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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/11/2009 5:14:28 PM |
People can smoke it all they want for all I care, I did enough at one time too. But at my age, there is nothing worse than being around a 50 year old stoner!
This pretty much sums up my view of it too...although, growing up with my father being Drug Squad RCMP, I never got into smoking it, myself. And, I find it a tad *odd* I guess, that people over the age of say, 25, still do smoke it?
It still doesn't mean I would want to date a pot-smoker, though. I've only ever known one person, that could "take it or leave it" as Baked.Sushi said in her post...most regular pot-smokers that I've known, it's the first thing they do when they wake up, and the last thing they do at night before going to bed. Nice. Who wants to work with a coworker who might endanger them because their faculties are impaired; frankly, since moving to the US, I'm glad my job does regular drug-screening.
Being Canadian, though...I'm sure the Canadian government WILL eventually legalize marijuana...but probably ONLY after they devise a way to be able to test for it at the roadside...if I had a nickel for every pot-smoker I've known, who insisted they were a "better driver" while stoned, compared to while unimpaired? Meh...impaired is still impaired. Once the Canadian gov't figures out a way to test for it roadside...hell, let them tax the hell out of it, same as they do alcohol, and test for it roadside, same as they do with alcohol...and also impose the same felony charges if one is caught driving while stoned. So, pot-smokers...don't bytch when your own vice is finally legalized, and then taxed up the ying yang, same as my cigarettes are.  | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/11/2009 9:32:25 PM | [The AMA has come out and fully supported medical marijuana. It's about time people got up and spoke the truth.]
While I tend towards defending pot, even for recreational use, I have to say that the medicinal use of marijuana is a completely different animal which should be supported by anyone with a brain!. Bluesman is right! It is asinine that marijuana for medicinal purposes has not yet been legalized everywhere! Powdered heroin is legal to reduce pain, for chrissake! Media induced stigma is to blame, but no excuse for ignorance in this day & age. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/11/2009 9:48:49 PM | MSG 336 -You are correct, AMA is in complete agreement! and out here in the wild wild west it is downright inhumane to withhold from the terminally ill. Texas does not recognize any form of medical marijuana, so if you are arrested while possessing marijuana, a medical card or doctor's note will NOT be a valid defense. federal law also does not recognize medical marijuana (even in your home state), so you should contact a lawyer before you ever try to carry medical marijuana over state borders. just FYI
personally? i think it boils down to the pharmaceuatical companies and $$$..cant really bottle it up and sell it... GOVT/CORPS in bed with each other :( | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/12/2009 9:12:36 AM |
It's illegal
-It support organized crime
-It corrupts the youth
- Not everywhere that has put real thought into the issue...most progressive countries have at least decriminalized it on some level...it's just the right wing states of the Union that still have their heads...well...you know where. The real important question is WHY do these backward parts of the world still fight the majority...it's about lumber...go look it up.
- It does support crime. Make it legal and tax it and you've killed two birds with one stoner.
- I rebuke the whole it corrupts youth argument as that's subjective reasoning. Most pot smokers I know...cancel that...all of them...of varying ages have more going for them than most squares based on insight alone...but hey...go have another glass of wine to feel sophisticated while you get a buzz on...and then realize that you're putting far worse poison than pot into you by doing so. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/12/2009 3:31:46 PM | I got pulled over by a cop one time and had just smoked a joint. He asked me if I had been smoking...duh...the roach was in the ashtray.I said yes,I have a bad back and I carry a lot of weight with my job. I smoke one every day after work. He said,I have a bad back and I don't smoke pot. So I said, Well, I bet you take painkillers then, do you think they are better than a joint?A lot of people will abuse their pain medication. He didn't disagree and he let me go, told me to go straight home.He took my roach though lol.
I don't see aproblem with toking myself, but I am proud to say,for reasons other than I wanted to, I quit cold turkey going on 3 months ago and don't miss it.As an after thought, when you kiss someone that tokes, their breathe doesn't smell like an ashtray, like the cigarette smoker's does.UGH.. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/12/2009 4:32:53 PM | Strong opinions.. why? because.
Because it's illegal and yet some of the best studies show that anywhere from 20 to 50% of the population uses it.
