL. Say it isn't so. Which then begs the question - was the talent leading to this success released through the use of pot? Or was pot just affordable for the first time after their success? Worth pondering. ponder ponder.
Me personally can not stand the smell of it in any form, so I stay clear of it.
Oh you're right about that that. I'll never forget the first time I got a good whiff of it. I was just over 15 and playing guitar in a club with fake I.D. with some close buddies of mine. After the first set, I went into this fairly small bathroom when it first hit me. I was sure something really bad died in there. It was awful. But over time, it's become something quite different.
But, possibly, in the future, they'll figure out a way to breed the nasty smell out of it...maybe make designer pot that smells like Ralph Lauren cologne. That might work. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/22/2009 8:15:37 AM |
But, possibly, in the future, they'll figure out a way to breed the nasty smell out of it...maybe make designer pot that smells like Ralph Lauren cologne. That might work.
Use a vaporizer instead of smoking it, the smell problem is almost gone, and it's good for your lung. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/22/2009 11:54:36 AM | I love the smell and taste of good bud. I love walking down the street and catching a wiff knowing that somewhere nearby somebody is enjoying a nice puff. I like smoking up at 4:20, thinking good thoughts knowing that countless others all over my time zone are doing the exact same thing. I like to think there's something powerful about that kind of a collective acting at the same time.
I have yet to try a vapourizer but would like to in order to lessen any chance of cancer down the road. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/22/2009 12:09:25 PM |
It stinks really bad, and Ive seen people loose themselves with pot. Like stealing from people so they can buy more pot, and destroying thier short term memory so bad they cant even hold down a job. I knew someone who went through 30 jobs in 1 year because of that
Oh horsesh*t
30 jobs in one year?
"loose" themselves with pot? were they a real winner to start with?
And were they a thief to start with?
I think the drama llama got loose here. I knew a guy that drank milk and stole stuff, so I don't drink milk. And then I knew a guy that ate pop tarts who beats his wife, so I avoid pop tarts.
It is absolutely absurd to blame inanimate objects for a human's behavior. You knew some "loosers", it wasn't the pot, pop tarts, or the milk that caused jack sht. And that's assuming this post is accurate, which is quite generous of me. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/22/2009 12:30:23 PM |
You mean it's not true? Not all "dopers" are slackers? LOL. Say it isn't so. Which then begs the question - was the talent leading to this success released through the use of pot? Or was pot just affordable for the first time after their success? Worth pondering. ponder ponder.
Not true at all. I know one friend that is my age, his parents make his house payment, food bills, child support, truck payment and everything he does they pay for and he smokes like a fiend, he is just lazy. His brother smokes more than him and owns a very large company that sells franchises and it is a big company. His other brother is a software engineer and he smokes and is brilliant and he tests the same as I do on IQ tests which is high and he is a smoking fiend.
I think they smoke it because they like it. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/22/2009 7:21:01 PM | | m14 I was clearly being facetious. I've practiced law for over 36 years. If people knew how many judges, lawyers and cops smoke pot regularly and do their jobs just fine, people would be astounded. But, in time. In time. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/23/2009 12:49:28 AM | | I dont think there is anything wrong with it if it is used for medicinal use. I have a chronic and painfull disease, I use it to relax and help me through my day if its a bad day pain wise. If you are smoking it because you cant deal with real life ,then that is sad. I don't advertize the fact that I use it and I definately dont let it consume my life, I still have a job, pay my bills etc etc. Most of the people I have dated are understanding about it and can accept it. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 10/24/2009 1:42:31 PM | Oh horsesh*t
30 jobs in one year?
"loose" themselves with pot? were they a real winner to start with?
And were they a thief to start with?
I think the drama llama got loose here. I knew a guy that drank milk and stole stuff, so I don't drink milk. And then I knew a guy that ate pop tarts who beats his wife, so I avoid pop tarts.
It is absolutely absurd to blame inanimate objects for a human's behavior. You knew some "loosers", it wasn't the pot, pop tarts, or the milk that caused jack sht. And that's assuming this post is accurate, which is quite generous of me.
LOL! Thank you for calling him out, his argument was full of fallacies. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/4/2009 1:39:07 AM | Kudos to the City of Denver. Keep smiling folks. This gives new meaning to the "Rocky Mountain High". (Sorry. I couldn't resist)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/04/breckenridge-votes-overwh_n_344815.html
DENVER — The Colorado ski town of Breckenridge has voted overwhelmingly to legalize marijuana.
Early returns Tuesday night showed the proposal winning with 72 percent of the vote. The measure would allow adults over 21 to have up to 1 ounce of marijuana.
The measure is largely symbolic because pot possession remains a state crime for people without medical clearance. But supporters said they wanted to send a message to local law enforcement to stop busting small-time pot smokers.
The vote comes as communities nationwide are struggling with how to enforce pot laws at a time when medical marijuana has surged in popularity.
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/04/breckenridge-votes-overwh_n_344815.html
I hope that wasn't a hoax because it would spoil a dream. That people might grow up a little and bring it out of the shadows. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/4/2009 2:13:08 AM | My issue is this .... I actually think Im so GREAT and such FANTASTIC company that no one should need to be stoned or drunk to enjoy being with me.