Because the "War on Drugs" is still on
Because there is very little actual research going on so anecdotal evidence is all we have to go on.
Because many people have know either someone who smoked all the time and could handle life just fine, or have known someone who smoked all the time and did a great Bevis and Butthead imitation.
Because society is changing it's mores and it's in the public debate.
Because our society is becoming more polar in general
Because I said so (sorry, dad came out there) | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/13/2009 1:51:06 AM | Have to agree with captaindad 100%
He took my roach though lol.
And you can bet you butt he smoked it too. Tell him I said so next time you see him. But roaches in the ashtray??? Damn man. Are you kidding. Sublety dude. Subtlety. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/13/2009 8:19:39 AM | I was raised on a dairy farm we got up at 5 am went until 8pm the cows gave
more milk when we smoked in the barn, the tractors got drove a lot more nicely
when we burned, we was always ready to help anyone, there is two sides to the
story though, knew people who just drank they was about a mess, knew people
who all out partiers now they are fried.
For me when I had a project a little rope just seemed to help make the day
a lot more brighter.
There is no dought that some abuse anything theres a time and a place for
for all things.
And for taxing after it becomes legal thats B.S. we have enough taxs already
how about downsizing the gov. a bit.
It made the love in my heart grow for everyone and everything and be a lot
more understanding of people.
It sure does seem to make people more friendly and it does give you a good
case of the dumbass for sure and thats why in the right place at the right time
its fine. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/13/2009 2:01:55 PM |
- Not everywhere that has put real thought into the issue...most progressive countries have at least decriminalized it on some level...it's just the right wing states of the Union that still have their heads...well...you know where. The real important question is WHY do these backward parts of the world still fight the majority...it's about lumber...go look it up.
Even if it's decriminalized, it's still illegal. I don't care what some other countries have done. You have to look at the bigger picture and connect the dots. It's not as simple as it sounds.
- It does support crime. Make it legal and tax it and you've killed two birds with one stoner.
Marijuana is considered a "stepping stone" drug. People start out on it, and when the high isn't enough, they move onto the stronger drugs such as cocaine.
- I rebuke the whole it corrupts youth argument as that's subjective reasoning. Most pot smokers I know...cancel that...all of them...of varying ages have more going for them than most squares based on insight alone...
Yup, but they're too busy getting stoned and perma-fried that they won't end up getting anywhere in life.
but hey...go have another glass of wine to feel sophisticated while you get a buzz on...and then realize that you're putting far worse poison than pot into you by doing so.
The only alcohol I consume is red wine with my meal on the rare occasions. Science has proven that red wine in moderation reduces the risk of heart disease and certain cancers. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/13/2009 3:47:58 PM |
Even if it's decriminalized, it's still illegal. I don't care what some other countries have done. You have to look at the bigger picture and connect the dots. It's not as simple as it sounds.
1: Decriminalization is the first step to legalization. And if you do not care about other countries, what about the US of A? California, as well as a plethora of other states, have legalized it medicinally. Is it okay for those folks to puff puff pass? (In the context of the topic.)
2: It isn't as simple as it sounds? Unless it is coming from your keyboard apparently. Your solution/answer is A LOT simpler than the 'truths'. And you state it as fact, which it is not. If you dislike "stoners" then stay away from them, it all boils down to personal preference. False truths will not change that fact.
Marijuana is considered a "stepping stone" drug. People start out on it, and when the high isn't enough, they move onto the stronger drugs such as cocaine.
This is what we call a "false fact", I debunked it earlier in the thread and can do so again if needed. Long story short, you have your data reversed (kinda)
People who use cocaine are more likely to have smoked pot, not the other way around. And that is a BIG difference. Of course, "they" don't want you to know that so you get skewed data. It's okay, just do some real research into the substance those myths will vanish quickly.
Yup, but they're too busy getting stoned and perma-fried that they won't end up getting anywhere in life.
So you know that I am too busy doing those things? You know that EVERY other person who smokes pot does those things? What are the lottery numbers for next week? you have some awesome psychic abilities!
The only alcohol I consume is red wine with my meal on the rare occasions. Science has proven that red wine in moderation reduces the risk of heart disease and certain cancers.