If someone needs a crutch when with me, then in all honesty they just aren't that interested are they?! If someone has to get stoned before or during a date, then they are having a better longterm relationship with their drugs then they will ever have with a real person.
Great answer!
My experience with people who smoke pot on a daily basis is this!
No drive or ambition, lazy, no motivation, moody, dependent on the drug, self medicating for most likely a mental illness, poor hygiene, not going anywhere in life. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/4/2009 4:52:09 AM | | First pot smoking is much safer than drinking. No chance of uncontrolability of a viecle putting others in jepordy. Its not highly toxic to the organs of the body like drinking. Its unpopularity was brought about by the Regan Adminsitration and laws the Regans put into effect and advertising. What do you think the alchol lobbists would do if they did the same thing to the distilleries, cut off funding to presidents campaign, ect. The president needed someone to blame for the drugs they couldnt do anything about which were people on hard dangerous drugs, junkies. If one is to spend a day in court or look in the jails, tax payer money is wasted on recreatinal pot smokers being imprisoned, prosecuted, and it ruins our kids chances of jobs by having a crimial record. Canada did a smart thing and decriminalized it for the sake of thier children who used it recreationally. I would prefer kids to smoke pot than drink alcholhol. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/4/2009 5:04:58 AM | fffffffffffffffffffffffffffft eeeee'er 
My experience with people who smoke pot on a daily basis is this!
No drive or ambition, lazy, no motivation, moody, dependent on the drug, self medicating for most likely a mental illness, poor hygiene, not going anywhere in life.
What?? you don't know a lot of daily smokers!! lol .. I smoked pot Daily when I was 13 years old and got Straight A's throughout my school years. Also - I was in the Canadian Military for 11 years and smoked pot Every day!!! (except for the first few weeks in basic training when I couldn't get any!) . Not only that but I got Glowing reviews on my Annual reports. No drive or ambition?? LMAO!!! you might be talking a small minority. As for "dependant on the drug"?? #1 Pot is Not a drug - it is an herb. Dependant?? I don't think so! MOST who smoke the herb can take it or leave it .. just like a person who has an Occasional beer  .. cheezuz people .. you really oughta KNOW of what you speak before you post as if you do!! lol ..
Poor hygiene?? NOT and "not going anywhere in life"?? You do know that more than one current and previous presidents have admitted to indulging in the evil herb .. right? .. No motivation?? LOLOLOL  .. yeah .. ok ..
How about we rewrite your judgement in order to cover FACT versus the propoganda you've been fed and obviously bought into:
"My experience with people who pop prozac on a daily basis is this!
No drive or ambition, lazy, no motivation, moody, dependent on the drug, self medicating for most likely a mental illness, poor hygiene, not going anywhere in life."
or this
"My experience with people who drink booze on a daily basis is this!
No drive or ambition, lazy, no motivation, moody, dependent on the drug, self medicating for most likely a mental illness, poor hygiene, not going anywhere in life."
People are DYING in our countries as a result of Prescription Pills, Crystal Meth .. and Alcohol abuse. Pot is NOT the evil you think it is. It's just a weed .. ffffffffft eeee'er
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/4/2009 5:29:04 AM | To each his/her own about what they do in private. If you feel like smoking your brains out why not?
Me, i don`t like to partake in smoking. It`s just something i don`t feel the need to do... Does it enhance your sex life? | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/4/2009 11:32:39 AM | Wow Bakedsushi,
Taking things personally are we? If the herb as you put it doesn't affect you in this way then why are you so defensive? I never said it affected all people this way. The people that I have seen smoke it don't seem to know when to stop. My last relationship was with a man who smoked it every day and even at work. He was a different person when he hadn't taken it for a few days. Started cleaning his house again and taking care of himself. On the "herb" he was not motivated at all and had problems at work. I don't have a problem with people smoking it on occasion. I have enjoyed it before, as well. The problem is when people become dependent on in to function in their daily lives, just the same as alchohol or any other substance. Take a pill lady! | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/4/2009 11:54:08 AM |
I rest my case!
Spagett- Pot smoker! Profession in profile=Sleeping!
And the other poster is taking things personally? I didn't see them result in off topic discussion like this. Of course, since I wrote it in my profile it must be true! Or maybe my profession is something I would care not to share at this moment? (Either way, off topic isn't it?)
The original question (IE topic) is best answered by itself. The reason there are problems with anti-smokers and smokers is because of those "strong opinions".
Of course that is the difference between an anti-smoker and a non-smoker. One pushes their opinion on others like a cloud of smoke, the other is content with the notion that everyone does not have to be like them.
I posted the many facts to pot use in here, or in the other "pot bashing" thread. Hard to remember anymore, I would say that is the weed but all bigotry/prejudice blends together after awhile so it has to be at least 50/50.
People need to get off of their high horses, if I smoke weed that does not automatically make me what you think I am. (You is a general you, not a specific one.) | |
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