Hypocrisy much?
So it is okay to bombard your system with booze, but I can not take a puff? Booze is a poison, man made as well. Marijuana is a herb, a plant (IE NOT man made). So I might be too "stoned" or maybe just "perma-fried" but I think that poison is A LOT worse than a plant...just sayin'
PS: Still have not refuted the whole "personal preference" or the fact that ignorance is the main reason for these "strong opinions" (Not facts, unless you count my/few others posts) | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/13/2009 5:06:42 PM | | I call bs on the stepping stone comment! I for one never have and never would do cocaine,crack,meth heroine or any other drug that is out there.I am too strong willed for that.If a person has an addictive personality, and they try anything addictive they can get hooked.I wouldn't even catagorize pot with the drugs I mentioned...not even close, as far as I'm concerned. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/13/2009 7:02:52 PM | | I think that whole "pot leads to hard drugs" theory is a load of crap too. As much as I can't stand marijuana, one good thing I've noticed about pot smokers is that they rarely ever seem to drink which is great. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/13/2009 7:52:15 PM | Everybody needs to read a book called "Saying yes".. I forget the name of the author offhand. He cites all the historical facts and lies of the governments and why they don't want you to know the facts. Did you know in the US constitution that the authors actually mandated for every US to be forced to grow at least one plant per household? Well the Cotton Grower Association lobbied the Senate early on and created a fear campaign that those 'coloreds' were stealing all the white women because they were getting them high.. check it all out.. Don't believe the hype..
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/13/2009 8:34:27 PM | | I have no issues with any drug taking but do belive that there can be too much of a good thing!!!! When it invades your life and you cant live without something then it becomes a problem, its one thing to puff on the occasional joint totally another to be veged out bong in hand starring at the tv night after night, not to mention running around trying to get it from deralic no good dealers who pray on the weekness of others!!!! | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/14/2009 12:17:15 AM | | Saying pot leads to hard drugs is like saying drinking milk is a gateway to alcoholism. As long as people are honest about it, smoking pot is no big deal. How do people feel about a significant other using a legal drug such as Salvia Divinorum, Aminita Muscaria, Sinicuichi, Morning Glory (LSA), Mitragyna Speciosa, Brugmansia etc? Is pot a problem because it's illegal or because it can be addicting to some? | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/14/2009 2:55:11 AM | | I think it started with the crusade against rock 'n roll way back when (like that could ever be stopped) and it's only intensified and it's become more hostile ever since. That's a shame because these are the very people who really need to chill | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/23/2009 2:34:06 PM |
OP: No major issues with it, unless you can't function without it, create financial issues because of it and lose any of functionalities due to it (i.e. mental, sexual, etc.........).
This. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/23/2009 3:32:18 PM | | Pot can help people with ADD , Uh I don't mean get ADD but as a treatment . Drinking is still ok too many folks , but they dont like pot ? When I was a youg'n you had a water fountian for Blacks and Whites , the Asians went without . now where are my papers. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/23/2009 3:54:23 PM | When You smoke herb it reveals you to yourself. All the wickedness you do is revealed by the herb --- it's you conscience and gives you an honest picture of yourself
~ bob marley | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/23/2009 4:09:05 PM | Remember how in school, two people would be chosen to be team captains who then picked the members of their team from the group, alternately?
Stay with me...
I was in the military years back. It is an environment where you have to be able to count on your foxhole buddy to have your back.
If I had to choose between the alcohol drinker or the toker to be my foxhole buddy, I'd opt for the latter. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 11/23/2009 11:45:03 PM |
If I had to choose between the alcohol drinker or the toker to be my foxhole buddy, I'd opt for the latter
In todays military the only one sitting in a foxhole would be the pot smoker as they would fail the polygraph for a security clearance and the only job they would be eligible for would be a ground pounder.
Meanwhile the alcoholic would probably be in Operations or Intelligence or Administration where they would have ample opportunity to replenish their supply as they were miles from the front lines and have a readily available BX/PX or liquor stash.
My gut guess is the pot smoker in the foxhole would soon opt for the conciencious objector status and not be sitting there for very long either.
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